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but i think there is a feeling that people should at least have an opinion on the most important trade agreement ever entered into by the united states of america. i happen to think tpp is the continuation of disastrous trade policies which have cost us millions of jobs. i'm against it. secretary should have a position on it. i think that the keystone pipeline is excavating and transporting some of the dirtest fuel on earth. i think if we're serious about addressing climate change the secretary should have an opinion on that as well. >> well if she is for doing something about climate change what difference does it make who the president is now or what decision's on his desk? i guess my question is is he loyalty to the climate and the fuch of the future of the country or the president of the united states who hasn't made a decision.
term. i suspect he will. so for her to take -- step outside her role as the candidate and reveal what she recommended to president obama in this process i don't think is right. so i don't think she has a lot of choice about the keystone pipeline. >> how can you be an advocate for doing something about climate change and even think about allowing tar sands oil to come to market governor? >> well the truth about the keystone pipeline is, what it really is an effort to keep oil in the ground which is a position that i think a position a lot of environmentalists take. burning oil creates a lot of carbon in the atmosphere. the fact that it's tar sands oil is not -- the case is not quite as compelling. people are focusing on that. but the real agenda is stopping burning fossil fuels at all. by own view of the coasten pipeline is that it probably has some environmental consequences
it is tar sands oil. the issue here is ed if we are serious about combatting climate change, which the scientists tell us is the major environmental crisis facing our planet, we have got to do everything we can to prevent the excavation and transportation of the some of the dirtiest fossil fuel on earth. i think this keystone pipeline idea is a terrible idea. i'm against it and frankly i think secretary clentinton should be speaking out on the issue. >> she says that because she was secretary of state it is not appropriate for her to comment on these two major issues. what is your reaction to that? is that political cover or is there merit to that answer as you see it? >> no i don't think there is merit to that answer. she is a candidate for president of the united states. climate change is a great issue all of us have got to deal with and i think the people are entitled to no e her opinion on
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