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The beginning, going in, getting osama bin laden, getting al qaeda, yes, check, we did that. but to stay and have a continuous occupation of this country to conduct a centralized government which they never had in their entire history, as the president pointed out, and all for what? for what purpose? to try to use military american power to shape the prospects of the middle east. this is what the president is taking issue with. in washington you see a determined cya operation going on in the washington establishment, a cover your butt operation, where all of those who have been responsible for the wars in the past 20 years are now on tv saying these wars were just and noble, that if we just listened to them, everything would work out okay, that we could keep 2,000 troops in afghanistan indefinitely, and oh, by the way, we re being stabbed in the back by joe biden ....