house. this is picture for that meeting. and for the second straight day the dow bounced on wall street. truly an unprecedented thick and it runs completely counter to many of the prognostications out there before. yet another record today after donald trump s win. michelle kosinski is outfront at the white house. michelle, the moment today of this meeting so many people thought 24e8d never see barack obama and donald trump meet, never mind as president and president elect at the white house. maybe even not the two people at the meeting. and tonight outside the white house more protests but inside today it was all about reassurance and everybody on their best behavior. what was so fascinating about this, on the one hand you have this incredibly organized transition process with handshakes and good wishes on all sides. but then on the other, you have this intense bitterness from the campaign trail. and today the white house didn t really hold back in saying that i have great respect. the meeting lasted for almost an hour and a half. and it could have as far as i m concerned it could have gone on for a lot longer. we really we discussed a lot of different situations. some wonderful and some difficulties. i very much look forward to dealing with the president in the future, including counsel. when asked the white house press secretary said all those warnings from president obama on the campaign trail about trump, that he s dangerous, unqualified, still hold. does the president now have any reason to believe that donald trump is fit to be president of the united states? again, i m not gonna if two men did not relitigate their differences in the oval office. trump s next stop, capitol hill. meetings with leadership. the tone here equally welcoming, putting deep differences aside, for now. more affordable and better. reporter: an impending rolling back of as many of president obama s policies as possible. but the white house couldn t talk about that today, saying essentially what will be will be. america has chosen. my number one priority in the coming two months is to try to facilitate a transition that ensures our president elect is successfulal. ending it all with a joking reminder with one leader to the next, not to take question interests the press. thank you guys. we re not going to be taking any questions. that s good rule. don t answer any questions when their [indiscernible] very good man. well the not only how these two feel about each other but also the fact that donald trump has vowed many times to roll back president obama s policies. is a key job as chief of staff. the other person is a reince priebus. he s also been very integral in trump s world. running the ground population that got donald trump elected. he s been also very personally involved. i m told their bond isn t necessarily as close but certainly much closer than people think. and i m also told by people around washington erin that he would be a consensus choice. knows washington and the republicans on the hill. helping get many of them elected. so that is a choice. and probably the first and most important choings because it is the most personal. dana, thank you very much. and outfront tonight. reince priebus. chairman of the republican national committee. thank you for being with us tonight. i know you are doing this on very little sleep if any. we re told you have spoken to trump about a position in his administration. how did that conversation go? no that is not the case. we don t i m not involved in that. nobody is talking about those things. and so our focus right now is just making sure we re wrapping up the committee work and then, you know, making sure that the transition goes smoothly and so that he can be well equipped come january. and he will be. donald trump does give you a lot of credit for his win. at that moment when the world was watching him give his victory speech. he talked about you. here is what he said. i ll tell you, reince is really a star. and he s the hardest working guy we understand and i know you are saying you haven t talked about it with him. but you are on the list. steve bannon is on the list for trump s chief of staff. if offered would you take that job? do you even want it? i don t i don t to even talk achbbout it. the truth is i m in my job right now, erin. i m chairman of the rnc. it is an important role we play at the national party. and it was a great victory. but those great victories only happen with a great candidate. i m proud of her mechanics and data and i think it is unprecedented. i think it is unbelievable what this committee did. but none of those unbelievable things work if you have a bad candidate. so it always starts with a great candidate. and the other thing it starts with is you have to have a candidate that is flowing with the river. in other words the momentum, the mood of the electorate has to flow with the candidate. all of those things lined up, which is why, you know, i think the media narrative was just so far off on what americans were thinking about the choices they had in front of them. president obama and president elect trump were supposed to meet today for ten minutes. as, you know, that was the schedule. were you surprised after all the and let s just be honest here, frankly horrible things they said about each other that that meeting lasted han hour and a half? no i m not surprised and i ll tell you why. i ve seen president trump in meetings one on one or meetings and things had to be patched up. and people have to get to know each other. he didn t get to where he is. and now he s president elect in the united states. in his business deals, i guarantee you there are all kind of problems he s dealt with. blowout arguments permits or buildings or whatever. he ll walk into a meeting. and people will say this is a gracious personable guy. he s a hard guy not to like, especially in meetings like that. so i m not surprised. do you know what they talked about? have you had a chance to talk to donald trump about it? i talked to him briefly today when he swung through the rnc. but we obviously i wasn t downloading on details with him. but i m sure it was very positive and the reports are indicative of that. you know, bernie sanders today talked about donald trump on cnn. i wanted to play for you part of what e said. the election is over. donald trump won. i intend to work with president trump. i will vigorously oppose him if he appeals to racism or sexism or some of the other discriminatory measures that he brought up during his campaign. reince you have seen the protests. they are out there again on the streets tonight protests against trump s presidency. does he need to. does he feel he should reach out to these people explicitly and assuage their fears? well erin yesterday morning keep in mind donald trump spoke to the american people, just yesterday morning. and when he was getting ready for that speech, it was nothing about bragging about the election, nothing about continuing the rhetoric, the political rhetoric that was that was indicative of a political campaign. it was all about coming together, leading all americans no matter battleground, race, ethnicity, gender, whatever the case is. and it was donald trump that led. and it was him that decided this is the direction to go. let s bring people together. let s cool the water. so this is how it is going to be from now. that is what he did. it wasn t a speech nartd wloer said read this speech. no he sat down and made sure it was the right speech at the right time. and just yesterday morning, his sitting down with 90 minutes with the president. is another indicator. people should look at. here is a person who just won the presidency. and he s sitting down having a 90 minute conversation should have been 10 with the president and she s working hard and showing the country he s working hard to move the country forward. but i would say the agenda americans were in favor of was an agenda that the republican party, meaning our candidate, including president elect trump, house and senate candidates put on the table. the other part of this is that we have an obligation then to pursue the promises that we made in t in the campaign that people voted for. they voted and said yes we with want those things to be done in washington. so those things will be done. we don t have a mandate to water down our promises. we have a mandate to perform the things that we promised. so a wall banni, banning mus immigration from that s not the promise that is not the position he laid out. and this has now been since june that he gave that speech. i believe to either the american leagues or vfw. in june he said his position is if the country is harbor b terrorists in the risk of the security of the united states that he would take member to suspend those immigration visas until a better vetting system is in place. that is consistent with many bills in the house and senate. and it is what donald trump s position is. so if the media wants to go back now. not you in particular erin, but if if media wants to go back now and stir the pot and now claim he want this is muslim ban that he s made it clear through a three disabilities through june that this was not his position. it would do us all a favor if the media would get together and quit stirring the pot he did say it originally. and i donald trump and then it is going to be certain countries. and then countries that harbor terrorists. those what are those countries? is that nothing to do with being muslim at all? he s got to iron out very completely what he meant because he made it very clearly about religion. he said repeatedly that there is no religious test. and for you all to be coming back and relitigating something that was that is now five months old is what the problem is in our country. the problem is we ve got to fill 24 hours a day, 7 days a week of cable stations that create these issues that don t exist, and then turn people against each other. if the media is so interested in america coming together, then they ought to do their job and quit stirring the pot where it should belong. do you think reince that he also carry answer obligation? you have muslims in this country who are worried. they are afraid. they are afraid of what will happen and they are afraid of what erin i ve talked to ceos in other countries who are worried about this. isn t this incumbent on donald trump to come out and be very clear and the leader e rrin, listen. i think you are very good but i m very surprised that this is the conversation we re having. yesterday morning, yesterday morning, he just gave a speech about americans coming together. and you are asking me now on thursday whether he needs to do another i mean, i m not sure what you are asking for. he s the president for all americans. he s made that very clear. we re making it clear. and to go back to, you know, old issues when they have been asked over and over again and have been answer by president elect trump, people need to understand that he understands. i promise you. i know where his head and heart is at. and he said it. so just trust his own words. he ll be a president for all american, republican, democrat, independent, any religion, any faith. he s your president and he s going do the he s going to do a fantastic job and he understands the gravity and the seriousness of the position. reince priebus. thank you very much. appreciate your time tonight. thank you erin. and new tonight donald and melania trump are back in new york tonight. melania trump spent the morning with the first lady, michelle obama and this is a picture of the first meeting, the two having tea, after one of the ugliest presidential campaigns in recent history. suzanne malveaux is out fror ou at the white house. reporter: one thing to talk about your kids. safe territory. a good ice breaker. that is exactly what michelle obama as well as melania trump did. you might recall, sasha and malia were quite young. and it is melania trump whose concerned. very protective of her 10-year-old son baron. so that is something they share. this is very different than what their husbands experienced today. no cameras not. press. we have one photo from the white house press office. all smiles. we are told that it started off with a tour of the residence. and went to the truman balcony. that as you know erin the place where the first lady and barack obama, the president, spending a lot of quality time there. so it is a special place for them. they took them there. and also melania was shown taken to the state floor in the white house to meet with the curator of the white house. that is bill almond. and he really is a human encyclopedia for all things inside of the building. and so she got a tour and she also got a lot of ideas about the white house looks like. the public space as well as the private space. and all of this as you know really meant to give them an opportunity, a chance to break the ice here in light of a very bitter campaign. this was with michelle obama saying quite publicly, quite forcefully making her case that she did not believe melania s husband was fit for the office and also followed the rnc convention where we saw melania introduce her husband but also seemingly take a portion from her speech very similar to michelle obama s in 2008. so there is a lot of fodder there for both of they want. but the white house says this is just the first of many meetings, erin. all right. thank you very much suzanne. a meeting would have been great to be a fly on the wall in both meetings. joining us now our panel. we ll see who ends up being the chief of staff. let s start with what you just saw. the michelle obama and melania trump meeting. symbolic moment but obviously very cordial. both of these meetings between donald trump and the president and melania trump and michelle obama. this is good for the american people to see. because it does represent i turning the page. going away from this nasty campaign where everyone said mean things about each other. now we re moving forward. it is the hallmark of the united states t peaceful transition of power. and it is heartening no see them talking to each other like civil humans. and let s because if anybody wouldn t be able to talk to each other likes civil human, it might be these two people given what they have said in the past. and yet they were so gracious to each other today. here are some of the things they had to say about each other. my priority is my son barron our son barron. i m a full time mother to our son barron. at the end of the day my most important title is still mom in chief. actually that wasn t the sound bite i was looking for. but phillip, you know they do have obviously having in common. michelle and melania trump. but let me play what i wanted to play which is president obama and president elect donald trump saying such nice things about each other today. i have been very encouraged by the, i think, interest in president elect trump s wanting to work with my team. mr. president, it was a great honor being with you. and i look forward to being with you many, many more times in the future. very good man. thank you guys. heartening things to hear. heartening image and hopefully healing for americans who are so divided right now. amazing picture because donald trump sitting in front of a bust of martin luther king j.r. it is a peaceful transition of power. i do think it seemed like he was a little nervous and understandably so. the weight of this job is going to be tremendous. and i think in that 90 minute time period donald trump got an understanding of just how important this road is going to be. i want to ask on the issue that came up in reince priebus and my conversation about the in this case it was about how donald trump would treat muslims. but there are other groups in this country who are also concerned. does donald trump need to speak to these people? some of whom are protesting now. and say if his policies have changed, how and why? does he need to talk to them david? yes i think he does. i don t think he needs do it immediately. and you have to say both he and president obama have given an excellent tone for the transition. gives us many you have more assurance about how the transition itself will be conducted. there are going to be issues that come up in the next few days. if trump names steve bannon as his chief of staff you are going to hear a lot of flurry about that one. but beyond that, i think that over time he does need to reach out. he ll have a couple of speeches coming up i m sure public remarks where he can say some of those things. but ify if he were more proactive and call people in and talk to them. that is the kind of smart thing. you sometimes needs to do things that are a little daring in order to get attention and people say yeah okay i get it. should he do that jeffrey? call? have a meeting with whatever group it may be. muslim americans. muslim leaders in this country. zrump a good leader. he s a good executive. the donald trump you saw there is the donald trump that i know and so many of his friends and the people who work for him now. skpoi totally expect him to be doing this. that said i want to say something about the protests here. i have the gray hair for a reason. and it is because at my age i have seen i ve grown up. and in my lifetime i have seen. and i m sure some of these are the same people in the streets over vietnam. there were a million people in the streets protesting ronald reagan s nuclear policy. they are demanding nuclear free. carrying paper ma shay heads and saying it is not a movie ron. they do the this all the time. they are going to do this to donald trump. they did it to poor hubert humphrey in chicago. some of these people are not going to change because it is their profession. this is not vanity. that is reaction to real concerns. we may not remember exactly everything donald trump said during the course of the campaign but we ll remember how we felt. whether it is the muslim community, whether it is african americans being concerned about the reintroduction of stop and frisk. whether it is the immigrant community broadly. i think there is real anger and concern. look, the tone on tuesday night and told have been great. so the question then becomes is he going to be the person that is welcoming to all these communities and let people know that he is going to be the president for everyone? i was in the protests last nights. i was watching your twitter feed. it was young people. promptly young women who are concerned about donald trump not because they are concerned about donald trump s policies. they are concerned about donald trump as donald trump. and donald trump cannot sit down with a woman and make that go away. he needs to demonstrate other the next four years he s doing 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very eager to see this picture. and thank you for sharing it. thank you. i hope it makes people feel hopeful and comforted. that is really why i posted it. thank you. thank you so much. we re learning more tonight about what the clinton campaign thinks went so wrong versus what they expected. obviously she was out in the woods with bill taking a walk today. and she posed for that pitcher. life goes on. it has to. and the fact they are hiking in the woods. but i think, you know, to that woman s point, seeing a lot of hillary clinton supporters in my facebook feed and on twitter, i think a lot of women especially just wanted to give her a hug. so hearing that, that this women did that, i think she spoke for a lot of folks out there who are upset. and there are. there are tens of millions of them when you look at the vote here. that is how this country s split. and better the donald trump loss. and the other way around as well. and the new york times is reporting that hillary clinton privately is admitting she stepped in when he did something that . she said deplorables. let me just play exactly what she said. to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of trump s supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. right? the racists, sexists, homophobic, zxenophobic, islamophobic, you name it. and unfortunately there are people like that. is that something a lot of people heard. pollsters didn t pick it up and that over the summer could have started to turn that rust belt away from her. i don t know if that is the issue. i do think she believes it was a m misbecause she said so right afterwards. i don t think that in and itself was the issue. i do believe that the way in which she characterized some of donald trump s comments, i think that those are things over the course of time we ve seen and i ve rashed about it. and others have remarked about it. but i think she was particularly contrite o about that and admitted it off the bat. i think the e-mails themselves and the stories about the e-mails that have been fed into the narrative was difficult to over come be. do you think that this actually influenced people. i think it did. and i want to in a partial sense defend hillary clinton here. i think she really believes that but she is not alone right and the things she added. i went back a looked at the speech she had at wesley when she graduated and it has similarities. when i was a wanna beliberal in college. and i began to pick up this the contempt which i believe american liberalism has come to exemplify. and that little statement from her is a snapshot. i totally convinced she really believes it. and more to the point t people that were in the room laughing all agree. ed think you take it a lit too far. they say that liberals have a contempt with the working class which so many of us and to be able to say that she herself has that kind of contempt i think is stretching that comment moral of the story is talk about the candidate. 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here is jeanne moos. she s been a model. she s done commercials. she may seem like an odd duck for a first lady. but melania trump is just like us. at least on first glance at her facebook where she posts videos of beautiful beaches. and that great aero smith concert she ae tended, as well as the fun night with her two boys, the donald and her son barron. the donald the driving. and barron is riding shotgun. and some of her older photos of fun. bat womanen for halloween. wearing a the cat suit. and then this photo. the okay maybe she s not just like us. not everyone has fans. and not everyone goes to galas in the designer gowns. and think christian, beautiful job. fantastic job. reporter: you can t say melania hasn t had plenty of training for all of those dinners she and president trump will be hosting. and updating her instagram became first lady melania trump. and writing such an honor to strit white house. little did she know this would end up being her home when she tweeted this photo captioned at home with my husband. don t worry melania. there is a piano in the white house should you feel the urge to recline. jeanne moos cnn new york. thanks for watching. don t forget you can watch
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yes. i put them all in jail. he did put them all in jail, including crazy eddie himself, his cousin, who got seven years in the pokie. now, speaking of pokey, stick a pen in that for a second. you know how donald trump s sister is a federal judge it hasn t really been a big point of discussion in this campaign but his sister is a federal judge. it came up a little bit during the republican primaries. he asked who he wanted to put on the supreme court and the first name suggested was his sister and then we all had to check to see if he was joking. he said he was joking. but his older sister is a well-regarded moderate federal judge on the circuit court of appeals. donald trump s sister, the federal judge, was married to the man who was the lawyer for crazy eddie all through the crazy, crazy eddie scandal. his name was john barry. he did white collar defense and corporate litigation. he s passed away now. but he was crazy eddie s lawyer through the wads of cash, taped to crazy eddie s body and the cousin narking them out and the whole thing. crazy eddie s lawyer was married to donald trump s sister. crazy eddie s lawyer was also donald trump s personal lawyer for years. and on top of all of that, john barry was also the lawyer that is freaking out the party right now. new jersey is one of those states that holds its statewide elections in off years. their race was not in 2012. it was in 2013. the next one will be in the fall of 2017. they hold their statewide elections in odd number of years. new jersey has been that way for a long time. virginia is the same way. there aren t many states who do that. one of the consequences of being an off-year election state is when they elect their governor in these weird, odd numbered years, they don t have a lot of competition for attention, right? there are not a lot of big ticket races going on to compete for everybody s dollars and the national parties to get involved. just by virtue of the weird schedule. they can get a bunch of national attention and that s what happened in 1981. so in context, that was a year after ronald reagan was elected to the presidency in 1980. the year after that, november of 1981, new jersey had its governor s race. and in that governor s race in 1981, the national republican party newly energized from that huge win with reagan and how they took the seats in congress and the senate, republican party decided they had another shot to go for another big race and they decided to basically flood the zone in that new jersey governor s race in 1981. the republicans flew in national political operatives. they launched this very aggressive scheme where they challenged the registration of thousands of new jersey voters who turned up to the polls in newark, camden and trenton. and in about 75 minority heavy precincts across new jersey that year in that race, they put up these four-foot tall warning signs. when i first saw images of these signs online and in old newspaper articles and stuff, i thought these were like flyers and the piece of a paper and put them on telephone poles or something. they were sandwich board posters, four-foot tall signs that they put outside of polling areas saying, warning, this area is being patrolled by the national ballot security task force. it s a crime to violate election laws. and they were not bluffing. the rnc did actually invent something called a ballot security task force and put these guys on patrol in minority heavy precincts. it s interesting. nobody had advanced warning that they are coming. they just showed up on election day and nobody knew to expect it. they had off-duty police officers and sheriff deputies carrying walkie-talkies wearing ballot security task force arm bands. many were openly carrying guns and they stalked around polling places in minority-heavy districts while they demanded that election workers strike these people off the election rolls. several of these signs were reported at polling places at newark s fourth ward. poll watchers, some of them off-duty policemen wearing guns and arm bands were also near the polls as part of the task force set up by the republican and national state committees to guard against fraud but democrats charge it was a scare campaign to intimidate voters primarily in minority neighborhoods. yeah, you think? who knows how many people were blocked or intimidated from voting in that election in new jersey in 1981. but as voter suppression schemes go, this one clearly worked. both parties would claim that it definitely worked. there were 3 million votes cast in that governor s race. it was decided by less than 1800 votes. and the republican won. and then the democrats sued. the democrats sued the republican party over this ballot security task force stunt. and you know who the republicans used as their lawyer to defend them in that case? donald trump s brother-in-law. the crazy eddie guy who was married to donald trump s sister. he was the lawyer for the republican party in that case in new jersey. and he got creamed in court. i mean, the damage was already done in terms of that governor s race. the republicans won that election by this many votes, right? and the democrats weren t going to be able to get that election back. but what the democrats did get was something called a consent decree, which bans the republican national committee from doing this kind of thing again, from doing anything like this, that problem hib bits them from being involved in any poll-watching shenanigans that targets minority voters. and now today, in 2016, now the snake starts eating its own tail. in 2016, it s not donald trump s brother-in-law, it s now donald trump who is losing that exact case all over again for the republican national committee. go down to certain areas and watch and study and make sure other people don t come in and vote five times. so important that you watch other communities because we don t want this election stolen from us. so go and vote and then go check out areas because a lot of bad things happen. when i say watch, you know what i m talking about, right? you know what i m talking about. take a look at philadelphia, what s been going on. take a look at chicago, take a look at st. louis. every time he says that, you can go ahead and picture reince priebus hiding under a desk, because that s a really dangerous path for the republican party to be on legally. the republican party is still bound by that consent decree from that case in 1981. that case that was lost by donald trump s brother-in-law on behalf of the republican party. because of that case, the republican party has promised they are legally bound to not do the kind of racially charged poll watching they got caught doing back in the battle days in new jersey in 1981. they ve promised not to do it. they are legally bound not to do it through the end of that consent decree and that consent decree was put in place by one way or another since the early 1980s. it is finally set to expire next year. in 2017. the republican party would desperately like to get out from under that consent decree that they have been under since the 1980s but they will not get out from under it if they get caught violating it. they won t get out from under it if they get caught doing racially charged, racially targeted poll watching again like they used to do and that they got caught for. they will not get out from that consent decree if they actually do what donald trump is now asking all republicans to go do now on his behalf. go down to certain areas and watch. watch other communities. go check out areas. when i say watch, you know what i m talking about, right? you know what i m talking about. take a look at philadelphia, chicago, st. louis. or don t. or don t. or don t. thanks to that old case, lost by donald trump s brother-in-law in the early 80s, one of this year s more unexpected freakouts within the republican party is now officially under way. the republican party has issued a special request to all rnc members to please not do what donald trump is asking them to do, to please not gather around polling places in philadelphia and st. louis and chicago or anywhere no matter what the republican presidential candidate is saying on the stump. the national party sent a whole the whole rnc a memo to, quote, remind you of the restrictions placed on the rnc by the consent decree. quote, you are encouraged not to engage in ballot security activities even in your personal state party or campaign capacity if you elect to do so, please be aware that the rnc in no way sanctions your activity. i mean, right now, as it stands, the republican party is legally bound to not do any racially specific poll watching through next year, through 2017. if they get caught doing it, though, the consent decree gets extended until 2025. and the republican party does not want that. they really do not want that. crazy eddie s lawyer is now long gone. but it is kind of amazing that it is now his brother-in-law, the republican nominee for president this year who s the one screwing up that big case, that john barry lost for the republican party back in the 80s. i mean, in the waning days of these elections, in the last two weeks, donald trump is telling his supporters that he doesn t trust the polls anymore and neither should they. he tweeted this this morning. we have not edited this in any way. see if you can figure out why i m saying this. major story that the dems are making up phony polls in order to suppress the the trump. we are going to win. democrats are making up phony polls to suppress the the trump. is that the the so? anything could happen. election day may be a hulla-ba-loo. if they do go try to have a task force or what have you, anything could happen. but right now, the new york times probability that the the trump will lose this election is 93%. the 538 probability is more conservative. they put it at 86%. those are pretty high numbers. it may be that the actual drama in this case is moving down. 538 says there s a 74% chance. the democrats are going to take the senate. new york times puts that probability slightly lower at 67%. because of those kind of numbers, democrats are thinking about long term, right? democrats are thinking about how they can make this a big win for the democratic party beyond winning the white house for hillary clinton. we ve got a bunch of interesting reporting on that subject still ahead tonight, including one race that the democrats are really screwing up. on the other side of the aisle, though, republicans are also thinking long term. republicans are looking at donald trump and thinking about what else it is that they have to lose this year besides the presidency. the republicans basically know now that picking donald trump to be their presidential nominee has almost certainly cost them the white house. what they have to worry about now is whether that s it, whether the price of choosing donald trump might actually be sort of insane. we ve got more ahead tonight. stay with us. his prices are insane. hit me, hit me. ha, ha. whenou he cold, you just want powerful rief. ly new alkseltzer plus fr oarfici dyes d presvative liquid gels delive towerful co symptomelief you needithout thennecessa dives you don t. store manager: cln up, aie alkaeltzer plus liquidels. on this show a couple of days ago. i ll correct it this evening. there s something that i think the democratic party is currently getting very, very wrong but in that case i have no expectation that they will correct it because i don t think they think that they are wrong. but i do. and that story is next. ing 60,000 points from my chase ink card i boug allhe frark. wire. and plants needed to give my sh. a face. neededno oneill forget. e what the power of poin can do forour business. learn more at chase.com/in e t the best place toren castart is in the forest. ku: i y somethin beginnin e t the best place toren castarbeetle: snow.orest. kubo: . etle: snow covered trees. monkey: nothing to do with snow. narrator: head outside to discoverncredible animals and beautifuplants that come together narratorto can outside to diunfoettae adnture.imals kubo: wow! and beautifuplants that come together narrator: so grab your loved ones monkey: n t even. narratorand explore a world of possibilities. ku: comen, this way. narrator: visit discoverthorest.org to find the closes forest or park to you. he thinks that because he has money, that he can call women fat pigs and bimbos. he thinks that because he s a celebrity that he can rate women s bodies from 1 to 10. he thinks that because he has a mouthful of tic-tacs he can grope any woman within groping distance. i ve got news for you, donald trump, women have had it with guys like you. [cheers and applause ] and nasty women have really had it with guys like you. yeah. and get this, donald, nasty women are tough. nasty women are smart and nasty women vote. and on november 8th, we nasty women are going to march our nasty feet to cast our nasty votes to get you out of our lives forever. elizabeth warren i think coining nasty feet for the first time in political history. we keep saying things are unprecedented and then we keep saying, oh, yeah, in the 1860s. i think nasty feet is first. i think that was a first. elizabeth warren on the campaign trail with hillary clinton. this is the first time they have campaigned together in the same place since the democratic convention. as you saw there, elizabeth warren scorched donald trump but she saved some of her other best bolts for one of the senate colleagues for kelly ayotte of new hampshire who is up for re-election who may not survive. donald trump, call latinos rapists and murderers, trump stayed with him. trump called them thugs and kelly stuck with them. trump attacked a gold star family and kelly struck with him. trump even attacked kelly ayotte and called her weak. and kelly stuck with him. i mentioned at the top of the show that the chances of the democratic party taking control of the senate are pretty good right now. that s 67% from the new york times, the highest probability the times has put on that yet all year long. and that is just one number for an overall probability that the democrats will win control of the senate. but it s not just one election, right? taking the senate doesn t happen in one fell swoop, it happens race by race and candidate by candidate. that s why the top campaign events now sound like this. marco rubio said donald trump is a con man and donald trump is dangerous. therefore, i support whoa, whoa, whoa. wait a minute. how can that work? if he won t stand up against donald trump and there are plenty of republican who is are standing up against donald trump and calling him out. marco rubio won t. and patrick murphy will be a great u.s. senator. tim kaine taking some shots at republican senator marco rubio who is up for re-election in florida. senator kaine there also talking up the democratic candidate in that race, congressman patrick murphy. and you would think things would be going reasonably well for patrick murphy right now. the polls have definitely tightened in that race. the latest poll in florida shows him within two points of marco rubio. last week, patrick murphy got the endorsement of marco rubio s hometown paper, the miami herald. he s been endorsed by all four of florida s largest newspapers, three of which backed marco rubio when he first ran for the senate. also, the prevailing climate looks good for democrats in florida. hillary clinton leading trump by about four points at the top of the ticket. democrats running a huge ground operation in that state. and so, mystery, here s the mystery. why is the democratic party just pulled its money out of the senate race? last week, the campaign arm of the senate democrats canceled millions of dollars of florida ads they were going to run against marco rubio and for patrick murphy. that followed by a couple of weeks the biggest democratic super pac doing the same thing. why is that? i mean, i know that the democrats have to make choices. i get that, obviously. democrats want to win as many seats as possible advertising florida as expensive. the amount of money it takes to advertise a week in florida, you could spend the same amount of money and advertise in two or three cheaper states, states like north carolina or missouri. the timing and strategy of this is still weird. florida would really appear to be a winnable race for the dems. these are the last three polls. they ve either shown a tie or it s within two points. early voting has started in most florida counties. democrats are psyched with where they are. they believe they are ahead of where they were four years ago when romney beat obama in florida. the latino vote in florida is up, oh, i don t know, 99%, from this same point in the race four years ago. 99% increase in the latino vote. how do you think donald trump s going to do with the latino vote? by all objective measures, marco rubio would appear to be beatable in florida in a race which could determine control. he got shellacked there in the presidential primary. now, he s going to win there while donald trump likely loses the state? really? why are democrats giving up on this race? does it make sense? joining us now is steve, former state director for the 2008 obama campaign in florida and senior adviser in 2012, now a democratic strategist. mr. shell, it s really nice to have you here. thanks for having me on, rachel. do you think i mean, first of all, am i describing the democratic calculus here right, that it s so expensive to spend money in florida that maybe you re better off spending that money in the same states in is that basically the map that they are doing here or have they got other factors? they viewed this very anti-septically. the reality is, patrick murphy shouldn t be standing and i think they were right in september when down 7 or 8 points to slow walk the race. but the last four polls have shown even two and down one in two polls and down in another. we re basically in a dead heat. 14 days out, it s like it was and i don t understand the decision at this point. well, and is this the sort of thing where in these last two weeks money from the democratic party is what he needs? obviously you think that he s in shooting distance but in terms of what he needs to do to win, would tv ads and radio ads be the sort of thing that would make the difference here? yeah, absolutely. there s an old saying in florida that the win state you have to lose statewide and it comes from name i.d. or without money. murphy really shouldn t be standing. he s out 4-1 since the primary but he is. and what he needs is help with hispanics, which the president has cut an ad in spanish for him and needs help with name i.d. and the i-4 corridor. places li places like tampa and orlando and i think with the clinton turnout operation, today the early vote numbers and major i-4 counties are phenomenal for us. i mean, really almost shockingly good. i think he s right in this thing. in terms of the more personal picture here, it s also not that it s just any senator. it s marco rubio. yeah. and i wonder, within florida, having been beaten so badly in his home state primary, i mean, he lost the republican presidential primary badly but he really lost at home, what s marco rubio standing in the state and what are his long-term prospects as a politician coming from florida right now? well, i think there s two ways to look at it. first of all, if you look at our u.s. senate races, in the same term as presidential elections, our democratic nominees are usually within a point or two of the top of the ticket. the only exception is bill nelson who outperformed president obama in 2012. marco rubio is no bill nelson. he didn t get a majority of the year when he ran and, you know, we go into this thing and republicans acknowledge it s a race at this point and, again, i don t really want to have this conversation with you in 2019 and say, wow, if we had only spent 4, 5 million more, we could have taken him out when we had the chance. senior adviser, 2012, democratic strategist, steve, thanks for being with us. nice to see you. thanks again, rachel. all right. still ahead, some surprising and slightly nauseating news from a person who i think is the most surprising senate candidate of the year. that s ahead. stay with us. miles per ho. to wboth on the track matters. d thousands of miles away. wi t help of at&t, red bull racing can sha critical information about every inbrakes a gettingarm.tually anywhere. coirmed, daniel you need to cool your brakes. vi tm the agility to hek 2ally spee& precisn. becae no one knows & l at&t. 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[ laughter ] cool. he s pouring like fish bowls full of red wine there. the key to a happy retirement, everybody says, is to keep busy. now that john boehner has escaped washington and floor votes and object stin nant caucus goers, he can drink wine and take care of his lawn. also, hitting the open road in his rv on his youtube channel he says he s out in freedom one in this clip, that s the name of his rv, freedom one. he says he s, quote, somewhere upon america s asphalt prairie. retirement looks different for everybody, right? president obama is about to have his own political retirement, forcibly thrust upon him as of late january. we ve now got word that his retirement is apparently going to involve a lot more politics than what john boehner has been doing. we ve got some of that reporting ahead. stay with us. have fun with your replaced win. run away! [ grunts ] leave hi leaim! [ music continues ] brick and ar, what?! 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redrawing congressional districts along party lines feels flat-out wrong but it is, in most cases, how the system is built and republicans really did pull off this amazing trick in 2010 with very little money and no hoopla and republicans have had nothing equivalent to this in their toolbox. after president obama won in 2008, republicans mobilized this little thing, they were able to mastermind it and execute this plan. it was political genius. mr. jankowski, welcome to genius week. i think you were a genius. president obama has 87 days last in office. he s almost done. we have now learned a little bit about what he s going to do next after leaving office. and so, behold, the national democratic redistricting committee. he s going to be focused on redistricting reform for democrats. they are going to organize initiatives and legal challenges to redistricting maps and push for democrats winning in down-ticket races. president obama s former attorney general eric holder is going to chair the group and president obama has decided he wants this to be the main political focus of his post-presidency life. redistricting. what a better time to start than now. and as of right now, president obama is taking his first presidential jab at those key down-ticket races. he s doing something he s never done before. this week, president obama is endorsing 150 candidates for state senate and senate assembly across 20 different states. he specifically is targeting state candidates who win might flip a state legislature. this is a huge effort. this is something that president obama has never done. it s something no president has ever done. but what does this mean for democrats down-ticket in this election cycle and in election cycles to come? is this a good answer which republicans did so effectively after president obama was first elected in 2008? how effective will this be? joining us now, steve kornacki, host of the 4:00 p.m. hour here on msnbc and an all-around smart man. how you doing? president obama is am i right to say that president obama is doing something that presidents otherwise haven t done? we ve never seen this kind of an effort systematically. yeah. we ve entered into a new era. it s on people s radar in a way it hasn t been before. it s a strategy and on the minds of democrats and they feel they need to do something. there s a structural component of this, too, where republicans can come up with a plan they came up with and they are sort of running downhill. they are at an advantage when you start talking about redistricting, when you start talking about congressional district lines or state legislative lines. this is the legacy of the obama era, how the two political coalitions have evolved. the democratic coalition right now probably has the numbers to win a national election. you talk about it all the time. it s young people, single women in particular, nonwhite voters, white collared professionals. those people more and more ever are packed more and more tightly into cities in metropolitan areas. the geographic reach, if you re talking about square miles, if you re talking about land mass, area, the geographic reach arguably has never been smaller. so the numbers are there but they are increasingly packed into smaller and smaller really into smaller numbers of districts. uh-huh. it s much easier, if you re a republican and want to draw lines to give yourself control of the state legislature or congressional map, it s much easier to do that because you don t have your voters aren t in these rural areas, you might not have 90% but you ve got 60%. democrats are sitting on 90% in a lot of here s the stat that i think explains the evolution of politics better than anything else. go back to 1988. michael dukakis got wiped out in a landslide loss. a solved victory for barack obama. he wins 690 counties. the gentlemen graphic share shrinks that much that in a big win they lost ground. if em democrats don t want to concede, that geographic is destiny. if they want to roll that stone up that hill, is this the way to do it, to try to be strategic about winnable seats, to try to flip legislatures in a way that s advantageous? absolutely. it s a longer-term question and the best news for democrats on that front is, look, in 2010, which is the legislatures that were seated is a result of the 2010 election. it was an off-year election and a mid term election with a democratic president. this is a democratic president. that recipe is the best thing republicans could ever hope for. . the next time that s going to happen, 2020, not a mid-term year. they have maybe more of an opportunity in 2020 than in 2010. and maybe by starting it in 2016 they ll get their training wheels on. exactly. lots more to come, stay with us. and i could take him behind the gym, that s what i wish. i westeish we were in high sl and i could take him behind the gym. apology presumably coming from the vice president s office in three, two let s check it. for saying on friday that he wishes he could take donald trump out behind the gym and teach him a lesson, joe biden would soon issue an apology. was that true or was that false? very false. not only did vice president joe biden not apologize for saying that, he said it again today in toledo, ohio. i ll get myself in trouble and say something like i d like to take him behind the gym if i were in high school. all kiddin aside, wouldn t you? i mean, for real. can you imagine a guy in the locker room talking that way and your sister s out there watching the game? not a joke. if i were in high school. i want to make it clear. i understand what assault is. i m not in high school. if i were in high school. i ued to be, i used to have a temper in high school. i don t have a temper anymore. i don t ever, nothing ever bother the me. look, folks. i get it, no. no. vice president clearly working it today, restraining himself, having a little fun, but in no way apologizing for saying that he wants to take donald trump behind the gym to teach him a lesson. our playfully pugilistic vice president. i was very wrong about that. we don t know who the next vice president will be. but tomorrow night we will have a chance on this show to get a really close look at the leading contender. democratic vice president nominee tim kaine will be joining us exclusively here in studio. senator kae eoe eor kaine has b before, but we ve not talked to him since he s running for vp. i m very much looking forward to that. that s tomorrow night. stay with us. using 60,000 ps fr my cse ink card i bought all the framework. wire.. and ts a face. no one wilforget. learn more at chase.com/in no one wilforget. esurance does auto insurance a smdiscnt.. they offer a claime beuse ferivers cost less to iure, which saves mey. and when they save, you save. th s auto home inscefor the mod. esurance, an allstate company. ance does auto insurance a smarter way. like tir photoims ol. hpsete your claim quy, whh sas timewhh ves money.d when they save, you sav. that suto and home insuran r thmodern world. esurance, an allstate company. ick or cal from the creatve galaxy in my idea box would yohelp me make a each one of our journeys eeps us youn y, i have an idea! wear: go be amazngder. amazing! announcer: give your caboard box another life. trust number oneoctor recommended lcolax constipated? use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for reef in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard odulcolax, desied for dependable rie we ve been keeping track here at the show of newspaper endorsements in the presidential race. it s been a weird year for that. the names listed on the left are a selection of hillary clinton s formal daily newspaper endorsements. she has a lot of them. the last time we reported on trump endorsements, he had three, one each from tiny papers in santa barbara, california, waxahachie daily light in texas. you guys have been super helpful at tracking these endorsements, particularly, when they re really tiny papers. send us tips, please. it s been very helpful. tonight thanks to you guys we can add the times gazette. there s also for the first time, a big one. shelton adeleson, a big league republican donor, funded the gingrich campaign all by himself in 2012. this winter, when a paper got a mystery owner, it was the las vegas review journal s own staff who was forced to ferret out their own owner. that was sheldon adeleson. it s not at all weird for super rich people to give money to political candidates nor weird for them to buy newspapers. it was weird that he tried to buy and run a newspaper anonymously, but his reporting staff caught him. he went into this election cycle planning to donate $100 million
benefiting the most are not high frequency voters. that s huge. their benefit is needed, i think. thanks for joining us tonight. that s all in for this evening. make sure to stick around because it s veep night on msnbc. rachel maddow has an exclusive interview with tim kaine and mike pence will join brian williams. that is true. almost a little weird, but thank you for the preview. it is, in fact, vice president day here on msnbc. vice president or would be vice president day. chris matthews this afternoon had an interview with our current vice president of the united states, joe biden. joe biden is now into a third day of explaining what he meant when he said he wishes he was in high school and he could take donald trump out behind the gym because he wants to get in a fight with him, basically. donald trump today responded that he, too, would kind of like to go get in a fight with joe in terms of clinton/kaine, they ve already outraised trump 2-1, the new york times projection as to who is likely to win puts hillary clinton at a 93% chance of winning the presidential election. you might think just in terms of the fund-raising pace, they could afford to ease up a little bit, right? and they might have done that if the fund-raiser were just for them but they re not just running clinton for president and kaine for vice president. they don t want to just win the white house. they want democrats to win governorships and control of congress or to get as close as they can. they obviously want democrats to get control of the senate. for the clinton/kaine campaign, it is pedal to the metal from now till the end. 41 fund-raisers from now until november 3rd. he had five today alone. he squeezed me in between them. that s on the democratic side. on the republican side, it s nothing like that at all. mateo gold at the washington post reports tonight that the comparable fund-raiser effort on the republican side is already over. in fact, it ended last wednesday. the washington post reports tonight that donald trump did his last big dollar joint fund-raiser for his campaign in the republican national committee last wednesday and he s not going to do any more. there are no further events planned. quote, we have kind of wound down. from here on out, quote, there is virtually nothing planned. it s hard for me to overstate how strange that is two weeks ahead of the election. the repubcan nominee is on track to lose the presidential election largely because of the magnitude of his expected loss, republicans are also on track to been passing around sign up tallies. but they don t bother to collect the sheets. they leave them there, nobody picks them up, let alone do anything with them. next door in nevada which is to be a swing state although it s turning increasingly blue. watch this. this is a remarkable exchange between the great chris jansing from nbc and the republican party chairman in the second largest county in nevada. right? clark county includes las vegas, that s the most populated county in the state of nevada. washoe county has reno. this guy is the county chairman from that part of nevada. again, nevada s supposed to be a swing state? his county is supposed to be a swing county. swing counties and swing states are supposed to be, you know, desperately fought over at this point. but watch this from the republican chairman of that county. this is just incredible. the tension i m talking about interviews with the campaign, yard signs, bumper stickers hats. yard signs and bumper stickers. correct. you called the trump campaign. 606-[ bleep ]. and you say can you have yard signs? you say i am the chairman of a swing county in a swing state. you guys need to talk to me. i need 2,000 yard signs, i need 10,000 bumper stickers, and i don t even get a call back. that s a swing county in a swing state. republican party chairman there saying two weeks out from the election he had the phone number memorized. we bleeped it there so you don t all call it. but he s got the phone number memorized. he calls the trump campaign every day begging for yard signs and bumper stickers and didn t even get a callback. what are they doing that s more important than trying to compete in swing counties in swing states with county chairman that need specific help? what s the trump campaign coulding if they re not doing that? what is the trump campaign, is it just a traveling road show for donald trump to appear at events in front of crows that like him because that makes him feel good. whatever the trump campaign is now and whatever they re planning on doing for the last two weeks, it is unusual. the washington post again reported tonight that trump campaign has effectively cut off the republican party and stopped even trying to help other down-ballot republicans save themselves. and politico.com was the first to report tonight that the republican party in response is hitting the panic button. the panic button is apparently labeled dark money and they punched it big time tonight. according to politico.com this evening mitch mcconnell s senate super pac in conjunction with karl rove remember him mitch mcconnell and karl rove have somehow instantly conjured out of the dark money wilderness a whopping pile of $25 million million which they just announced tonight they ll start shoveling into six contested senate races. they re announcing that tonight. the fastest they can start spending that money is tomorrow. that means they ve got $25 million to spend on senate races over 13 days. if they also spend on election day itself. that is a phenomenal last-minute money dump. and who knows where that money came from? incredibly while they ve decided to do that through the mitch mcconnell super pac, the nominee decided he ll coast to the finish. no more republican party fund-raisers, helping nobody, where can i go to find somebody to tell me that they love me. he does remain on the top of the ticket. he continues to be the republican party s problem and he continues to be the presidential nominee of a major political party. as such he continues to be subject to scrutiny, subject to the kind of full body mri, the kind of full body background check that the national media does on everybody who runs for president. and we have something new to report tonight. the ongoing reporting on donald trump s background tonight has turned up something new and something dramatic and something very, very, very inflammatory that we have got here exclusively next. go paperless, n t stress, girl sdriver acct-free everybody put your aps in t aor me go papees don t stress, i got the discounts at you need safe driver accident-free erybody p your flaps in the air for me i can t lisynch in these conditions. savings oh, yeah teachers, nurses and firefightes support prop 51. prop 51 will upgrade libraries, science labs, and classroom technology and relieve school overcrowding creating more opportunity . . . and better learning for students help students succeed vote yes on 51. federal justice against their real estate firm. that lawsuit by the department of justice claims that the trump management company systematically refused to rent to black people. african-american new yorkers would apply for an advertised vacancy in a trump building and then they would just never hear anything back from their application or be told that the vacancy was listed in error and actually that unit wasn t really available. one crucial part of the investigation in that case was an equally qualified white new yorkers would show up at the trump company and they would inquire about those same apartments, magically, the suit alleged the apartment would be back on the market and available for the white applicant even though the black applicant had just been told that that apartment was gone. that doj lawsuit against the trump company was ultimately settled when the trump company signed on the a consent decree where they would desegregate their properties, start renting to black people. that s one of the allegations against the trump corporation for racial discrimination, over the course of this presidential campaign it has become a hot point of contention. hillary clinton raised it in first presidential debate. trump said that the consent agreement reflected no admission of wrongdoing, then after he used that as a rebuttal, newspapers and news outlets have looked into those allegations to the way that suit was settled to the other suits that were brought against trump real estate properties. today alone the las vegas sun published an account from a woman who now lives in nevada who says she was one of the white people who was sent in as a tester at trump properties after a black applicant would allegedly be told that an apartment was not available, she d show up as a white applicant with basically the same qualifications and she d be offered the apartment. that story today in the las vegas sun. the woman recounting her own experience in being involved in the lawsuits. mother jones had another story tonight on additional discrimination lawsuits brought against the trump organization not in the 1970s, but in the 1980s. i can now tell you that nbc news has been working on a report on the way the trump company allegedly discriminated against black people in rental housing. in the course of the investigation they ve turned up what we have exclusively tonight, a troubling eyewitness account from a man who worked as a rental agent at a trump property. he says it was basically his job to do the discriminating. he says he was instructed directly to slow walk or outright reject potential tenants if they were black because they were black. but listen to this. listen to what he told nbc news when he was asked exactly how that instruction came to him and who was in the room while it happened. just take me back into that room. so you were sitting in the room and he was there. describe the scene to me. a black lady completed an application for an apartment in the building, a one-bedroom apartment, as i recall. and it was a very professionally application, it was checked and verified, there were no liens, no judgments against her. and she was calling me on a daily basis wanting to know the status of her application. one day mr. trump and his son donald came into the office, and i asked fred trump what i should do with this application because she s calling me constantly. and his response to me was you know i don t rent to the n-word. put the application in the deck and forget about it. so fred trump used the n-word and told you we don t rent to people like that. that is correct, yes. what was your response? i was employed by them. i did what he said. so this is the raw tape of an nbc producer in that diner right, noisy diner, interviewing this rental agent who worked at a trump property and in the course of explaining basically how he says racial discrimination worked at the trump organization back in the day when they were deciding who to rent to, he just mentions that young donald trump was standing there alongside his father when he says, the father instructed this rental agent not to rent to anybody who was black and he says, when donald trump s father explained that his policy was not to rent to anybody who was black, what he actually used was the n-word to explain that policy while donald trump stood right next to him. obviously, given that donald trump is now running for president, that s a very inflammatory allegation. the producer goes back to the rental agent to clarify that this is exactly what he s talking about. do we mean you to say that donald trump, the man running for president, was there when that happened, when that language was used? he said put it in the drawer, forget about it. you know i do not rent to the n-word people. and that s what i did. and donald trump was right there? donald trump was right alongside his father when i wans instructed to do that, yes. so this is obviously a very explosive allegation about donald trump and his time working with his father at the trump organization in the 1960s when he would have been a very young man, also in the 1970s. just to be 100%, 1,000% totally clear, the producer goes back to the rental agent, asked him again, are you sure that donald trump witnessed his father explain this was discriminatory policy, would not rent to black people but used the n-word to explain that. are you sure. when his father told you not to rent apartments to people of color, what was donald s response? and he shook his head, that s the way it s supposed to be. agreeing with his father. again, this is exclusive content. this has never been broadcast before. this is material obtained by nbc news just over the course of reporting this story within the last few weeks. what this rental agent says is a very specific, explosive allegation against donald trump personally, in terms of what he witnessed and went along with and signaled his ascent to as a young man working in his father s organization. now, the trump campaign has responded to that specific allegations tonight. they gave us this response on the record. quote, that is total nonsense. that s their formal response from the campaign to these allegations. but i want to show you also so you understand where that reporting came from, here is how nbc news is contextualizing this allegation. here s how they re folding it into their overall story about discrimination by the trump organization at the very start of donald trump s real estate career. it was 1963 in new york city and maxine broup wwn was lookinr a place to live in queens. she applied for an apartment owned by donald trump s father. they asked what kind of job i had and they were surprised to hear i was a nurse. but she wasn t welcome. i was turned because because of my color. stanley leibovitz was the agent that took maxine s application. fred trump came into my office with his son donald at his side. i asked him what should i do with the application of miss brown. he told me take the application and put it in the desk drawer as he does not rent to people of color utilizing the n-word and donald trump shook his head agreeing with his father. by 1967 state investigators found that out of some 3700 apartments in trump village only seven were occupied by african-american families. by 1973 donald trump was the president of trump management. and she was a teacher looking for a place to live. she went to a difficult trump building also in betweens. i was black. i don t think it looked good in their estimation to have black people living in their facility. she says there is no doubt in her mind that donald trump continued the practices of his father. dependent of justice alleged an employee was told to write applications from african-americans with the letter c for coloreds. he said there were no apartments, that was not true. she wouldn t have spoken up had donald trump not brushed off the company s bad behavior. it s important that history not be erased. donald started his career back in 1973 being sued by the justice department for racial discrimination. annette was part of that lawsuit. we, along with many, many other companies throughout the country, there s a federal lawsuit, were sued. we settled the suit with zero, with no admission of guilt. it was very easy to do. court records show it actually wasn t so easy to do. three years after the settlement, the department of justice went back to court saying trump was not complying with the settlement agreement. four years after that, the trump organization was again taken to court and the class action lawsuit alleging a pattern of discrimination. some 20 years after maxine brown was turned away. the trump organization and several other landlords settled the class action in 1984. sheila norris was one of the white testers sent in to a trump building the day after a black applicant was told no apartments were available. when i got there, oh, the superintendent greeted me with open arms. oh, yes, come, i ll show you the apartment. morse was offered a two-bedroom apartment. annette has kept her documentation from that complaint all those years ago although she says she hasn t looked at it in years. it feels like the time has come to tell the story. when donald trump says that, you know, they did not admit guilt, that may be true, but the fact that there was guilt had to come out. reporting by nbc news investigative reporter cynthia mcfadden. the trump campaign has made a formal response to nbc news on this story. hope hicks says, quote, there s absolutely no merit to the allegations. the suit was brought as a part of a nationwide inquiry against a number of companies and the matter was ultimately settled without any finding of and without any admission of wrongdoing whatsoever. it is not true this lawsuit was brought against a ton of companies nationwide. the first one in particular was specific to the trump organization, but they re sticking with that response anyway. now, in response to the very specific allegation by stanley leibovitz, that rental agent who worked with the trump organization at the time and who says explosively that donald trump stood alongside his father and nodded approvingly when his father used the n-word to describe who they do not rent to, the campaign tells us that that is, quote, nonsense. they re not offering a substantive rebuttal against the allegation. they re just giving us that response. nonsense. we re 14 days out. vice presidential candidate tim kaine is here tonight for the interview. when i sat down with tim kaine today i think i asked him a question he s never been asked before. you have been a missionary in honduras. you have been a civil rights attorney. you have been a city counselor, a mayor, lieutenant governor, a senator, have you ever had a female boss? that s a great question. my interview with tim kaine is 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[boing] [laughte man: you may kiss the bride. applause] woman: ahh. ndistincnvion] aouncer: full life measurein seats starts with ght early on. car crashes are a leading killer of childen 1 to 13. learn how tprevent deaths and injuries bysing the rig car seat for ur child s age and size. last week democratic vice presidential candidate tim kaine was chatting with reporters. they were talking about the upcoming debate, which was last wednesday. and he was saying how well he thought hillary clinton was going to do in that debate, kind of normal stuff, what you would expect. then he unexpectedly turned into mr. mysteriouso. the cryptic spy versus spy version of tim kaine. what did this mean? i don t think there s any doubt about is she going to be up on the substance. she is up on the substance. but the demean matters as well. have you spoken to her about the debate. we have chatted about it. i say chat generally because i m trying not to reveal all the means by which we communicate. but we ve done it a couple of times. she s are excited about it. i m trying not to reveal all the means by which we communicate? what does that mean? tonight he explains. and it turns out it s exactly as spy versus spy mr. mysteriouso as you might thing it is. joining us for the interview, i m very pleased to say, is the democratic nominee for vice president, virginia senator tim kaine. senator kaine, thank you so much for being here. we ve never met in person. i ve been on with you on remote, but glad to be on set. the last time you were with me on remote you were saying there was absolutely no chance that you would be chosen for vice president. i had been through it eight years before and never thought it would be me. i had the same intuition this time but not intuition is correct. i m thrilled to be on the ticket with hillary. you have been a missionary in honduras, a city rights attorney, a governor, a senator, have you ever had a female boss? that s a great question. when i was a practicing lawyer, i had cases where the main lawyer was a woman. but that s it. i served as two mayors on city council, they were both men. when i was lieutenant governor, my governor was a man. when i was dnc chair i essentially reported to the president. this would be the first time i had a female boss. i hadn t thought of it that way. i wonder if it gives you any if it gives you any means of reflecting on not just the historic nature of potential first woman president but some people s shpilkus about that, whether or not people are able to voice it as a criticism that it s an unusual thing. it is. but i love it. i m a civil rights lawyer. i love breaking barriers down and doing new things. our nation does it best when we re doing that. when hillary asked me to serve as her running mate, i just thought of all the strong women who helped me be the i ve won eight elections. i ve had women campaign managers and campaign secretaries and donors and volunteers and voters and i ve been able to be the one with my name on the bumper sticker and yard sign. when she asked me, i get to now play a supportive role. that s what the vice president s main job is to a woman who will make history, to the president who will preside over the celebration of the centennial of women getting the right to vote. the next president will preside over that. as much as you normalize by a woman president, a woman can be anything, my job will maybe that strong men should support strong women in whatever capacity. in terms of your relationship with hillary clinton, obviously you knew her before she asked you to be on the ticket. yeah. you made this cryptic comment where you said i won t comment on the exact means by which we communicate. i was thinking we re training some carrier pigeons so they can t be hacked. do you have to think about that, the ways that you communicate? we do. and we re spreading the zone, i m here, you re this, we cover more ground, but we do communicate a lot and by different means. we knew each other, but we don t know each other as really good friends. i didn t have that kind of relationship with her. in the last two weeks before i was named to the ticket, they thought maybe we should get to know each other. but it s been great. we re both midwesterners, we grew up in republican small business families. a church was a part of who we were. i get the milieu from which she came and it s similar to mine. you mentioned bill clinton and you mentioned strong men supporting strong women. have you given any thought, have you part of any planning in terms of what it s going to be like to have a former president in the white house barack obama is staying in d.c. when he s no longer president. bill clinton will presumably be in d.c. as the president s spouse if you and hillary clinton win. and then there s hillary clinton who will be the president. what sort of thinking or planning is going into dealing we re both superstitious. but we talk about this a little bit. we had a really good conversation about it saturday. but we re not ray suming we re winning. there s a transition team thinking about some of these. actually if you look at it, hillary will make history, president clinton will make history as the first man, first spouse, but also as a president as first spouse. i ll make the least history of the four. but to be a vice president to a woman president and with bill clinton in the white house and my wife is my wife second lady if there s no first lady? so there s no complete playbook for this? but that s cool, too. there s traditions that you honor. but it s also something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. you have to make your own traditions. the ability to create the model a little bit is exciting. in terms of the division of labor and career interests in your own family, i know you described yourself as a feminist. absolutely. you talk about these things in feminist terms but your wife was secretary of education in virginia when you were named to the ticket she gave up that job. yeah. she s supporting you full-time. presumably if you re elected she ll move into whatever we ll call that job. how hard was that for you to navigate? do you have any regret about that? i do. if you had ann here, she d answer it differently. so i think my wife has given up a lot to support me. she was a juvenile court judge and really loving her job when i got elected governor. she could have continued in that role. she wasn t required to step down. but she decided there are things i can t do on the bench that i think i can do as first lady. she helped reform the virginia foster care system. i view that as a sacrifice her giving up that job. she said it was an opportunity for me to take my judicial experience and now do a big leel reform. i think she feels the same way. as secretary of education, she has been a real passionate advocate for the profession of teaching. and that has been a central focus of hers. the head of the department of education has to be responsive to teachers and a million other constituenci constituencies, but that s an umpire s job. but she can advocate for school boards, teachers, ptas, i can carry on the good work that jill biden and michelle obama has done around military families. so i felt sad for her when she said, i think i need to step down, but she said, i just want to make sure that hillary clinton s president, i don t want to be worried about if i have enough vacation days to go on the trail for her, i want to go campaign for her. senator tim kaine talking to me about what it s like to work for and with hillary clinton and what it means for him as a feminist and a politician to be in that role. strong men can support strong women. also clarifying that he and hillary clinton do communicate by secret means in order to keep their conversations safe from prying eyes and hostile hackers. i don t think he meant it in terms of carrier pigeons, but that is what he said. also saying when he was with secretary clinton this past saturday one of the things the two of them had a good conversation is what s going to happen with bill in the white house? what is going to happen with bill in the white house? more ahead with vice president contender tim kaine. stay with us. it s not theoretical. saying stop spending in the red states. do you feel it? i do. hey look, it s those g bu whoa, cute! shawn: ut-up. jess: are you good to d? shaw i m fine [pice siren] [music] ss: how ny did you have? shn: i should be fine jess: you should be? officer: sir, go ahead and step out of the vehicle f me. shawn: ye sir. bud: see ya, budd today, swn s got a heing, we e sow it goes. good luc they re the sa thi it costs a. soot wor i today the washington post officially declared that it considers the state of utah to now be a toss-up in the presidential election this year. which is hilarious. democrats have lost the state of utah by over 40-point margins in three of the last four elections. the best republican showing there in sorry, the best democratic showing there in 20 years was still democrats losing by over 20 points in utah. i mean, if utah is now a toss-up, if a democrat might win utah this year, then the one thing i can tell you is that the democrat will not need to win utah this year. it would be an astonishing statement to win it, right? but is it a good idea to spend resources to make that statement. if things are going well that you re also going to win going . should they just spend what and where they need to to get to 270, then dump everything else they ve got into trying to win other races, in the senate, the congress, the states? it s not a theoretical question anymore as it turns out and not an easy one for the campaign to answer. and that is next with democratic vice presidential candidate tim kaine. using 60,000 points my cha ink card i bought all theramewo. wire. and plants need to give mshop.. a face.. can door your bune. see n i mne unluc. the chance of being involved in a robry is 1 i757. thchances of being strucby lightning. 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yeah, this is the four-dimensional chess that we re playing. it s all based on analytics. do you go for some extra electoral votes or take that money and try to build a bigger margin for a senator. my feeling, having been dnc chair, too, in a presidential year, almost the best thing, almost always to increase your success in congressional races is just to do really well in the presidential election. sometimes true, like 96, that wasn t necessarily true. republicans held on very well in congress even though when bill clinton beat bob dole badly. beat him badly. they re counterexamples. but usually the up tick in a presidential year, so it s worth doing as well as you can on the up ticket. north carolina is an interesting state where the up ticket is not only helping the down ticket but the down ticket is helping the up ticket because there s such a move among progressives in north carolina that the governor has painted the state against its traditions. we have to win that state and win the governor s race. in each state, we re assessing what can we do, can we win, and the tide goes to if we can win and get colleagues elected too congressman butterfield from north carolina. great friend, great congressman. a shrewd tactician. he s being outspoken about this, we know you have to balance things but you re making the wrong call. you re not doing enough for dow ticket. does that critique coming right now, it s not theoretical. he s saying stop spending in the red states, start spending down ticket. do you hear him? we do. we had a really good rally at north carolina central. he made that point to me, and i assured him, look, you know, we re looking where opportunities are. an example is a state of georgia. georgia s a state, significant minority population. polls are close. if we could get over in georgia, this would create something really positive long term that would be great for the entire party, great for the black caucus, great for democratic future, because it s one of the ten largest states. we could get that back in. it would be great. and we are not foresaking north carolina. i have been there so often, and president obama and michelle obama and hillary and preside clinton were all there a lot. but when he makes the case you got to listen, because he is very, very good at this. so all of this, we re factoring in, so i haven t, i wrote an oped for the desert news, but i haven t been to utah yet. did a campaign event in air and a couple in texas, but i m real yeah in a few others. you guys feel like you re effectively strat lly straddlin. you make choices on the fly. we want a congress that we can work with to get some things done. tim kaine tonight on the hard choices democrats are making now. they re basically trying to max out the presidential win in as many states as possible while also doing the max for democratic congressional races and nat ra senate races and all the others. the cacophony around the way they make those decisions is going to get louder and louder over the next 13 days. just watch. more ahead, stay with us. made history when it sold for record price of just under $30 million. and now, another mercedes-benz makes histy lling at just over $30,000. and to think this onactual has a surround-snd stereo. the 2016 cla alease the cla250 for $29a has month at your localeo. mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-ben the best or nothing. teachers, firefighters and nurss support prop 51. prop 51 repairs older schools and removes dangerous lead paint and pipes ensuring classrooms are safe for all students. for safe schools vote yes on 51. my name is jamir dixon and i m a locafor pg&e.rk fieldman most people in the community recognize the blue trucks as pg&e. my truck is something new. it s an 811 truck. when you call 811, i come out to your house and i mark out our gas lines and our electric lines to make sure that you don t hit them when you re digging. 811 is a free service. i m passionate about it because every time i go on the street i think about my own kids. they re the reason that i want to protect our community and our environment, and if me driving a that truck means that somebody gets to go home safer, then i ll drive it every day of the week. together, we re building a better california. teachers, nurses and firefightes support prop 51. prop 51 will upgrade libraries, science labs, and classroom technology and relieve school overcrowding creating more opportunity . . . and better learning for students help students succeed vote yes on 51. every election feels like the most divisive election ever, now, it s a slippery slope to the bottom. we re telling the truth. it is. this is the most divisive one. there are a lot of kbod people in this country who are dyed in the wool, true-blue republicans. yeah. whether or not they re going to vote for donald trump. i don t know what s going to happen to the republican party after this experience with trump as their nominee, but does there need to be a grand gesture from you and president clinton if you two are elected in november. does there have to be some sort of overture, some sort of welcoming place in the administration for republicans? i would hope so. i would hope so, or in policy. look. more than just a token cabinet officer? i would hope so, and look, i think there s going to have to be a grand gesture on the behalf of the gop to say gop does not equal trump. gop does not equal trump. and if we govern, of course, we have to govern for everybody. so there has to be an effort to reach out the. and hillary are kind of talking about that, again, not presumptuously. we have to win first, but what does that look like? one thing that will help us a little bit, give us a little bit of a head start as i think we re going to get a lot of republican votes. john warner, who is the iconic political figure in virginia gave a full-throated endorsement of hillary. he didn t even mention donald trump s name until the last sentence. he talked about what a great senator hillary clinton was, because he was on the committee with her. and i think we re going to have a lot of people on the coalition that got her elected. but that begins a little bit of the outreach. vut burden to govern, you have the burden to govern for everybody. no donald trump on the cabinet, though. i think that s highly unlikely. thank you for the time. i know you re busy of the. i m happy we could do this. vice presidential candidate tim kaine. mike peps wince will be sitting with brian williams. we ve got more from senator k n kaine on the issue of the supreme court and isis. we ve got laugh-out-loud news for you from ohio. anu exain to y c super food ? 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how important this process is, to getting confirmation, as we saw what happened in 1986. more importantly, i think he took head on a lot of the critics and criticism of decisions that he s made and votes he s cast. and i thought in particular, with cory booker becoming historic, you saw the first sho for the 2020 democratic nomination for president. let s just put that on the table. certainly, that s part of the drama and theater of what he chose to do. but i also found it somewhat ironic that just in january of 2016, in legislation that he co-sponsored with mr. sessions, that celebrated those who walked from walked the selma mile, if you will, that he referred to him as it was a great honor to work with him and that he appreciated his commitment to civil rights. and yet now sees him as he referred to him as a danger with danger to our country, as he s been quoted to say. the politics is not lost here. i think everyone in this town understands that. and to have this staged the way it was with the civil rights community, those who were supportive of mr. sessions versus those who were against mr. sessions, first time i ve seen that kind of play out this way. i thought that was dramatic and very effective. michael steele, thank you. don t go anywhere. you re not getting off that easy because i m going to have you react to what we just witnessed in the past hour. to our viewers joining us, the top of the 2:00 p.m. hour here on the east coast, welcome. we are juggling and continue to juggle many different events. we just saw the wrap-up of the sessions hearing. we saw we all witnessed on live televisionnbsolutely extraordinary press conference by the president-elect, his first since july. and earlier our day started with germany would have done and did do. as far as hacking, i think it was russia. russia will have much greater respect for our country when i m leading it than when other people have led it. if putin likes donald trump, guess what, folks, that s called an asset not a liability. turns out that collection was just on the one topic of russia and vladimir putin. michael, a lot of people who do what you do for a living, have been around the process, were a little shaken by what they saw today on so many fronts, bumping up against not just tradition but precedent. we had a former ethics lawyer in the obama administration come on the air with us today who said that what he heard, quote, guarantees scandal, corruption and controversy for at least the first part of the trump ramifications of what he s about to do and whether or not he s listened to that. the lawyers may have advised it, but they re ultimately going to take to heart the orders that their client gives them in terms of how he wants this stuff structured and how he intends to deal with it. so, yeah, i think there s going to be a lot of legal challenges. the question on the legal side is who has standing to bring any lawsuits against donald trump to force his hand on some of this stuff. that s one thing. but i still think the underlying ethical perception is one that will create the biggest to turn for the incoming administration. at the end of the day, that eats at the american people a lot more than anything else. and for an administration that s talking about cleaning swamps and being transparent and wanting to do all these things, it starts with this, i think. michael steele, thank you. as we always thank you for being patient with us and sharing your opinions with us. before we go to kristen welker, who was in the room, it s been a while since we ran through just what it is tha donald trump said on all these topics, so if you ll forgive me, this may hopscotch, as the event did. starting with a lot of car companies are going to be moving in. he meant moving into the united states, moving jobs in or, in some cases, back to the united states. our drug industry has been disastrous. they are getting away with murder. he called himself perhaps the greatest job producer that god ever created. he talked about this intelligence leak as something nazi germany would do. he called the website buzzfeed a failing pile of garbage. in a shouting match with jim acosta from cnn called cnn fake news. about senator lindsey graham, republican of south carolina, quote, he s going to crack that 1% barrier some day. about the ability of turned down a $2 billion deal with dubai. i have no conflict of interest provision as president. quote, i d be the only one who would be able to do that. and on and on on obamacare, a disaster. it s going to be replaced simultaneously, perhaps, the same hour with its replacement. he talked about the wall with mexico. said we re going to build a wall. don t feel like waiting. that was to explain that mexico will reimburse the united states for the cost of the wall. well, kristen welker, you were the only one among us in the room for that event. dy get it about right? reporter: you did. i think you got the list very right. pretty impressive because he certainly did cover a lot. to kind of underscore the point you re making, this was a candidate who was in a constant state of battle. i think what we saw today is be improved. so, i think this was a wide-ranging press conference. it covered a number of issues. but there s still a lot to drill down on as he s just about nine days out from inauguration, brian. kristen, we had immediately following the event you were making your way out to the camera position where you are now on fifth avenue. we had the attorney nor eisen onhe air, former ethics lawyer for president obama. i was so struck by his quote. i wrote it down. he said what he heard today guarantees scandal, corruption and controversy. and you heard our discussion with michael steele. is it possible that donald trump, who after all, hired a prominent attorney from the d.c. firm jones day to be his white house counsel, and can get all and any of the legal advice he pleases right now as president-elect, is it possible he is getting that bad advice that would make him lay out a business agreement that is now open to challenge and could enshroud the start of his presidency in controversy? reporter: well, i think that we re in unchartered territory because we ve never had a president who has also overseen a vast business empire. so, you heard the pushback. you heard his attorney there prebutt any critic who would say, why isn t he fully divesting himself from his business interests? in other words, leaving no shred of a doubt there could be no conflict of interest. the response to that is that he would still be, if he, in fact, divested himself, getting money in some way, shape or form. i think there s still a lot of thor questions around tt and also around the fact that his business interests are going to now go to his adult sons. and will that not present conflicts of interests in and of themselves? that s going to be a case-by-case basis, brian. absolutely, this is something that is going to be open to intense scrutiny over the next four years and in these days leading up to the inauguration. we re now going to have to drill down specifically on what his team of attorneys said today and whether or not it actually stands up to legal statute. those are some of the key questions. a lot of critics saying, well, having his kids run his businesses doesn t necessarily get rid of the conflicts of interests. it just compounds some of the really tough questions. you heard him at the end, though, ending on that very striking note, pointing to the pack of manila folders next to him saying, this underscores just how complicated my business empire is. i m hoping my sons do a good job of running this. if not, they re fired. reminding everyone at the heart of this, he is, in fact, a businessman. kristen, welker, thank you for that assessment outside trump tower. for those who did not see the event, on just the subject of conflicts potential conflicts of interests, here is part of what donald trump had to say on that front. i have a no-conflict situation because i m president, which is i didn t know about that until about three months ago, but it s a nice thing to have. i have a no-conflict of interest provision as president. it was many, many years old. this is for presidents because they don t want presidents understand, they don t want presidents getting tangled up in minutia. they want a president to run the country. i can actually run my business and run government at the same time. we actually have a lawyer standing by to talk to us on this front. greta vis watching this with us. what do you make of that? it s very complicated because he has many business arrangements. we all knew when he was elected he s a businessman. that s not a disqualifier to be president. he just has to be 35 years of age. it s going to be difficult. sometimes it s going to be thorny and get a lot of criticism, but if he has transparency of it and let the american people know and if he follows the law to the letter of the law and he has lawyers carefully monitoring this, that s okay. but even if he does everything perfectly fine and does everything to the letter of the law, you can expect, this is washington, he will be criticized by his political opponents. make no mistake about it, this is complicated, but i think everybody has to be practical in the sense that he can t just sell all his assets and move into 1600 pennsylvania avenue. what is when you hear the ethics lawyer for the obama administration say to us this quote i ve been repeating that this guarantees scandal, corruption and controversy. what about the advice donald trump is getting potentially opening the door to an early time in his administration just enshrouded in all of this? what you said is ethics ethics adviser for the obama administration, that s the first key that this has highly risk of being political. highly risk of being political. anybody who walks in that white house has the potential for scandal. it may not be business. it can be a whole lot of other things. that seems to be one of the most popular industries here in washingtwatc washington, d.c., is scandal. there s potential for it, of course there is. one thing my attention is on is not something he does during the four years in the immediate scandal but is there a risk he makes any decision now with an eye on the fifth year or the ninth year when he ll be back out as a citizen and making business decisions, is there any any decision he makes right now will in any way influence something down the road? but, you know, he was elected president. i think the fair thing to do is cut him a break on the issue of this. he s got lawyers. assuming those lawyers are decent and honorable. and we re going to have to sort of sort our way through this. without any question, this should be subject to very, very strict scrutiny. not just today but every step of the way. gret tashgs thanks. we ll watch your broadcast for yo coverage of the event we all witnessed today. ali velshi remains in our studios here in new york. when he says, i have this no conflict of interest thing. this is interesting. we need to sort of step back from thinking about conflict of interest as just a legal phenomenon. there are all sorts of conflicts of interests because i m makinging a decision that seems to be in the interest of one party or a large party but, in fact, i might be benefitting from that. his whole way of perceiving this is odd. there are people who will say, if you have the ability to profit, as greta says, later on, or if your sons have the ability to profit from something, that is a conflict and some of that is perceived. the idea we re standing and listening to sheri dillon, his lawyer from morgan lewis, his lawyer for a long time, by the way, having her explain that it s not a conflict doesn t actually make it not a conflict. i take exception to something greta said, while i welcome her to the family, he can sell his businesses. it may be hard. it may be unwieldy. it may be difficult. but this is the presidency of the united states. this isn t a side job. when he continues to say that, there s some sense he s not necessarily fully accepting the gravity of what he ran very hard to do and got. this is difficult and it s complicated, to be president of the united states. if he wanted to sell his things, he could. if he wanted to put them in a blind trust, he could. he s not doing that and that s the problem. i keep hearing this defense that we knew what we were getting into, in effect. we knew we were hiring donald trump to be president of the united states i agree with that. i agree the people in many cases the people he often refers to in those industrial states who referred to him, don t care a bit about this discussion we re talking about right now. if he brings jobs back, if he raises wages, if he gets a result that gets us better economic growth, this becomes an ivory tower conversation. let s do a thinghey teach you in tv school and that is reference the video that is airing on the screen right now. that solitary man is the ceo of exxonmobil, rex tillerson, for the purposes of our conversations today, he has been nominated as the next secretary of state to the united states. imagine his timing, his hearing starts today. overnight last night americans and that includes members of the house and senate, got to kind of chew on a potentially explosive story, knocked down vigorously today by donald trump, about information that russia may possess on donald trump that would be greatly compromising to him on a personal, financial and political basis. we thought we would bring a guest of high esteem to our studio to help us talk about the relationship between the united states and russia, thomas pickering, former u.s. ambassador to russia under president clinton, 1993 to 1996. among his jobs, on behalf of this country, ambassador, welcome. thank you. good to see you again. it s nice to be back. what s the i always call it the viewer s guide. what do we need to know about russia, about our relationship to russia and what, if anything, set you off today listening to donald trump on this? e need to know t relationship is troubled, that there is- at this point there is some afemoral relationship between donald trump and vladimir putin. that might change things. it s not impossible. vladimir putin may be in the mood to change, having not progressed very far with the projects he s now undertaken, but we don t know. the evidence on the compromise, the piece of information that is, in fact, out there that seems to be collected by the russians with the potential of having influence on donald trump is not yet verified. the u.s. intelligence community has been careful about that. and, indeed, we haven t seen after perhaps a couple of months of trying in washington that any of the press has come up with anything that says this is the real mccoy. so, trump is saying what he normally would say under these circumstances. it s fake news. we don t know how this is going to play out. we do know two things that are very important. one, russia is a very important country for us that possesses a nuclear power that could destroy us and we them and the two of us the globe. it s not a fooling around matter. the second and most important thing i would say is, the intelligence community should not be a punching bag. the intelligence community is a serious bunch of very able people. i ve known many of them over the years and have great respect for them. and they do a very tough job very well. and when 16 or 17 agencies agree, and this was on the prior material, then it s time to pay attention to them and not time to turn them into a virtual reality tv show. but get on with governance, which is something i ve been saying. governance is a very tricky problem. ali velshi just said it s hard stuff, and i couldn t agree with him more. this is the toughest job in the world. and it isn t, in my view, a job you can turn into a virtual reality tv show as much as we might want to have that entertainment coming our way. mr. ambassador, i m not crazy to put it another way. we re sitting here looking at guy who s been nominated for secretary of state, in part, because of his relationship with russia and putin. and i m not crazy in that we have heard people suddenly bending over backwards to normalize the idea of vladimir putin and russia. we need to be careful. i have the greatest respect for rex tillerson, and i have watched him in action, not close up, but from time to time. but i also think it s very important that as we deal with russia, we have to know we re not going to agree on everything all the time, but we also have to know there are some things we can come to agreement with them on as we did the soviet union, which is to stabilize the international situation so that people with, put it this way, trigger fingers are very careful about what they do on both sides of that divide. and i lived through the cuban missile crisis as a young diplomat. and i was worried. a lot of us were very worried. we don t want to be back in that kind of unstable, uncertain situation where individuals on both sides n one way or another, are threatening. it is not a useful way to proceed and not something that i think we want or the russians want. so, it is time to reach out. president-elect trump do that? i don tow. there is an openingere a i would be silly to denigratet. but at the same time, i think it requires smarts, stability and sensitivity. and those demands are very real and very important for the next president of the united states. ambassador, thank you. thank you, brian. thank you very much. to our viewers, we are going to be heading back into the hearing room after an update from hans nichols over at the pentagon. hans, on the story in chief, this story we first talked to you about yesterday that has been knocking around, depending on your online source. it s been published in great detail or glancing detail. we ve only published as much as our news division is able to confirm. how can you update us on that? well, the important thing about this is being appended to the news briefing trump got. trump was clear he never got a verbal briefing on this. but for those inside the trump organization, the transition team, and there are a lot of them that want to fundamentally reform the intelligence agency, they just got a big argument, brian. for people like general michael flynn, who will be leading the national security counsel, the nsa, for all those that want to fundamentally rethink the way the united states gathers intelligence, they have an argument. they have an argument the cia, fbi, dni, everyone was potentially a little sloppy in getting this report. i was trying to speak to a number of people today. the plans to sort of revise and revamp the intelligence structure haven t been baked in, but there are those within the trump organization, in that transition, that really want to rethink the way it s done. brian, that s why that hearing tomorrow with mike, let s see if he gives any idea on how to rethink the intelligence agency. they have an argument now. now the large standing army in washington as they have just picked a giant fight with a branch of government absolutely essential to the presidency. hans nichols at the pentagon, thanks to our viewers. we are now going to go into the hearing room, listen to the confirmation hearing. this is rex tillerson, nominated to be this nation s next secretary of state. on the other side, at the break, katy tur will be here. can it be effective. looking at your other options as well. i m not dismisses ive of the sanctions you characterized the obama administration as weakness but you re saying you wouldn t necessarily do anything different? in that instance, i would have done something different. military force? show force at the border of the country that already had territy taken from them. american military? no, ukrainian military force supported by the u.s. providing them with capable defensive weapons. if that s not seen across the border, then it s not a show of force. switching gears now. this value of american value of transparency, correct? yes. and accountability in government, correct? yes. i have a concern, it s not a great one, you can allay it right now, that as leader of a private company, you made it clear in many ways that you were first and foremost accountable to shareholders, employees and customers, but as secretary of state, you re accountable to the american public, and would be expected to keep the media, the public, constantly informed of general activities. and i just know that when my staff did a rough calculation of past secretaries, interactions with the press, clinton had over 3,200, kerry had about 3,000. when you were at exxonmobil, it was a far, far smaller number, but i imagine as secretary of state your going you believe in the importance of transparency, of engaging with the public, of answering to the questions that often come from the media? yes. and i indicated in my opening statement that that s part of earning the public trust, also to engage with this committee. that s a way to communicate with the public as well. you will bring press corps with you as you travel oversaes and you will commit to having those regular interactions with the press? if confirmed, i will look into what would be appropriate to take. i have not i have not gotten that far in my thinking. okay. and so you haven t thought through about issues of accountability and transparency? i have thought through issues of accountability and transparency. your question was the size of my press corps, i think. no, it was not. my question was access of the media and public to the work of the secretary of state. we want to ensure at all times, if confirmed, the secretary of state and the state department is fully transparent with the public. that s part of my cment of being truthful and bei you know, holding ourselves accountable as well as others accountable. okay. switching gears. i ll get back to this in the next round of questioning. in fact, i m going to yield back because it s a new line of questioning. that s all i have. okay. i will just as a matter of sharing some information, the supplying of defense lethal defensive support to ukraine at a time when we were only sending used night vision goggles and mres was something that was strongly supported in a bipartisan way on this committee under chairman menendez s leadership. i just want to say that for the record. i didn t view the response to be necessarily in any way outside the norms of what this committee overwhelmingly supported at that time. i m just saying that for information. and i m more than glad to talk more fully about that. so, we re going to start the second round. they re going to be seven-minute rounds. and we re going to go in the same order we began. if senator rich comes in, i would like to be able to give him time since he was around earlier and now has a conflict. with that, i ll send i ll turn to senator cardin again. well, once again, thank you, mr. chairman. first, mr. chairman, in response to senator menendez s questions about lobbying in regards to the iran sanctions act, just to make the record complete, i m going to ask consent to put into the record the lobbying disclosure form from exxonmobil corporation that indicates the approximately $3.4 million was spent on behalf of lobbying the iran sanctions act. i ll put that into the record. without objection. i wanted to be cirman. putting some information into the record. i understand you became chairman while i was talking, but you always have to watch out. without objection. thank you. second thing, mr. tillerson, i want to just underscore a point. we talk about in the office, this has come up several times, and that is, you keep referring to the fact of your concern in regards to the ukrainian sanctions that were imposed against russia for their actions in ukraine that you were concerned that american companies could be at a disadvantage because of europe being treated differently, the grandfather clause, et cetera. and then when we talk about leadership, and it was very true on iran. senator menendez took the leadership on this, that but for the u.s. leadership, we wouldn t have gotten other countries to act. so, if we take the position we re going to the lowest common denominator, we re not going to get anything really done. you talk about being tough and taking tough position, it requires leadership and requires us to be willing to go the extra amount. one last point on this. i agree with senator corker. we ve never had any administration believe that congress should take away their discretion. that is absolutely fact. whether democrat or republican administration, they would rather do away with congress. we understand that. we get it. but you, i assume, understand the advantage we have in america with the separation of branches of government. and it could be helpful to you as our if you re confirmed as our principal negotiator, to have clear directions from congress that you must impose sanctions, must impose nctions, unless you get real progress towards the issues in which those sanctions will be imposed. take advantage of the independent branch of government. work with us. so you can have those strong tools to help america s interests. i m going to take most of my time on this round to go over an issue senator cork and i have been working through. i m not going to spend a lot of time going over some of the issues on tax returns. we ll save that for a different time for our committee because it really involves an internal debate here more so than our nominee. but as a result, i had sent to you 20 questions to answer that are related to the tax issues because we didn t have the tax returns. and before the close of business for asking questions, i will be proposing questions to you related to your tax issues in order to better understand areas i think we need to have information on. we are concerned about the fact i m concerned. i think members of the committee are concerned. that you will have some private interests. you re going to continue to operate a farm. you re going to have a charitable foundation. you have a real estate firm. a real estate partnership. we need to know a little bit more how that operates from the person who s going to be secretary of state. you have trusts thatre being set up and how those payments are paid out over time, we need to have a better understanding of how that operates during your term if you re confirmed as secretary of state. so, that type of information is useful to us. i m still trying to figure out exactly how this trust you re taking restricted stock, and if confirmed, selling it to become or putting cash in rather than restricted stock, but then you are able to withdraw the funds from the trust in the same schedule as, i believe, as the restricted stock would have become actionable. but as a result of that, you re also putting contingencies on your receipts so you can defer the taxes, as i understand, defer taxes for a significant period of time. these are issues that i think we have to have more transparency on, because they re big dollars. $180 million, if i understand, of restricted stock. the tax consequences are about $70 million. these are not types of tools that can be used by average americans. i think we need to know more about those types of issues. we also have concern about making sure that all of your employees have been properly documented and taxes paid. that s a standard issue that s been raised now in confirmation hearings. senator corker and i may not think it s relevant to the final not relevant. determinant to final confirmation but it s relevant for us to have that information before we make answers. i m going to ask you to answer these questions for the record. i hope we ll be able to get the cooperation in a timely way so that the committee can have this information before we re called upon to act on your nomination. you can respond. i m happy to try to answer the areas of concern you have. i indicated that in the original questionnaire, that it s my objective to address concerns you have. you know, i am i m also, though, mindful of privacy issues afforded to every american and privacy issues afforded under individual tax returns. i ll do my best to answer questions you have. but i hope you ll also respect the privacy of myself and my family. in the long-standing privacy of individuals tax returns. i can assure you that that will absolutely be observed, as i had explained to senator corker, much of this information is not even reviewed by members. it s strictly by people who can tell us whether we have a problem or not. i absolutely respect what you re saying. and my full intentions are to fully maintain your legitimate right to privacy. i look forward to following up on that. i thank you for your reply. thank you. just for the edification of the committee, i think it s true that over the last four years, i have worked as the lead republican on foreign relations to ensure that we move candidates out as quickly as possible nominees. i think at every nominations meeting we ve had, that s been stated. and what i ve shared with the ranking member is, we have a tradition here that we are following. this has not been a committee that has asked for tax returns. it s asked for a disclosure form. and just because we were so overwhelmingly helpful with the democratic president s nominees doesn t mean that we want to be changing the standards or unhelpful, if you will, under a republican nominee. so i just have tried to keep things exactly the same. exactly the same. disclosures are exactly the same. and, you know, as far as getting into i ve told senator cardin that if there is a substantial issue we need to look at that would affect senator tillerson excuse me. you don t want to be demoted to that. to nominee tillerson s role, then i m more than glad to look much deeper into it. and if we need to have somebody from the outside do so. but to get into silly got-ya question, not that you ve done that, that s just not what we ve done in this committee. and i hope we will not turn this process into one that turns qualified people away from wanting to serve. again, if there s some substantive issue that we need to pursue and we need to get into some private setting and have someone come in from an accounting firm that really matters as it relates to his ability to not have conflicts as a secretary of state or something like that, i m willing to look at it, as i know he is. asking questions that are not in any way determinant in any way is belittling the committee and a huge change in the protocol and the respect with which we ve dealt with nominees and their privacy. can i just but i thank you for working with me. would you just yield for one moment? i thank you for that. and i can assure you, the disagreement on supplying tax returns has nothing to do with mr. tillerson. it s a discussion we re having. it has not at all delayed any of our operations. i fully expect that i will continue to use whatever means i can to change our committee practices so that we do have our nominees, as many other contest in the senate require, to file tax returns. that s not unique. small business, i ve been told by senator shaheen, requires. second point i would make very quickly, the second point, the ability of the members to ask questions for the record and ask questions of the nominee has pretty well been respected. and i would hope that right would not be diminished. that we have the ability to ask questions of the witnesses in regards to areas that we think are important. no one in any way is trying to diminish that. i know you and i have agreed on a series of questions that will come from the committee itself and mr. tillerson, as i understand it, is going to answer those. i would think absolutely the aarrangement he has with exxon is something that should be fully vetted and everyone here understands that that is going to happen and he s going to make that all forth and has, actually. i would just say, again, we may wish to change our standards four years from now. our most recent secretary of state, as i understand it, as a couple was worth over $1 billion. had all kinds of far-ranging investments. and as a committee, we never tried to force a tax return issue. they filled out the disclosures and we as a committee asked them questions. same thing happened with secretary clinton. so, all i m trying to do is not in any way change the way that we operate because of the outcome of an election. and continue to be that island of bipartisanship as we continue to operate regardless of who wins an election. i m in no way trying to infer that you re attempting to do that. i m just telling you what i m attempting to do. i m attempting to do. i ll turn to senator rubio. mr. tillerson, when we met on monday night, thank you for coming by, i provided you a copy of a bill which was provided in the last congress which i anticipate will be filed in the new congress by senator flake and leahy a remove the travel ban by americans to cuba. if you were confirmed and that bill were to pass congress, can you commit you would advise the president to veto that bill? senator, as to the current status of travel to cuba, that is going to be under discussion with the president-elect. i think he s been fairly clear on his intent that he is going to ask all agencies essentially on day one to do a complete review of recent executive orders and the change of the status of travel to cuba as well as business activities in cuba. so, it would be my expectation that the president would not immediately approve that bill until after that review had occurred because that would be part of a broader view of our posture toward cuba. if he doesn t act on the bill, it would become law without his signature. my question is at this time, you cannot commit to supporting a veto of that bill should it pass? i would support a veto because i don t think we want to change the current status of things until we ve completed that review. that was the question i wanted to get to. if a bill were to pass congress that would remove the u.s. embargo against cuba, and there hasn t been democratic changes on the island of cuba, would you advise the president to veto a bill that lifted the embargo on cuba? if confirmed, yes, i would. can you also commit that you would advise the president to reverse many if not all of the obama administration s cuba regulations andxetive orders regarding cuba thatere recently submitted in 2014? as indicated, i expect a comprehensive review of all those executive orders. from the state department perspective, i would want to examine carefully the cry tia under which cuba was delisted from the list of terrorist nationses for terrorism. and whether or not that delisting was appropriate and whether or not the circumstances which led to that delisting still exist. you do not currently have an opinion at this time as to whether cuba belongs on the list of terror sponsors? i would need to examine all the criteria that were used to make the current determination and then utilizing the expertise of those in the state department, again, informed by the interagency process to look at those criteria that would put cuba back on that list. as i m sure you re aware, there is a dispute between china and japan over the control of the senekaku island change. if china tried to take over island chain with military force, would you have the united states respond with military force? we have long-standing ally commitments with japan and south korea in the area. and i think we would respond in accordance with those accords, which are not a nato-type agreement. but certainly, we have made commitments to japan in terms of a guarantee of their defense. i want to in your opening remarks you referred to human rights. i m glad that you did. and i wanted to walk you through a few examples quickly. i shared with you when we met on monday, a political prisoner database maintained by china contains more than 1400 active records of individuals known or believed to be in detention. do you believe china is one of the world s worst human rights violators? china has serious human rights violations relative to categorizing it against other nations i would have to have more information. but they certainly have serious human rights violations. well, since president rodrigo duterte, the los angeles times reports 500 people have been killed. is-n your view s this the way to conduct an anti-drug campaign? senator, the u.s. and people of the philippines have a long-standing friendship. i think it s important we keep that in perspective in engaging with the government of the philippines, that that long-standing friendship, and they have been an ally and we need to ensure they stay an ally. that s correct, mr mr. tillerson. but my question is about the 6200 people killed in these alleged drug raids. do you believe that that is an appropriate way to conduct that operation or do you believe that it is something that s conducive to human rights violations we should be concerned about and condemning? senator, if confirmed, again, it s an area i would want to understand in greater detail in terms of the facts on the ground. i m not disputing anything you re saying because i know you have access to information that i do not have. this is from the los angeles times. well, again, i m not going to rely on solely what i read in the newspapers. i will go to the facts on the ground. i m sure there s good, credible information available through our various government agencies. one of the sources for that number in the campaign and its nature is president duterte himself who openly brags about the people being shot and killed on the streets who he has determined are drug dealers without any trial. so, if, in fact, he continues to brag about it, would that be reliable information you would look at and say, okay, it s happening? i mean, what s happening in the philippines is not an intelligence issue. it s openly rerted, multiple press accounts, the president-elect has spoken about it, and, quite frankly, the president of the philippines has admitted to it and, in fact, brags about it. my question is, in your opinion, is that an appropriate way for him to act and should it influence our relationship with the philippines? if the facts are, in fact, supportive of those numbers and those actions, then i don t think any of us would accept that as a proper way to deal with offenders, no matter how agr egregious the offenders may be. i m sure your aware of lack of rights of women in saudi arabia. in your view, is saudi arabia a human rights violator? saudi arabia does not share the same values as america. i think the question is, what is the pace of progress that should be expected for the kingdom of saudi arabia to advance advance rights to women and others in the country. as it currently stands, do you consider what they do to be human rights violations? i would need more information to make a true determination of that. you re not familiar with the state of affairs for people in saudi arabia, what life is like for women? they can t drive. they have people jailed and lashed. you are familiar with all of that. yes, senator, i m familiar with all of that. so what more information would you need? in terms of when you designate someone or label meone, que is, is that the most effective way to have progress continue to be made in saudi arabia or any other country. so, my interest is the same as yours. our interests are not different, senator. there seems to be some misunderstanding that somehow i see the world through a different lens, and i do not. i share all the same values that you share and want the same things for people the world over in terms of freedoms, but i m also clear-eyed and realistic about dealing in cultures these are centuries long cultural differences. we can t effect them to change. in the many years i ve been traveling to the kingdom, while the pace is slow, slower than any of us wish, there is a change under way in the kingdom of saudi arabia. how and if they ever arrive to the same value system we have, i can t predict that. but what i do believe is, it is moving in the direction that we want it to move. what i wouldn t want to do is to take some kind of a precipitous action that suddenly causes the leadership in the kingdom of saudi arabia to have to interrupt that. i d like for them to continue to make that progress. thank you. senator menendez. thank you, mr. chairman. mr. tillerson, i know that you re new to this and i know the chairman was trying to help you out on the question of lobbingy on sanctions. you stated on the record that to your knowledge neither you nor exxon ever lobbied against sanctions. that you were merely seeking information. i have four different lobbying reports totaling millions of dollars as required bit lobbying disclosure act that lists exxonmobil s lobbying activities on four specific pieces of legislation authorizing sanctions, including the comprehensive iran sanctions accountability and divestment act of 2010, russian aggression act, ukraine freedom act of 2014 and stanford ukraine act. i know you re new to this, but it s pretty clear. my understanding is when you employ lobbyists who submit lobbying forms under the law, you are taking a position. is that not correct? if the form clearly indicates whether we were i don t know i haven t seen the form you re holding in your hand. does it indicate we were lobbying for the sanctions or against the sanctions? i know you weren t lobbying for the sanctions. but well, if the form it says specifically here, specific lobbying issues. russian aggression provisions, energy. you weren t lobbying for sanctions on energy, were you? i think that s a description of the subject that was discussed. and i haven t seen the form, senator, so i don t well, you don t let me just edify for the future. you don t need a lobbying disclosure form to simply seek information and clarification about a bill. that s not lobbying. lobbying specifically is to promote a view, a position, whatnot. so, that s i ask to have these included in the objection. no objection. so, there was lobbying here. i know senator booker asked you about usa engagement. you said you don t know about. but exxonmobil is listed onusa engage, whose whole purpose i m sure while exxon is a huge corporation, like the state department is a big entity, you may not know every minutia what s going on but you have to generally understand you re giving direction whether to lobby on certain positions or not, you want to take certain positions or not. like you told me earlier in your world conversation with the president-elect you didn t discuss russia, it s a little difficult to think you actually don t know that exxon was lobbying on these issues of sanctions. my understanding is those reports are required whether you re lobbying for something or lobbying against something. you re still required to report you have lobbying activity you believe you were paying money to lobby for sanctions? i don t know. can you imagine being in a position where you would have your company and shareholders to lobby for positions that would affect your bottom line? i don t know, senator. it would depend on the circumstance. let me turn to mexico, a little different part of the world than we have been discussing. some of us care about the western hem sphere. the president-elect stated any wall spent on the wall will be paid by mexico. vk mexico pay for it s be a hall mark chant at trump rallies. now he says the american people will pay for it and have mexico reimburse us. the last time a country tried to wall itself completely from a neighbor was in berlin in 1961. and that wall was constructed by communist east germany. former mexican president last week tweeted that somehow we are conducting foreign policy by tweets these days, that trump may ask whoever he wants but still neither myself nor mexico are going to pay for his racist monument. another promise he can t keep. close quotes. as you re well aware, the president-elect has repeatedly referred to mexican citizens who have come to the united states as saying they re sending, quote, people that have lots of problems and they re bringing those problems with us. they re bringing drugs, they re bringing crimes, they re rapists and some, some i assume are good people. mr. tillerson, do you think mexicans are criminals, drug dealers and rapists? i would never characterize an entire population of people with any single term at all. do you think that those comments help our relationship with mexico, our third largest trading partner, a trading partner that represents $583 billion in trades of goods and services, including our second largest goods export market? mexico is a long-standing neighbor and friend of this country. and so that doesn t help your job as secretary of state, does it, if you are to achieve nomination? well, we re going to engage with mexico because of their importance to us in this h hemisphere and we have many common issues of concern senator rubio took care of some things i cared about. when you and i met, you indicated on cuba you needed more time which is fair to come to your conclusion about your opinion on u.s./cuba policy and the obama administration changes. i want to share with you the latest report by it s not me, okay, by amnesty international. that noted, quote, despite increasingly open diplomatic relations, severe restrictions on freedoms of expression, association and movement continue. thousands of cases of harassment of government critics and arbitrary arrests and detentions were reported. thousands, that s their quote. the cuban commission for human rights and national reconciliation, which works within cuba documented more than 8,600 politically motivated detentions of goth opponents and activists during the year. there s a group of women who march every sunday to church with glad oel yeahs, called the women in white, they get beaten savagely because of their peaceful protest. i hope you would agree with me that if our engagement is still going to allow that to take place, then something s wrong with our engagement. something fell short. and i have a specific question on cuba. do you think that as a condition of establishing diplomatic relations with cuba, we at a minimum should have insisted on the return of fugitives, cop killers, like new jersey cop killer joe chezimart and other fugitives being harbored by the castro regime? i do, senator. thank you. now, would you finally commit yourself if you are confirmed as secretary of state to work with us and others, mexico that have cop killers and other fugitives in cuba, to make that conditioning of any future transactions as it relates to cuba? senator, if confirmed, i look forward to working with you most specifically, as well as senator rubio and others, who have have a great depth of knowledge on cuba to ensure that we are not relaxing the pressure on cuba to reform its oppressive regime. certainly as i indicated in response to a question earlier and in my opening remarks, the cuban leadership got a lot out of the most recent deal. we need to make no mistake about where the flows of funds are going inside cuba and the cuban people got almost nothing. as i indicated, the president-elect has been very clear on his intent to direct a bottoms-up review of the entire relationship with cuba. thank you. i appreciate the great senator from new jersey acknowledging that when our nominee has left an impression, that i don t think he is wishing to leave. i give him an opportunity to change that. thank you. with that, senator mr. chairman, thank you. he has a ten-minute segment
committed to replacing obamacare the same day it is repealed? cnn newsroom starts now. hello again. thank you for joining me. i m fredricka whitfield. we have distressing new video from inside that ft. lauderdale airport. showing when the gunman opens fire in the baggage area. this video is difficult to watch. it is crucial in understanding the context of this shooting. this is a freeze frame, now, of what appears to be security camera footage, obtained by tmz. the man in the blue shirt is believed to be accused gunman, esteban santiago. we will play the video one time throughout this hour. it is silent. and it is security footage. and it is disturbing. pay attention to the left side of your screen, where the man in the blue shirt enters the frame. he is due in court. he is facing serious charges. all of them eligible for the death penalty, fred. boris sanchez. at ft. lauderdale airport. i want to bring in matthew haras and paul shmek. good to see you. your reaction to the video? i think to understand it, we have to two back to november 1st, 2013, when a gunman walked into l.a.x. terminal three, opened fire, proceeded through the checkpoint and got into the sterile area of the airport, which is not a good situation, because there s so much access at that point. law enforcement took some time to get on the scene. what we can see from the video, is baggage claim area is typically a very safe area. people come and go. people in that area, are typically happy. they just got off a safe flight. family and friends are there to welcome them. there are also shuttle buses and things of that nature in this area. it s difficult because of that 2013 incident, law enforcement, from the tsa, and public reports, was really putting pressure on law enforcement to put their resources at the checkpoint. and i think it s a perfect example where a vulnerability was identified that police can t be everywhere. matthew, how do you evaluate what we ve seen. we deal with the reality of the condition. he shows a disregard. there s no regard for humanity. clearly, mental health. but nonetheless, cold and calculating. but it s confusing, too, because we don t see what precedes the imagery we saw. just the first couple of frames blending in. just seem leg to be like everybody else. paul, what do you see in terms of the vulnerabilities, that may be magnified as a result of this? the tsa has 20 layers of aviation security. it s from canines to protection. there s two layers that come to mind when i review that cctv or surveillance footage. he was on a death march, really. and what we have to look at, there s two layers that come to mind when i think about this. there s the intelligence layer, what did we know before he came to the airport? and the no-fly list, much more in depth where you would prevent him from flying. intelligence has a ceiling on what they can do in terms of stopping individuals like that from flying. and i m sure as the days roll out, we ll hear more about what was known before he embarked on an airport. earlier, i spoke with the broward county sheriff, this is how he sees precautions to be tragedy often times to promulgate change. hopefully we see hard-core change here. something to change. thank you, gentlemen. appreciate it. we re also learning more about esteban santiago s past. assault charges involving a girlfriend, hearing voices in his head. and asking for help. dan simon traveled to santiagoss town in anchorage to learn more about his past. reporter: his troubles began after serving time in iraq, relatives say. esteban santiago spent ten months in the war-torn country. his brother said the changes in him were apparent. translator: they had him hospitalized for four days. and then, they let him go. how are you going to let someone leave a psychological center after four days when he s saying he s hearing voices. that the cia is telling him to to shoot someone. reporter: despite the interaction with santiago, he was not placed on a no-fly list. there had been concerns raised why he was not placed on a no-fly list. i want to be clear, during our initial investigation, we found no ties to terrorism. he broke no laws when he came into our office, making disjointed comments about mind control. reporter: why would someone who is disturbed get his gun back? the u.s. attorney in alaska says there s no legal basis to prevent him from having it. a judge would have needed to declare him mentally defective to deny him his second amendment rights. we re learning new details about the victims in the ft. lauderdale airport. most were on vacation. michael oehme of council bluffs, iowa, was about to go on a cruise with his wife. e was killed when the shots rang out in the area. his wife was shot in the shoulder and is expected to recover. he leaves behind one adulter. olga woltering, was also about to go on the cruise with her husband, ralph. according to wxia. the couple is from marietta, georgia, and had planned the trip to celebrate her husband s 90th birthday. he was not injured in the shooting. the wolterings were married for 64 years. and terry andres was a shipyard employ, in ft. lauderdale on vacation with his wife. the couple was celebrating andres upcoming 63rd birthday, a friend tells cnn. an trace and his wife had been married for 40 years. he leaves behind two daughters. three other people injured in the shooting are in critical condition. we ll be right back. this is your daughter. and she just got this. ooh boy. but, you ve got hum. so you can set this. and if she drives like this, you can tell her to drive more like this. because you ll get this. you can even set boundaries for so if she should be here, but instead goes here, here, or here. you ll know. so don t worry, mom. because you put this, in here. hum by verizon. the technology designed to make your car smarter, safer and more connected. put some smarts in your car. sign up for free today. isjust wanna see ifa again? 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in addition to i should say, police have made nine arrests, as part of the investigation. five are family members of the attacker, as you said, was shot and killed at the scene. i ll walk you back through what happened. about 1:30 p.m. local time. right along the walkway a particular walkway, not only for security forces and soldiers, but for pedestrians and tourists because it as a beautiful view of old city of jerusalem. a number of soldiers had gotten off of the bus as a tour, and that s when the attack happened. the truck driver drove straight for a group of soldiers getting off of the bus. and then, it seems he reverses his truck and drives back over some of the soldiers there. the horrible outcome is that four were killed. three women and one man. and a number of others were injured, all in their 20s. benjamin netanyahu who visited the scene and said, what they know fromty a tacker, us was from a nearby neighborhood, that the attacker was a supporter of isis. we hear from the police spokes pen pern saying there was no isis cells in jerusalem. but it points to a lone wolf attack. and that is what security forces are trying to pinpoint and figure out how to prevent from now on. how do you stop this attack from happening again? it s a struggle for forces here and in yurm, in particular. that s the focus as they try to figure out, was there advance notice? could they have prevented this one to better prevent the next one? are authorities revealing anything more about why they believe he was a supporter of isis? what s the impetus for that statement? reporter: little information about that. it was a statement from netanyahu when he said he was a supporter of isis. it surprised us because you don t hear about isis in israel, jerusalem or the west bank. as police pointed out, isis doesn t have a foothold here. it s not something you hear about. israel has quietly cracked down on isis supporters. people spreading propaganda or trying to fight for isis in syria. but it s not a major terrorist organization here. they don t have a foothold. and it s not something you hear about very often. and that s why we need to keep in mind the police spokesperson, when he said this is not new rye sis terrorist cell. there are none of those. and it s critical as they try to prevent the next from happening. turning a truck into a weapon is something we saw in berlin and niece, as well. devastating effect in all three incidents. coming up, the gop vows to repeal obamacare. president barack obama says if they have a better alternative, he would support it. can republicans come up with a cheaper and more effective plan? 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obamacare sends money to insurers and states. and this trickles down to hospitals and other providers. that trickles down to hospital workers and vendors and other people. there was a recent study that said, if key provisions of obamacare were repealed, 3 million could lose jobs. state and local governments can lose billions in taxes. health care is an important engine in our country. what you re underscoring, it s not just the people on the plan. but a lot of people who would who are either directly or indirectly involved in the plan? yeah. a lot of people think that obama care is only for people on the exchanges or people who are getting coverage through medicate expansion. a lot of people don t realize it has many tentacles. it made some revisions to medicare. used to have the doughnut hole, where seniors had to pay for prescriptions. seniors will pay less for prescriptions. now, everyone can get prescription everyone can get contraceptives for free and mammograms on the employer plan. people on the job have benefits, if they have cancer or hit by a car, insurance is not going to set a limit as much it will pay for the care. it s quite wide ranging. tami, thank you very much. next, a top aide for donald trump speaks out about russia s hacking of the u.s. election and its impact on the vote. plus, the red carpet is rolled out and ready for the golden globe awards. a live report from hollywood coming up. your insurance company [vo] quickbooks introduces he teaches lessons to stanley. and that s kind of it right now. but rodney knew just what to do.he got quickbooks. it organizes all his accounts, so he knows where he stands in an instant. ahhh.that s a profit. which gave him the idea to spend a little cash on some brilliant marketing! ha, clever. wow, look at all these new students! way to grow, rodney! know where you stand instantly. visit quickbooks.com. election. she spoke to jake tapper this morning and would not criticize vladimir putin. even after president-elect trump received a briefing from top intelligence officials, outlining the case for russian hacking. as he been persuaded that they carried out cyber campaign against hillary clinton and what is he prepared to do about it? he makes clear that russia, china and others, have attempted to attack businesses and organizations and others over time. he mentions the democratic national committee. that s why we re having this conversation. i don t want any of your viewers to be misled thinking that the kremlin and the republican party that they had the kremlin was dealing with any of the hackers and bringing that information back to moscow and somehow that anybody who allegedly attempted to influence our elections actually did. if you read the full report, they make very clear. mr. clapper in his testimony made clear on thursday, under oath, that any attempt, any aspiration to influence our elections failed. they were not successful in doing that. it is a very important point. we are talking about this because we had embarrassing leaks from the dnc e-mails. there were no fireworks because there was no firewall. rnc, there was an attempted hack on the rnc. but they had the sufficient firewalls in place. cnn s own reporting showed that the fbi asked the dnc to have access to its information, to its server and to the information. and the dnc refused to turn that over, according to cnn s report. this highlights the fractious relationship between russia and the u.s. president-elect trump vows to change that. jill dougherty explains what that could mean. reporter: donald trump has been tweeting about improving the relationship between the united states and russia. and together, solving a lot of the big challenges, the big problems that the world encounters. that, of course, is music to vladimir putin s ears because he has been saying all along, he wants the u.s. and russia to work together on things like fighting terrorism. but when you get down to the specifics, that s where the rubber hits the road. and it becomes more difficult. after all, previous u.s. presidents had said much the same thing. here s one example. the iranian nuclear deal. the united states and russia helped to negotiate that agreement. and both countries support it. but donald trump does not. does that put him in opposition to vladimir putin? 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not that i know of. in 2009, when president obama took office, i believe i think i m correct on this, on the same day he was sworn in, the day of his inauguration, seven of his cabinet members were sworn in. mcconnell and everyone else didn t like that. there was some moving around. the process is swift and you know, went pretty well. president-elect trump has, i believe, eight that are up for confirmation process. part of the challenge with trump s picks are that they are outside of the washington, you know, sort of set. right? so, they re outsiders. they have more complicated finances. and you know, they have more complicated entanglements, financial entanglements. but i suspect at the end of the day, this is all of these nominees are probably going to go through. mainly because they have the votes. potentially nominees have potential conflicts. that s why some on the hill have concerns. we understand that, you know, there are some nominees who are in question in terms of whether all of the paperwork has been filed. there s conflicting reports about this, by the way. john kelly, for dhs, betsy roth for the information of the ethics office to move forward on the confirmation hearings? it s a process. it s not just filling out a piece of paper and disclosing it to the senate. the idea is to have a process where people learn things about their own finances, their own conflicts of interest that they might not have known before. famously, there are nominees that discovered they had a quote/unquote nanny problem. and it was only through the vetting process they realized that somebody they had been paying to work in their home had supplied them with a fake social security number. that s what happened to bernie carrick when he was nominated for homeland security. you have a process that s supposed to, according to mitch mcconnell himself, by the way, in the past. he said, you should not schedule the hearing until the information has been given to the office of government ethics, has been delivered to the senate and that the senators have had a chance to look through it. that s what the process is supposed to be about. not simply, you know, voting for them just because it s inauguration day. if that s true, according to the senate democratic source that some of the people have not filed the proper paperwork, then, salena, you know, how unusual would it be if the democrats were to do this or there were some movement to say, let s delay some of the hearings or confirmation for some of the candidates until after inauguration? right. well, you know, the republicans hair would catch on fire if that would happen. and it was a democratic cabinet nominee. the ethics office is saying one thing. the transition team is saying another the we ll find out on inauguration day. i do know they are really preparing a lot of these cabinet nominees for some intense, you know, grueling questions, on the hill. these are people that have never, ever had their lives peeled back in the way that they do in these senate confirmation hearings. i know they are getting prepared. but you know, we are dealing with a different kind of cabinet. and it s going to be, probably, a different kind of process. meantime, errol, there s been many delays. there was a mid-december late. and the latest date is wednesday. and it happens to be the second day of the confirmation hearings. will there be a conflict here? we ll see. you know, we re talking about five months now. this is almost clintonesque if you go back to the last real press conference. i hope it would be a true press conference or not a gaggle or swift questions followed by departure. we have to hope it is not intended as a distraction, a bait and switch, where something is thrown out to grab headlines, while the real action is on capitol hill, where the cabinet nominees are being questioned. the transition team, you know, to their credit, they ve acknowledged they re doing more work faster than they planned to because they didn t think they were going to win on november 8th. now that they are sort of the team that has to kind of put together a government, they have a backlog of questions. and every day they refuse to answer questions or to hold a press conference, i think the backlog got bigger and bigger. i hope that the reporters get a chance to throw out questions during this press conference. do a good and efficient job of getting to the heart of many, many of the conflict of interest questions and others that have been brewing for five months. and questions about conflicts within his own family. having family members working for him with the business dealings, et cetera. and then, the tax returns. donald trump promising that after elected he would reveal those. so, i m sure he will be pepper ld with a lot of questions along those lines from reporters. salena, errol, thank you very much. coming up, one of trump s national security picks facing questions over plagiarism. kay file broke this story. we have details, next. family road trip! fun! check engine. not fun! but, you ve got hum. that s like driving with this guy. all you do is press this, and in plain english, coolant , you ll know what s wrong. if you do need a mechanic, just press this. thank you for calling hum. and if you really need help, help can find you, automatically, 24/7. because you put this, in here. hum by verizon. the technology designed to make your car smarter, safer and more connected. put some smarts in your car. so we know how to cover almost alanything.ything, even mer-mutts. 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the trump transition standing by crowley, they have basically said our article is a politically motivated attack. they actually cited this body of work as part of the reason for why she was hired saying, you know, this was her manifesto for taking back america. the publisher has oddly not issued any statement or responded to any of our e mail ors phone calls requesting comment and crowley herself has not responded either. and then we have several instances of plagiarism, including melania trump s convention speech. basically we have melania, e were a lot of people that have written a lot of words, for all we know, there could be a lot of examples like reporters and people like us are going to be looking into. andrew kaczynski, thank you very much. for more on andrew s article about crowley s credibility you ll find on cnn.com. we re back in a moment. with lubriderm. absorbs in seconds. moisturizes for hours. lubriderm. every body care. a nutritious formula with no artificial flavors. made specifically for indoor cats. purina cat chow. nutrition to build better lives. why are you checking i want to see if it changed. credit scores don t change that much do they? 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