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fox news, as we saw in the dominion filings, a sandwich between these two different audiences, tucker was on the rise and was beginning to be this conductor for this course. and fox obviously was another important piece of that. so whoever controls that key relieved and has the ability to become the center of gravity. what we saw last night wasn't just a surrender for fox. it was trump picking up the baton in showing us who's going to end up through hijacking the rest of the right-wing media. but now there's an echo changer chamber of fox and trump. >> angelo carusone thank you so much. the primary for the president trump nomination is a three-way race between donald trump, rhonda santos, and nikki haley. there's a widespread view that if desantis doesn't come in second in iowa, he's cooked, he's done. today, on that note, we got a new poll, and i think the first one that shows haley second among likely caucus runners,

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try to be as fair as possible here, which is to say that across the spectrum people face nasty phone calls, death threats, swatting, marjorie taylor greene i think was a victim of this. this is just picked all despicable behavior in all parts of the spectrum. but there seems to be a difference here, which is trump's obvious encouragement of it, failure to condemn, it stoking of it. it's different then basically any political figure across the partisan or ideological divide. >> that's right. it's an important point. steve scalise was a victim of political violence. a lot of people on the right of center who have been victims of political violence. it should be condemned left right and center. but your point is right. you don't find democratic leaders expressing enthusiasm for political violence against our adversaries. my view is, our adversaries are adversaries, they're not or actually enemies. in the political context

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normal. it's what we saw last night. at least one trump was in 16 in entering his presidency, there was a back and forth. sometimes you couldn't tell who was leading who. right now fox is an organ of trump. so there is no more confusion about which direction it's being polled, who is steering the ship. it's totally now a full appendage of trump. what's scary about that is that trump is increasingly organizing power on the extremes and what would be considered the fringes. fox news will become an accelerant for normalizing all kinds of extreme ideas that even they haven't been willing to touch for a while. that dynamic you played out is only going to intensify and get worse. we saw the real first played last night. they didn't just give him the town hall. they called the program and gave it to him during prime time. simply because that's what trump wanted. >> in an interview on fox is brett baier, said why are you hearing the trump town hall

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a candidate in republican primary, to then now tag as somebody who plays the old establishment game around foreign policy and republicans, man, there is no bigger change as republican voters in the way they view foreign policy. they don't want anybody who's gonna get them into a war. they talk about this all the time. they feel like we are on the brink of getting into some kind of foreign conflict, whether it's ukraine, or israel, and they don't want somebody who would send troops anywhere and they see her is that kind of candidate. but they also see her as somebody who will compromise with democrats. that's a lot of what they need. they might compromise on immigration. she might compromise on abortion. there's just a lot of ways in which she reads as a john mccain type to them, a pre-trump politician who's part of what they talk about in the -- party, meaning people to compromise with democrats. what they like about trump's he says, we'll do it my way, the only way, they see him as a

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think it's important to defend shipping lanes, defend american service members and also i think it's important that we did this with the british, the netherlands, and a number of other countries, but we're still gathering information, as you are. >> all right, senator brian schatz, thank you very much. coming up, donald trump tries to speak in his own defense and goes basically as you would expect. the conclusion to trump's new york fraud trial, next. trump's ne york fraud trial, next york fraud trial, next >> my mental health was much better. but i struggled with uncontrollable movements called td, tardive dyskinesia. td can be caused by some mental health meds. and it's unlikely to improve without treatment. i felt like my movements were in the spotlight. #1-prescribed ingrezza is the only td treatment for adults that's always one pill, once daily. ingrezza 80 mg is proven to reduce td movements in 7 out of 10 people.

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they wanted us to run the gauntlet. trans different because he was president, he's got depopulate already, but one question would be, if haley beats him in new hampshire, trump is always at his worst when he thinks people thinks he's a loser. in that case he would be a loser. now my sense is, even though south carolina's haley's on state, it's a great state for donald trump politically. so this may be two weeks where he's a loser and then south carolina puts an end to it. but that's a little bit of vulnerability. all those races are different. i think with carry that was definitely momentum playing. but it was an open seat race on the democratic side. you didn't have a figure like trump's. it's interesting, busch got nicked in new hampshire by mccain. remember, not just narrowly. mccain sometime. but he was able to write the ship. i think that's what we're looking at here. even if haley winds new hampshire, i agree with sara.

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trump's lawyers is that he could order a murder of his political rivals using seal team six and that would be up to the legislature to determine whether it was criminal. it's just a new rubicon we have passed. i think the american public has to wake up to the fact that it's very exhausting to furrow trump and certainly if you're not a political person, exhausting to constantly here, did you hear what that guy said? my god it's crazy. american democracy is at stake. but american democracy is at stake. this is a new turn for him, where he's taking the official position that he gets to do whatever he wants. >> i want to just follow up on this since i have you here, a u.s. senator who voted in both those impeachment trials. because it seems to me your view on this is quite jermaine. which is to say, the argument is that the senate new because it was clear in the constitution, that the only way the man could be facing criminal repercussions afterwards would be to

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convicted in the senate despite the fact that trump's own lawyers and your fellow republican senators made the opposite argument. so as a u.s. senator, was that your understanding of the constitution? >> no. it never weighs. look, anybody can be found criminally liable for a crime, including the president of united states, including the vice president, and q curing a senator, you break the law, you go to jail. when you're doing an impeachment trial you're trying to measure not whether not somebody committed a statutory crime which is to say violence specific federal laws, but rather high crime and misdemeanor, basically a crime against the public and against the country. so it is a different standard, but you're right, leader mcconnell in particular voted against the impeachment. he said the proper jurisdiction for this is in the criminal justice system, and now trump's lawyers are essentially arguing the opposite, which is, i know we said the proper venue for this was not the senate, but now that we're in the criminal justice system, you gotta go back to the senate.

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give me an answer about whether your client is going to agree to the conditions that i sat, which, by the way, and special conditions. and the ordinary rules that would govern what any attorney would have to do in a closing argument. but yet to be more transparent for someone like donald trump doesn't understand unnecessarily abide by the usual rules. but he says in these email to chris heise, take it or leave it. he's really angry. you can tell he's pushed him over the edge. and yet today, after all three trump lawyers argue, heise says the president wants an opportunity to speak, your honor, he deserves that. and engoron look at him and says this could have done gone differently and on dulles asks trump will you be to the conditions? and trump start talking at a cadence and piece of never seen before, as if he knows that only given second engoron will cut him off unease just rushing through his talking points as fast as he can. >> i had to say, when i saw that sentence of what engoron

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were closing arguments in the case that could and donald trump's ability to conduct real estate business in the state of new york and could cost him hundreds of billions of dollars. so the civil fraud trial, trump has attempted to turn the entire case into a circus. he is mentoring up for argue it's arguments, railing against the, judge cited and fined for violating an order against personally attacking members of the court staff, which have led to all kinds of harassment threats. in his latest attempt to create a spectacle, trump wanted to make closing arguments in his own defense. the judge was willing to grant a request if trump would agree to certain limits including not giving a campaign speech in court. trump's lawyers rejected those conditions and in an email that change the judge. the in court tried again to ask trump could. speech judge arthur engoron replied, you promise to just comment on the facts and the law? now [laughter] will, i think i know the answer to that. trump started talking immediately without agreeing. and it went as you would expect. trump denied all wrongdoing while and gordon quietly

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