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president urged all of his supporters on twitter to go ahead and tune in to an interview eddie gallagher was going to do on fox news on a saturday morning. and it's at that point that eddie gallagher almost attacked his own chain of command and expressed, publicly, what he wanted. and that is he wanted to retire with his trident. retire as a s.e.a.l. and ultimately, that's what happened. but there was some collateral damage, at least in the navy leadership, the secretary of the navy ended up resigning over this whole matter. and we'll see whether or not there is any longer term effects within the chain of command either in the pentagon or in the various s.e.a.l. teams. geoff. >> hans, help us understand how president trump got involved in this gallagher case in the first place. >> well, you know, a fox news like personality was a big champion of the case. he had talked to the president about it. mentioned it. and he's also been an advocate of this. he's a iraq war veteran himself. so, you know, look. the president has been taken a
confident that we will then go to the american people as the ultimate juror. or jury. you're right. i don't think there's a chance there's going to be conviction in the senate because that would require 20, at least, republicans to actually act on their consciences. i think that's highly unlikely given what they've said and their demeanor and behavior so far. but the american people will get their say in november 2020. >> congressman jerry connolly, thank you. >> ahead, the president called him one of america's ultimate fighters but one platoon member calls him, quote, freaking evil. the disturbing new interviews about retired navy s.e.a.l. eddie gallagher. . eddie gallagher. i looove travel.
probably a 12-year-old kid. the guy got crazier and crazier. >> i could tell he was perfectly okay with killing anybody. >> i see eddie laying on the ground with a knife. >> we can't let this continue. >> all right. in a statement through his lawyer to "the times," gallagher accused his fellow s.e.a.l.s. of making up, quote, blatant lies to hide what he says was cowardly conduct on deployment. this afternoon, msnbc spoke to the author of "the times" report who said the evidence he reviewed from the s.e.a.l.s. does not match that description. >> when i looked at the evidence, we're talking about hundreds and hundreds of private text messages these s.e.a.l.s. never thought anyone would see. i didn't see any of that. if they were concocting a story, we didn't see any evidence of it. >> the white house has not commented on the report by "the new york times." but in the past, president trump had taken an interest in gallagher's case. earlier this year, president trump personally ordered the pentagon not to strip gallagher of his rank and s.e.a.l. status.
and he has previously praised gallagher and other military personnel accused of misconduct on the campaign trail. joining me now, my nbc news colleague, hans nichols, traveling with the president in florida. still with me here ons set is anne gearan. so, hans, we knew about these allegations but what does the new video and text messages, what does this all reveal? >> well, it brings fresh light and really shows you the immediacy and the rawness of what was alleged to have happened. bas basically, these are the raw files the ncis naval investigators had. now, it formed the brunt of the prosecution's case, which the prosecution brought. and then as you mentioned, edward gallagher was acquitted of most of the charges. he was found guilty on one -- one minor charge. so this is basically a raw prosecution feed that we're seeing. and it is shocking. it is -- it is stunning. we know that president as you mentioned has taken an interest in this case. it was maybe four weeks ago the
tremfya®. uncover clearer skin that can last. janssen can help you explore cost support options. a graphic new report from "the new york times" today reveals disturbing information about eddie gallagher, the navy s.e.a.l. who was accused of war crimes in the killing of a captive isis fighter. gallagher was found not guilty of murder and attempted murder earlier this year. we want to warn you what you are about to see is disturbing. the weekly television series from "the new york times" obtained this helmet cam footage from gallagher's platoon showing the isis fighter that gallagher was accused of murdering. "the times" also obtained navy investigator interviews in which they accuse him of unstable conduct on the battlefield. including targeting people who were unarmed. >> i saw eddie take a shot at
the -- in this case, you know, invading power in iraq to be accused of doing things that we accuse other armies of -- of doing to us. and, you know, the whole idea that the united states is better than that. and that you're putting soldiers and sailors, airmens, and marines at risk when americans act this way. you know, why would another power not do the same thing to you? and then the separate issue here is trump getting involved personally overruling what had already taken place in -- in the military justice system? and applying his -- his own justice to it. and then celebrating the fact. >> yeah. i mean, there are all kinds of damning, unintended consequences here. hey, hans, there have been some reporting that president trump wanted to campaign with eddie gallagher. the president, as we know, treats the military as one of his constituencies.
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it's unclear. we do know eddie gallagher was here just across the street this time last week for turning points usa, which is a conservative advocacy group trying to cultivate the next generation of conservative leaders. so eddie gallagher clearly indicating he wants to get involved in the political space somehow. whether or not he will campaign with the president or the president will bring him around, potentially. we don't have any firm reporting on that. but we know that the president likes the audiences. i mean, what was his last official act before he flew down here? he signed the defense authorization act at joint base andrews. and that, in some ways, was subdued. the president didn't really give a campaign-style speech but he has done that in the past in front of men and women in uniform. geoff. >> hans nichols, great to see you, my friend. thank you. anne, shermichael, juanita, stay with us. the holidays are over. 2020 candidates are back on the trail and so are we coming up next. up next