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memo to withdraw from afghanistan. so he had reason to worry that trump in his state of mind and what he had done before might try to do something else. >> telling his advisers, other military, there's no end runs here. >> correct. >> no end runs, follow the procedures in place, i'm part of it. >> correct. >> you have new details, jaime. there's been reporting on the back and forth between donald trump and mike pence prior to january 6, and how donald trump told mike pence, incorrectly, unconstitutionally, that mike pence basically could refuse the electoral college results. it is now a new conversation. >> so, in this conversation, first donald trump says in the oval office to mike pence that if he doesn't do it -- and by the way, this is the night of january 5th. it's a remarkable scene. there are maga supporters right outside the white house and they can hear them. trump points to them and says, wouldn't it be cool, wouldn't you want to do it for them?
cnn special correspondent is joining us now. she has details of what was going on. jaime, the joint chiefs chairman, general millie, he was very concerned. he wanted to safe guard the nation's nuclear arsenal. he wanted to safe guard the military from what he feared would be trump's actions. >> correct. these were precautions that the chairman of the joint chiefs would take. to set the stage, it is january 8th. it is two days after the assault on the capital. he is worried. woodward and costa write that millie believe that trump was unstable, unpredictable and millie believed he was in serious mental decline. nancy pelosi calls him, we know, on january 8th, the speaker of the house. she calls him and she is also worried about the new clear weapons. so in the book, woodward and costa have an exclusive transcript of that phone call.
dangerous, he was making sure every precaution was in place. >> the book, and you have a copy of it right there, jaime, the book also details a rather heated conversation that trump had with the then defense secretary mark esper. >> right. this book is called "peril." woodward's last book was called "rage." i would tell you this could be called "rage 2.0." there are so many temper tantrums where he is yelling and screaming at top officials and cabinet members. this is one where right after those protests in lafayette park you may remember then defense secretary mark esper comes out and he says makes a -- has a press conference and says there shouldn't be any -- there is no reason for an insurrection act. and then he meets with trump. and according to woodward and costa, trump goes -- just starts
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