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you said, day 33 of another big effort. >> and let me ask you, sir. i'm just curious. this have been some reports about the pings and where they're looking. obviously, when you look at where the ships are positioned, one at the northern end where the australians heard the ping and one at the southern end where the chinese heard the ping, obviously those are thousand miles apart. have they given up on the chinese-reported pings? >> i think that the most recent ping through the australian vessel, the ocean shield is where the main focus is going on. in terms of the air search, we're looking in a slightly different area, because we're looking for debris on the surface. so the surface vessel search and the air search will probably be in slightly different areas. >> when you say slightly different, are you -- is that sort of where you would have expected there to be drift from where that pinger is located, or are you actually looking in a different area that would imply if the plane went down, it went
many thousands of miles where this plane could have been, that this is all relative to that narrow. but this is of course thousands of miles of shifting. will the search area move again? matthew chance is in perth tonight. matthew, what's the very latest as you're there? they're getting ready to go out and search. and i know the planes are leaving from the base behind where you are now. >> yeah, they're going to start leaving within the next few minutes apparently, erin. the very latest is we've had a media release from the australian-led search effort, which is a multinational effort, of course. and they have given us a few details. they're saying that -- excuse me, the search area has been narrowed just slightly over the course of the past 24 hours by a thousand square miles. it's now down to 29,000 square miles, which of course is still a vast area. we've been told that the focus of the efforts at the moment under the surface of the indian ocean are those two areas that you mentioned where the ocean shield, the australian vessel is using equipment borrowed from the u.s. navy to try and recapture the pings that they recorded a few days ago.
haystack, but at that stage we didn't even know which haystack. i think we've got a much clearer picture around the areas we need to concentrate on. and those will be the areas that will be associated with both the search on the surface and the debris search by aircraft today. >> all right. thank you very much, commander. we appreciate your taking the time. commander mcevoy. and richard quest, as you just saw is with me. here is the question. as you just raised the point, there has been no evidence at all. obviously, there is all kinds of satellite, but there has been no physical evidence. this plane may not be there. >> the only evidence are the pings. the satellite data is, you know, corroborative if you like. that's circumstantial evidence, i beg your pardon. you have the satellite data which is circumstantial. and now you've got the pings which is corroborative, but they can't get it again. >> right. >> now just bring up that map again of the search. >> the 20 some odd. i tried to count them quickly,
we can already hear. >> right, we're actually listening to the pings pick s l ones picked up by the actual plane. >> this is what a ping sounds like. lately we're hearing about high frequency pings with ever-increasing frequency. >> the pings detected pinger locaters. >> no new ping detected. >> until we got flooded with talk of acoustic events, a ping was something in a subset on the hunt for red october. >> it makes a ticking sound like a metronome. >> just with a moist paper towel listen to it activate right away. and it is not the sound of marine life unless they happen to be wearing watches. >> it is not a whale with a
and unless people were alive to scramble out with life rafts, there might be few clues it was ever there. and only a small target far beneath the surface. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> so richard, here is the thing. most any scenario ends up with pieces and debris somewhere, except for that kind of perfect landing on the surface, which would be incredibly difficult to pull off here. >> and even that you can argue as the plane went down, the pressure would crush and something -- >> right. at some point when you go a few miles under, something would collapse. >> this is the is the mobile troubling aspect of the whole area in one sense there is nothing to hang your hat on. they've got the pings. they've got the satellite, but there is no physical evidence. but they're going have to keep going regardless. and there are still those people who do believe it's merely a question of when the debris is found, not if. >> all right. but if it's a question of when,
dancing again i would like to get a lesson because i'm a terrible dancer. not actually thinking she would follow through. but we had a dance lesson, and i'm a terrible dancer, and adrienne was so sweet and loving and jim skeltonle with me. >> i can't wait to see it. i know it is going to be incredible for you. and it was difficult, so many people get inspired by the courage that it took that you did. >> thank you. >> we're looking forward to seeing -- >> i like -- >> i can't wait to see that part. all right, thank you to both of you. and be sure to watch the survivor diaries, tonight at 10:00 eastern, on cnn. and out front next, the pings, are they from flight 370 or not? this is a pretty incredible analysis and it is next. honestly? i wanted a smartphone that shoots great video.
desperate. the underwater search has been continuing around the clock. so far, though, nothing. today, australia's ocean shield, the ship that heard pings over the weekend is at the northern end of the defined search area. and at the south, the chinese ship haixun 01 which also believes it heard pings over the weekend, which by definition would be unrelated because they're hundreds of miles apart. the british ship hms echo is joining the search. it's been two days since searchers on the ocean shield believe began at the north came from the plane's black boxes. they have not been able to reacquire the pings. they have heard nothing, and they have found nothing. and time is fading fast. we're on day 33 now of the search. black boxes would have to be incredibly resilient to be working at a very audible level at this point. we've seen the search area shift, expand so many times. look at this map. just look at this map. now, you might say it's a miracle given that it could have been within thousand -- many,