. . . megyn: getting a lot of feedback to the debate we had with other working moms. weigh in now. follow me at megyn kelly. up next. shep: thank you. good evening from rome. news begins anew, tensions in the korean peninsula, north korea said they scrapped the old agreement that ended the korean war but it really didn t as they conduct new war games. we ll separate the rhetoric from the real and. blader runner wants his passport back. and speaking out a big way in airport security. he says most of his former co-workers know that the tsa job is a joke and that it is only a matter of time until terrorists attack them. all ahead unless breaking news changes everything on studio b . it is 3:00 on the east coast and 8:00 p.m. at rome where we re hours away from the papal conclave. secretive selection process that will decide on the leader of the one billion catholics. from all over the globe they are set to celebrate mass. from there they will head over to the sistine chapel and decide for a replacement for the retiring pope benedict xvi. no newspapers and no internet, no nothing they won t be able to tweet updates on the status until the puff of white smoke appears in the sky and then we ll have a new pope. we have team fox coverage this afternoon. let s begin with amy kellogg live outside the basilica tonight. reporter: the vatican today gave us a taste of the splendor and ceremony that will accompany this conclave. you know, shep, it s not just the cardinals who will be shut down from texting and tweeting. the vatican says if we have any trouble at all to disseven with whether the smoke is white or black they will not be sending any clarification. we ll have to figure it out ourselves. the cardinals had their final done degree gas station before the conclave begins. they spoke about the vatican bank, an issue that has vexed the vatican as international institutions demand more transparency but housekeeping matters will be put aside and all about the die vine guidance in the process of choosing a new pope. they will make it to the sistine chapel and will be accompanied by cantors who will sing the litany of saints and invocation to the holy spirit. each will take an oath in latin after which the order extra ommus that two additional officiating cardinals and then the voting begins. the pontiff cal investments has come here and he will be in the room of tears and of course accept. it s caused room of tears and then on to the balcony to give the first blessing to the waiting world. shep, the vatican even says we shouldn t expect all this to happen tomorrow. we think we will see smoke tomorrow but it will probably be black. that said, of course, anything is possible once the conclave begins. shep: amy kellogg, thank you so much. the founder and editor in chief of a website and junior fellow with the catholic association and knows the ins and outs. great to be with you. what is to expect tomorrow? we re starting out with mass. this is what the faith is all about and symbolizes what they are doing is submitting themselves to the will of the holy spirit. this they believe they are operating under the will and guidance of the holy spirit. shep: if we cut to the chase, they have been politicing in there, haven t they. come on. 115 of them that many of them haven t met. shep: to say there is no politicking going on, is it true? they are absolutely barred from politicking but they are discussing what are the problems facing the church and what are the real issues are facing these men as they consider who is going to be leading the church for the next however long. shep: it seems as least if you read all the local press, front runners have emerged and not at least the cardinal from milan? people are talking about cardinal dolan and o malley so it s absolutely impossible to predict but whoever is going to be chosen is going to be embraced by the 1.2 billion catholics around the world. shep: and where do they begin? there are a lot of challenges the church is facing. pope benedict did an excellent job of tacking the most difficult charges including the sex abuse challenge. i think we can be assured that they will continue to going forward. shep: finally, the thing i ve been reading the most is rome versus the reformers. it s the headline everywhere with exhaustive how one side wants to move forward and romans want to keep things how they have been. do you have a sense how that is shaping up? if there are tensions, we ll never know. this is big part of why these things are kept secret so it doesn t turn into a political event. it s a spiritual event. shep: thank you, ashley. the standoff with nuclear arms, north korea has taken no breaks, it s taken a dangerous turn. state media reports that the they have cancelled the 60 year armistice that ended the korean war. apparently there are a lot of factors in play here. north korea has repeatedly threatened all out war against the united states specifically and others. even vowed to louwlg an attack on united states specifically washington, d.c., not it can do that. and they also did another test of nuclear weapons. we have come up here new video of anti-korean protest in south korea. 3,000 u.s. troops joined 10,000 from south korea for joint military drills. it s part of the field exercises which is not unusual and to prepare for different scenarios in any possible conflict with the north. the our chief correspondent, jonathan hunt is live this afternoon. it s coming from all sides? most threaten, not surprisingly coming from the leadership in north korea. as the u.s. gets underway with the large exercises with the long time ally south korea, officials are making clear they will stand by south korea and stand by japan which is regularly threatened by north korea. in the words of tomorrow donalon the u.s. will not tolerate a nuclear armed north korea. in remarks prepared to give to the asia society the united states refuses to acknowledge bad north korea behavior. they won t accept empty promises or yielding to threats to get the assistance it needs and the respect it claims it wants. north korea will have to change course. south korea s new president also weighing in today, south korea is most in the direct line of fire if north korea does anything. the south korean president has put the military there on high alert and says if there was any nuclear attack, the north korean regime would, quote, disappear from the face of the earth, shep. shep: do we know what is behind this sudden burst of north korean anger? not definitively because nobody could get in the mind of kim jong un but number one, the military exercises with the south korean military and also on top of that the new and pretty punishing economic measures adopted by the united nations security council here last week which really speak to put a lot of pressure on north korea and stop them pursuing any sort of nuclear program. so it s in response to those two things. what worries a lot of experts this may be a case of kim jong un still trying to prove himself new leader. we know he can be irrational so its dangerous time. shep: back home in new york, another big day on wall street. markets in positive territory yet again. gerri willis is in next. plus emergency crews rush into rescue three people after the ground opens up beneath them. the latest sinkhole scare. coming up on this edition from studio b live from rome as is we await the papal conclave. 00. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much. i appreciate it. i ll be right back. they didn t take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money? 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post 2014 force, that decision has not been made. it s still under consideration. i have made my recommendation? which is? that recommendation is for 13,600 u.s. forces. reporter: i asked jay carney about that specific number and he would not commit whether the president is going to back general mattis recommendation in moving after these unfortunate comments. will the u.s. commit to that kind of force or pull out together as we saw in iraq. there are critics of the administration if we don t leave some forces behind, any security gains that have been made will be completely lost. shep: you wonder how many people will be lost and left behind. robert pelton returned from a five week trip with united states special forces unit. robert knows karzai s bodyguards and author of a book the world s most dangerous places. i don t know what to do. we ve been making these predictions. everybody has been making them on your friend hamid karzai. what do you do? first you have to realize there are two sets of negotiations going on with the taliban. the u.s. has gone around karzai and set up an office from qatar. karzai is trying to set up a deal with pakistan to give him more influence with the taliban. that is why he spoke out. the suicide bombings in kabul are done by a group that is not part of the conversations. so the group has been running into kabul for about three years. shep: you pay a lot of attention to this stuff. if you were giving advice to anybody on the matter, john mccain staying how many will stay behind, would it help for them to be there at all? first of all you have to scrape off the long tail support system we built. we have thousands and thousands of troops that don t need to be there but we have a core group of special operations that are using extraordinary intelligence and lots of assets to go after al-qaeda, taliban perpetrators. those people need to stay because they literally pour into the country as soon as the americans pull out of a region and hand it over to the afghans it gets infested by fundamental units. so those people need to stay there. on the other hand karzai is not going to be around 2014. he has a maximum term limit. so we should hedge our bets until then. shep: one of the questions all along our goal has been to train the afghan forces to take care of themselves. are we anywhere near that? no. i was with those forces in combat. i can tell you the commandos do a good job, afghan forces do good and afghan army and afghan police give it up. it s not going to work. shep: robert, thanks as always. now to the olympic blade runner, oscar pistorius, he is fighting to get his pass portal back. his lawyers said he should be allowed to leave south africa. i don t know if you have been keeping up but headlines he may be suicidal. new maps redefining who lives in a good zone and could force thousands of homeowners to pay big buck foz are flood insurance insurance those homeowners will most likely never need. that is coming up on the top of the news live tonight from rome on studio b. what s next? 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that is one of the reasons he want wants to get back to the house where the shooting happened so he can pay for the up coming trial. you have to remember he lost those very lucrative deals with nike and sold off investments like his racehorses. his family does not deny his legal bills are massive but they are saying, look, he is not suicidal. he is very strong releasing a statement, quoting here, we are acutely aware of the fact this is only the beginning of a long road to prove that as we believe oscar never intended to harm reeva steenkamp and we realize the law must run the course and we respect the process. they understand it s expensive process. next hearing is set for early june. this case likely won t go to trial until sometime at the end of the year. shep: trace, thanks very much. a fox urgent now. you know the ban on sodas and other drinks in new york city? bang, a judge just tossed it that was set to take affect tomorrow banning sales. it s been a hallmark of the new york city mayor s health campaign which has targeted transfat and salt. i just got word from what the judge said. let s bring the lawyers. arthur and mercedes. i got word from the judge. this is state supreme court justice in manhattan who has just ruled that the new regulation is arbitrary and capricious preeshs. what say you? let s say there are two different kinds of judges in new york. one type is selected and appointed by the mayor. take a guess, shep. this was not one selected by the mayor. shep: i m guessing it wasn t that. he was elected by the people of new york county. he said it s too arbitrary. look at the smoking ban. there is no smoking in a restaurant, amen. no smoking, also smoking when i smoke it affects other people not just me. soda it s only affecting me. here the rules were you can buy the drinks in the big supermarket but you can t by them in a movie theater. it s going to cost the customers more and make the guys that are selling this stuff lose money. judge is like, it s too all over the place. what is next? shep: everybody in new york has changed the way serving things. changed prices and men guidelines. mercedes this is ready to go. our company cafeteria, wendy s is preparing for it? shame on the judge for playing politics over people. the mayor s heart was in the right place. it s protecting all of us in making poor choices. in you want 32 ounces you will have to buy a couple glasses of soda. shep: it s stupid. i could get a 50 ounce diet coke. blue sugar is worse than the white sugar. but you are in great shape. you make right choices. that is why obesity is an all time high. all you have to do is walk around and see. i think the mayor would have been much more successful if he limited it to schools, where juveniles are where they don t have the choices or the education to make the right choices. but here to say everybody in new york city excuse me? shep: it s not over. it s not over. shep: bloomberg doesn t hear from a judge and say no. he has the research and say this is a health concern. lots of people are affected by this. they need to control their diet. they need to be healthier. that is why bloomberg can can.. shep: new construction requirement in federal flood maps. have you heard about this? now force something of the victims of sandy making tough choices. some residents in the northeast must now decide whether to spend thousands of dollars raising their homes above the flood level provisions or face new insurance premiums. rick is live in new jersey. call the mississippi gulf coast and tell me what happened after katrina. this is what happens after storms like this. god afternoon, well to the south s world. reporter: some people, closer you live to the water the more you will have to pay in insurance premiums. folks, via case home, they made the tough choices. house standing this morning, if they fixed it up, their insurance would have gone through the roof. if they raised it on stilts. this is what happened. they tore the place home. and they will bring a new home up on pylons. we were hear with the homeowner while she watched her place being flattened but she is keeping things in perspective. we re not the worst here. there are so many people that had their primary home and can t live in them and living out of hotels. this is sad for me, but i know we re not the worst off. there is a lot of other people that are worse off than we are. reporter: they are dipping into their 401-k to pay for the new house. shep: it s possible they won t get any insurance at all what happened on the mississippi coast f it was the water that took the house away, you would get nothing and salesmen then you would have to raise your house up? people are facing difficult choices. we met another family, they live down in pine beach new jersey. house that was built by her grandfather back in the 1940s they got four feet of water. they had no flood insurance because they weren t in flood shown. they got $30,000 in emergency funds and they spent it. now new maps put their house in a flood zone and they may have to start all over again. smart thing for us to do would have been to wait and not spend any money on the house until we realize how high up it has to go because it s wasting money because if the house can t be raised you have to tear it down. reporter: all these maps haven t been finished yet so a lot of people still don t foe know if they should spend their insurance money if it will be waste of time down the road. shep: experts have been telling us for years the security functions we have set up at the airlifts are basically worth less. people have wondered about this for the entire time. now we re hearing the same thing some of thousands standing around. one of the tsa agents right in the middle of it. security at the airports, this is blockbuster and it s just ahead on studio b as we report from rome. hey. they re coming. yeah. british. later. sorry. ok.four words. scarecrow in the wind. a baboon. monkey? 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[applause] eight. thank you so much. i have always been a fan of your bookstore even before i moved here. it is a daughter. of always been interested in codger shall topics anything not to discuss in polite society or lower their voices. reproductive rights, abortion fell along those lines. i grew up in the 80s and 90s in the liberal touted family but those are the years where abortion was under siege and literally in kansas and in the 90s so hearing will links the people would go to, i was curious why abortion was such a difficult topic because growing up were i did women had the right to do what they felt was best. but in 2008 i began to work at the national abortion federation for women who had questions and, how much it would cost somewhere to get the procedure done. i thought i knew a lot before i worked there. in 2008 after losing college and had a number of friends and had chosen that for one reason or another or lived in areas that were politically diverse. i was wrong. i learned every day how little i knew about reproductive rights. i would come home from work every day ranting and raving how far women had to travel, but they had to do to raise money in the most heartbreaking personally the women who would call and talk about the situation and then say you re the first person i have told. i cannot tell anybody that i no. , the dow heartbreaking they could not tell the people closest to them and that said so much out it is stigmatized in the links that women have to go to to get a legal self service. nearly 2,009 the year times style section ran an article about the providers saying clinic directors who were starting to approach retirement age in no longer working with the approach eyes pro-choice movement. to have a lot of conversation where i worked after hearing the conversation i realized i am surrounded by the next generation of activists those who want to go to law school to work with reproductive rights and open their clinic. said the future of this movement and so i started writing this book i did a number of interviews, could extractors but the focus was on 1973 or later to grow up to take this right for granted he still want to go into this field to take for granted. , did a lot of research with aspects of reproductive rights and their importance. i learned a lot from the process but also so given ways to examine male behavior. glided in interview was one of the last two abortion providers in the u.s., and the subject of tickets in protest also a documentary. he is knowledgeable and passionate and he said and to me does your doctor do abortions? when i was completely embarrassed. i had no idea. i had never thought about it even though i was doing all the everyday doing nothing but thinking about it. he said to have to ask because of doctors are not then why aren t women protesting that doctors provide the full range of health care? so the next time i said i am not pregnant and i don t know when i will be but justin case, i do you do abortions? he said note personally i don t i was taught at georgetown that is said jesuit school with their doctors in the clinic five that are trained so we could help you out. i was so relieved not that i ever planned on its meeting but nobody ever plan on meeting in abortion happens when you re not expecting it for reasons you cannot predict it s so knowing hata doctor in the clinic that i trusted was a huge issue but a lot of threats are still at the state level is bash especially in virginia. it is representative of a larger trend of targetted regulation of abortion providers only those freestanding medical clinics and seek to impose unique regulations that are almost four clinics to do their work. the same building requirements as hospitals, the number of parking spaces, or the drinking fountains, laws that have nothing to do with health or safety but that is the reason that is given for these to be put in place. another trend bands after 20 weeks i know there is an attempt to put one over last year and fortunately that was shot down an agenda home state of arizona abortions are illegal after the 20th week the rationale is the concept of fetal pain which is controversial depending on which a study that you read that examines when a fetus can feel pain. most think don t see if it happens that early or at 80 weeks but that is the rationale given to restrict the right that women need to take advantage of its their health is surrender the health of the fetus is threatened so the state by state and they don t make it illegal with certain aspects to gain illegal and that is the troubling trend to make roe v goal in name only. abetted is nice to know that can be done about the trends with other laws seeking to restrict reproductive rights. most had a refrain throughout the interview that they don t think roe will be overturned but that is settled law for the supreme court to overturn that. but the threats to reproductive rights means abortion is so difficult to access that is where they see the real threat of the state level. as they realize this as it turned to the statehouse calendar activists are fighting through traditional organizations like planned parenthood, the national abortion federation and also their own tactics conductivities, a social media, grassroots activities. man hears increasingly a sense to offer experience than you can open doors to work for planned parenthood that they don t always respond as quickly or as straightforward as needed because they are the holder into donors are allies in cannot be as nimble as earlier activists. there are blocks that serve a great purpose to make abortions more relatable in the activities more personal and the things that get away from the sound bite that the way abortion is represented in the deuce reid to read people s thoughts and have conversations about what is going on and to work but in a clinic in who you encounter to be a clinic escort that people can get the service free from harassment. going forward while the large organizations have the role of the focus on the federal level but not engaged in the communities that they serve because of their structure. the younger generation born after 73 we have the knowledge that abortion is legal but we have seen with casey, gonzales the outlaws alone will not change people s behavior. the law does not change people s mind probably nothing that samuel lido has written is enough for somebody to say i will do what they say. the way to change minds is to learn and lived experience and depth of the to go deeper into conversation to get beyond assumptions and stereotypes. i did a radio interview with the post very libertarian of progress avast what about the people they say they use that for birth control? i think anyone who says that demonstrates how little they know about abortion or birth control but the fact these are common assumptions that people do think this people to do not flat out disapprove of the right to choose busy easy assumption made in our culture through having intimate deeper conversations about why abortion is a necessary. even if your man and have never been pregnant but why it is necessary as a bright that we should respect and protect. the best social media can help achieve this. been individuals don t consider themselves activist or to get engaged can do. one of the most important things that i as a resident of the district of people that can vote and elect their representative to make a difference because that matters who is representing you at the state house is just as important as the house and senate and roy have the ability to say you are my elected representative you are doing everything except what we elected you to do. , subside there are representatives who do wonderful work and should be commended. floating is incredibly important. donating time or money to clinics or local access funds all these things matter and help keep some right accessible and legal. with the simplest thing to do is talk about reproductive rights and contraception in our lives and a society. because the silence surrounding abortion allows the subjects to be stigmatized decree in environment where women are more comfortable talking to a complete stranger than their loved one. roe will allow to be killed by the death of 1,000 cuts in silents allows them to be the allies in people to be harassed. silence allows all of us to take there rights for granted that benefit men and women to not appreciate them for what they really mean for our lives and society. talking about abortion is not easy especially feel now with the other person is thinking. several years ago i was on a flight from baltimore to detroit. the man next to me struck up a conversation and i wrote told him i wrote about the book i could tell by his language she was not pro-choice he was not anti-choice the use the term pro-life and ask the birth control question i was a little taken aback but i was glad to talk to him. i don t flatter myself i changed his mind i think i could present things that he had not thought about or that i had not thought about or ask a question i could not answer. it is valuable to have a conversation to have a greater understanding where we even if you don t believe in abortion, maybe he at least won t try to restrict other people to make the choices they feel our best. on the flip side of his important to talk to those to our choice neutral. to within know so little about accessing services that day to enlightened them to have conversations about the reality of the abortion you can see how importuned it is we take the right now for granted that work for it and make it safer i m sorry, enshrined. my best friend representative in the same town as i did. she would not think twice but intel is started to talk her ear off she had no idea how much it cost of paul long women have to wait and she is one of the people i would think about when the people of was writing to because it doesn t matter if you are okay with the right to choose but not enough but to help protect the right for other people. his conversations are important to protect the rights not just for ourselves but our daughters and sons and grandchildren am so maybe in 40 years to live in a society that can proclaim there s nothing wrong being pro-choice or trusting women are having an abortion. thank you. [applause] are there questions? ken therapy is a thing doesn t like north dakota or mississippi whose latest tactics for from ed others are following the example to require the doctor has admitting privileges at the hospital and of course, they won t give them the privilege was this something that could be taken to court because they make tough federal law null and void so i am interested in knowing. that is a good question both of those are disturbing examples of the clinic in mississippi i a believe has the state of execution but could close anytime. north dakota it is not that far but they are getting there. the center for reproductive rights is mounting the legal challenge at the state level to keep the clinic open and i think it is the anti-choice tactic to bring it before the supreme court so even if mississippi goes one way it is appealed which is good news for the clinic because if not if it is tied up in the courts cannot be enforced but with the justices that receded what is the ruling but what individuals can do, one of the best things is to be aware. the center for reproductive rights as the draw the line campaign. people talk about on nine petitions and letter-writing campaigns but it is important they need to go against what people want and those who live in maryland or virginia but pay attention to your legislature because i am sure these are strategies if proven successful will be copied from the country so prevention could be the best approach. you raise a question but how far do people have to travel? i know and north dakota there was one clinic that may be close now but a doctor comes every so often and in texas it is very hard believe the north dakota clinic is still open, i believe it also serves south dakota so the one clinic for both states. there may be private physicians and don t advertise it but for those women were the providers are few and far between it is an unusual to drive 10 hours one way. when you consider most states there are also waiting periods say you drug to the drive for china s. the first trimester abortion generally runs about 350 and $500 many will still cover that although not everybody does that but after the 12th week the price goes up it is very safe but it is a more involved procedure. one of the women that i interviewed had an abortion then at 302nd weeks in had to fly from the east coast of colorado because only a few clinics could see her because of fetal anomaly is. cost $17,000. two quick comments. man with the clinic escort the question i did is they are surprised they need anybody to do that anymore. they think it is over and nothing goes on any more. of one of the most important discussions you can have is people don t understand what pro-choice means. they will go through how they are personally against it for themselves but then and maybe somebody else and then i said that as a pro-choice means that is a good discussion. and to that point may be others who are not pro-choice use the term pro-life because equating those to does not make sense a. love you are for life is life and choice is joyce the language used and talking about reproductive rights is important. if you travel around the country and meet with state legislators do find women are much more supportive in men are opposing war you cannot make a generalization at all? i don t think so. negative equal numbers of men in favor of reproductive rights as women who are anti-choice. it is more about the personal experience. a lot of older providers are men. many people of very dedicated but i did not find it older female providers. for those to be in favor of reproductive rights. moi this is a perfect opportunity to educate us in did take us through the talking points and the key points to make these arguments? a group is waiting for that and receptive. what i have found in bornu doing interviews is to let someone talk. i gave him enough affirmation he wanted to know why i was interested in the first place and a working disorganization and they are important but if you let somebody else to direct a conversation he was more nervous than i was. and he asked a lot of questions and made a lot of comments i could not add on to. he was curious about the counseling peace that every woman will meet with the doctor or staff to discuss what to expect and i said i think that is great you have a half-hour to get questions and he said only a half-hour? that seems so short. i can see if you are confused but i said i have had six operations note doctor severs sat down with me for half an hour to say here the risks and benefits here is what you feel afterwards or call for help. no one. to draw the analogy between what people consider common depositions don t talk helped him to see any medical procedure you should know the risks and benefits but to say they must sit 24 hours we don t do that with anything else. so that helped and another difficult conversation i had was with my mother-in-law who is very catholic and i m not. she also asked me the question about abortion and birth control. it led to a very interesting discussion and one thing i kept in mind is i really do want to have these conversations and they are valuable and being patient, not being defensive and meet people for they are not where i think they should be can make a huge difference. as you find access becomes more restricted we fight the battle all the time are you seeing a resurgence of networks like the chain collective that taught other women how to provide safe abortions? the same collective was a group of activists in chicago, primarily female operating between 67 and 71 they were in underground network to help provide providers then they learned how to provide the care and became the providers. i cannot say anecdotally lee was seriously talk about here are the herbs and the skills they need if roe is overturned to get us together to go to state to state which would be a nightmare but activists are definitely thinking about that but nothing i have heard of formally. although i do have three children and five grandchildren the thought of having any three aborted in retrospect would be impossible to live with. have you deal with the morality? like you ll have a tooth extracted. you know, how many since enacted. 50 million a believe. 55 million and you re not worried there s not enough access? the life of the mother and rape are two issues but don t use support counseling of the women there are people who want to adopt. you seem to not except what this is like. the population of 55 million is the country i came from. it seems you are just detached. a do support counseling and the fact clinics make sure that women are confident and comfortable. i support social programs that provide education, contraception, and for families to of the best opportunities. with morality i think i should not enforce mine on others or vice versa. i respect other people s opinions it is important everyone has the right to do what is best for themselves in what is best for their life and family. pakistan to you d have a hard time if your child did not exist. i have a child myself and our society i could decide when to have been a child was best for me in my husband to give the best she deserves but to say just because someone is pregnant automatically means it makes sense for them to have a child and it is something they have to do, i think that is the oversimplification. i come from an over privileged background and when i was a teenager we all knew that with any of my friends got pregnant and needed an abortion we could make that happen and could come up with the many in some way to make it happen. so with the class difference that s even in my 20s which was the start of some of the backlash knowing that we could fly wherever was necessary was the fallback option. as i have gotten older i do realize we were a privileged class. and not formulating my question well but how does that sit in here because the women who have the hardest time driving the 10 hours each way twice coming up with $300 the with those of the women who cannot taken evening to come out and listen to an author and what can redo there of there they and write checks? that s an interesting question. even when abortion was legal people with the means to fly to hawaii or japan or england with they could access it safely. look at the royal socio-economic splays and reproductive rights and health care is no correlation. one of the attorneys said looking at the harris decision that he will not see that against any other class except low-income. one thing to help with that class of women is what you are asking. for drawing that out that it has delineate delineated. it is an important issue that role is not addressed as vigorously as it could be that economics do matter so that they can t afford this is the important aspect does a dance your question? and other pro-choice movement has been accused of being too white, educated, middle-clas s, but doesn t that feed into a broader health care choices access to health care, maybe i take you away and from the focus of reproductive rights for says overall health and access that may be lacking. there has been a lot of work on the subject of women who live here unloading, and don t have access to the most reliable forms the contraceptions you have higher and planned pregnancy rates and other things not going along with safer is controls the to have more health clinics or affordable contraception like the iud some of that is something there are large a lot of organizations that does a lot of work in the communities to integrate the specific needs in terms of access and affordability. with regard to mortality and morbidity weird divorce is illegal is 50 times higher than where abortion is legal. has that issue been raised with health care providers? not directly because in the u.s. it is not a concern. but the provision does have a good safety record and as the journal tells but when it was a legal through 73 a lot of the providers i spoke with who are practicing would tell stories of seeing women brought in in the winter and unsafe providers or we try to use self abort it could have horrible complications or infections is so necessary for those who suffered. that is the fear now that as it is harder excess more women will turn to a safe providers and also to self of boarding. there have been more cases of that over the last few years. this may be out of your jurisdiction, but it is hard for minors and students to get the morning after pill but do you know, of any organizations or ways to change that? [laughter] organizations i am not familiar rest as much as i know that there is a lot of affirmation from the policy side but with different state law and policy, and i know there are great to websites of where it could be accessed. i am for getting but emergency contraception i know that s in states that have the other laws regulating health care minders came and received chains to process and national abortion federation and planned parenthood has good help. also the work about the stigmatizing abortion and pro-choice in pop culture. one of my favorite topics. thank you. i did examine one chapter the role it has played in pop culture because usually when in mainstream tv shows or movies, if the pregnancy is not intended either it is the common convenient ms. carey said a decision she has to make for the woman decides to have the abortion in the in the waiting room and change your mind which are equally it acceptable ways except did as always presented a respective what is going on in her life if it would make sense financially, h or any other issues. so overall the media, of pop culture presents it as very rare that may be a woman would have been the case is but never the main character which is so at odds that one of three women in this country have had an abortion and that the only time they ever have then is a tragic situation and it destroys their lives. but there are a lot of tv and films to take a more nuanced approach. i grew up near the the canadian border so i am a fan of the teen so barbara that has approached this subject many times the medical soap opera and praise anatomy and private practice could be unrealistic but it is notable because they addressed abortion and women can have this for many reasons and teenagers can choose to parent. private practice is the only mainstream network tv show that i know of that the main character is identified as the abortion provider which is significant. there is a great short film called obvious child that takes a relaxed and realistic view. it is out there you just have to look for it. i think the 55 million number is shocking and an elephant in the room and what is disturbing is it speaks to the tremendous inequalities that we have parents who are for or forever reason to not get the resources to make decisions or to do it. we have none of these problems in every single person who gets pregnant has every equal playing field to be developed, and no health problems, no economic constraints, is that the only way you can answer this question? would you force women to have a baby to give it to someone who really wants a child? it is very disturbing and i have a difficult time but a perfect world doesn t exist and you end up with the tragedy. a lot of people can t have children. those programs that encourage adoption that make it possible domestically or internationally are important. in the u.s. it can be a nightmare paperwork, and many, to say do that is easier said than done and even if you do have a perfect world every pregnancy is wanted and the best health care and support and work environment to keep her job and after words, you can still have catastrophic health problems and fetal abnormalities. did a perfect world you don t have that either. [laughter] 55 million is a large number this shows how many men or women cannot get the education they need to have access to contraception it speaks as a society to insure every child is wanted and can be cared for. you could want the child but not have the resources to care for them. maybe it speaks to the social safety net. now with the contraceptive pill the number would be reduced? that d said good question. if both genders could use it at the same time, yes. i think the more reliable contraception the more you would see the rate decrease. think it gets to the question why there hasn t been one developed yet maybe that is the bigger conversation. thank you. [applause] we have allowed a human rights nightmare to occur on our watch. since dr. king s death the vast new system of social control has emerged from the ashes of slavery that no doubt has him turning in his grave today. the mass incarceration of pork people of color in the united states is paramount to a new system that shows the young people to decrepit underfunded schools to high-tech prisons. a system that blocks for people of color into a permanent second class status as effectively as social control once did. it is the moral equivalent of jim crow. one. reid and know if franklin roosevelt ever heard of the call for health care as a right because even though he endorse the conference, he chose to go on vacation, a cruise. probably will deserved the three years earlier if tear refused to include medical coverage with the social security act because he did not want to antagonize the american medical profession. he did send a message of support to the conference but then the outbreak of world war to force the president s attention elsewhere. five years later january 11, 1944 in the state of the union address roosevelt spoke to the american people about the war and especially the peace to establish after fascism that the one supreme objective can be summed up in one word, a security. not only physical security from aggressors but also economic security and social security. the individual political rights were necessary but not sufficient to guarantee true security then announced the economic belgrade s as some call the second bill of rights, included the right to a job and a living wage, housing, education, se curity in old age, get adequate medical care and enjoy good health. even though it fdr missed hearing the speech he has echoes in the second to bill of rights. social rights is a supplement to political rights starting as far back as the french revolution but the idea of medical care was more recent. this discussion was common in the 30 s and 40 s because medical care itself was becoming more effective and starting to matter. before they knew about medical miracles like vaccinations, penicillin, an tiseptic surgery to extend the life and to withhold the miracles came to seem unjust. and medical care was also starting to cost more in the average family could not pay for a hospital stay where major illness or the birth of a child out of wages it was not only life and health that cause serious financial hardship. that is why it is a matter of economic security as well as health security. as the demands of a social right to it was represented from people like florence greenberg the national prominence of the second bill of rights and finally adopted united nations and universal declaration of human rights after world war two s takes to eleanor
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( cheers and applause ) jon: hey, welcome to the daily show. my name is jon stewart. our guest is donnie wahlberg going to be joining us later on the program on the. lonnie anderson. that s the woman i would be. ( applause ) if you can be any animal, if you can be any woman but nobody ever asked me are you satisfied with you? (laughing) a little bit of housekeeping. last week we did a very clever bit on our program called 19th century news. within the bit we had very witty fun concerning mississippi s just recently ratifying the 13th amendment. agreeing to end slavery, a mere 148 years after. after the rest of us. as many of you know, if i am bringing up something that we did on the show last week, i m probably about to apologize for it. maybe i m apologizing to mississippi as painting it to some kind of reluctant entrant to modern morality. yes, no. it concerns a former mississippi secretary of state who presided over a 1995 attempt to ratify the 13th amendment. it failed due to a bureaucratic snafu their former secretary of state failed to send a copy of the resolution to the federal registrar. jon: classic. here s my impression of him mailing mississippi s 13th amendment ratification to the federal registrar. so glad we did this. that s really nice. let me just put this in the mailbox. oh, what fun! let me explain what we did just there. we used the gentleman by the name of dick molfuss largely because his name was dick molfuss as an avitar for casual bigotry forgetting that perhaps dick molfuss is a real person with a real record on civil rights. you may be thinking to yourself, couldn t you just look that up? yeah, we could have. or, or we could have remained smugly satisfied with the funny name. we went with b mainly because i am a made 12-year-old boy trapped in a 75-year-old man s body. so as it turns out dick molfuss don t get tickled by the name, johnny boy it turns out dick molfuss has a long and distinguished record of speaking out for civil rights in mississippi. he s an honorable and good man. who in the 90s led the charge on big voting rights reforms there. in 1989 he spoke at a 25th anniversary memorial for the three civil rights activists murdered outside philadelphia mississippi during the summer, a speech that earned mr. molpus death threats. apparently bitter racists live longer than you would think. anyway, we found out all this, i d say, about a half hour after it aired on a thursday night i might add. not the best night for us to make a mistake. sincere apologies to mr. molpus. he did not ask us for apologize. no one contacted us to complain. my guess is they don t even know we re alive and are probably too busy trying to make a difference in this world, to care. we apologize because, well, we like to believe there s still a little dick molpus in all of us. ( cheers and applause ) and that even elitist pricks like me can sometimes still pick up that 3:00 a.m. conscience wake-up call and that. (music). that sounded pretty good, man. what s next on the show? the commonwealth is preparing to repeal a 136-year-old law that makes it illegal for unmarried virginian couples to live together. jon: damn you, south. do not make me [bleep] on you. so you re saying virginia s not really for lovers? next you ll tell me michigan s not for bringing lemonade and condoms to someone who turns out to be nbc s. we ll apologize tomorrow. i guess we ll find out when virginia passed that law in tonight s episode of 19th century news. hello, everybody. my most he s teemed viewers, tis i your humble host. my guest tonight florence nightingale. she s written a new book on something called antiseptics and their role in fighting deadly infections on the irish. first the 1800s people. first, a brief word from our sponsor. when it s friday night and you don t have to be anywhere til tuesday. anyway, our top story tonight, virginia has banned living in sin. no longer shall unmarried men and women terrorize our good state with their privates behind closed doors relationship. in technology news there s a brand new labor saving device on the market called chinese people. chinese people because building a railroad is expensive. and hard. wow. that show is something. isn t it? we have come a long way in this country. i cannot believe we used to exploit chinese labor to build our technology. ( cheers and applause ) of course, that virginia no cohabitation law probably hasn t been enforced for 100 years it hasn t been enforced apparently since the 1990s when day care operator darlene davis had her business license held up because she was living with her man. jon: are you [bleep] kidding me? they had to be stopped? most normal states would just be happy they found each other. virginia, but this is only a start in virginia s effort to stay current with the last century. the statue has been one of those lingering legal curiosities like the law against washing your mule on the sidewalk, no hunting on sundays and our famous anti-sodomy statute sniem your famous anti-sodomy statute? you talk about that the same way masons talked about their hot dogs. virginia, come for the beaches. stay because we incarcerated you forgetting a blow job. and this isn t the first victory for the state senator who spearheaded the repeal adam evan he has targeted old laws before i repealed the law against serving sangria about six years ago. we re working at them one at a time. jon: why is that guy so familiar? wait a minute. is that the same the same man of the sidewalk mule washer stand. virginia, stop that man. 3 ( cheers and applause ) jon: welcome back to the show. as you may know instead of steep budget cuts known as the sequester rapidly approaching is the subject of our new recurring segment. congress passed and the president signed into law the sequester, $1.2 trillion in automatic spending cuts over ten years that would kick in unless we came up with a cooperative deficit reduction plan. we put this into place because. why did we do that again? when all sides agreed to the sequester a year-and-a-half ago, those automatic across-the-board sending cuts, were supposed to be so painful it would force the president and congress to make a deal. jon: so what happens if this sequester kicks in? just in time for spring national parks like yosemite will see their services cut. jon: all right. i wasn t going there anyway. 700,000 civilian defense department workers to take one day off a week, a 20% pay cut. jon: as long as iran doesn t attack on a thursday, you know. i m sure it will be fine the sequester could devastate our economy. fewer f.b.i. agents kids kicked out of child care program fewer air traffic controllers. nearly $4 million could be slashed to provide males for needy shortages. in texas nearly 10,000 fewer children will receive vaccines for diseases like whooping cough and the flu. jon: holy [bleep]. we re doomed. we re going to have to get jobs feeding sick children to old people. why did i only buy the hat? (crying) please tell me there s still time to fix things. this is the final countdown. we are just four days from the sequester deadline. jon: four days. that s not enough time to do anything. can t even tow a cruiseship of diarrhea to alabama in four days. are they at least working hard on fixing this some lawmakers left town for a week-long recess president obama played golf with tiger woods in florida last weekend sniem i m sure tiger woods has a lot of sequester advice. i don t know, mr. president. did you ever try hitting it with a club? i don t know. for more on the sequester we go to samantha bee in washington. the sequester is four days away. we re staring into the economic abyss. what is going on down there reporter: nothing, jon. everything will work out just fine. no need to panic. not like we re four days away from everything we know as the american way of life being destroyed. which is why i have in no way spent the last eight hours having sex with literally everything that moves. jon: sam, i mean you really sound like the world is ending reporter: that s right, jon. if you were smart you d be bucket listing too. jon: i want to bucket list. the president is bucket listing reporter: golf with tiger woods? before that, the miami heat? an afternoon with the ladies of modern family. you know the first lady s bucket listing too jon: what is she bucket listing reporter: the bangs, jon. nobody over the age of 16 gets bangs unless they know the end is near. that is not all she s been up to. dancing like beyonce with jimmy fallon. giving away the oscar for best picture. personally i would have gone with winning an oscar. you know, it s on my list. jon: if this were true shouldn t they be warning the entire country about this reporter: yeah because this administration is all about transparency. they want us to know everything. benghazi, drones. that room in the white house basement that is full of biden clones. jon: biden clones? forget it. what about the republicans? they have to know about this. why aren t they going bucket list crazy reporter: you mean willfully blocking all the president s ideas. come on, jon. he even went on a state of the union dream date with ted nugent. that is their bucket list. they just haven t updated it in half a century. getting their baseball gloves signed by herman killbrew is still on there jon: that won t happen. just out of curiosity what s next on your bucket list reporter: not talking to you, that s for sure. if you excuse me i am off to shoot a panda with a cross bow. jon: your dying dream is to kill a panda reporter: no, jon. it s to eat one. you have to kill it first. jon: all right. thank you, sam. we ll be right back after?ñ?ñ?ñz ( cheers and applause ) jon: welcome back. my guest tonight stars on cbs s blue blood. also the executive producer of tnt s new reality show about boston s police officers called boston s finest i don t want to get up at 5:00 in the morning and go to boxing. i think of being in a foot chase and losing. there s the chance you ll be fighting for your life on the side of the road where your back-up is a minute away. i have to stay on top of my game. it could save my life. it could save my partner s life. dig it in. dig it in. that s a tremendous amount of responsibility that i take very seriously. jon: please welcome donnie wahlberg. ( cheers and applause ) my man. look at you. sharp as a tack, my friend. sharp as a tack. how are you? i m good. i felt the need to dress up tonight jon: can i tell you something? much respect to you. many of our guests come here and they believe it s the last stop, the qaboos. they come in with like a sack, a thing. they don t care. you, sir, i care jon: thank you i care jon: i appreciate that. now, you re playing a new york city cop on your show. you re doing a show about boston cops. i feel like you are getting ready to pull some [bleep] on the east coast. i think i ve been already pulling some [bleep] on the east coast for the last few years. playing a new york cop and being from boston is very, very delicate. it s very delicate. and the writers on blue blood, you know, they love to needle me because they know i m a celtics, red sox, bruins, patriots fan. jon: that s all the time we have for tonight. thank you for being here though. but, you know, they write lines for me like the patriots suck. jon: just to taunt you my partner was date ago guy who was a patriots fan. my only response was dump the jerk. they constantly are needling me besides the fact that the patriots lost the super bowl and they had to come back from the super bowl trying to everyone on set putting posters on my dressing room door and giants banners everywhere and pictures of eli manning jon: i have that in my room too but it s different. i have a bed spread of him. it makes me feel comfortable. you ve had your run though. boston has had, you know, you re dealing in our city we don t want to talk sports all of them. the rangers we have one championship in 90 years. the knicks had a couple in the 70s. i m a mets fan (scratterred applause n) jon: that is the appropriate level of enthusiasm. if it s any consolation when the mets last won it was against my red sox in that very famous bill buckner play. we shouldn t talk sports. i have to say this bill buckner thing. let me clear this up. bill buckner when he missed that ball the game was already tied. it had slipped away. our bullpen was tired. slipping away. the play before that, bob stanley was pitching jon: they never should have brought stanley in i believed stanley would win it for us. jon: of course you would believe that. you re from boston i still wake up some mornings and say, did wexd lose? but bob stanley threw an inside pitch. rich gedman didn t move enough for them. that was the play, the fastball tied the game. i saw rich in interviews later. i love you, rich. he said, i was so cold in that last inning that i couldn t really move. i was kind of stuck frozen. to me that was validation that he didn t get to that ball that bill stanley threw. jon: a boston guy and it must have been 50 degrees that night. i can t believe. i was too cold ? it was october. they didn t play in antarctica. come on! here s the thing. the mets won. and all that suffering we went through led us up to 2004 when we kicked the yankees ass. jon: the detail in which you remember that is the same as the detail in which i remember these things. my wife, whom i love and i ve been with almost 20 years, there is nothing in our world that i have that level of detail remembrance of. like she d be like remember our wedding? i d be like, oh, yeah, there was a cake. when you re talking about baseball. he was wearing a very light sweater. the level of detail that you remember these sports moments is incredible. let s talk about the cop shows. so the boston guys, the boston cops must have been a little reluctant to get involved with this. yes? i think any cop worth their salt don t want to just get involved in a reality show right away. i think for me, you know, i know playing a cop i play one on tv. i don t want to make light of that. i ve worked with cops and probably played 800 jobs in my acting career. i ve had 801 jobs and 800 were cops. that s beside the point. that s helped me and prepared me to be the right guy to produce this show. i think i know. jon: they trusted you by the fact that you re from there. you ve hung around cops. they trust you you with this i m a boston boy. i m sort of known in boston. thank you. i m sort of known. you know, when we first talked to tnt about doing the show, me and my partners went and met with them. they were like we re talking about doing a boston cop show. i said, look, we ll only do it with you, with this network. we can t do it on one of these rowdy networks with billy club smashing. jon: it won t be like the shirtless guys getting pulled out of. once in a while. but it s boston. i have to represent my city the right way. i m not going to make these crazy reality shows that people make. i want to make something classy that shows these cops in boston jon: how difficult a job it is absolutely. so we went to the mayor first. the mayor, he signed off right away. and the commissioner signed off after that. and the chief signed off after that. all the way down the line they were signing off. they all said the same thing. talk to the officers. if they don t feel safe with you in the car, you re getting out of the car and taking your camera and go home. as long as the officers wanted to do. the officers, having played a cop and worked like a new york city detectives, our technical advisors on blue bloods, he s taught me the most important thiblg. all about getting home safely to your family. do your job. protect the street. protect your partner and get home safe at the end of the day. i knew that and brought that to the show. me and the whole. jon: boston s finest. going to premiere on tnt this wednesday at 9:00. blue blood. donnie wahlberg,
i ve seen it. [laughter] and please follow me on twitter so we can live chat during the show. you can also watch full episodes of tosh.0 on flo tv live mobile television. finally, i showed you this video last week and asked you to guess what i was reacting to. well, here are your guesses. was it jane lynch winning an emmy? [laughter] no, it wasn t, but she deserved it. i am a huge gleetard. i don t know. but it was recio from the black guy clip of the week? yes, recio, that was you. [laughter] [audience ohs] were you watching the jets and the slutty mexican reporter? no. i find that hard to believe. the jets can t score on anyone. [audience ohs] [cheers and applause] gonna be a long year, sanchez. [laughter] you were watching the diff rent strokes episode with dudley in the bike shop. oh! you mean the molesting episode. no, i wasn t, but solid reference. no. was it the interrogation room suicide? no. [laughter] good job being wrong, everybody. it was a video of a gu all right, we are out of time. see you next week. good night. [cheers and applause] captioning sponsored by comedy central [ the colbert report theme music playing] [eagle caw] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [crowd chanting stephen! ] [cheers and applause] welcome to the report. stephen: good to have you with us. [cheers and applause] thank you so much, folks. glad you are with me here tonight. nation, al gore should be turning over in his grave, [laughter] because it s march 6th and it is still winter. [laughter] a massive storm is sweeping the country, so i hope you re bundled up somewhere warm, surrounded by your loved ones. particularly your slow moving, well-marbled loved ones. [laughter] you never know. now, this year the weather channel has taken to naming all the winter storms, they re calling this one winter storm saturn. personally, i would have gone with uranus because that s where they are pulling these names from. [laughter] besides, the rest of the media has a much better name for the storm. the dreaded s word, snowquester. snowquester. snowquester. snowquester. snowquester, right? > they re calling it snowquester which i think is great. isn t that cute? i think it s cute. [laughter] stephen: it is cute. and deadly. [laughter] of course, the snowquester is a combination of snow and the sequester. nation, i think this fantastic and ridiculous. or, fantasticulous. [laughter] we should name all of our weather events after what kind they are plus whatever people are talking about on television at the time. today, a washington is blanketed in the snowquester, tomorrow, a storm covers new york in drone-cicles. [laughter] or a freak blizz-ardashian. as we speak oklahoma is still suffering the effects of pope bene-drought the 16th? [laughter] i mean, isn t that cute? [cheers and applause] kind of cute. anyway, i think that s cute over to you stephen. thanks, steve! [laughter] nation, no one is a bigger fan of the civil rights movement than yours truly. i even attended 1963 s historic march on washington and this is true while still in my mother s womb. [laughter] i ll never forget martin luther king s stirring words. [heartbeat sounds] [muffled voice] [laughter] that s why i m personally invested in a challenge to the 1965 voting rights act now before the supreme court. that s right. the law that banned the silencing of african americans is finally coming before our nation s foremost silent african-american. [laughter] of course, before the voting rights act black people were regularly kept from voting with roadblocks like literacy tests, poll taxes, and you must be this white to vote signs. [laughter] now that law is being challenged in the supreme court by shelby county, alabama. they argue that the law is unfair, because it applies only to states with histories of racial discrimination: alabama, arizona, georgia, louisiana, mississippi, south carolina, texas, parts of carolina, texas, virginia, and alaska, which has a sad history of discriminating against its african american population brian. [laughter] good guy. [ laughter ] he s a good guy. [laughter] but there s one key reason to strike this act down, as shelby there s one reason to get rid of this law as shelby county lawyer bert rein explained to the court. the problem to which the voting rights act was addressed is solved. stephen: you heard it, folks: racism is solved! jimmy, drop the fully integrated balloons! [cheers and applause] we overcame it! whoo! [cheers and applause] look at that! [cheers and applause] look at that! look at that! [cheers and applause] wow. [cheers and applause] wow, i must have missed the moment when racism ended. i wonder when it was? the time ross dated aisha tyler on friends ? [laughter] or when keebler added a black elf? [laughter] oh, i know, it must have been when they made slavery illegal in mississippi all the way back in four weeks ago. [laughter] [ applause ] in fact, we re living in such a post-racial utopia that we couldn t suppress black votes even if we wanted to! which we definitely don t. [laughter] luckily conservative stalwart and justice-the-hutt antonin scalia knows that the courts have to decide this, because even though racism is over, america s elected representatives lack the bicameral ball sack to vote against this thing. i am fairly confident it will be reenacted in perpetuity unless unless a court can say it does not comport with the constitution. it s it s a concern that this is not the kind of a question you can leave to congress. even the name of it is wonderful: the voting rights act. who is going to vote against that in the future? stephen: yes, you d have to be an a-hole to vote against that in the future! luckily, we ve got an a-hole who will vote against it in the present. [laughter] the point is, the voting rights [cheers and applause] the voting rights act is obsolete it s like an old restraining order. these states are just saying, yes, i used to beat my girlfriend, but i haven t since the restraining order. so we don t need it anymore! [laughter] [cheers and applause] here to celebrate this milestone in equality live via satelite is one of the founders of the student non-violent coordinating committee, chairman emeritus of the naacp and civil rights pioneer julian bond. [cheers and applause] thank you so much. pleasure to be here. stephen: now that racial discrimination is over what do you plan on doing with your free time? take pottery classes, hot yoga? i don t believe that racial discrimination is over. in fact, if anything it s increased during the period when barack obama has been president. stephen: sorry, excuse me, sir, when the black president was president racism got worse? that doesn t really make any sense. yes, did it. stephen: how is that possible he is black. exactly so and his presence angered people who accused accuf him of being president while black. stephen: he is guilty of being president while black, you admit that? yes, he is. luckily the numbers of people who don t like it are small but the fact that they exist is upsetting. stephen: now that the supreme court it s people in black robes it s people in progress. it s step it s not a step forward but you know, i am sure you are talking about the statements made by justice scalia. he is the rush limbaugh of the supreme court. says inappropriate things over and over again most recently about the voting rights act. stephen: yes, it s not a necessity a racial entitlement. it s not an entitlement to be able to vote without discrimination. it s something all americans expect to have. stephen: can we even remember who was denying voting rights to whom? of course we can. i m old enough to remember. stephen: i can t. you lived in south carolina. south carolina was a major offender and so a certain degree, much less so now, south carolina is an offender now. stephen: i don t remember being discriminated in south carolina. the point is that you were not discriminated in south carolina. stephen: i accept your apoll by. black people in s.c. were discriminated against. stephen: what is wrong with a little voter intimidation? doesn t it make the voter hungrier with the right to vote? it s like the right to vote is playing hard to get. it s exciting. it s a poll tease. oddly enough the attempts by republicans to make it difficult for racial are notes to vote in the last election spurred more to the polls than were expected to good there. stephen: you ve got georgia roots, clarence thomas has georgia roots. how come you see it so differently? justice thomas and i have lived different lives and drawn different lessons from the lives we ve lived. he thinks this way and i think that way and i m right. stephen: you are right. okay. once it s not happening anymore shouldn t you let the law go? for instance, we don t have slavery anymore. shouldn t we get rid of the 13th amendment. doesn t seem necessary. [ laughter ] i m glad it s there. stephen: okay. because it would have affected me fit weren t. stephen: that s assuming that people would want to enslave african-americans again and it s a little prejudicial. there would be people eager to do so. luckily their numbers are not great and they don t seem to have much power. stephen: we re not going to enslave african-americans, sir, we have mexican nows. indeed. i m glad the mexicans are glad to hear that. stephen: mr. bond thank you for joining me. [cheers and applause] stephen: welcome back, everybody. thank you so much, folks. ladies and gentlemen [cheers and applause] you know what they say? there is absolutely no such thing as a free lunch. so there might be, after i shamelessly plug delicious lunchables like the name says they are able to be lunch this is thought for food. nation, nowhere is the nanny-state more rampant than new york city, where mayor bloom-jerk trademark has been curtailing food freedoms. first, he banned trans-fats, then he put calorie counts on menus, and now starting on march 12th, you won t be allowed to order a 2-liter soda with your pizza delivery. that s a lot less weight to carry for the delivery guy, who is the only person in this scenario getting any exercise. [laughter] bloomberg is acting like americans can t control what goes into their own mouths. well, he s wrong we can control our mouths. or at least snack food scientists can. [laughter] because last week the new york times reported that the nacho-industrial complex has discovered something called the bliss point, an addictive combination of flavors that create the greatest amount of crave. [laughter] it s the most ambitious project in food science since america put a man on a beanbag chair, and gave him a tube of cookie dough. [laughter] it was one small nap for man. no steps at all of any kind. [laughter] [cheers and applause] a recent breakthrough is that doritos has developed a complex formula that piques the taste buds enough to be alluring without a distinct, overriding single flavor that tells the brain to stop eating. yes, doritos has engineered chips so that you keep shoveling them in your mouth without ever feeling satisfied. which explains their new flavor: blazin buffalo bottomless pit of unfulfilled longing. [laughter] [cheers and applause] now, this kind of flavor-based behavior modification may work on your casual snacker, but no snack company is gonna make me their bitch. [laughter] so screw the bliss point! i m going to prove to the world, and mayor bloomberg, that i can eat a single tostito scoop. [cheers and applause] jim, snack music please. you are the best you know what, i m in such control here, i will choose to have one more scoop. [laughter] they are scoops. i ll have it with some dip. hit it, jimmy. you are the best stephen: welcome back, everybody. my guest tonight is an artist who does impressionis. for wal-mart shoppers. his painteddings cost $6.99 for a pack of six. please welcome brendan o connell. [cheers and applause] mr. o connell thank you for coming on. thank you for having me. stephen: you are an american painter traditionally trained. more or less. stephen: more or less. let s say more. all right. [ laughter ] you capture themes of every day life and you ve chosen to paint scenes from wal-mart. i started painting wal-marts eight years ago. stephen: did they know? well stephen: let show the people what i mean. jim, put up one of these. it s hard to explain. okay. stephen: that s one of your paintings? what inspired you to paint a rack of jif? i just kind of liked the colors, patterns shapes. i ve been painting wal-mart for about eight years and watching people and going in and photographing and they kept asking me to leave. jon: were you going in there with an easeel? i was going with a came are and i would take pictures of the environment and then they said if you continue do that you are going to have to leave. stephen: so you are not allowed to take photos in wal-mart. most retail environments don t allow to you take photos? jon: why? i don t know if they think they are losing trade secrets. stephen: yeah, you can t let out how these are stacked. [laughter] this reminds me immediately of course of like andy warhol s soup can but it was a singular object. it was like objetdar and had a synthetic subjectiveness. this has an aggressive quality that turns pop art into consumer art. now if does what i just said mean anything? not necessarily but [laughter] stephen: good because i was just [cheers and applause] i was just grabbing words out of the air there. what i think is interesting is we have a relationship to brands. i like the view of the world pushing the cart and out of the corner of your eyes five miles per hour you see a blurred vision of the world. stephen: there s my black diamond smoked almond that s my brand. you get minimal information and people know exactly what you are representing. stephen: let s go to the next one here, james. all right, what is this? this is the check out aisle of the north bergen, new jersey, wal-mart. stephen: that s a good one. that s a good one. [laughter] this is when they allowed me to have a feteo shoot there and his a cherry picker and professional photographer and we photographed this thing. what i like about this is you give minimal amount of information. this whole exercise was trying to put as little paint on the canvas. stephen: it s an impressionist version of a parade. they were painting in paris and i feel like i m painting the aisles of wal-mart. stephen: let s go to the next one here. now is everyone who shops at wal-mart sexy? because i ll go there more often if this is what you get. that s my wife. stephen: oh, it is. no. [ laughter ] i had various models over the years go in and i paid them to shop basically. so that s how the series began. i had the classic american blonde shopping in wal-mart. stephen: let s go to the next one. okay. is this called us. great big us. stephen: i love this one. is there anyway you could the only thing that would make it better is can i click on the painting and purchase these items? i sometimes snack while painting. it s you know, it s very big. this one is like seven feet by eight feet. stephen: how much do these things go for? that is worth $40,000. stephen: $40,000 whasms is the low end? the small one goes for $1,000. stephen: okay. could people who shop at wal-mart afford the paintings you make of them? [cheers and applause] what is interesting about the half the people who buy the paintings have never bought a piece of contemporary art before and the other half spend $100,000 every year. what i like is it s a series that seems to have a broad spectrum of interest. stephen: you are about to get a lot more interest because you are getting the colbert bump tonight, all right? [cheers and applause] today you are painting wal-mart. this time next week you are painting at whole foods! thank you so much for joining me. brendan o connell, painter of wal-mart. we ll be right back. [cheers and applause] ,x
determined from tuesday night a. key state wide office in virginia. the same office that gave rise to ken cuccinelli. the race is close. it seems there are thousands of ballots that went uncounted on election night. we will film you in on the latest on that. we are wondering if history will, indeed, repeat itself with chris christie playing that role. i have thoughts about that. it involves explaining to you what something called a he cume is. you might want to stick around for that. our friend mellissa harris-perry is taking her dedication will pay off. that is ahead. but first, president obama is waking up in miami, florida today on his tour of southern statesch red southern states encouraging republicans to do something he didn t expect he d have to be doing 17 months ago. it starts in june of 2012. that s when the supreme court issues its long awaited ruling on obama care. to the surprise of many and dismay of conservatives, it upheld the law. that ruling came with a catch. the law called for states to expand their ped cade programs, to expand low income people eligible for subsidized health care coverage and for the federal government to pick up the lion s share of the cost of that expansion. but the court also ruled states didn t have to take part in this expansion. they didn t have to take the free medicaid money. it would be their choice. someone said this might be a problem. here we were smack in the middle of the tea party era when opposing fighting and railing against obama care was a test of basic tribal loyaltive. wouldn t governors see a political advantage and imperative in rejecting the money, in rejecting the expansion of ped cade in undercutting a crucial component of the health care law. that court ruling came down a year-and-a-half ago, conventional wisdom was resounding. of course not. it is the most general federal match in the history of medicaid. a vast ma voter of states will come in. for those few to come in will have to answer why they re letting people down. the generous thing you can say is lou was partially right a. handful of republican states have slowly come into the fold. mostly recently, john casich of ohio. still that medicaid money is still being left on the table in half the states. it basically tracks what the red state, blue state dwiechltd there are currently 25 states that are not moving forward on the medicaid expansion. of those 25 states only six of them voted for obama last year. maine, new hampshire, wisconsin, pennsylvania, virginia and florida and not coincidentally not all of those states has a republican governor. in the sixth, new hampshire has a democratic dpof who must deal with a republican state senate. that map could be changing a little. new hampshire is right now holding a special session on this issue. the governor maggie hassand a democrat, she is trying to find some kind of compromise with state legislators. virginia on tuesday elected a newf go, a democratic governor, terry mcauliffe, who says he wants to expand ped cade rules in his state. rick scott, florida governor, actually came around on the law this spring only to be jammed up by his republican state legislature. we will see what happens with that. in other red states, there is no sign of any momentum. then there are the states that are embracing medicaid expansion, there are 25 of them. along with the district of columbia. five of those states voted for romney last year. three of them, arkansas, kentucky, west virginia, those three states have democratic governors. also, north dakota jack doulrichle came around, jane brewer waged a protracted fight with her colleagues. governor rick snyder is a democrat in a blue state. if you can make sense of all. that he had a similar standoff with his own party and he prevailed this summer. there is progress on the medicaid expansion front, but it is very slow. and the technical problems with the health care exchanges website have only given republicans another excuse to drag their heels and just say no. as long as fighting obama care remains a preparty test, it s hard to see most of america embracing medicare expansion. this is why the brent to the heart, to dallas texas, to make a pitch for rick merry s state to sign on for expansion. i think that all of you understand that no state that actually needs this more than texas. here in just the dallas area, 133,000 people who don t currently have health insurance would immediately get health insurance, without even having to go through the website if the state of texas decided to do it. but this is the tea party era. this is texas. so not surprising outside that event there were protesters tweaking president obama. democrats in general are fighting a long war here. it seems that for the foreseeable future, being poor in red state america and poor in blue state america will mean very different levels of service all because of our polarized politics. we will talk about all of this with a policy reporter for politico.com. a political correspondent for national journal, nbc correspondent. steve kornacki, last minute. jeremy peters, politics reporter from the new york times. thank you for joining us. i guess we start with that. we placed jack lew a week after the supreme court ruling came down in june of 2012. i think the conventional wis come he was expressing was, yeah, sure, technically the courts allowed the states could opt out. there will be an immense amount of pressure from the hospitals and their states to take this money. at the end of the day, this is one of those things we will all have to give in. here we are, as we say, a week and a half later, that just hasn t happened. is that a surprise to anyone here? what has happened that alleged the stalemate? i think it underestimated the challenge. right now, this is one of the affect. ed ways for republicans to protest this law. they ve done a number of symbolic things. they ve voted over 40 times in the house to repeal it. they ve shut down the government over obama care, which nobody knew it wasn t going to work and succeed into funding that law. so this is one of the ways to effectively throw a monkey wrench in the plan, it does interfere with the law of the land. it covers a large swath of people through the expansion of medicare, medicaid. when they decide to opt out. it interferes with the goals of the law and the mech names put in place. so, for example, the federal government is going to gradually phase out uncomplicated care because that money was supposed to be offset by medicaid and for states that opt out and aren t expanding medicaid, it s an effective way to protest and opt out setting up their own exchanges. that s a part of the problem with the website is there has been a lot of money alocated for states to set up their own exchanges, not for the federal government to put it together. so when they have to take on that work, it interferes with the whole process. or now, it s one of the effective ways the governor has to protest obama care. that really is driving all of this, basically the republican party decided in the run up to the enactment of obama care this is the no. 1 thing they are fighting, the test of being a republican today is fighting obama care tooth and name. it seems as long as that s the case, there is no incentive to expand it in his or her state. one is by allowing states to opt out of this, what you have is what should have been a policy debate turned into strictly a political debate. that s what s happening in these states right now, legislators rejecting the policy that has become their raise on detra. they will stop at nothing, it seems, to try to smash this law. but where it gets tricky, i think, is if you look at who exactly is suffering because medicaid is not being expanded to the states, these 2006 have not opted into it. that s half the population. it is also two-thirds of the poor. and poorer states. exactly. so these people are left behind. i want to play this first. this was president obama in new orleans yesterday. he is making his case in a red state yesterday in new orleans. one thing, though, i was talking to your mayor and your governor about, though, a separate issue is one thing the affordable care act does is expand medicaid to cover more of their citizens and, you know, here in louisiana, here in louisiana that, benefitted about 265,000 people. so there, he is making the case. of course, within like an hour of giving that speech, the republican governor of louisiana, bobby jindal puts out a statement, we will not allow president obama to bully louisiana into accepting expansion of obama care. we have rejected it in louisiana. because it would cost taxpayers $1.7 over the next ten years and move 250,000 louisianians from private cover to medicaid. a case in point, we don t need top down one size fits all mandates. it strikes me, i start to wonder, what is the point of this tour that president obama is on right now given the sort of polarized reality of american politics. he goes into a red state in louisiana. he makes good faith state for this law. there is nothing to do than attack the bullying of the democratic president. i think they are both posturing here. he wants to go there and say he s doing his best to do something, because what kells he do? he knows and they know they re not coming around. i think if i was bobby jindal, i would look at jan brewer in arizona, tea party rewho. she eats scorpions for breakfast, according to title of her book. she was on the fascial stage of immigration a few years ago and she decided to go ahead with the medicaid expansion and it s now become a person is that non-grataf. i was jindal looking at 2016, i would look at that example and say, woe, i better back off there. the key is, i don t think he s running for re-election again in arizona, so this is sort of the end of the line for her so what, could, is there anything the president the white house the supporters, what can they do to get the governor of lousiana the government of mississippi, states like this, what can they do to get get them to say, okay. we will sign won medicaid expansion. i think the time will be the main thing here. it s been more than a year. lolts of time has passed. a few republican governors have actually signed on. so if you think of them, there are about 30 republican governors, i d say almost a half signed on to expanding medicaid and tear state. if you look at john case kasich in ohio, he said, we need this for the state we need the money. we will do this on our own. that you notice will they can it to independent court. tennessee is looking at this. up in maine, paul le page has vetoed the expansion of the medicaid, but he s just recently come out and said, you know even though i vetoed it, there are ideas i would support. in arkansas, they came up with a deal to assuage republicans where instead of taking the medicaid money, they would change it so that the money would go to the private insurance. so individuals instead of being on medicaid would use funds for private insurance. now we are seeing a whole bunch of republicans sort of opened to that bobby jindal will not be one of them. i think we are seeing movement on this and over time as governors see this is a free pot of money if they want it, i think we re going to see more. arkansas issued an example, too, you have a state that voted overwhelmingly, on the other side of the break with ve a former governor in a state that may be, probably right now is the next battleground over the expansion of medicaid. that s virginia because of what happened tuesday night in virginia. we will talk to the former governor there right after this. vo: it s that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don t have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. open enrollment ends december 7th. so now s the time. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare [ chicken caws ] [ male announcer ] when your favorite food starts a fight, fight back fast with tums. heartburn relief that neutralizes acid on contact and goes to work in seconds. tum, tum tum tum tums! heartburn relief that neutralizes acid on contact save your coffee from the artificial stuff. switch to truvia. great tasting, zero-calorie sweetness. .from the stevia leaf. how old is the oldest person you ve known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who s lived well into their 90s. and that s a great thing. but even though we re living longer, one thing that hasn t changed much is the official retirement age. the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. it is $21 billion. it s our money. we should be bringing it back. 29 states have already agreed to do it. it s just that it s fiscally irresponsible not to take it to those virginians that get life saving care. it s morally and socially the right thing to do. that is the incoming lt. gov. terry mcauliffe, here to talk more about how health care played a role in the 2013 governor s race in virginia, i want to bring in a former virginia governor jim gilmore, a republican. he joins us live from richmond right now. governor, appreciate the time this morning. so this was a pretty big campaign issue in your state where terry mcauliffe, you know, clearly said throughout this campaign he wants to expand medicaid, his opponent ran ads saying, don t vote for terry mcauliffe, he will expand it. now he has one, i know he has to deal with a republican majority in one of the state legislative chambers. do you expect they will have medicaid as a result of this election? well that s not really clear. let me say, everybody wants americans to have access to good health care t. real question is, is this the best way to do it? is this obama care the common sense approach and most people really think that it is not the best approach. now, look, governor. i don t mean to interrupt, from a state standpoint, we had the federal argument the federal level is obama dare right way? at the federal level, obama care is the law. what is being asked is to expand their rules and have that paid for by the federal government and slowly phase it out to 90%. ultimately, 90% is coming from the federal government for your state. well, first of all, this is a chart. this is what is happening in virginia right now. when i was governor, we were paying about $3 billion for medicaid, now it s up to $7 billion in the last ten years revenues have not kept up with that. it s increasingly expanding health care that will go on forever. when the states have to kick in that 10%, ten it s going to be a giant hole in the budget. that s the problem that people are foreseeing that will be the problem. that s the reality. the question is not whether we want toem people to have health care, is this sustainable? what is going to happen as this continues to expand and expand at the state level and more and more costs are built in because nothing controls costs in obama care. that continues to go on, then it s going to crowd out other things. where is the money going to come from for transportation? where is it coming from for education? where is it coming from for public safety? the answer, of course, is these are the first dollars that must be spent. if you have to do all this other great stuff, you raise taxes. people foresee this. they understand this, the problem is that obama care is not a good approach and the difficulty you got now is that because everybody says, well it s the law, so we all got to do it? well, it stops us from thinking of other innovative ways of providing health care. the real problem we got right now is that this thing is going to be a continuous expansion that goes on forever. one more thing the fact is that they re saying right now and governor elect mcauliffe who i just met with yesterday is focusing on the fact as all the other governors are, including governor kasich, we re going to get this big slug of money in here well, the federal government is bribing in the long run it will be catastrophic to the states. people across the country are saying, wait a minute, let s take a deep breath and find more innovative approaches. i just want to follow up on something you said. you say that everybody wants better health care an everybody wants more individuals covered, but we need to find more innovative ways to do that. if obama care is not right way what is your alternative? there are other things to talk about. there are self insurance programs for lower income employees are often provided health care programs by their companies. there are no know rate issive ways that you can afford through insurance. obama care will squeeze that out. you see companies saying we can t afford to do this and we will let them go onto the exchanges. of course, we know that technically they haven t been able to implement that. the real underlying problem is not computers t. real underlying problem is you are eliminating the private sector from providing health care coverage in a reasonable way because of this one sides fits all obama care problem. the problem is that this government controlled problem of this approach is squeezing everything else out. if you remember, one more point want to make, the most important thing is we got to get people into the work force so they can get benefits from their employers. that meejs we got to build up this commitment reduce unemployment and get excitement going in this economy again. there is nothing going on in washington to build up this economy and to create jobs and stop worrying about whether or not we will socialize medicine all across the country, we need to be putting innovative things in here to restore the economy, get people back to work again. governor, hi, jeremy peters here. i want to talk about something that may seem obscure to most people, but is important in the way we select our candidates for office. that s the convention system the republican party has in virginia. as you know, the convention process selected ken cuccinelli, a candidate that did not win and many more moderate voters felt was out of step with their views. that happened because the republican party decided to forego the process and put the decision making into the hands of a small group of conservative republicans. do you think the process needs to be opened up? that s a great question. the whole political system is on life support. maybe obama care can provide that for us. the real issue is that with a convention, you are talking about party, rank and file to come in and make this selection. with a primary that is the entire general public. at that point rich people get to come in and finance their particular candidates. it s out of the hands of the party, into the hands of the financiers. on the other hand, everybody gets to vote across the state. if we had party registration in virginia where you had democrats and republicans register as democrats and republican, then a primary system probably might make more sense and i think it s a case by case basis. so that both have pros and cons as to what works best. the question, are you going to put the selection process into the hands of the party rank and file or are you going to put it in the hand of people we don t even know that write big checks. governor, a question for you back on the medicaid expansions. hi, rachel. you mentioned the concern is the costs and if you expand medicaid to say everyone above a certain threshold of the poverty lean. i believe it s for individuals making around $15,000 a year and for families of three or four making around 32, then eventually the costs would grow, grow, grow and the costs would exceed what the states are getting from the government. my question is more immediate, when obama care was created t. point of the medicaid expansion, it was paid for by phaseing out a totally different part of med case. so the federal government right now is taking billions of dollars away from the states on another part of medicare. so i guess my question is, is that a concern? because that s also being taken away right now? if you don t expand it to get money for, you know, certain programs, aren t states just going to lose more money? well, in the short run they might. but in the long run the real issue we are dealing with here is that under all these programs, there has been no thought put into how you control costs and a lot of the states are looking at that right now. virginia is looking at it right now on a competition. governor elect mcauliffe might decide he wants to expand medicaid because he wants to expand that bribe cash supposed to be coming into the federal government. to pick up on rachel s point, specifically, this involves the hospitals in your state. the result of what rachel is talking about is the hospitals who right now care for people who don t have insurance get reimbursed by the federal government. the federal government anticipating that states like yours would take the medicaid money from the federal government, phased out that reimbursement. so right now the hospitals in your state and across the country are lining up. that i are begging governors to sign up for this program because they are in for a huge hit if they don t. doesn t that register with you what the hospitals are saying? it does, that means the federal government made a bad decision. they made a dra conyan decision which injuries providers. in the long run, this whole system here is designed to squeeze providers and that mean, of course, you are going to reduce the provision of health care, the supply of health care. and yet at the same time, you are exploding the number of people who are going to be demanding health care. simple economics tells you that means the costs will go through the ceiling and ultimately, somebody has got to pay for that. it s going to be the taxpayer. now, look, i m not saying we don t want people to have access to health care. what i am saying is we got to find ways of getting the private enterprise system involved more people who are low wages working and getting health care is a benefit. at that point you are not throwing everything onto the government and the taxpayers. the federal government is using this major clout and say we will withdraw the money to pressure the states into a program. i want to say something to you. i was a governor and we always started with medicaid is unalterable. it s right here. this is a big thing. you can t change anything. that s your first dollars that have to be spentch within i was governor, it was about 12% of our budget. now it s closer to between 16 an 20% of our budget. when obama care kicks in, it will blow things out of the water. how are you going to educate children? deal with keeping the streets safe? these are questions, frankly, your panel today has to be willing to give answers to. i haven t heard them. jim gilmore. i appreciate the time this morning. we will be back after this. . you know, i waslyening to jim gilmore, who do you all have to say about the rising costs of medicaid? it reminds me of this rhetoric we haerd about food stanks you look at the number of people suddenly on food stamps, what could be causing that? could it be the fact that the economy melted down and the level of poverty and the level in this country that is in more demand than ever, maybe it has something to do with that. we will digest the conversations with dpof gilmore and where the battle for the expansion of medicare goes right after this. 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[ male announcer ] in stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy and more, swanson makes holiday dishes delicious. . so i think we ve heard from governor gilmore, there is what you are hearing from republicans across the country with the are saying, force we will not expand. one thing i picked up in a lot of what he was saying there, alex, how the problems with the healthcare.gov right now and the problems with the creation of these exchanges are giving ammunition to republicans who want to resist expanding medicaid because they are able to frame it saying, why, look, why would we take part in this program failing at the federal level. it understands the importance of getting this thing up and running and getting it working. it is giving ammunition to the opposition. this is a massive law. from the beginning, republicans have tried to lump it altogether. because if you have one problem with one part of it like healthcare.gov, it translates to everything in the mind s eye of most voters. so i think it s critical. i think obama made a mistake. he was correct on the policy argument. politically, he did nothing to comfort his allies and gave more fodder to his critics who can say, loose, even obama is making a mistake here when he told chuck todd he was sorry. this is clearly a disaster on the website. but they should have seen this coming from the beginning. for the doubt about that. they have done a terrible job on the back end of hand himming the cleanup of the obama white house to overrespond too quickly without thinking through the political allocations. the critical way the website is working, from governors who are not running their own exchanges, that is a part of the reason, then the federal government has to take on the work of managing all of those state exchanges. there are a number of states where things are going quite well because the states are managing their own exchange. a white house official compared this to building a building in a war zone while people are throwing bombs at you, the work required to put this website together was tremendously difficult. then you add on the aspect of working in a tense political cloimt. so it s a little disingenuous to criticize the way the website is working when part of the reason it is having problems and granted the administration did not do a good job of setting this up to make shower they have the mechanisms in place to handle the single technological challenges the administration has to face. within that, they have the added challenge of taking on work they were going to do. kentucky the democratic governor of kentucky forced through the expansion of medicaid and the creation of these exchanges in his state. there are statistics from kentucky where this seems to be working, over 32,000 enrollees in medicaid, 5,000 enrolled in the qualified health care plan. so there is an example of a state that said, hey, we are going to be proactive. we will do this. we dpoot result here. in arkansas, you saw i believe 6,000 people in the first few weeks. i think what the problem that the republican party faces on litigating this issue too much a problem they ve had kind of all along, including back into the last presidential election, which is a problem of tone and what they ve wrestled with is striking that right tone. they need to realize the public does nots will like this law necessarily as much as they do. we saw this with the irs scandal an benghazi, some of the republican strategists are worried about reigning in members of congress and making, a real effort to make the party sound like it s not being to shrill on this, if they, are they will lose the strategic advantage they have with this very unpopular law. maybe the ship has sailed, too, i wonder. one of these lucky panelists is about to become a panelist on up against the clock two. of them are. it s a very special not to be missed edition of america s fastest growing abbreviated made for saturday politics and/or current events quiz show. that s coming up next. 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steve kornacki. oh, thank you, studio audience, thank you everyone for tuneing in for another thrill packed edition of up against the clock. melissa today s celebrity guest contestant. you foe the rules by now and at hope, wrong answers will cost you. there are a few instant bonuses scattered throughout these questions. as always, studio audience, i implore you, please, no outbursts, our contestants demand absolute concentration with that, i will ask you, contestants, are you ready? . we will start with 100 second on the clock in the 100 point round. we will go, 25 years ago yesterday, george h.b. bush was elected president over what dukakis. michael dukakis the defeated candidate. the next question, 3 billion, $2.5 billion or doctor 2 billion the white house released a report showing the shutdown cost how much in employee back pay, alex? c, $2 billion. doctor 2 billion is correct in back pay, try again with alex and mellissa. it took multiple calls and wrong numbers before vice president joe biden. incorrect. it took multiple calls before joe bind replaced a call to newly elected mayor. boston. according to city officials in boston, this red sox slugger came in third place on write-in votes absolutely no idea. encorrect. david ortiz. 100 point question the grandson of which former american president announced this week. jimmy carter correct, his granddon now running for governor of go. . 100 point question, new jersey governor chris christy made his prime time acting debut. nbc michael j. fox i don t know, michael j. fox show? it is. 100 points for mellissa. we will finish the question, after being declared the winner tuesday night ken cuccinelli refused to report what custom mary. call the winner. he refused to call the winner, terry mcauliffe. we go to the end of the round. mellissa, the early lead with 300 points, alex with 200. moving up from negative territory with that correct answer, but now things start to get a littlewhile wild because we move to the 200 point round. again, you are penalized. you get big points, 100 second on the clock. first 200 point question is this, sporting a nifty pair of glasses, this former candidate returned to iowa on thursday and said, if i was making a plan for 2016, coming to iowa early an often would be. rand paul. encorrect. wrong. alex. rick perry is direct correct. big twin there, a reader revolt participated the departmenture of guns and ammo after they published an editorial in favor of what, alex? gun control. 200 more points for alex. politico reported this week that this nationally ambitious tea party senator recently had private meetings with news corps rupert murdock and fox news. rand paul. that is correct. 200 points for mellissa. back with this. nine years after his death, a group of swiss scientists reported this week. arafat. yes, yasser arafat. poison was found in his remains. 200 point question, many believe the political demise of ross perrot was triggered 20 years ago this week when he delivered an erratic performance in a prime time debate. larry king, al gore? correct. cnn. incorrect. we have to deduct 200 points. finish the question. an erratic performance in a prime time debate against whom? no calls, time. al gore. the sitting vice president on larry king live. that brings us to the end of the 200 point round. alex has stormed into the lead with 600 points, maura now with 200. mellissa with 100. can you see a very volatile gain, though, especially as you introduce the ph.d. round. these are 300 point questions. this is where champions are made. we will put 100 second on the clock t. crucial final round begins with this. illinois senator mark kirk teamed up on thursday with what conservative democratic senator to introduce legislation to delay the obama care mandate one 84. alex. joe manchin of west virginia is correct. 300 point question, plans to create america s 51st state are on hold after six conservative counties on tuesday rejected a non-binding plan to 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week, alex, you have one of our highest points of all time. it puts you in a tie for second place maura with 800 points, you may still be in contention, mellissa, it was a fast start. you had an aggressive buzzer style. yes. you knew about the cnn debate. unfortunately, we didn t finish the question first. you will not leave empty hand. we have the home edition. thank you for playing today. we will see you next week for another up against the clock after this, the real show begins again. my customers can shop around . there are a lot of good explanations how george w. bush became president. the fatigue over scandals, lousy campaigns over al gore. i have a different theory. i think it s all because of the he coumb. let me take you to the fall of 1994, two years after george h. bush was bounced from office after two terms. two sons were launching careers of their own. george w. was a few-years-older the word was jeb was the one to watch. sharp intellect. someone who could dazzle the crowd. george w. he never done much. goofy, awkward, empty. rumor had it the old man saw jeb as the future president. the son who would go on to reclaim the white house for the family. w. seemed to be acting out a revenge fantasy t. they lam pooned his father at the 1988 democratic convention, she said he had been put with a silver foot in his mouth. beyond that, no one seemed too sure why he was running. in the home stretch, it looked like the public saw it. in texas, the ratings stood at 60%. voters hit a soft spot for the plain spoken incumbent. w. was the underdog. but in florida, it was a different story t. state s business lobby released a poll taken in mid-october. jeb bush 48%, lawton chiles 43% other polls showed jeb bush ahead. lawton shotz, a folksy yarn spinner 64-years-old, he looked at least ten years older than that. time was catching up. when the poll came out, it looked like it was all over. jeb is columnist wrote is charging down the home stretch like wildfire, some closest to chiles say they expect him to be coasted and are looking for job opportunities. lawton chiles was nothing if not wiley, when he got the chance to stand face to face with jeb on the same stage days before the election. he knew better than to make it a contrast between a democrat and a republican, a liberal and a conservative. he made it about culture. the floridians never get their way of life. he made it about, here s that word again, he made it about the he coumb. my mama told me sticks and stones will break my bones, names will never hurt me. let me tell you. one other thing about the old liberal, the old he coon walks just before the light of day. . the he coon according to real florida lor is a tough ornery raccoon with his might and wit defends all the other ones that will do them hard, lawton chiles pitch perfectly claiming the he coon mant el and polished son of the yankee arising tocracy and privilege a riscracy. and he ran with it. he took to wearing a coon 16 cap as he barn stormed florida in the findal hours of the campaign. you could feel the bush lead melting away. 1994 was a devastating year for democrats everywhere, florida in particular. a massive mid-term backlash, a backlash of the so-called angry white males against bill clinton and the national democratic party. the angry florida voters granted one exemption for one democrat who showed them that he got them. that he knew them. that he was one of them they re-elected the he coon. what time is it? it s just before down at the same moment that lawton chiles was declaring victory, though, a few hundred miles west, that same national republican tide was hitting texas. this one came with no special dispensations for folksiness. anne richards put up her best fight, a wha wail of a fight t. tide was too strong t. state was aching to vote against bill clinton s party, that meant a voting for george w. bush, voting for the bush brother who was never supposed to when that year. what texans can dream texans can do. so there it was, election night 94. the bush brother who was supposed to when that night and take that havingtory and use it as a springboard to a bush white house restoration was derailed. instead of going national, he spent the next years mending fences in florida, winning over the locals, to make sure the next time he ran there would be no, he coon moment. it did work. jeb got elected governor. by that point, he had been lapped by his big brother, the bush brother who was never supposed to win in the first place. because of that weird twist of fate in 1994, it was w who got to lead one of america s biggest states, flirting with presidential politics. he ba imthe vehicle, the profoundly unlikely vehicle. on the night jeb won florida in 1998, w. was getting reelected in texas by a huge margin, 38 points. so it was his plan. this was carl reserve os plan, run up the score in 98. make eye browseing inrates with latinos, with voters who had been flocking to president clinton and flocking away from the republican party. 1998 was a generally miserable year for the republican party. you probably seen the recent polls after last month s government shutdown that show the gop favorable score at an all time low. the only other time they were in that same ballpark was the end of 1998. that s when a newt gingrich led gop house that had already shut down the government and was unpopular that, has defied public opinion and led an impeachment drive against president clinton. that produced a loss for republicans in 1998, the first time since james monroe s presidency, they failed to gain seats in the second term mid-term election. this was the context of george bush s victory. it was the biggest bright spot. maybe the only bright spot in a very dark hour for the republican party. by that point they had lost the necks election to him. lost the 98 mid-terms, it was losing the impeachment fight. they were sick of losing and it was hungry to when again. it was nothing particularly ideological about it. when george bush talking up what he had done in texas, started talking up what he called compassionate conservatism, in an active way than dogma prescribed, he found a receptive audience in the party. finally he can communicate empathy to americans the way bill clinton did. after all, look what he had done in texas. this was how bush was able to spend 1999 creating the most formidable machine in the history of modern prun politics. fundraising figures were reported for the second quarter of the year. his advantage was so staggering, so shocking that it set in motion the demise of not one, not two, not three, not four, not five but six of his interparty foes before a single ballot was cast. bush did end up facing the spirited fight from john mccain in 2000 t. outcome was never in much doubt. party elets were so over wellingly on bush s side, he was able to define himself as the candidate of purity and mccain s calling card was campaign finance reform, a plan loathed by interest groups to portray him as the apostate. this upped mcclain s popularity and that alienated him more from the republican base and that cemented bush s hold on the nomination t. race was over in the first week of march, 2000. in ten months, one supreme court ruling later, george w. bush was president. all of this is the backdrop for what happened with new jersey governor chris christie this week. after what christie hopes will happen in the next three years. because it s the bush model, the george w. bush model that christie wants to emulate on the surface, the setup is almost the same. this is a low moment t. destructive impact of the shutdown and the party s general reliance on tea party rhetoric and tactics as of late helped opinion shapers. blair bare in the blue state, the state that last elected a republican to the senate more than 40 years ago, there in that very blue state is a republican governor who racked up more than 60% of the vote, nearly a third of the black vote who outpolled his female democratic opponent by 12 moints points among women. christie can say the same thing bush did 15 years ago. our party is in a bad place, but i know how to win. the republican party is also much different now than it was yooen 15 years ago. it s a twins of how his presidency ended, the rise of barak obama and the agenda the right regard is an affront to freedom. to explain how this could happen, how americans could go to the polls and willfully elect a left of center government, the right decided it had to blame george w. bush. the basic idea, that bush s compassionate conservatism ended up amounting to reckless big government. it gave conservatism a bad name that then led a confused electorate to turn to obama. it is out of this conviction the tea party was formed. both to fight obama and the republicans who would enable bush and might enable a future bush. the attitude of the republican party 15 years ago was like the old al davis saying, just win, baby. but today purity is just as important. maybe more important to the tea party right. this is what maiblg makes christie s path to the gop nomination far trickier than bush is. he is going to have to satisfy a critical chunk of that tea party right that he s one of them or at least he s close enough to being one of them and check off his name anyway. there is a school of thought is an impossible tavenlth christie literally embraced the president at the most sensitive moment in last year s presidential campaign a. charge he single handedly expanded the white house by four years could make christie a total non-starter with too many tea party years. i tend to take a less fatalistic view. look closer, you will see he is not a moderate in the way we once thought of northeast republican moderates. he s pro-life. he is staunchly anti-tax. he is happy to war with public employee unions. he is happy to veto gun control bills and vital public transportation projects. there is also this trump card. personality. now i know many people loathe christie. plenty also appreciate his swagger, especially when you are talking about the republican universe. the reason christie is a national candidate is he will lose his temper at the wrong moment, an ugly explosion that becomes his identity that sinks his campaign. the flip side though is that he is good at this game. he is a rare politician who can talk to a room of people who disagree with them an win him over. they warm up to him. laugh at his jokes, then without realizing it, they find themselves working backwards in their minds to tell them, come to think of it, it wouldn t be crazy to support it. i have seen him do this in rooms of skeptical conservatives and i absolutely could see him doing this in rooms of skeptical iowa republicans two years from now after what happened this week, how much does chris christie have to worry about the tea party and how much of the republican party? we will dive into that 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[ male announcer ] look for the easy-open red arthritis cap. . i ll tell you about chris christie s political future and how big a factor the tea party will play in his front runner status. we have policy reporter from politico.com reigning up against the clock alex and jeremy peters politics reporter for the new york times. so, you know, i m curious what you guys make sort of coming out of this week with chris christie the whole sort of debate is, yes, he is clearly electable in a blue state. he would be the worst nightmare if he were an opponent. did you see anything this week in these results? do you see things percolating right now that answers that question? could he get through a republican primary? i think in response to his victory, we got a lot of clues to that. you saw the right wing republicans in different ways being critical of him. going on the air and calling him a moderate, which is a very inside baseball way of slamming him for those looking for a candidate farther on the right. you see some clues in that. i think what they re suffering from is they are dealing with the fear of romney again, a conservative who is not conservative in his heart. he doesn t believe those things. he was for gun control before he was against it. he vetoed same-sex marriage and gave up the fight in the courts. i think that s their big concern. the same things that make him marketable in a general election could serve to be liabilities to him when it comes to getting a nomination. i try to differentiate in my head, i look back at the past year, clearly there are the hard line conservatives in the party you give the slightest hint you may be in 50 years be for gay marriage, that i will never vote for you and rick santorum will win 11 states, there are still enough states out there for romney to get through and there is still a big enough path for mitt romney. i m trying to figure out, has that path narrowed in the last year or is it sort of the same dynamic? i think it s narrowed. i think if there is anywhere the establish him and big donors can win, they can held sway in a presidential nomination race. will you have a crowded field on the right with maybe ted cruz and rand paul and others, so i think there is a big chance he can come up the middle. not to mention the fact that governors tend to do better than senators. mitt rom fiwas a moderate who attacked what i to the right. christie is a conservative at heart on unions, on climate change, on gay rights. sandy is sort of a mant el put on him. it doesn t accurately describe who he is. he can take that mant el. it might upset the base. the donor class aren t fooled by that, they re clamouring to enter 2012. i don t think this field will be that much stronger as a lot of people expected. would we call him in the term moderate is attached to chris christie reflectively. if it hadn t been for sandy and praiseing and embrace obama at the height of that, would we be calling him a moderate? his record otherwise, i remember he was the tea party hero with his first two years in office, with the ending if millionaire s tax, is it a function of saying nooigs nice things about president obama? i don t think it is. if you look at the other policy, social conservatives made a big fuss when he outlaws therapy, what they called procureing gay youngsters. the parity is there. the guns thing, mentioning not specifically legislation but saying guns should be controlled more in new jersey. obviously, he sort of backed off from that. that was what he sort of did at first. taxes, it s interesting you mentioned this, yes, the millionaire tax expired under him. he didn t knock that down. it expired. the legislature tried to extend it. he retoed it. there is an interesting undercurrent there. he ran in 2009 on a platform of tax relief, property tax relief. property taxes in new jersey are $8,000 on average, first in the country. highest in the country. they have a high income tax and competent tax. he came in, in 2009 and said, this is awful. i want to expand tax relief for the middle class. he specifically a few months after he was elected got rid of a whole bunch of tax deductions and credits targeted toward the middle class that effectively increase taxes on a whole bunch of people. i m talking hundreds of thousands of people. i talked to a few people in new jersey about this. you don t really hear much about it in the media right now. but this is something that anything that smells like a tax hike is going to be something that conservatives will attack him for in a gop primary. i could see this being something that could potentially hinder him. he promised to expand credits to scale back taxes and even the opposite, actually. this was the day after the election, a day after chris christie got reelected. he held a press conference, he s feeling good about himself, listen to what what he had to say that day. people that think that folks vote based on a checklist, only special interest groups do that. only special interest groups do that. when they put together a checklist, they see how many boxes they check. real voters don t do that. role voters get a feeling for somebody. it s emotional, visceral type of thing in my experience and they determine in their gut, can i trust this person? are they telling many ethe truth? not do they agree with me on every issue. so he s absolutely right. i want to make a very unpolitical science argument here and any political scientists out there will tell me it s ridiculous. i think personality does matter. i think the personality chris christie has is so different than a guy like mitt romney. i can see chris christie going into a group of party years. hey, he didn t fight gay marriage hard enough. i think he s that rare plichlths he s got the personality, where he can walk in that room. they can be like i don t like this guy. i want to get behind this guy. they rationalize backwards in their mind to get will. i can see voters in other states say other than new jersey responding very differently. so i would be careful about drawing too many conclusions about the electorate in new jersey and applying those to the greater primary elect terror rat. he may have won with hispanics and women overwhelmingly in new jersey. i don t know that that s going to extend to the rest of the country like it did, would that apply in ohio? i don t know that it would apply in ohio. up are talking about a state that elect rick santorum. you mean peoria? to your point, he got a third of democrats in the state, two-thirds of moderates. two-third of independents. let s look at democrats, you would presume they are against the policy ideas. they voted with him. there was a connection with him. when you talk about political skill, something that you mentioned, he is a very skillful politician. a lot comes down to people don t out reach too. he does that well? democrats in new jersey, they discovered this. they discovered it nationally. you can find all of these issues where he is out of step with where the majority of public opinion is. how much does that personality override it? democrats did not figure out new jersey and would have to figure out nationally. you know the basic debate over social security, one side says cut it. private advertise it. the other side says keep at this time way it is, but there is a growing group of democrats that want to blow off the tomorrows of that debate. we will tell you how, that is next. . 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[ engine revs ] . the debate over social security has been consistent for the last half century, on the right, they say cut it or private advertise it. this entitlement is the senior population explodes and life expectancies rise. while younger workers on a voluntary basis to take some of their own money and set it aside in the form of a personal savings account. i think it s very important that we reform our entitlement programs. my friends, we are not going to be able provide the same benefit for present day workers that present day retirees have today. it is a monstrous lie. it is a poenz scheme to tell our kids 25 or 30-years-old today, you are paying into a program that s going to be there. on the left, liberals tend to say, don t touch social security. preserve it. it s a vital part of the safety net. it will be solvent for years to come. we will protect social security. i will not private advertise it. i will not cut the benefits. i think for us to act like social security is in crisis is a republican trap. i don t believe it add aspeny to the deficit. it shouldn t be a victim of deficit reduction within it has nothing to do with the deficit. occasionally, they give voice to social security and there are plenty of democrats who express the more conservative view. a, the debate goes, that s the limit of it. those are the two polls cutting it or private advertising it on one endsh leaving it alone, preserving it on the other, which can be a problem for liberals, any compromise, any meeting point between those two polls will entail some reduction in benefits. i saw this when president obama offered chained cti, a recalculation of the social benefits formula that would have resulted in lower payouts during the grand bargain talks of 2011 and again in his budget this spring. so this is why there are now some progressive democrats in congress trying to expand the terms of debate. this week, sharod brown of ohio became the late toast put his name to increase social security benefits. that s right. in an era defined by belt tightening, liberals are trying to provide retirees with bigger monthly checks. as more democrats sign on, we are seeing the beginnings to change the social security from not wanting to preserve it but to expanding it. these are the kind of long-term efforts that can take years but redefine the agenda of a political party. at the table with us now is congressman jerry nather of new york. he is one of 39 co-sponsors of that legislation. thank you for joining us. we laid it out there. this is a debate we heard a hundred times, democrats saying, let s preserve it. make your case for why that debate is bogus and we node to be talking about expanding it? well the trust fund is 2.7 trillion. it dlb 2.4 trillion in 2025. there is no prospect of them running short in 2033 or any foreseeable future. number one, number two, we have always said retirement ought to be a three legged stool, based on pension, savings and social security. two of those legs are basically destroyed. in the private sector, there are almost no more push, a push we have to oppose, nonetheless, it s there and savings, two-third of retirees have had virtually no savings. it s like 30,000 in its 402k. with the average social security check being $40,000 a 84, if that s it, our sflrs going to be retiring to poverty. in fact, the latest statistics show that while the overall participation rate in the labor force is down, for people over 65, it is up. that moans people can t afford to retire. so we have to increase social security in order to make up for the collapse of the private sector pension system and the failure of the 401k savings. what you are up against first of all is a lot of knee jerk conventional wis do. first of all, you are up against knee jerk conventional wisdom that affects your own party. we have the example of president obama who three times has put the chained cti out there of reduceing social security benefits. where among your fellow democrats, where does that instinct come from when we are having fiscal talks, where does that come from to put social security on the table? it comes from the president, basically, there is almost a unanimous opposition to that. 100 some odd democrats have signed a letter saying, no way, know how. i don t know why the president puts this on the table. i think it s a bad mistake to do that. it s totally unnecessary, also. as i ve said, the social security, they re reported as quote gospel and come out and say we will have a shortfall of fund. that s the immediate forecast. which has always been wrong. the optimistic forecast, with i that put out every year, the optimistic forecast, which generally has been right over the last 30 years, which is never quoted by the press, says social security fluctuated for the future we can see. i wonder if you are talking about with president obama, as we all know, the communication ween the white house and members of congress is not always the greatest. so what do you see the president doing to reach out to congressional democrats to forge a solution on things? not much. that s actually what i was going to ask the president as the leader of the democratic party has proposed change cpi, which would obviously scale back the annual increases that seniors receive. i just don t see where this would go anyway, yes, people are talking about it right now. but harry reid, the senate majority loader would not put something on the senate floor for senate democrats to vote for if it goes against what the president wants. right now. we are in harry reid said he wouldn t put a changed cpi on the floor, even if the president wanted it. the bulk of the democratic caucus in the house wouldn t consider it. the fact is, it s entirely theoretical because the republicans getting increased revenues, in any deal, with i they will never do. down there is a political clax, it s the dirty word the word for clinton in the 90s, trianglation? do you think there is a trianglation as a part of we will go to the left by asking for more revenue. we will see we are to the middle on the entitlement? i don t know. i certainly hope that isn t the calculation. if that were the calculation, it would be foolish politically. every poll shows that overwhelmingly, the people do not want reductions in social security benefits or medicare benefits. overwhelmingly. if god forbid we would do this, it would be a terrible proceed to candidates if 2014 or 2016. it s politically just foolish. so why put it out there? i don t know. congressman, it seems to be politically as steve was talking about, this seems to be changing over the long term, moving the poll, expanding a bit t. white house has mostly demanded pretty much that democrats fall in loin on every piece of legislation. are they starting to understand the way the tea party opened up the right wing, liberal democrats should do the same? well, i don t know the white house has demanded democrats fall in line. are they understanding? maybe. i don t know. the fact is we are doing this. it is essential because we are seeing increaseingly that the other two retirement stools have collapsed and people cannot be expected to retire on 14 or 15 or $16,000 a year and then have a changed cpi, with i is framplgly a dishonest calculation. it understates inflation. frankly the current cpi also under states inflation. we got to increase it because the cpi, the consumer price index is fixed by saying what is a bread basket, what is a basket that people buy? how much do you spend on education, health care, et cetera? okay. how much does health care increase in costs, et cetera in the fact what the cpi says if stake gets too expensive, you switch to hamburger. that s, in other words, figuring in a reduction in your standard of living into the calculation, which i think is just wrong. now, instead, what we should lock at is a different measure him the borough of labor statistics is developing, that says, okay. for seniors, they spend more on health care than 30-year-olds. they spend less on education than 30-year-olds. we should have a senior cpi which state inflation is heavier than the current cpi does. even that wouldn t satisfy the problem. yes, that s one of the issues, the opposite of changed cpi, moving it in the opposite direction. i got to say, this is one of the reasons, you talk about 2016 sometimes, this is one of the reasons, if you are a democrat, this is an issue you care about. you hope there are lots of candidates out there. that could create the pressure for candidates to make this a priority if they get in office. it s one of the ways i m going to justify talking about 2016 sometimes. i want to thank congressman jerry nather. i appreciate it. we do not have a winner in one important race because of some incredible sleuthing by numbers experts on twitter. it s a wild story. we will tell it to you next. 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later when they said a counting error gave him 20 more votes than he received and rick santorum had been the winner there. that was before officials admitted entire precincts were missing, which led to weeks later to a startling declaration from the iowa republican party. mitt romney hadn t one the caucuses after all. rick santorum had. mistakes happen all the time it s only within they are close we realize how flawed and imperfect and human our election system is. that s the back drop playing out in virginia. we know there is a new governor elect, terry mcauliffe and a governor elect and we have absolutely no idea who will win the other race for statewide office, the race for attorney general. current republican general ken cuccinelli lost tuesday s governor s election. in that job, attorney general is important in virginia for a lot of reasons, including the bake fact it s an established launching pad for governor officially the republican ag candidate is in the lead by about 1,200 votes. those results do not tell the full story. the full story involves my kind of people, numbers obsessed political sauvants. two in particular, dave wasserman an ben trivet goes by the twitter hand him not larry sabtow. they return fairfax county. it seemed to them like not enough ab tent see ballots were counted. after they noticed, a local congressman picked up the scent, too. here s what they say happened. you can usually expect a certain percentage of people to actually use them to turn them in, to vote. fairfax county, that return rate is 88%. of the 8,000 absentee billion lots in the 8th congressional district, they were requested if fairfax only half were counted. a lot less than 88%. election officials say they believe almost 2,000 votes when unaccounted. they aren t sure yet what the right number actually is the big question is whether those numbers will be enough to take the race for attorney general. if mark herring becomes the next attorney general, that would give them the non-segregation sweep of the top three offices in both u.s. seats for the commonwealth since ever. it s never happened before. so it s interesting to me because the attorney general in virginia, ted cuccinelli gave us a case study in why it is important from a policy whole o idea began with ken cuccinelli. ken cuccinelli used that to make himself a rising republican national star, to become the nominee for virginia, so obviously the outcome of this race is important. it makes a symbolic statement if democrats win it. it s shocking, we shouldn t be shocked, we ve seen this before, but we have no idea who s won this race. and the attorney general s race is really where a lot of the attention focused towards the end of the race as it became clear that ken cuccinelli was probably not going to be able to fill it out. republicans shifted a lot of money into the race, democrats did, too. one basically predicted exactly how it went down. mcauliffe underperform manager the polls. the attorney general s going to be the squeaker and that s going to be the important one because you can attribute the cuccinelli to attribute lieutenant governor to e.w. jackson, hardly a qualified candidate. but this is going to be a real test of the parties and a big signal of where the regime is headed. election officials have said clearly there s something wrong here. they were expects more than 7,000 of these ballots to come back and they only got like 5200. so i think now it s going to be quite a bit longer before we know the results because we re almost certainly looking at a recount, it could end up in the courts as both sides decide which votes they want in and which they want out. it could be a while before we know the outcome. we re talking about it coming down to fairfax county, northern virginia, and that s where the election of that story was. big early lead for ken cuccinelli, then that northern friendly blue part of the state comes in and changes everything. we ll find out 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