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you. and i thought, you know, how cool is that >> but then. then marie gave birth, and i wasn't cool for marie, not anymore. and certainly not adoption >> every time we started t broach the subject with her, she did get withdrawn. >> so, maybe tanya would not get baby grace maybe marie wanted it all, the baby and james, all fo herself. that's what this member of the inner circle believed. >> but i - did i hear that from marie that marie wanted james. >> did tanya strike back somehow, fight for her marriag by getting rid of marie? listen to how church members quote tanya's words. >> she's basically like, james
and how the pastor and his wif offered her a place to stay. but the questions about baby grace? said esta her relationship wit marie was always supportive bu not judgmental and when mari didn't tell her who the father was, she didn't push the subject. >> i never questioned he because will marie tell me i her own time if she wants to tell me. i've learned with my sister, i never pry. >> but that was the job of the detectives, nesli and keith to pry. hopefully to find marie. one of their first calls was o her church pastor, james flanders and his wife. impressive guy, they discovered james flanders what was he like >> very charismatic. i would say he was good at his job. >> i wonder what it would be like to listen to him preach >> you can youtube him >> yes, you can.
this was a come to jesus moment. >> this was the hardest thing i ever had to do was to confront my pastor -- >> your mentor? >> sure. >> and james admitted it. he had been sleeping with two women in the same house. and then, youth pastor jason told the detectives, in that cloistered setting, james kept talking. and told a terrible story. >> him and marie have had a physical or to caution before she went missing. and she had scratched him on his arms. >> james insisted marie was still alive the last time he saw her. >> i was in shock of everything. >> that was it. he could not continue his posturing, james would have to resign. he announced that he and tanya were leaving town. >> they were supposed to leave the following morning to say goodbye to some church members and lo and behold around 12:00 12:30, they got in that truck
she left her three month old baby in the care of her pastor, james flanders and his wife, tanya, and not her family. not the woman she looked to as a mother figure, kay barber. >> it was heartbreaking. it was heartbreaking. >> marie's ex-husband, jeff carlson, got the text, too. didn't make sense to him that she would leave without calling her seven-year-old daughter, paris. kay called jeff and said she he should file a report. >> she said, i don't know what's going on but i think something happen. and i said, yeah i agree with you. >> and then just called the okaloosa county sheriff's office to report marie missing. >> the investigator said, we're going to open a case and investigation on this, which surprised me because she's an adult. she could've just left. >> because marie was very adventurous, she liked to travel. and when the mood struck her, sometimes she just took off for a few days on some women. but some things seem to different this time. >> she would've never have left
maybe marie wanted it all, the baby and james, all for herself. that's what this member of the inner circle believed. >> but i -- did i hear that from marie, that moore marie wanted. james >> did tanya strike back somehow, fight for her marriage by getting rid of marie? >> listen to how church members quote tanya's words. >> she's basically like, james would never -- that was kind -- of >> shockers? >> i told her, you are not capable of killing. her but tanya leans over and goes, he couldn't, but i could. >> so wouldn't that lead you like a bloodhound to? tanya she would have a motive? >> she. but >> tanya, now the only mother figure in grace's life, did she know more than she was saying? did she do something? >> did someone in the church have a confession to make? coming up, a confrontation in
mood swings, they knew that she had a diagnosed mood disorder. did they tell you that she was bipolar? >> yes, that was bipolar, that she was taking medication that she was overmedication probably because of her giving birth of the child. >> but there was another prescription bottle to well >> and they also showed us a bottle that was empty, that was linked to the fact that she had taken that medication and this would use it to hurt herself. >> the day she left, james told detectives he was so worried about her state state of mind, he stayed at home. >> james said that she was acting up and he didn't -- >> he was afraid the baby would -- >> yes. >> then, late that afternoon, said pastor, james marie said she was tired, went to lie down. tanya took the baby out shopping so marie could rest. the pastor said he waited around for a bit.
think different. >> an attentive church goer might have noticed the intuition of an idea and the pastor when -- he mentioned a couple of races in the old testament that seem to approve, somehow, of a polygamy. >> he wanted to justify his relationship to everybody else, through a biblical sense. >> so he went to the old testament and pulled up those few lines that suggested polygamy? >> that's correct. >> we if it was -- one and the very practical polygamy and the home of the pastor was carefully under wraps. so did tanya worry about what might happen? >> that's what she was covering up. she had to protect james and protect their world. >> did she do something to marie to protect james? two months after marie she disappeared, the detectives got permission to look at the cell phone records of all three of them. would they prove tanya was with marie when she vanished and,
>> right. imagine the secrecy that the inner circle, that tanya told the truth, to that it's james's baby. >> but not a lot of secrets -- the detectives invited james and tanya to voluntarily come in for a chat. but only tanya showed up. and here in this little room in the sheriff's office, she let it all come out. about that night of sake and sex, when grace was conceived. >> yeah he had a little bit too. i was the only one that was. but yes, i was there. >> yes, in the room. but of course she was, said tanya. and almost casually. she revealed the heresy that, should it ever become public it should ruin. >> was marie going to move in and she would be number two. >> for a? wife or whatever you call them. >> sister wife. >> it was, in short, polygamy,
it was with the turkey thing me. >> now she's got a secret. >> yeah at that point. >> at that point? the, yes that because tanya could not just leave it there. the next time, she admitted something very, very shocking. >> and tanya said, well we did it the old-fashioned way. >> james and marie had sex which, told tanya told the ladies, was okay with her. and as months passed and marie started showing, there was a baby shower. but not for marie, this baby shower it was for tanya. she put a balloon under her shirt as a funny photo with marie. but if the story came out, it could threaten everything that she had built in the past. and as i got more, and more, and more into weird stuff. it was just that the stakes got higher?
and he came directly from marie when she went to visit jeff shortly after getting pregnant. >> i put my head on her stomach and i said, what's going on with this? and she wasn't really showing. and her story at that time was, while i'm just being assertive -- so we did a type of artificial insemination. >> well, well, well. the pastor was the sperm donor. in this new story, marie's gift was to be the pastors artificially's surrogate. but why the conflict of stories? to find, out the detectives consulted three special church ladies. tanya flanders closest confidence. >> we call them the inner circle. >> and the inner circle said, yes, tanya told them. but swore them to secrecy. but then, tanya gave up a little more. the method was really homemade. >> i remember them saying, oh