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[ theme ] stephanie: happy wednesday everybody. jacki schechner, you know i have so few things in my life. look how happy i am about my new coffee mug. what does it say? stephanie: it is green in time for st. patrick s day. ooh. does that mean there s no pinch ug? stephanie: here now is colin farrell. messing about with mrs. all the rumors are true. i got about a third of that. then again if he looks like colin farrell, it doesn t matter. stephanie: all right. now here we are. we re getting lucky. jacki, news clover leaf. good morning everybody. president obama s got a busy day today. after his morning briefing in the oval office, he s going to head up to the hill to meet with house republicans for the first time since june of 2011. the goal now is to find some sort of compromise deficit reduction deal before the summer. but president obama is expected in this meeting to bring up other items including gun control, raising the minimum wage and cyber security. when it comes to finding a deal on the deficit, the hill reports some senate democrats fear they will make too many concessions which is not an unreasonable concern considering the way he s negotiated in the past. president obama comes back to the white house this afternoon to meet with secretary of state john kerry then a group of private sector ceos to talk about cyber security. afterwards, it is another meeting with business leaders this time to discuss immigration reform. a meeting with new treasury secretary jack lew and over to the st. regis hotel where he will give a speech to organizing for action. that s a nonprofit that emerged out of his re-election campaign. and today is the first full day of the papal conclave. black smoke rose from the chimney of the sistine chapel yesterday evening and again this morning indicating no 2/3 consensus yet from the 115 cardinals gathered inside. there will be four votes a day until one cardinal gets enough votes to win the papacy. we will see smoke again this afternoon. it comes from the burning of the ballots. wet straw used to be used to turn the ballots black but now they use a chemical instead. we re likely to see black smoke for awhile because again there is no front-runner as of yet. back with more show after the break. stay with us. 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[ whatever! ] stephanie: hey everybody it s hump days with sexy liberal hal sparks. joe in sewer cues, steph and staff, some days you re panel. some days you re staff. some days you re mooks. i m so happy to hear you talk about the l.a. times ran an article about who we should pay attention to when jon stewart takes the summer off. you rank number three in the article. we re number three. see how later our favorite republican campaign funders show an interest in buying the l.a. times. [ dramatic ] what? that calls for double drama. [ dramatic ] what? stephanie: okay. that s true. throwing out a little conspiracy theory. it is true. stephanie: the talker s list came out. talk show host in america. we re number 12. we re number 12. i m number 12. weren t we number 36 before? stephanie: we re movin on up. on the east side? stephanie: i m the number 12 most important something in the i don t know. i want my full newspaper coverage. i want magazine stories. i want books. i want films. i want tv. i want radio. i want us on the air 24 hours a day! this is our moment! who did you beat? stephanie: howard stern beat me by one. he s 11. bastard person. [ buzzer ] well, if we had more naked chicks. stephanie: like wednesday where we had hot brie and wonderwoman. did you beat laura ing gram? stephanie: i did. she s mad this morning. stephanie: yeah, who s mad. you don t even care. you go down who s lower. you re like oh, they will be this morning. damn it. stephanie: she said that once. i ve been doing radio 25 years. right. stephanie: i stole her shtick. and i worked on your previous show before she started her show. i tune into the first day of her show. that sounds a lot like what we used to do on the stephanie miller show. stephanie: couple of guy sidekicks. funny that. you guys can do the laura orgasm in honor of me being so many slots bo. [ applause ] stephanie: like when you blow your diet, oh, screw it. just eat this whole bag of snickers. stephanie: we do have no information on whether or not laura ingraham likes her hair pulled during sex. we apologize if she does not. wouldn t surprise me. stephanie: please don t do it without asking her. right. stephanie: okay. you know, just go a little over the line. you know that kind of thing. with sexual horseplay and what not. there is a line where it is hot and then [ buzzer ] ouch. now you just pulled out a clump and you called me a whore. if horses are involved, you definitely cross adeline. yeah, that s stephanie: i didn t even actual horses when i said horseplay. in tijuana after all. [ speaking spanish ] stephanie: all right. you know, it is right before vacation. i don t know where you all are going. i do not recommend the black sea. you know why? military dolphins there with guns attached to their freakin heads and they ve gone missin . i have one simple request and that is to have sharks with freakin laser beams attached to their heads. these are dolphins. how can you be armed if you don t have arms? stephanie: what s that, flipper? shoot me in the head? they know what they re doing. can they pull the trigger? mentally. stephanie: i don t know if it is in their blowhole or what. the ukraines, maybe notoriously accurate. hey, they have reportedly put out an apb for three dolphins that have gone missing in the black sea. what? they ve gone rogue. stephanie: three dolphins have gone rogue. dangerous. gawker writes did i mention these are military dolphins who may have firearms and knives strapped to their bodies? knives? can you shoot a gun underwater? stephanie: i don t know. experts believe the three bulls had fallen under the spell of nearby females. chicks are to blame. and were driven away by the training grounds by their biological urges. notoriously horny. i ve known surfers who say they re very rapey dolphins. they get a little freaky with surfers and stuff and divers. lady on the street and a freak in the bed. stephanie: the dolphin scientist guy, the way he s identified by gawker. greg. dolphin scientist guy? stephanie: he s a dolphin scientist. if you re planning a family holiday to the black sea, it is best you avoid any friendly dolphins especially if they have knives or pistols strapped to their heads. how do you strap a pistol to a dolphin s head? very carefully. [ circus ] stephanie: all right. all right. we ll talk to the rockin congresswoman from the great state of illinois, representative jan schakowsky. i don t know about you but i can t stand this sequestration. i really can t. i m sick of the sequestration it s given me some frustrations i m sick of the sequestration i m sick of the sequestration that is as elaborate as the original recording. stephanie: rocky mountain mike. he s the only one doing real work for this show which is ironic because we pay him nothing. as long as he dishoo end up how brian ended up. brian went crazy. stephanie: i understand. okay. did i tell you i met him? he did my country morning radio show and he he was a little out of it. we were talking to him and then during a commercial break, he looked at his manager and said are we really here? is this really happening? oh. [ wah wah ] it was amazing to meet him but wow yeah. stephanie: a lot of producers whispering under their breath. talk quietly to brian. don t make any sudden moves. stephanie: might be a dolphin with a pistol strapped to its head. he s not sure what s happening. it is mostly old time radio story. i talked to brother this morning. i m the former sister sleaze from rochester new york. home of rock n roll. they ain t related. you know why he called? because he has mercury poisoning i said i m a lesbian. he said we eat the same thing. so it was a whole oh, you little stephanie: we worked together for many years. it was a little impromptu bit. i did have and so i was going to give advice. i had so much mercury up my ass i could take my own temperature. you remember. you were sluggish. [ circus ] stephanie: difference between being drunk and that. you were like jeremy piven sluggish. stephanie: i had to drop out of my broadway play. apparently didn t go for booze or dope or mercury on broadway. i couldn t even remember what to tell him. i had to stop eating fish for awhile. a few weeks. then i had chelation therapy. you were in new york when this happened, weren t you? stephanie: no. everything else bad that happened to me was in new york. that was the only bad thing that happened here. all right. stephanie: broken foot, all of that stuff. new york chewed me up, spit me out. you broke your foot just before you came back here. stephanie: new york rejected me like a bad organ. almost took your eye out. stephanie: we started calling it a move. then we called it a trip. then we called it the death march. stephanie: one of the many disasters, mistakes in your life. we have sexy liberal hal sparks live in studio who will be with me april 13th, chicago theatre, tickets going quickly for that. it is upon us, kids. the april 13th sexy liberal. much more as we continue on the stephanie miller show. to be honest, i ve never seen such dysfunction. announcer: it s the stephanie miller show. 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(vo) she s joy behar. current will let me say anything. i shot the sheriff but i did not shoot announcer: stephanie miller. i shot the sheriff but i didn t shoot announcer: stephanie miller. stephanie: it is the stephanie miller show. a fabulous jacki s healthcare corner at the top of the hour and representative jan schakowsky two rockin women in one hour. then we have a rockin dude in hour three. stephanie: sexy liberal hal sparks right there. literally a rockin dude. stephanie: zero one. i once called his band zero dark thirty. [ buzzer ] he was not he is not in a terrorist band of any kind. i got an immediate text from him when you said that. no one was waterboarded during the show. stephanie: he can say everything i say even when i m not on the air. i don t know how. lee in las vegas you re on the stephanie miller show. hey, lee. caller: hi, steph. i really enjoy your show. i would just like to talk about this sequestration weeddy munster weeddy munster. this is a joke, steph! why don t the republicans each day spend a couple of minutes saying the only thing the republicans want to do is do away with the big three and point it out on a daily basis and they don t want to come halfway. and just keep doing it and doing it and doing it. 65-year-old people who vote for the republicans, you let them know. stephanie: i know. take away the big three. stephanie: that s exactly right, lee. it is a joke. it is a complete joke. the budget, it is just laughable. you shouldn t even take this seriously. the fact that they just lost the election running on these same ideas. literally it is serious. isn t that wonderful eddie? i won t go, i won t i won t i won t! yes you will. stephanie: how about a cootie catcher? no. that s the same thing you lost on! stephanie: nancy pelosi blasted his budget arguing a budget protects the wealthiest at the expense of the middle class is based on fuzzy republican math. what s your point? they re the job creators. stephanie: nothing but more of the same pelosi says it protects the wealthiest at the expense of the middle class so it is still undermining the health and economic security of the elderly and ends the medicare guarantee and just costs to seniors. stephanie: i m not nancy pelosi. please don t attack me. pelosi attacked ryan for savings in obamacare. it is an exercise in contradictions. republicans repealed the affordable care act. it really is. i ll hit you with my widow s peak. stephanie: i hope somebody plays the clips back from the campaign when they interview him. you just said this. no, i didn t. that wasn t me. stephanie: nancy pelosi yesterday by the way speaking of the budget munster. the point of it is to take trophies, that doesn t save money. it is a trophy. but it is not a solution. i want to clear her throat for her. stephanie: i want to send her a therabreath lozenge compliments of stephanie miller. what was i going to say? paul krugman wrote a piece about that. saying that exact same thing. that s all they re doing. the bankrupt paul krugman? stephanie: did you get that newsbusters? ooh he s bankrupt. i knew it! stephanie: that was a satire headline. dummies. breitbart. what was i saying? that is. that s it. that is this whole plan. they want to destroy social security and medicare. you want to save it by destroying it. stephanie: kordell in north carolina. caller: hey, guys this is the screenwriter for the stephanie miller show. i ve been so very busy. i had to call in when i found out what they re thinking about doing from social security and medicare. if i get a little emotional i do apologize because you know, with without social security and medicare, i don t know if i would even be here right now. it has saved me for the last decade. stephanie: yeah. caller: i rely on it to get by, to help pay expenses, to help take care of my health and the fact that they want to make changes. stephanie: a lot of people are calling in that are emotional about this and they should be. we can t say it enough. it is repetitive but the fact that they re not entitlements. we re entitled to them because we paid into them, it is it s been our bargain or our deal with the government for how many many years right? caller: exactly. you know, i m getting sick of these millionaire lawmakers who have no idea what we have to go through on a daily basis, the pain that we suffer just trying to make it from day to day where you know, they re comfortable. they have these insane health benefits and they re going to want to take what little we have. that s just not fair to us. stephanie: i hear you honey. hang in there. the president talking about the budget. obama: my goal is not to chase a balanced budget just for the sake of balance. my goal is how do we grow the economy, put people back to work and if we do that, we ll be bringing in more revenue if we ve controlled spending and we ve got a smart entitlement package, then potentially what you have is balance but it is not balance on the backs of the poor the elderly students who need student loans families who have got disabled kids. that s not the right way to balance our budget. stay away from entitlement reform because it is a fraud. stephanie: yeah. [ jeopardy theme ] stephanie: jim, guess what s good about paul ryan s budget? nothing. stephanie: guess what s bad about paul ryan s budget? everything. wow! you got two in a row right! unusual. stephanie: i did that with a sledgehammer. would you like the fun facts that think progress brings us the five worst things. i m not going to go into the details. number one huge tax cuts to the rich and corporations. there is a shock. number two forces seniors to pay more for healthcare. number three cuts food stamps. that sounds crap tastic. it is. premium support. it has a fancy title so it s good. stephanie: all right, eddie. we believe we owe the american people a balanced budget. for the third straight year, we ve delivered. in fact, we balanced this budget in just ten years. this is a document stephanie: how did you do that? balance the budget in ten years. stephanie: how did you do that? [ jeopardy theme ] on the medicare savings you ran against that are in there and then also presupposes repealing obamacare which even chris wallace says is a bunch of bull. tax increases that you voted against. that s the other [ applause ] stephanie: wowee. we balanced a budget in my mind. stephanie: it really is that he takes half of the things the president did. i went like this with my hands. medicare and healthcare and then a guy did this. see what did i? look what i did. real good what you did. good what you did eddie. stephanie: 29 minutes after the hour. right-wing world next on the stephanie miller show. billy zane stars in barabbas. coming in march to reelz. to find reelz in your area, go to reelz.com while your carpets may appear clean. it s scary how much dirt your vacuum can leave behind. add resolve deep clean powder before you vacuum to expel the dirt within your carpets. resolve s deep clean powder is moist. absorbing and lifting three times more dirt than vacuuming alone. leaving you with a carpet that s truly fresh and clean. don t just vacuum clean. resolve clean. now find the most hard core driver in america. that guy, put him in it. what s this? 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[dana loesch squealing] stephanie: all right. only reason we just look to see who s lower. i was looking at the list. they ll give anybody a talk show. herman cain is on that list. stephanie: have you ever done radio? no. here is a show. call it the herp derp show. stephanie in illinois, you re on the stephanie miller show. hi steph. caller: hi. i haven t talked to you guys in awhile. i m in corn country. stephanie: go ahead. no one is between 70% and 80% of this country. if you have 1500 or less, most people make minimum wage. and then we re losing down here we have something that covers the whole county. we re going to lose that if they don t get funding doing this sequestration. plus most of the high schools you ve got kids driving. they have to take school buses that live 20 miles from the high schools and the problem is with them cutting the funding the schools are shutting down the programs just to pay for busing to get the kids to school and everything else has to go. the only money coming in is for the corporate farmers. no one is getting money. stephanie: steph, that s a great point. scott in texas you re on the stephanie miller show. hi scott. caller: good morning, mama. stephanie: hello. caller: hi, mooks. steph, thank you for your show. and on the budget, i got an idea. actually, i stole this from randi rhodes. transaction fee on each stop market transaction to create billions. nobody would be affected. it would help reduce the deficit. help pay down the debt. one last request we have a big progressive base here. stephanie: i will put that on my list of things to do. thank you, scott. 36 after. i couldn t hear the whole plan but there you go. let s dive into the right-wing world and see what s doing. [ circus ] stephanie: mark levin. what number did he come in? i didn t see him on the list. herman cain beat him. they pull off the effects of the massively expanded medicaid program but they expand the definition of poor to more and more people on the government bowl. and this is why when you re republican governors like krispy kreme signing on to this, it is going to be financially ruinous for your states. absolutely financially ruinous. they ll be gone. i m a conservative. when do i get to speak at cpac? have a doughnut and shut up. stephanie: wow. that was mark levin making fun of someone else s looks. well, that was just spectacular. referring to governor chris christie as governor krispy kreme. mark levin is not exactly kate moss. stephanie: i think he sits at home stroking sean hannity s books. precious. my precious. i love that chiseled chin. eww stop. that s an elf isn t it? stephanie: sean hannity is precious. precious. oh, you really sold the movie to me now! stephanie: that was weird. okay. brian kilmeade on fox and friends. paul ryan saying his idea in his budget is to eliminate obamacare, that s not practical. even though you might want it, the supreme court has spoken. that s never going to fly. because he heard chris wallace say that. stephanie: the smart guy on sunday says this. so i will say it, too. stephanie: people are saying i m dumb and i m startled by the sun coming up. the one guy is an actual journalist on fox. shepherd smith. stephanie: i m surprised he s still on. very good coverage of 9-11. they were at the pentagon before the wall collapsed. stephanie: wow. laura ingraham or as we call her, number 17. [ laughter ] stop it! the public is still against what obama care is doing to the healthcare system. i think paul ryan sees that even in some democrat states, they re seeing what s going to happen in a state like massachusetts. i think ryan thinks he has some philosophical space to move in there. and again a lot of reasons why he s putting that in there. stephanie: i see. even though the american people she s wrong. the american people voted for it. what paul ryan? what bubble does she live in? stephanie: why didn t he just put in farting unicorns? glittered farting unicorns. that ain t gonna happen either. or glitter farting rafalca. rafalca is no longer with us. stephanie: the stephanie miller show does not have any information on the whereabouts of rafalca. maybe they re passing her off as calamari. stephanie: campaign prop. glue now. what? it lost as badly as mitt romney did. worse. stephanie: breaking news while i m eating in the morning. a lot of people are eating. we probably shouldn t do this. stephanie: don t have the calamari. trust whatever they tell you it is, it is actually what they re representing it as because you really don t want to know. you really don t want to know what they sometimes substitute for calamari. stephanie: you don t feel like we should say now because somebody spit out a mouthful of calamari. eating then cover your ears for a second. often times it is actually drumroll, please we don t have that. piganous. pig anus. [ buzzer ] stephanie: the thing you did is gross. calamari is a little more open. piganus is more open. it is hard to get the taste out you have to wash it in lye. stephanie: you re turning me into a character on south park. is it stan? barfed every time he saw a pretty girl? stephanie: that s me, too. how did we get sidetracked into that? stephanie: that s hard to get out of your head once someone brings that up. we were talking about the what happened to rafalca. stephanie: now i m thinking about pig sphincter. you said closed. was it really nervous when it died? well, yeah. stephanie: okay. someone in the chat room said that is really not kosher. [ laughter ] literally. wow. stephanie: and back to the show. jim demint, heritage foundation president. american family radio. what they understand on the liberal side is that the failures of their policies actually have empowered them to actually advance their policies. crisis allows the president to reconfigure our whole economic and cultural system to redistribute the wealth the way secular socialistic view versus what i see a faith in freedom view. polar opposites. so folks wonder why we can t compromise. when one person s gone in a completely opposite direction it s hard to work with them. stephanie: when you re anti-faith and freedom as the president is. sure. the economic crisis started under george w. bush nimrod! when jim demint was in the senate. so thank you jim. stephanie: how are all of the demints doing that got elected? now with receipt sin. stephanie: megan kelly and chris. he s fox news online s pollster. stephanie: okay. 48% of voters have a favorable impression of him. 48% have unfavorable. it is tied up. that s unusual for this president. well, the stimulus scare owe lempics didn t do much for the public and when they had to say never mind, this stuff wasn t real. it was something that we were talking about that could be true. i think that that probably accounts for a lot of frustration for people who have generally seen him as an honest guy. maybe they don t agree with everything but they ve thought of him as an honest guy. what s frustrating is that he s caving to the republicans again. stephanie: he s not doing anything yet! offering up entitlement reform i think it is just wrong. what s with the use of the term scare-olympics. stephanie: did he put a hashtag in front of it? what i ve seen in the last four years is someone who has a disdain, i believe for jewish people. references to rich people, the constant we gotta pay our fair share. it is like they re talking about rep arations. it does need one to thing. we should be allowed to talk about it too. white people should be able to raise these issues like black people raised them over the years in terms of racism. i believe that this guy has a ting of racism toward whites and i believe even though he s half white. he wants to pay rep aerations. i don t think he likes people with faith. stephanie: wait a minute. isn t he the one that just used the jewish stereotype? he s talking about the rich? [ buzzer ] that was like that was like road flare mary. stephanie: wait a minute! [ scooby-doo s huh? ] stephanie: wow. all right. that was a spectacular right-wing world. [ applause ] stephanie: all right. oh, i told jim i was telling jim off the air that the phone message he left me about road flare mary which is not for air no, no, no, no! stephanie: melissa fitzgerald and i were in the car together and we were laughing so hard we almost peed ourselves. i couldn t even send it to you to bleep it. all right. okay. stephanie: it would have been one long bleep bleep bleep, bleep. you erased it. stephanie: i didn t mean to. i m a technophobe. anyway. it is lost. just hang up. stephanie: all right. 46 minutes after the hour. delete, hangup, same thing right? stephanie: oops. i still don t know how to hold the call and take the other call. there is a button that says stephanie: see. there is a button that says it couldn t be more clear. seriously! stephanie: 46 minutes after the hour. right back on the stephanie miller show. it is a happening spot. announcer: it s the stephanie miller show. this show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them, right? tonight at 6 eastern [ male announcer ] here s a word you should keep in mind. unbiased. some brokerage firms are. but way too many aren t. why? because selling their funds makes them more money. which makes you wonder isn t that a conflict? search proprietary mutual funds. yikes! then go to e-trade. we ve got over 8,000 mutual funds, and not one of them has our name on it. we re in the business of finding the right investments for you. e-trade. less for us. more for you. the fund s prospectus contains its investment objectives, risks, charges, expenses and other important information and should be read and considered carefully before investing. for a current prospectus visit etrade.com/mutualfunds. 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[ world news tonight ] by the way, i m loving me some daily beast, right? they re awesome. stephanie: it is my new thing, baby. michael tomasky. is he your new man? stephanie: he s my new man. handsome and romantic. just what you guys have been talking about. how obama should respond to ryan because paul ryan is a ridiculous. b, his budget is more douche tastic than his last two. stephanie: and crap tastic in addition. [ world news tonight ] paul ryan s views are brutal. he assumes it reverses his position from last year on $1676 billion medicare savings. it doesn t pass the laugh test. even so something tells me when the plan is released, the serious people will applaud the president and that makes this week probably the most important week in his presidency for obama to refuse to do that. this is what i was saying. how many times can paul krugman scream it? the deficit is going down. it is not the problem. if we if we do austerity now we are going to end up like greece. the economy is getting better. therefore, more tax money will come into the coffers and improve things. stephanie: guess what improves the deficit when the economy improves. stephanie: michael writes what you really saw was not to egg washington toward deficit hawkry but to cuts he doesn t like. social security, medicaid, medicare. keep the air clean and perform the bothersome functions. that s ryan s game. that s his whole game. and he says michael writes jobs are still our biggest problem as paul krugman documented, deaths are decreasing quite rapidly. it is tumbling down. the one thing that will make it tumble down further is putting more people to work, spurring more economictivity. the february jobs numbers were great but a 7.7% employment rate is too high. by wednesday afternoon ryan will upset their hearts aflutter and pressure will mount to develop a ten-year plan of his own. that s the one thing [ battle hymn of republic ] i like this guy. that s the one thing he must not do under any circumstances. acknowledge the deficit is a problem. obama needs to take steps toward bringing it down more but also whiling i will not hop on the deficit hysteria bandwagon. i believe the most important order of business is for me to create more jobs, first for the obvious reason we want more people working. second stronger economy will lower the deficit more quickly and reliably than anything else. why is no one saying that? yes, i want to get the deficit under control. i m the president. no combination of people is going to bully me into accepting their agenda or timetabling. obama can t spend the last three years playing ball on paul ryan s home field. stephanie: especially a little dork with a turned around baseball cap. he doesn t wear his cap right. and lifting a 700 pound weight interest curves. [ laughter ] stephanie: my advice to people is to go to the g.o.p. and implore them to play ball because they re not. obama can t spend the last three years of his presidency playing ball on paul ryan s home field. this is a week to draw his line in the sand and tell the establishment who s in charge. not who s who. who s who and what s what. it happened in fdr. he listened to the deficit hawks and almost undermined the whole deal. stephanie: jacki s healthcare corner next on the stephanie miller show. [ theme ] stephanie: oh my god it s almost time for jacki s healthcare corner. i m really nervous. irma gird. how about you, nurse jacki? it is very, very important stuff because the healthcare laws, stuff is starting to happen and people have lot of questions. there was a great piece in the l.a. times about it. also, i wanted to talk to you about a south carolina legislator who forgot to use his inside voice. he said it s good politics to oppose the black guy in the white house right now especially for the republican party. [ buzzer ] he did not! stephanie: you re not supposed to say that. you re supposed to think that. not good. not even good to think it. no, it s not. stephanie: that guy is a doctor. we ll talk about that. oh, dear. stephanie: that s late for you, jim. a hitler reverance. jacki schechner first in her news hat and then with us. good morning, everybody. i m not inclined to promote other networks or shows but we are going to get our first look at and be able to hear from the person who recorded mitt romney s 47% remarks tonight. we do know from an early huffington post teaser is the man is a bartender who worked for a company that served high-end clientele. he decided to bring his camera to the romney event because of a previous encounter with president bill clinton. the bartender had worked at a fund-raiser once before where clinton gave a speech. afterwards, he came back to the kitchen to thank the staff and the service crew and shake hands and take pictures. the bartender thought romney might do the same. well, instead, romney was late coming in and rushed right out and there was no opportunity. he didn t thank anyone. he told the guests the event was off the record but he didn t say anything to the servers. that s when the bartender put the camera on the bar and hit record. he felt it was his civic duty to publicize mitt romney s remarks once he heard what the man had to say. that bartender is on twitter already at anonymous 670. he gives his first interview tonight with ed schultz. the boy scout of america is serving its members to find out how they feel about the anti-gay policy. it sent out a questionnaire to 1.1 million adult scouts with made up scenarios would it be okay for an openly gay scout to tent with a straight scout. the national council will vote in may whether to amend or rescind the organization s ban on gay scouts and leaders. we re back with more show after the break. i ll call in and do healthcare corner for you. see you on the other side. 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[ magic wand ] stephaniemiller.com the web site. sexyliberal.com. sexy liberal hal sparks there for hour number three. tickets going fast. let s do a corner. let s do it. come on, get jacki stephanie: good morning jacki schechner. good morning. stephanie: i actually we were making fun of mark levin saying he s like golam. we think that he strokes sean hannity s books. i was pointing out your delightful bone structure which makes you so beautiful on tv. aren t you a sweetie. stephanie: look at my precious and how her bone structure is. creepy. i was touching you. but steph makes this amazing popcorn mix. stephanie: oh can i have some recipe music. the popcorn was a distraction from the weird petting. stephanie: that s why you endured. i didn t mind because the popcorn was so good. i must have asked her eight times how you make it as if i m going to make it. anyone who knows me know i don t cook. stephanie: i use truffle oil and garlic oil. i use weird oils. and some cheese. like parmesan? stephanie: yes. i use parmesan and then i use that popcorn the cheese flavored popcorn salt that sticks on it. the stupid yellow colored stephanie: no. white. cheddar kind of thing. she s classier than that. stephanie: truffle salt. and parmesan cheese. it is delicious. thank you for bringing that up. you know what else would be good on that? lowery s seasoning salt. stephanie: jacki. now we all need healthcare. my blood pressure went up 20 points just listening to it. stephanie: south carolina legislator forgets to use his inside voice. they gathered to expand medicaid eligibility under the affordable care act. representative chris crawford, a republican from florence, also an e.r. room doctor supports the expansion but expects the republican caucus to vote against the expansion. it is good politics to oppose the black guy in the white house right now especially for the republican party. but he believes in expansion. stephanie: and he s a doctor. and yet he s that s the part you re not supposed to say outloud. stephanie: i m a doctor. i know it is a good thing but a lot of people don t like the black guy. [ buzzer ] what did i say? chose terry schiavo over television. stephanie: obamacare s other plus in the l.a. times. this is important because all of the stuff is starting to happen. the whole you know, the stuff we do on the show with you is part of it. educating people will be a big part of whether this works right? it will be huge. i think we need to be really honest about the heavy lift here because what we re doing is talking about hur healthcare system. this won t be an easy task. i think the government is working on it. the private sector folks working on it know there will be a lot of work put into this. we re talking about rolling them in these exchanges. a lot is salary-based. you get a government subsidy. it works on a sliding scale. there s a lot of information that has to be gathered and sorted and verified. stephanie: right. we were saying as we talked about this whole way a lot of republicans have a lot of interest in installing fear and confusion in the republican states and that s what this article is talking about. how this is enacted. it was interesting jacki probably read this part. they made the analogy to when we passed civil rights legislation women s rights, voting rights. it also took people getting activated to it is not just passing the law right? it is making it work. that s a hard thing to do. it is a very difficult thing to mobilize the uninsured. it is a very difficult thing to mobilize the disenfranchised. we have to, at some point reach a critical mass which is what i think we did with a lot of the big civil rights movements in history. it is tricky because if it is no one demographic. you end up with people who don t have enough money to buy health insurance. other people have lost their jobs. they have a pre-existing conditions and they can t afford it. it comes down to cost a lot of times. but it is very difficult thing to do. it is a constituency that is very challenging to organize. it is something we tried to do when we were with healthcare for america now and we were trying to mobilize against the insurance industry and against the drug companies. you have to somehow get all of the people together and it is a very challenging task. stephanie: yep. you know, nelson lickin stein writes the affordable care act may well promise uninsured americans a lot more than cheap medical care. the millions of poor people who are alienated by strengthing the organizations that give them a voice. he says this year more than 30 million uninsured americans will begin signing up for obamacare but the vast majority of those eligible for the subsidized private health insurance through state health exchanges have no idea how to enroll. so that s part of right when people call in to ask you questions. a lot of it is going to be public relations. a lot of this is going to be hhs making outreach. it will be private organizations. like nonprofits like families u.s.a. or you know, some of the other organizations that worked solely on healthcare issues. being able to train volunteers to get the personnel in place to be able to talk people through it. same way we try to talk people through medicare. when older folks enroll in medicare, a lot of times they need help. stephanie: that s right. this survey is not good. up to 3/4 of americans who might benefit are skeptical the law can provide high quality insurance coverage. this is dangerous, he writes not only for their health but for the viability of the law. because this is what we ve been saying over and over. he writes fear, confusion ignorance among millions of potential beneficiaries can doom the reform. obamacare s success depends on the maximum participation. as you ve said to us, if too few health which people purchase insurance through the state exchanges, not only will the flow to doctors and clinics prove inadequate but companies will be providing coverage for too many of the old the ill and the des per it s and insurance rates will skyrocket. it is obviously important for the whole success of affordable care act right? yeah. need to participate and educate themselves. there are two components of this that is good. one is that the states have elected out of doing this themselves. so the uniformity of the federal exchange will help in a lot of states. i think at this point, it is more than half of the states that are going to be controlled by federal exchange. the states said they don t want to do it by themselves. there are some that will be in partnership. some of the states have decided to take this on by themselves and some will do it very well. there are some states that have an infrastructure in place. the other thing is that if they take leave from massachusetts, which did a big p.r. push to get people enrolled in their state insurance exchange, if i m not mistaken, they use the red sox in that to be able to encourage people and a public service announcement effort to get people to enroll. if states are clever about it or the federal government is clever about it stephanie: i was just going to say, this one he mentions, enroll america is going to launch a media blitz this summer designed to explain how the new law works and what subsidies are available for working families because i think you know, you re right. people will be confused. they re like is my state different? how do i get it? i might have to do double duty here. and work on that on the side. oh, boy! i think the problem is, too a lot of people forget this is complicated stuff. what we need to do is make it more palatable and easier to understand for people so if they re going to go online, it is in plain language. it is an easy process. there was an article about how difficult this seems to be at the outset and it is going to be complicated. it is good to try now and get feedback and tear it down pare it down as much as we can. stephanie: alan in wisconsin, you re on with jacki. go ahead. caller: good morning. good morning. caller: scott walker has refused medicaid expansion and he refuses to set up the exchanges and i m a retired veteran on social security and my wife has a serious thyroid condition. and my question is when she does get kicked off, is that pre-existing condition clause already available or does she have to wait until january 1st or what s the deal with that? do you know? you know, it is tricky. you would have to look at the state of wisconsin in particular. because some of the states have set up the high-risk insurance pools which would offer some form of insurance for somebody who has a pre-existing condition before the limitations go away. the problem with those in general is the premiums tend to be high and the coverage tends to be pretty bare. it is a challenge. i think that the biggest challenge right now is this waiting period. we do have to wait until these exchanges are they ll be open for enrollment beginning of october but they won t be up and running until january. it is a challenge. i think it is indicative of the problem we have with our healthcare system currently. that s one of the things we have to keep in mind. you can t blame reform form the problems we have now because reform has been put into place to fix them. we still have a lot of problems to overcome. stephanie: main problem is to fix scott walker. caller: ershe has refused high-speed rail. stephanie: he s a disgrace. caller: he s reducing medicaid. he s making it smaller. stephanie: he s a disgrace, that guy. worker s rights. don t even get me started. he and rick scott have the market cornered on d bad governors. go, jacki. stephanie: she close with a d-bag. love you bye! stop it. okay 17 minutes after the hour. you activated jim and my s inner gollum this morning. i love my carbonite. carbonite backs up everything in my computer, you know. seriously. you know i ve spilled chardonnay on my laptop. yes! at least it wasn t rose. stephanie: no. that would have been tacky. 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(vo) she s joy behar. current will let me say anything. dig if you will the picture you and i engage in a kiss the sweat of the body covers me can you my darling can you picture this stephanie: 24 minutes after the hour. what s that we were just listening to. there was a concerned minnesota father. mike frye. testifying at a minnesota state house hearing on gay marriage. he explained what happens to stephanie: yes. what happens during gay sex. and straight sex. no, no straight people. stephanie: 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. he didn t mention the lesbian sex. stephanie: he s like that s hot. the other thing is gross. donna in oklahoma. you re on the stephanie miller show. hi donna. caller: hi, stephanie. good morning. stephanie: good morning. caller: i just found out this morning that oklahoma, i didn t know they were looking into this but apparently they re one step closer to passing where teachers can carry guns in schools. i m wondering if that passes, does that mean every school has to follow that or can schools set their own guidelines and say no? stephanie: it is such a ridiculous idea. they re talking about forcing teachers to carry guns whether they want to or not. insane. it is so depressing. i feel like a super liberal. i m in oklahoma so you know what that must feel like. i feel like we re losing, you know. just to all of these small states and their governors and their republicans. stephanie: i don t know if it is a reaction to the president s landslide victory. re-electing gaining bigger senate majority. one and a half more million people voting for democrats for the house than republicans, i don t know, donna but you re right. the states, it is like they re going crazy froot loops, right wing nuts. aren t they? caller: yes. it is scary. i don t know what my i know i have some crazy teachers in school. my son has had a couple so far. and i would hate for them to have a gun. stephanie: we ve discussed our personal teachers. starting with the one with the lazy eye. dr. hunsaker. caller: oh, gosh, i just lost my train of thought. stephanie: it doesn t make any sense because to be prepared, you have to have it on you like rambo. caller: exactly. proficiency training. caller: just like a gun in your home to. have it ready, you need it ready, loaded, right next to you. stephanie: what do you think? is there going to be more accidents and tragedies? absolutely. it is just their answer is not more guns. more people carrying. so depressing. stephanie: all right. best of luck to you in oklahoma. you re on your own. love you. it is tough to be progressive in a red state. i ve been one. stephanie: i know, right. oklahoma stephanie: close the drapes so people can t see current on. don t tell them. you re my precious. you re all i have in oklahoma. i stroke the tv. neither one of you have lived in a red state. have i? stephanie: yeah, you re right. okay. the defense rests. ron in indiana you re on the stephanie miller show. hi ron. caller: good morning. i m still on this dog gone filibuster that rand paul did and i heard bill press and i m real disappointed in bill. i heard him praising him for doing that. stephanie: ron, the point is we should have real filibusters like that. half of the stuff he said was nonsense. caller: i agree with you 100%. that s totally right. he filibustered for 13 hours tying up the business of the country to ask what i consider one of the dumbest questions i ve ever heard in my life. does the president think he has the authority to kill innocent americans? is that you know. what is this guy s i.q. anyhow? stephanie: of course, the answer is no. art in chicago you re on the stephanie miller show. hi art. caller: good morning, stephanie. i m not going to talk politics. i m for gun laws. i am for gun restrictions. and i believe that the answer is we have to concentrate on these judges. the young man, i don t know the names, the young man that shot that little girl that was in washington, d.c. okay, he was out on parole twice. using an illegal weapon. two times. why don t we pass a law this is what i m getting after. pass a law i don t care if you re a businessman. you have an illegal gun on you you go to jail for 15 years, no questions asked. then we stop some of the problem. there is a bigger problem. are we agreeing with each other, art? stephanie: we re out of time. i m getting out early. before it gets awkward. stephanie: i think he didn t get to his main point. probably not. stephanie: he s fuming now. 29 minutes after the hour. right back on the stephanie miller show. if you believe in state s rights but still support the drug war you must be high. viewpoint digs deep into do you think that there is any chance we ll see this president even say the words carbon tax ? 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(laughter). watch the show. only on current tv. nobody believed we would make it. i drink and you use sex as a weapon. that seems to me like a success. stephanie: good morning representative. i m good, rockin congresswoman! i love that you called the republican budget march madness. it really is. it really is. madness as insanity. happy mayhem. this is really a crazy budget. it is literally is things i thought the election already was decided. here s paul ryan yesterday. obamacare is a fiscal train wreck. it hasn t even started yet really. it is ridiculous. here s thissing that makes what he said really disgusting. were it not for the cuts that were actually made, remember that $716 billion he keeps all of the tax revenue from obamacare. he keeps all of the trimming that we were able to do from medicare in his budget. but what he does is he cuts the benefits. he cuts all of the benefits so those people that were hoping with pre-existing conditions that they would be able to get healthcare and that they may get subsidies from the government, that s gone. paul ryan ought to dedicate his budget to the president of the united states. because it is the hundreds of the billions of dollars a year in the president s policies that make it possible for him to even suggest that he s going to eliminate the deficit. the new tax revenues he voted against. maybe you can explain it to a layperson. you probably saw the exchange with chris wallace. you suppose the repeal of obamacare. he said that s not going to happen. it is entirely fictional document. how are we supposed to negotiate with or against this? yes well it is completely dead on arrival in the senate. this is absolutely going nowhere. and in fact, i thought with chris wallace that paul ryan admitted that. that this was really just a statement of their philosophy. and what a mean-spirited philosophy it really is. this is essentially to lower taxes for the wealthiest which would require an elimination of a slew of popular middle class deductions. there s no other way to do it. and the white house is suggesting it would even cause a large tax hike on the middle class to make the numbers work. cuts medicaid to the bone. slices food stamp benefits in order to do it. that is their philosophy. they have it in black and white. now very unpopular. i think we had an election pretty much on this issue. don t you think? stephanie: honestly, die get it representative. for people watching from outside of washington, it just seems the parties are farther apart than ever. we ve had this election. as you say. they literally are doubling down on all of the ideas that just lost. do you see any way that we come together on this? i don t understand how. well, it will be interesting to see how many of the republicans actually vote for this budget, if they call it for a vote. because i think many of them, after this last election, may be a bit worried. if they aren t worried enough, they should be worried in 2014 because the kinds of cuts that are gonna make it possible to give more tax breaks to the wealthiest americans is exactly what the american people said no to. so i think it is at their peril that they vote for a bill like this. stephanie: representative i m sure you ve seen the same polling, the president s approval rating is slipping somewhat. they are helping to ding him. republicans are still taking more of the blame for letting sequestration take effect. more importantly the daily beast, some sample headlines from around the country. pittsburgh u.s. government sequester kills army marine tuition aid. missouri, federal workers irked by lost pay. wyoming, wyoming healthcare senators brace for healthcare cuts. on and on. i do think that as this plays out, it is only going to get worse for republicans, isn t it? i don t think there s any question about it. we had a presentation on some polling that was done just completed last night. and to your point, john boehner turns out to be probably one of the most unpopular people in the country with americans. and there is a big gap between his positives 27% and the president s which 49%. and the other thing that our we were surprised at. 60% of americans are really worried that the cuts that are in the sequester and in the budget are going to personally affect them in a negative way. and so you know, for awhile, we were wondering are the american people really going to see this sequester and these budget cuts as meaningful in their lives? the truth is that people are worried about it and they should be. stephanie: yeah well, as i say, i think i was reading a piece in here about somebody going to take awhile for this to seep down into the grassroots and cause a popular reaction. but the white house and others remaining hopeful the fallout from the sequester and defense heavy districts like virginia could produce a compromise at some point on the sequestration. what do you think? well, i m hoping we ll be able to come up with a compromise. i just produced a piece i actually haven t put it out yet. that said yes let s cut spending but let s do it through the tax code because there are all of these tax giveaways that are really another way of spending. that result in savings of $1.2 trillion, exactly the amount of the sequester. we could ask not only the richest americans but corporations that aren t paying any taxes big oil and gas companies to pay more. at one point i talked with you about our corporate tax fairness bill. the one i have with senator bernie sanders. and so there are a number of ways that we could address the problem without asking middle class and poor people to tighten their belt because stephanie they re on the last hole in that belt. stephanie: yeah. that s exactly right. by the way if i were in congress, anything had your name and senator sanders, i would say yes before they even tell what it is? who votes aye? me! whatever jan says. so, you know, because i m sure i think i was watching, it was rachel last night. look at the gun stuff. you and i have talked about it. 92% of americans are for background checks. and you know including gun owners. stephanie: how could something not get done and yet there s not a single republican that would vote for it. the disconnect between what s going on in washington on the republican side of the aisle and the american people has i don t think ever been so profound. certainly not in the 14 years that i ve been here. i think longer as well. this is really going against the grain in every way. the gun issue. the budget issues. immigration issues. hopefully we re going to make some progress there just because they see the writing on the wall in terms of their own re-elections. but you know, so it is hard to explain to people why we can t get things done. but it is also unfair to say oh, act like adults. it is both sides. no. it really isn t. the president has been reaching and reaching and reaching and dining and talking and schmoozing and still they re not moving. stephanie: yeah. i m reading it as we speak about the gun issue congresswoman. senators negotiating a bill mandating background checks for all gun guy buyers are expecting the nra not to fight the measure providing it does not require private gun sellers to maintain records of the checks. let s teeth out of it so the nra is happy who represents nobody at this point if you look at the polling. the good news that legislation now is coming out of the senate judiciary committee. we have both of my senators, senator kirk and senator durbin that are on a gun trafficking bill that s moving along. and you know, not a single republican was at the background checks that came out. not a single republican. voted for that. it is just mysterious. really. it really is. it cannot stand. but not keeping records is increddic, isn t it? so that we can t go back and trace a gun to a crime. you know, this idea that somehow big government wants to spy on people. no actually, we want to keep our kids safe in school and going to the movies and in our neighborhoods in chicago. that s our ulterior motive. stephanie: exactly. well representative, how do you see this budget thing playing out? what happens next? is it the senate democrats put forward? because like i said, to me, it is laughable the paul ryan budget. now what? the senate will come up with a budget. it will be interesting to see if the ryan budget passes, then there s going we re going to have to work together on budgets. it is hard to and that s on a continuing resolution, that is also going to be conferenced because that keeps the sequester in place. all of these automatic budget cuts. but i think that hopefully we re going to keep mobilizing that majority of the american people that say you know, we re not going to accept a completely unbalanced, without increases in revenue, corporate and personal, i think rich people, rich companies paying more, we re just not going to accept that. we re not going to say let s cut medicare and social security and food stamps and meals on wheels and food inspectors in order to give tax cuts to the richest americans. stephanie: yep. here we go again. here we go again. stephanie: before you go, who do you want for pope? just kidding. we don t care. pope? [ laughter ] the kind of neat thing is that when the pope gets elected he becomes infallible. how cool is that? stephanie: don t you wish that worked for congresspeople? some people think so. get elected to the congress. stephanie: only one is. that is representative jan schakowsky the rockin congresswoman from the great state of illinois. bye-bye. you threw her off with the pope question. who do you want for pope? okay. who cares. i don t know. really? watching people on tv watching for smoke. ooh, i wonder who s gonna there you go. paul ryan for pope. there you go. 46 minutes after the hour. right back on the stephanie miller show. at least it is a good place to see celebrities. announcer: it s the stephanie miller show. other night? is this personal or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them, right? vo: the war room tonight at 6 eastern you ve heard stephanie s views. no bs, authentic, the real thing. now, let s hear yours at the line to stephanie miller. the only thing that can save america now: current television. join the debate now. announcer: stephanie miller. how about rick ocasek for pope? stephanie: good idea. 1-800-steph-12. sexy liberal hal sparks on his way into studio. thank you, mr. man. special delivery. stephanie: travis brings me things to make me look important. [ applause ] has someone told mayor bloomberg, deep fried doughnut bacon cheeseburgers. this is a thing. this is why you re fat.com. you can ban that. don t ban my big gulp. stephanie: don t get the calamari. i have a question about the sugary drink ban. stephanie: yes. does that mean that diet coke is banned as well? stephanie: no, there s no sugar in diet coke. but the artificial sweetener is not good for you either. i know. stephanie: choose. fat, cancer, fat cancer. i ll just get a bottle of water. stephanie: well, that s a ridiculous idea. [ laughter ] stephanie: tommy writes, it is a very important tip for you dog lovers, do not feed your dog a big plate of leftover low main and go to bed. rafalca was sold to ikea after the olympics. [ buzzer ] we don t know that for sure. also, paul ryan budget fun facts. let s see. welcome to the new budget, same as the old budget. paul ryan or mitt romney. raises taxes on the middle class to pay for tax cuts to the rich, check, check both of them. and medicare as we know it, shifting cost to seniors. maintains billions in oil breaks. expands incentives to ship jobs overseas. cutting funding for programs for middle class and low income families. slashes medicaid, hurting seniors, low income families. lowers growth, increases unemployment, increase painful european style austerity measures. they really think this is a good idea? stephanie: check, check check. the cbo expects a deficit to be $845 billion down from $1.4 trillion in 2009 so the debt is already going down. stephanie: now we have the sequestration, of course. i don t know about you but i m kind of sick of it. i m sick of the sequestration it s giving me some frustrations i m sick of the sequestration stephanie: wow rocky mountain mike! i was just talking to representative jan schakowsky about this. [ world news tonight ] eleanor cliff in the daily beast, stung by the meed yeah a focus on the suspension of white house tours. democrats fighting back. party sources providing reporters with links around the country that show the impact of the budget cuts with some republicans starting to squeal. stephanie: the mounting complaints provide some context for president obama s visit to capitol hill this week where he ll make separate pitches to caucuses to replace the sequester with smarter short-term cuts coupled with a commitment to cut cuts. these headlines around the country, they re not good. michigan, grand rapids press faa to close six airport control towers in michigan. [ world news tonight ] oh, dear, what could possibly go wrong? planes falling out of the sky. stephanie: it is a libertarian paradise. go land fly do whatever you want. senator mitch on the whole budget. it appears the president is happy to drop the bomb on the congressional budget process instead by releasing his budget plan after after the house and senate have already acted. now, presumably, this is so he can campaign against republicans if the process fails as he no doubt hopes. stephanie: see, he already did campaign against republicans. he won. [ nah nah nah nah nah ] you lost! stephanie: see how that went down. my sole purpose is to deny the president a third term. sorry, what? he doesn t get one? oh. stephanie: no. senator kelly ayotte. for those seniors that are out there with medicare going bankrupt in 2024, with social security going bankrupt in 2033, increase taxes a trillion dollars and not even save those programs is unconscionable. first of all stephanie: lindsey graham s friend. good friend. you can understand that. it sounds just like friend. i want to buy her pearls. never mind. i caught myself. stephanie: stop it. inside voice. okay. and the president s carney yesterday. we look at the ryan budget of the perfect example of why balance is so necessary. this is the alternative to balance. stephanie: just a little bit. and the president s carney one more time. have you looked at the ryan budget? can you find a single item in tax reform? a single loop hole? $5 trillion. that s a lot of money. not one. stephanie: they re kind of laughing at the budget. it is pile on the budget munster day. senator harry reid. he has held out to be this guy who understands things so well. what he understands is nothing. stephanie: representative chris van hollen. it is a question of whether you take a balanced approach which is what we proposed or you take this lopsided uncompromising approach which is what we re seeing in the house republican budget. stephanie: richard in chicago. you re on the stephanie miller show. hi richard. caller: hello. i voted for jan schakowsky, too. stephanie: yea. caller: the stuff about guns in schools and they haven t proposed arming the kindergarteners yet. stephanie: they will. caller: surprised they ve overlooked it. you can t walk into the nra headquarters with a gun i ll bet ya. you can t go into courts or congress. it is okay for the common people to have all of the guns running. you can t walk into a gunshop with a gun. stephanie: yeah. caller: because they think you re robbing them. some, you can t have more than one bullet in a gun. what about the large clip magazines. stephanie: exactly. all right. 58 minutes after the hour. sexy liberal hal sparks. he s downstairs. stephanie: live in studio for hump days with hal next on the stephanie miller show. [ theme ] stephanie: okay. hello current tv land. hour number three. sexy liberal hal sparks on his way in. jacki, i can t stand the tension over this whole pope thing. look, white smoke. it could come as soon as 11:50 eastern time. you know what i learned this morning? they used to use wet straw to make the smoke black. but now they use a chemical. stephanie: wow. not many people that can pull that little fun fact right out of their arse. is that exciting or what? stephanie: thank you for that. i don t think i ve been this excited since i set up my own fireplace this summer. stephanie: i will never get that 15 seconds in my life back. we have fireplaces here in california? i should say i set it up over the winter. stephanie: i have one. we have winter in california? yes we do. stephanie has so many working fireplaces, she likes to set fire to everything. it is 90 degrees. there is a fire on the porch. stephanie: it is like back draft in my house. here s jacki schechner. president obama is asking the secret service to reconsider its decision to stop white house tours and possibly accommodate school groups that are descending over spring break. the president acknowledged a lot of groups had fund-raisers including bake sales in order to afford their travel and it would be reasonable to try to allow them to take the tour that they ve anticipated. the secret service and white house staff made the decision to suspend tours in light of the need to cut back once the sequester kicked in. administration official emphasizes this decision was not taken to the president that it was decided below his level. at least one group of iowa sixth graders is scheduled to visit the white house this week and they ve taken to lobbying to be able to get their tour. they ve made a video and launched a web site called the white house is our house. com. in advance of today s meeting with ceos to talk about cyber security, the president is warning that cyber threats against the u.s. are growing. he says it is clear some are state-sponsor and he singles out china as one nation in the u.s. is keeping an eye on. the president signed an executive order last month calling on authorities to share information better on cyber threats. but congress still has to act to make anything legally binding. and george p. bush, jeb s son has decided to get into politics. he s launched a web video launching his campaign for land commissioner. he praises his grandmother whom he calls gann yirks former first lady barbara bush for teaching him the value of public service. we re back after the break. billy zane stars in barabbas. coming in march to reelz. to find reelz in your area, go to reelz.com you re invited to take the lysol wipes challenge. try lysol dual action wipes and see the cleaning power. lysol dual action wipes have 2 sides instead of one. a scrubbing side that cleans tough stains better than clorox. and a smooth side for everyday touchups. all while killing 99.9% of germs. take the lysol wipes challenge today. available at walmart. a closer shave in a single stroke for less irritation, even on sensitive skin. gillette mach3 sensitive. gillette. the best a man can get. 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[ doctor ] enbrel, the number one biologic medicine prescribed by rheumatologists. announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it s the stephanie miller show. i m walkin on sunshine i m walkin on sunshine and it s time to feel good no, don t! stephanie: you ll hurt yourself. it is the stephanie miller show and it s wednesday. you know what that means. stephi. what s that heavy breathing i hear? could it be? the humpty dance hump days with hal sparks. yes yes! hal: hi. how about that paul ryan budget, huh? haven t seen that many cuts since i dated that imo chick. stephanie: that s his new character, evil bob hope. hal: we ll talk about it during the break. the difference between the romney/ryan budget plan cookie cutter and pretended not to be and the new paul ryan plan is that he scratched out vice president paul ryan super awesome budget for the new america that is like the old one. it was written across the top in big like orange font. stephanie: you can picture the turned around baseball cap. the one he had to turn in to get voted on has it scratched out sadly at the top. been redacted. redacted my awesome stephanie: vice president. hal: the ayn rand memorial budget. [ wah wah ] stephanie: it just doesn t you think there was actually outright laughter in the white house? really? just a guess. hal: i think there was outright laughter at certain points during the campaign when they were really aware this was a stinker and now they know it s not working. it is just meant to be an obstructive process. it is just a holdup. it is a campaign tool. stephanie: it is compromised of things that either were the president s idea that he voted against and campaigned against or things that aren t going to happen. the affordable care act. hal: again very distinctly, i think it was great it was brought up, it tacitly was. it is not a repeal of obama care. it is a repeal of the benefits of obamacare. it keeps all of the savings. it keeps all of the stephanie: which can t happen if you take away the benefits. however it is awesome. you know when you get faced by chris wallace, it is probably a bad hal: the affordable care act, over time, lowers the deficit. and thereby our national debt as well. the amount of money that we pay into healthcare can and should be curtailed. in smart ways. stephanie: we were just saying michael tomasky in daily beast and others are saying, the deficit is going down. the best thing to do for the deficit is get more jobs and spur the economy. that will bring the deficit down. cbo says the deficit for 2013 is about $845 billion down from $1.4 trillion. hal: 92% of americans don t know that. stephanie: cynthia from chicago, you re on with hal. caller: stephanie? stephanie: yes. caller: i was calling about the ryan budget. i guess he doesn t know the definition of stupid? stephanie: he does. it is his budget. the definition of stupid is making the same asking the same question or making the same statement and expecting a different answers. i guess he thinks everybody is stupid. stephanie: exactly. here s the thing. they re counting on a certain level of bullheaded stupidity from their constituency. this is the same thing that s happening with the gun laws that are trying to get through or whatever. while 92% of the american people are for it because of how they have laid out a lot of the congressional districts,s they these guys are corn ired into the cookeiest districts ever. if you have a secure district, it means he everybody whether is drinking it means everybody there is drinking the same kool-aid. stephanie: the cuckoo banana platform. [ world news tonight ] stephanie: the president s approval rating is slipping slightly. the latest shows approval rating at 45%. disapproval rating at 48%. still republicans though who are taking more of the blame for letting sequestration take effect. the poll finds 46% surveyed blame the republicans 36% blame the president and we were saying as more and more of the local headlines and local stories come out, people are feeling the real pain hal: those are the exact numbers of identifying democrats versus identifying republicans. and that number on the republican side is the scariest number for them. you got a does not 32% to 36% republican identity and voting platform in this country because look at who s against the president every single time. it is gonna be somewhere between 32 and 36% except in the rare issue of interestingly enough, background checks. because that hits people i think in their heart and they pay attention after something like newtown. but in this case, i mean every single person who identifies on a team level, with a big r on their shirt with the republican party, is just soundly against the president no matter what he does. i think a good 20% of those people, it is because of his skin color and the rest of them is because he has a d on his jersey. that s all that matters to them, they re going to stay at that point. the scary part for them and what happened in the last election, became more pronounced was that 46%. it has become a 52%. stephanie: we were quoting a south carolina republican legislator who was saying it is good politics right now for loud republicans to vote against the black guy. ooh, was i not supposed to say that part out loud? [ buzzer ] but it s true. he is someone he s a doctor. he s for expanding the medicaid expansion and all of that. hal: they re all for it when they see the benefits of it long-term. paul ryan, they would never put into their budget, allowing medicare and medicaid to negotiate pharmaceutical price as a group thing which they would allow a corporation to do. any corporation that wants to basically unionize their purchasing power against a pharmaceutical company and go we wanted to negotiate the price of this down since we re buying it in bulk, they would never let the government do that. they would never let the taxpayer do that because to them it is well corporations aren t people after all. stephanie: ivan in california, you re on with hal. caller: there is a bill, i believe it is 1965 by a democrat and it brings the house in line all of the like paul ryan. he s a first time in the house. if he loses his pension is $50,000 a year but mr. lundgren who brings the bills up, won t even bring it up so these people, if they lose after one time, they have to wait until they re 65 or 67 to get their old age pension. why do they get $50,000 a year. $26,000 more than the top paid doctor for working just four years. stephanie: because they get so much done. [ circus ] hal: from the republican standpoint doing nothing is their job this time around. they re stopping bills from going through. they consider those that s having a do-nothing congress to them is a badge of honor. if you re ayn randian, it is the grover norquist thing. drown the government in the bathtub. that s part of the plan. it is not that they re not getting stuff done. not getting stuff done is the plan. stephanie: the important thing is sarah palin has tweeted about the soda ban being overturned in new york. victory near in nyc for liberty loving soda drinkers to politicians with too much time on their hands say government, stay out of my refrigerator. hal: look the cost long-term of obesity in this country will be what we thought was going to be the baby boomer crest in cost for healthcare is actually turning into the obesity crest. as baby boomers a lot of them actually realize that long-term health benefits of exercise, taking better care of themselves and the egotism of that group that generation, actually serves them the obesity level in this country is actually what s causing our healthcare costs to project hire. so trying to curtail that on a government level i get. i totally get. stephanie: there s more important news. [ world news tonight ] than obesity tanking our entire healthcare system. sarah palin is writing a book about the war on christmas as well. hal: i have to leave. i have to go write to toys r us because they re going to be out of crayens. $10 says she s not writing it. stephanie: it is called a happy holiday is a merry christmas. due out in november. it will urge reserving jesus christ in christmas. stephanie: jim, can i have some sarah palin music. it is better when jim reads her gobbledygook. politically correct. before the element of faith and the glorious tradition of christmas. it is marginalized and ignored. this will be a thought provoking book. in defense of the faith being ignored. blah, blah blah, blah. hal: by the way that s classic country artist money making she s doing there. if your career is flagging, turn out a christmas or christian album and you ll it will give you a nice fiscal boost. stephanie: we re doing christmas sweater. hal: we ll do jesus is the reason for the season show. because we support people s right for to worship jesus and have christmas. why not. stephanie: i m knitting. festive thong. i m already wearing it. the prototype is a little itchy. [ world news tonight ] stephanie: okay. everything you need to know about the current makeup of the republican party. palin and trump score more cpac speaking time than paul, rubio and ryan. that s huge. hal: that s a smart move. would you like to know the fun facts. palin gets 16 minutes. who doesn t want longer of that? encore! stephanie: trump gets 14 minutes. that s huge! rand paul, rick perry, bobby jindal rand paul gets 13 hours of course. no, he does not. eight minutes slotted. stephanie: rand paul, rick perry, bobby jindal, each have 13 minutes. santorum only 7 minutes. and this year s keynote speaker ted cruz will speak for a full 33 minutes. how about that. he will read from a list of people he s assured are marxists communists, muslim sympathizers from kenya. 205 muslim sympathizers from the state department. stephanie: all right. 17 minutes after the hour. go to my pc is how we keep this whole little contraption running here at the the stephanie miller show. barely. stephanie: right? 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they kind of give me this look. i asked him the other day. if you could give me the answer to this because i don t know. i could fact check it. stephanie: that would be lazy. caller: of the american work force is tied indirectly or directly to government. because if they want to kill it, there is a huge amount of jobs that are going to go with it. stephanie: i don t this is new. rooting for you know, less teachers and firefighters and police. i don t get that. literally cheer public employee layoffs. hal: i ve mentioned this before. the difference between the democratic and the republican party is the democrats treat this country like people with a mortgage who intend to stay in their home. the republicans treat it like an apartment they ve been renting and if they can put toothpaste in the poster holes on the wall when they take them down and move out, they can keep their security deposit and move to the cayman islands. these guys have checked out. paul ryan stephanie: you re a renter. hal: paul ryan thinks of america and i mean this legitimately as an investment steppingstone. this is why romney wouldn t tell you where his investment overseas lied and what companies he would invest in because this is the american legal system is great for an investor. it protects your intellectual property if you develop a product and those kind of things. once you move past that certain point and you re selling it to the rest of the world we have tariff and trade protection laws. they take advantage of this because it is porous. move the factories to china. next step is to move their corporate red quarters to a place where headquarters to a place where nobody will tax them. stephanie: dana in maryland. caller: just this whole pope thing, it is like kind of it is a bit much. stephanie: yes. hal: that s what i think every time i see a pope. caller: 2013 pope watch. smoke out of the chimney offensive anyway. that s a whole other issue. stephanie: thanks for adding the global warming. caller: what i don t understand is how mahoney is in the conclave picking the new pope when he was just stripped in california, is that correct? million dollar lawsuit? stephanie: i know. caller: i wanted to know what you guys think about all of this. so corrupt. stephanie: plus, die get why it is like 24/7, everybody is glued to their like who are they going to pick? like you re going to know any of them. oh, he s good. hal: the american people getting caught up in especially if you re not catholic. i suppose if you re catholic it has great meaning to you but the rest of us having to watch it as if it is amazing is like watching the royal wedding to some degree. stephanie: okay. that s where we hit the gender divide. i love the princess wedding. hal: you watch it like a celebrity wedding. this is hoyt. this is a this is royalty. this is a monarchy. we fought a war to avoid both of these things. religious leader being picked by guys. stephanie: they could learn by not calling it prematurely. hal: they pick a guy. it is not an election. stephanie: we don t have exit polls or early returns. they do it the right way. they get to a final vote then they let the smoke get it. [ crying ] stephanie: maybe we better wait and let it go to its final conclusion. stephanie: we did. hal, you re right. it is no more an election than picking a speaker of the house. hal: if the senate chose the president, we wouldn t call it an election. we would call it a selection. that s exactly what it is. especially when you have somebody like mahoney in on the process. honestly. stephanie: i think john boehner would look awesome in little satin slippers and a big hat. don t you think? get bronzer all over the hat. stephanie: have to dry-clean it every day. john boehner, while the sequestration is happening joined a group of senators to add $181 million to an upgrade program at an abrams tank facility where they build the abrams tank in lima, ohio, driving distance from his district where a lot of people in his district work at that plant. even though the army is phasing out the abrams tank. why upgrade it when you re not going to build it anymore. this is your fiscally responsible party. this is the guy who pats paul ryan on the head and says nice job. stephanie: back with more hump days with hal on the stephanie miller show. compelling true stories. jack, how old are you? nine. this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. 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[ explosion ] and hot brie. caller: i wanted to address that comment that was made about obama being a racist and it has been said that he wants to turn black people against white people. stephanie: on fox news. hal: fox news i were tending it was somebody fox news pretending it was somebody outside stephanie: they mean someone in the hallway. hal: roger ailes that morning at the meeting. caller: i m biracial. i ve never once thought that, you know, my black dna wanted to beat up my white dna. [ laughter ] stephanie: why are you hitting yourself? caller: yeah. and furthermore, with the reparations, if i were to get the 40 acres the righteous indignation of my black half would be elated. you get 20 acres and an ass. stephanie: the white half of you would want to enslave the black half of you. hal: the white side of would you make the black side of you work the land. stephanie: there is no winning, mary. hal: it is amazing how black he becomes to these folks without realizing, you know, he is largely raised by his white grandparents and so like their hatred of what they must project from their side is kind of stunning. if he hated white people like we hate black people, he probably oh my god! i m scared. fema coffin. stephanie: if we have our fiscal conservatives on the right. would you like not so fun facts about how americans were swindled by the hidden cost of the iraq war. sure. stephanie: by way of the guardian. it is just you know, rachel has this had this great piece on msnbc. it is worth remembering when we re having the budget battles. when the u.s. invaded iraq in 2003 the bush administration estimated it would cost $50 to $60 billion except what s his name said iraq oil would pay for it. hal: they still think iraq owes us money. stephanie: $50 billion to overthrow saddam hussein and establish a function of government. this was catastrophically wrong. it has cost $823 billion between 2003-2011. it makos $3.7 trillion. they were a little off. hal: not including the cost in detriment to our economy. stephanie: most striking fact about the cost of the war is the extent to which it has been kept off the books as we ve said many times of the government s ledgers. this was done by design, a fundamental assumption of the bush administration s approach to the war where it is only politically sustainable if it was portrayed as near costless to the american public. 70% of the course of the wars in iraq and afghanistan between 2003 and 2008 were funded with emergency appropriations approved outside the pentagon s annual budget. how they got away with this, i don t know. more fundamentally the bush administration masked the cost of the war with deficit spending to ensure the american people would not face the cost which when bush was in office. its real costs were confined to the 1% of the population who fought and died there. as a result, the average american was never forced to confront whether pouring money borrowed from china into the corrupt services was worth it or whether it made more sense to rebuild infrastructure in iraq. and we lost at least i don t know $8 billion to fraud waste. [ whatever! ] stephanie: now they re fiscal conservatives. hal: the president comes into office with $1.1 trillion in the budget before he ever does anything. at the moment of the crash even. still with the $117 trillion he has to figure out a way to deal with. he s making the choice. let s put this war on the books. let s know we re there. stephanie: part of why the deficit is coming down is because we re getting out of iraq and afghanistan which is what he ran and won on. he s getting some of the bush tax cuts back, are helping. it is hal: mccain here comes mccain and lindsey graham freaking out. mccain s original assessment of the war is it would last 65 minutes and they would leave a mint on our pillow. stephanie: the lowest level of spending since like eisenhower. so their entire narrative is wrong. it is just joe in detroit. you re on with hal. hi joe. caller: how are you guys? stephanie: good. go ahead. caller: just a little serious note here. last night on rachel s show, they did a thing where the we first started the republic, each state got in the constitution, two senators. the difference between the most popular state virginia and the least popular delaware was 11 to 1. now it is 66 to 1. hal: more representation than california, new york state by an exponential factor which is an absurdity. caller: it figures out to 21%. 41 senators represent 21% of the population blocking 69% of the business but it is worse in the house. it is 600,000 are in a congressional district and you take the 40 tea party people and divide that into the total house, it is less than 10%. so those 10% are holding up 90% of the business of this country and the people who don t believe that way. hal: right. don t get me started on anonymous holds. the idea that in a democracy a senator can put a hold on a bill they don t like and never have to tell them it is them doing it and b why! stephanie: it is like twitter. hal: this is governing by youtube trolling. everybody has an egg for an avatar. you don t know who it is. hal: blue egg. stephanie: government control. exactly. stephanie: barb in ohio. you re on with hal. caller: hi. hey, steph. you were talking about rebuilding in iraq. their infrastructure. what kills me is we ll go there i know that we damaged everything. don t get me wrong. we should probably rebuild it. but we put all of this money into iraq yet our own infrastructure is going to pot. we sell it off to everybody. foreigners are buying our roads and you know, privatizing to raise money. hal: train from vegas to disneyland that all of the republicans said was a horrible idea and would not be financially sustainable is being built by a chinese firm with $8 billion of private money because they know it is going to be profitable. stephanie: yeah. caller: right. and then you ve got poor detroit there where we can t even lend a helping hand to our own city. we can t help them. but yet we bail out everybody in the world and wall street and everybody else. stephanie: this was a feeding trough, too, for these the blackwaters and all of the private hal: no bid contract. fiscal responsibility. there is your belief in the american people. there is your constitutional freedom fighters. i m fighting for your freedom. pay no attention to how i m spending your money. if i want to dump $8 billion of it into a series of trucks and the trucks drive into the iraqi desert and vaporize and that money shows up god knows where that s trust me on this. this is okay. stephanie: yeah, exactly. [ world news tonight ] stephanie: what i meant to say was jim, i was on erin burnett last night. oh. you need this music. stephanie: i was on the show. you weren t on. on the erin burnett program. poor distinction in your case. stephanie: it deprives jim of the momentary pleasure and the creepy noise. hal: you could say i was on the erin burnett television program and he would go doing what? it wouldn t matter. stephanie: were you in the box? okay. we were talking about lance armstrong. wow, what a douche nozzle he is. holy cow, is he arrogant. he said i m like bill clinton and people will forgive me. wow! really? nice try. hal: bill clinton s lie had nothing to do with his job performance. stephanie: that s what i said when i was on erin burnett last night. [ applause ] that s what i said. i said first of all i said 70% of the american people agreed with me he should not be impeached for his private life. it had nothing to do with his job. whereas i said lance armstrong s cheating was his entire career, went on his entire career. the lying went on his entire career. he was cheating about the thing that was his job. he was an inspiration to people for. that was different than investigating someone for their private life then using it to say this has something to do with your presidency. lance armstrong has claimed the public will forgive him for being the biggest drug cheat in the history of the sport just like they did bill clinton for his affair. [ buzzer ] stephanie: bad analogy. he said he saw the former president s rehabilitation as a model for his own and in a decade, he will be back on top again. he said clinton is a hero. he wants to copy him and become president of the world. yes, well, you see president clinton has done a lot of things that make minimum seen as president of the world. hal: more like an ambassador to the world. here s the thing with lance armstrong. i actually am thankful that he did what he did to himself because arguably, that s the best form of drug testing you can come up with. instead of picking a bunch of people in a double blind study and seeing if the drugs improve let them test you lose a testicle. we re not taking those drugs anymore. try a different plan. stephanie: he denied being a bully. he was defiant and bragged about having his own constituency as if he were already on the campaign trail. hal: wow! stephanie: he did bully people and intimidated them. that s the other part of the story. someone likes himself a little too much. stephanie: very pleased with himself. okay. 45 minutes after the hour. back with the remaining moments of hump days with hal on the stephanie miller show. what in the name of holy hell is going on here? announcer: it s the stephanie miller show. thinking. ok, so there s wiggle room in the ten commandments, that s what you re saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. absolutely. and so would mitt romney. 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[ laughter ] stephanie: 2012 was an amazing year for me and my partner. first we were honored to attend the meet and greet at the sexy liberal in columbus in september. irma gird. my partner bought tickets as a ten-year anniversary present. i work on the obama re-election campaign and for my hard work, i was honored to meet the president. omg, what an amazing day. almost as great as meeting you. p.o.t.u.s. [ whatever! ] stephanie: in december, my partner was able to get a hip replacement thanks to obamacare. her care was outstanding. insurance paid 85% of her cost. please tell people that obamacare is working! hooray! what about your voucher? stephanie: you know what you should do with that sexy new hip? home sweet home, chicago you say once isn t enough? 15 is my limit. stephanie miller s sexy liberal comedy tour is making a return visit on april 13th to the chicago theatre. ness witness john fuglesang hilarious heartthrob hal sparks and catholic girl gone wild stephanie miller as they reunite for another night of inspired comedy. putting the band back together. we re on a mission from god. tickets are available at ticketmaster.com. come see the tour that sparked a number one comedy album and its own tv documentary. it is more fun than a bag of vipers. we re just packaging what the kids want. that s the sexy liberal comedy tour at the chicago theatre on april 13th. sweet home, chicago is about to get more sugar from mama. sweet home chicago who can argue with a bag of glass. fantastic. all four of us have lived there. i won the funniest teenager in chicago restaurant at ditka s. tony bennett was there. my first real film job before i actually acted jab i did an after school special. what i got paid to do was an extra in a midway airlines ad with mike ditka. wow! stephanie: how totes adorbs is that! who is the guy behind ditka? i have an e-mail from a listener. please stop sexually harassing stephanie. it shouldn t be allowed just because she s gay. i never hear anyone harassing jim and chris. stephanie: oh i do. your commends would not fly in other places. she should file suit against you too. stephanie: i will get on it. travis, get my lawyer. oh i don t have one. sorry. but you do have a spectacular action ss. stephanie: thank you. why, i ought to sue you! hal: sexual harassment is a little hard it could work up the chain but it is a little harder. your job is in danger if you don t put up. you re my employee. oh, i m fired. i ll clear out my desk. stephanie: i don t have a desk. bill in new york. hal: my locker. caller: stephanie in? stephanie: yes hello. caller: the press the president and the democrats, you know, they don t know how to frame their argument against the republicans, you know in the press when the republicans always think that the democrats want to raise taxes raise taxes. the democrats should be repeating they re trying to close loopholes tax breaks known as loopholes. that s not raising taxes. that s closing loopholes. it is semantics. stephanie: the president s carney said exactly like that. have you looked at the ryan budget? can you find a single item in tax reform? a single loophole closed? $5 trillion. that s a lot of money. not one. stephanie: coupon. go door-to-door, old lady. i m having chest pains. i m sorry we don t take that coupon. i m having chest pains. two doors down and up the flight of stairs. stephanie: stop looking at smoke. [ world news tonight ] dennis rodman is on it. oh, thank god. fresh from his summit in north korea. that worked out so well. they declared war against us. stephanie: shut the front door. really? is setting his sights on fixing the pesky problems plaguing the church. rodman is jetting to rome. that s the funniest part, rodman has people in rome. okay. have been in touch with the vatican and they re trying to arrange a sit-down with whoever the next guy is. dennis said i want to be anywhere in the world that i m needed. you re not needed anywhere but thanks for why is he suddenly first of all he pops up like jimmy carter. stephanie: so random. hal: i m 100% fine with that. exporting weird is one of our untapped resources. we have a lot of interesting weird individuals in this country. stephanie: it is just weird. [ applause ] hal: they were watching the harlem globetrotters. that s where dennis rodman and kim jong-un were watching the harlem globetrotters together. stephanie: hal sparks, funniest teenager in chicago. [ world news tonight ] still have the shirt
in mind that none of the last four conclaves lasted more than three days. but also keep in mind the last conclave to go more than five days was back in 1831. that one took 50 days. josh elliott, abc news, vatican city. and we will hear again from josh later today on good morning america. and he did mention, of course, boston s cardinal sean o malley in that piece and we re learning that o malley is emerging as an unlikely star in rome and also a top contender for pope that s right. he s usually seen as in his humble robes of his kapuchin order and earned a anymoremake the cappuccino priest. he s traded in that robe this week for the much more festive cardinal red and even ditched the sandals. but also a moment of chaos at the vatican yesterday. just step as way from st. peter s basicila these women took their tops off to protest what they call patriarch ki of the church and protesters set off pink flares chanting no more pope before they were all eventually restrained by officers then carried to a police station. and, of course, you can count on abc news for complete coverage of the conclave with diane sawyer. she s anchoring for us live right there in rome. and one more major development involving the church. the archdiocese of los angeles has reached a nearly $10 million settlement involving four sex abuse victims. 9 case involves ex-priest michael baker who admitted that he did in fact molest kids. it said the church did not do enough to stop him even after he confessed. the sex abuse scandal is one of the many challenges to be faced by the next pope. breaking news from louisiana bayou country. it struck by an oil barge pushed by a tugboat. they were engulfed in flames. all four tugboat crew mes suffered injuries, the most serious the captain who sustained second and third-degree burns. the section of pipeline struck has been shut down so only oil inside of it will burn. to politics now and battle over the budget. president obama makes another trip to capitol hill this afternoon to meet with republicans in the house. yesterday the gop released its plan to balance the budget in ten years and to do it without increasing taxes. president obama was asked about that budget in an exclusive interview with abc s george stephanopoulos. my goal is not to chase a balanced budget just for the sake of balance. my goal is how do we grow the economy, put people back to work and if we do that we re going to be bringing in more revenue. if we ve controlled spending and we ve got a smart entitlement package then potentially what you have is balance but it s not balance on the backs of, you know, the poor, the elderly, students who need student loans, families who have disabled kids. that s not the right way to balance our budget. and you can see that full interview coming up later today on good morning america. also the president discussed a major hacking scandal targeting celebrities, but he refused to say if the information posted about the first lady is actually authentic. the fbi and secret service are now investigating a website claiming to have social security number, credit reports and other financial information on celebrities and some political big wigs including vice president joe biden and superstar beyonce. well, after years of debate colorado lawmakers have approved civil unions and the governor is expected to sign it. the legislation grants same-sex couples rights similar to those that come with marriage. the passage is considered a major political shift in a state where voters approved a gay marriage ban seven years ago. and from texas, we now know the next political step being taken by a rising star from the bush family. 36-year-old george p. bush filed papers yesterday to run for land commissioner of texas. it s a little known but actually powerful position in the lone star state. george p. is the son of former florida governor jeb bush and, of course, his grandfather and uncle were both president. well, tests on a rock test on rock samples collected on mars show the planet could have supported primitive life done by curiosity which drilled into the rock, crushed it and tested a tiny sample. nasa scientists say it contains clay minerals that formed in a watery environment favorable for microscopic organisms. all right. time for a check of the weather across the nation. new york, boston and philadelphia could see a leftover shower or too. the pineapple express brings heavy rain and possible flooding to seattle and it s a dry but cool day in florida. temperatures really warm up in the west with phoenix close to 90 in fact, salt lake city and boise are in the 60s. the midwest is still much cooler than normal with chicago struggling to stay above freezing today. meanwhile, it ll be pretty mild here in the northeast. all right. coming up, big news for boeing, its problem plague dreamliner could soon be back in the air. get ready for the return of the twinkie. the iconic treat coming soon to store shelves. sometimes heavily armed commando dolphins on the loose? we ll explain coming up. welcome back, everybody. wall street has squeaked out another record. the dow jones industrial average gained less than 3 points yesterday but that was enough to close at a new record high. it also continued the dow s longest winning streak in two years. eight straight days in an increase. the dreamliner is a little closer to getting back in the air this morning. the faa is giving boeing the green light to test its solutions for the lien s battery problems. all 787 jets have been grounded since mid-january when batteries on the two planes overheated. it s still not known whether dreamliners can start carrying passengers once again. a million more general motors cars may be added to a brake light recall. the lights may not come on when the pedal is pressed on some older chevy malibu and saturn aurares or may come on for no reason at all. gm chased the problem to the wiring connector. the twinkie has a new owner. sold to two investment offers. the sale still needs bankruptcy court approval. the buyers hope to begin restocking shelves by this summer. hostess products have not been available since november. google is admitting to a drive-by privacy breach. the search giant will pay $7 million to settle complaints that it collected personal data at its street view cars mapped it will be? and d.c., google will sponsor a campaign to teach people how to secure their wireless networks. and an institution known for teaching outdoor skills is addings is indoors. boy scouts who want to earn the new video game design merit badge must be able to analyze various games and understand the concept of intellectual property. other unusual merit badges, by the way, include nuclear science, fingerprinting and journalism. good to hear journalism is in there. like to hear that. all things change. i wonder what that badge looks like. next on this wednesday, the massive man hunt for several escaped prisoners. 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[ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology. quit one day at a time with nicoderm cq. with time release smart control technology. . there s a live look at the vatican where the cardinals have reconvened for another day of voting. they could cast up to four ballots today until one man gets the needed 77 votes and that, of course, would mean that the white smoke would pore from the top of the sistine chapel. now for a look at road conditions at home. minor flooding could make roads slippery in new england, heavy rain will be a challenge around the seattle area. a great day for air travel. no major airport declares. we don t say that a lot. that s good. that s true. all right, back to the news now. we now have a date for the trial of james holmes, the suspected gunman in the aurora, colorado, movie massacre. he was back in court with a thick beard and with his formerly orange hair now gone. the judge entered a not guilty plea for him after his attorney said they simply were not ready to enter a plea. he also set august 5th to start his trial. a double murder suspect is hospitalized oregon of a day-long standoff with police. the man who is believed to have killed his grandparents was holed up in a motel room yesterday. police had to send in a camera with a a robot with a camera on it to look inside. the suspect was later 230u7bdz with serious self-inflicted cuts brought to a hospital in critical condition. three inmates at a missouri jail are now back in custody after about 14 hours on the run. two of the men are murder suspects and the third is accused of shooting a couple during a break-in. they escaped through the ceiling of the jail on monday night. all of them were found about five miles away yesterday afternoon at a salvage yard where one of them used to work. the tsa is facing more backlash over its decision to allow pocket knives back on planes. american airlines became the third major carrier to urge the administration not to lift that ban and massachusetts congressman ed markey introduced a bipartisan measure called the no knives act opposing the rule change which is scheduled to go into effect come april 25th. and the ukraine is denying reports that it lost track of three military attack dolphins. in addition to finding underwater mines, the dolphins are trained to plant explosives on ships and then kill enemy divers with special weapons attached to their heads. it s not clear if the missing dolphins were armed when they escaped from their handlers during training exit polls. another sinkhole in the news this morning. this one in southern illinois. it opened up in the fairway of a golf course. the 18-foot deep hole swallowered a golfer last friday. the man injured his shoulder but rescued after 20 minutes, a state geology expert says it happened because it dissolved causing the ground to collapse. and now here s a look at some hoop highlights from espn. doug kezirian with your sportscenter update. no team in the nba hotter than the miami heat. nine-game lead in the east entering last night s action. heat looking for their 19th straight win hosting atlanta. ho-hum, alley hoop from dwyane wade to lebron james. 27 assists on 35 made field goals. here s lebron just being lebron. bowling over opponents, showing the athleticism and the court awareness dishing it to wade filling the lane. the break, second half now, d-wade, one of five heat that scored in double figures and led everyone with 23 points and then ray allen spotting up, no one in nba history has made more three-point field goal and miami cruises, 19 straight opening up a road trip. elsewhere, dwight howard returning to orlando for the first time can see off-season as you would imagine some boo birds in the arena. howard, though, laying the smack-down, the big dunk, kobe dunk y was just deferring to him. elbow catching kobe in the face. he would get stitched up, and, of course, he s kobe bryant so he ll return top action. nice feed off steve nash and kobe, well, clearly, you got to guard kobe bryant. wide-open jumper, sticks it. magic also implemented the attack howard plan. howard tied his own nba record with 39 free throws attempted and he finished with 39.6 robins. lakers for the first time this season three games above .500. coming up next, the pulse and the 4,000 calorie burger. that s incredible. you got to see this thing. wow and the 70s hit good times coming back four decades later. say it with me now, dynamite! 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( birds chirping ) exceptionally smooth with a harmonious blend of flavor and aroma. green mountain coffee for your keurig brewer. brew a better day. live from the kgo-tv broadcast center this is abc7 news. good wednesday morning at 4:28. thanks for joining us. i saw the fog coming up. more than a little bit. where is the fog, mike? we start with live doppler 7 hd. the fog is thickest in the north bay valley along the coast and as we head around the bay shore. not as widespread as yesterday. it will fade faster. that is why we will have warmer temperatures this afternoon. 68 to 74 around the bay. 74 to possibly 80 inland. the coast will have clouds and upper 50 s to low 60 s. sue? unfortunately, we start off with a fatal accident on the marin and sonoma border near antonio road north 101 a deer in the right lane. traffic is slow in the area. there is no estimated time of getting in cleared. c.h.p. is on the scene investigateing. a fatality on the marin and sonoma border at san antonio. elsewhere, road work out there at 880, in the lanes until 5:00 this morning and southbound 285 between 237 and 280, you can see the road work. the golden gate bridge has socked in fog and it is slow. in vatican city the cardinals are taking a lunch break after sending a black smoke in the past hour indicating no pope has been selected. our reporter is joining us live from rome with the latest developments. marcy? we saw the black smoke an hour ago so that means the cardinals voted twice this morning and still no one has the 77 votes needed to be elected pope. for the second time since the conclave began yesterday, black smoke poured from the small chimney. the world is waiting for white smoke signaling there is a new pope, but well have to wait. well run out when anything happens. we want to expense it. there is nothing we would rather do than be here experiencing history. after the disappointing darkness of the smoke pouring from above the cistene chapel signaling inconclusive vote, the cardinals return this morning with prayers for guidance at the 15 cast another round of ballots . the cardinals have very much on the mind they are human beings and they want to make the best choice possible but they could make a mistake. the bets are out on who could be elected. online gambling say most money is on cardinal scola of italy and then the cardinal from brazil and the americans are not doing too badly. we have taken money on the americans recently, including dolan. what is happening behind the closed doors, the century old method of choosing the next leader, the election of the man who will lead the 1.2 billion catholics, taking another step forward today. like you said the cardinals are breaking for lunch and will be back this afternoon to vote again. we talked about what is happening on the inside, inside the closed doors. what about outside? what can you tell us about the crowds outside the vatican
[applause] next week on the show, i go camping with the double rainbow guy. double rainbow all the way across the sky. [crying] oh, my god. what does this mean? do you know where double rainbows come from? a unicorn s queef. [laughter] keep up with out daily blog at comedy central.com/tosh.0, make sure you come see me on the tosh tour 2010, and follow me on twitter, so we can live chat during the shows. finally, the best part about having a job is talking about your co-workers behind their backs. that s why i had my fans tweet me all their office gossip in a new segment called twispers. ryan writes, uh, girl at corporate likes to meet and bang field managers at regional meetings. that had a lot of office jargon in it. it has to be real. devin says the girl in the cubical across from meadowsn t know her snatch shows twice a week. what she don t know won t hurd her. our office skank just that must be a mistake, because the worst-smelling taco at ponchero s still smells delicious. rob has been licking the tops of so day cans in the fridge at trader publishing. got you know, bastard. he got you, rob. and this guy is black, of course. he owes $10,000 in child support. just because that is really racist doesn t mean that twisper isn t accurate. pay up. see you next week. cacao! [applause] [eagle caw] stephen: tonight, a rift in the gop: some deny global warming, others deny climate change. [laughter] then, hollywood takes on gun safety. and yet they ignore how many younglings are cut down by light sabers. [laughter] and my guest, roger hodge, is editor of the oxford american magazine, which has been called the new yorker of the south. the dogs in their cartoons don t go to psychiatrists, they go to shooting ranges. [laughter] ted nugent will attend the state of the union tonight. or as deer call it, the greatest night of their lives. this is the colbert report. captioning sponsored by comedy central [ the colbert report theme music playing] [cheers and applause] come on! [crowd chanting stephen] [cheers and applause] thank you very much. , ladies and gentlemen. thank you for joining us. welcome to the broadcast. [cheers and applause] thank you so much for your love and support. you know i can t do this show without you. this show is for you. this show is to look out for what is coming in your life. [cheers and applause] and, folks, tonight i got your back, folks. as you know, tonight tonight barack-hussein obama gets to give his annual look at me, i m the president speech. lop-a-doopa doo! lop-a-doopa doo! [laughter] all this stuff? it s not even in the constitution. [laughter] obama shouldn t even be up there givinging the speech. 2012 was supposed to be the gop s year: with the economy in shambles, they thought the race was theirs to lose. and they were right. [laughter] and it s not just the presidency. the republicans also lost seats in the senate. lost the popular vote in the house. and briefly lost paul ryan in the mall. [laughter] he was supposed to hold on to his mother s hand! [laughter] they found him busting a union at the build-a-bear workshop. [laughter] but folks, the rnc, the republican national committee, is doing something about it. the rnc is doing a major autopsy on 2012. the rnc is coming up with some type of autopsy of the last election. you ve got to do a full autopsy. stephen: yes, a full autopsy. which is also the republican alternative to obamacare. [laughter] to plot their path back to power, the gop recently held a three-day conference in williamsburg, virginia, which is the perfect location, because the republican platform also re-enacts the 18th century. [laughter] they say they went there for a little self-reflection exactly what men inspired by ayn rand need more time thinking about themselves. [laughter] they also reached out to voters, with a web-survey asking how they can improve their messaging. and a computerized web survey is the perfect way to hear from republicans core constituency of the extremely old. latch laugh the number one suggestion was, hello? hello? how does this thing make toast? [laughter] [cheers and applause] and after that, the gop crunched the numbers and figured out what they need to change about their views toward women, immigration, and tax cuts for the rich. and the answer was i have it nothing. it s a blank sheet of paper. there s nothing on here you see. according to rnc chair reince priebus fun fact, his name is an anagram for penis rice-a-roni [laughter] the gop doesn t need to change on the issues, they just need to be a party that smiles. [laughter] yes, they just need to smile. present the same core message but in a more pleasant manner. i ll show you how it works with one of their misunderstood talking points from the last election. [laughter] if it s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. [laughter] [cheers and applause] so, republicans have got 2014 in the bag. or they would, if not for political strategist and unlanced boil karl rove. [laughter] you see, instead of joining his fellow republicans in learning nothing from the last election, karl has turned on them. karl rove launching an effort called the conservative victory project to keep less-electable conservative republicans from winning primaries. rove announced his new super pac aimed at crushing tea party republicans. our job is to win races by stopping the practice of giving away some of the seats like we did in missouri and indiana this past year. stephen: karl s bogus claim is that tea partiers cost republicans winnable races by backing polarizing candidates, like todd legitimate rape akin, and richard somehow even worse on rape mourdock. [laughter] meanwhile, the manatee with the plan-atee wants the party to get behind the kind of mainstream, electable republicans he s backed like near-winner connie mack, strong runner-up linda mcmahon, so-close-but-didn t-get-it george allen, [laughter] got-his-fine-white-ass-handed-to -him scott brown, and of course that guy. [laughter] what s his name? i just ah blake lively!? i m not [laughter] rove s already got the knives out for two tea party senate hopefuls: iowa congressman and alleged corn-packer, steve king, [laughter] and georgia congressman paul broun, who, despite being a medical doctor, said this: god s word is true. i ve come to understand that. all that stuff i was taught about evolution, embryology, big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. [laughter] stephen: and paul broun knows pits of hell because that is evidently where he s speaking from. [laughter] well, the tea party isn t going to take karl s new stab-you-in-the-back superpac lying down. tea party activist erick erickson says, i dare say any candidate who gets this group s support should be targeted for destruction by the conservative movement. that s right, karl. you cross the tea party and you could end up like the last candidate they targeted for destruction barack obama. [laughter] hmm. think about it. [ laughter ] clearly clearly, the republican party is tearing itself in half. i guess nobody remembers this guy, ronald reagan, the white marco rubio. [laughter] he had a little something called the eleventh commandment. thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow republican. that s all over now and i could mean only one thing. civil war. the president of citizens united declared the civil war has begun. it s full-on gop warfare. it s gop civil war. stephen: yes, gop civil war. of course, the first thing they ll have to fight over is which side gets the confederate flag. [laughter] so, as a conservative, i guess i have to choose sides. karl and i have had some good times, we buried that hooker. [laughter] but deep down, my heart is with the tea party. well, maybe not my heart. what organ produces bile. gall bladder, i guess. i don t know. i believe that republicans can not wuss out here. they need to charge ahead and take even more conservative positions. forget embracing latinos, we need a program to shoot them into space. [laughter] let s give them a pathway to low orbit. gays shouldn t be allowed to marry, or vote. i for one don t want sloppy seconds on their lever-yanking. and i believe all women should have mandatory transvaginal ultrasounds before they can get a driver s license. [laughter] hey, nobody s happy with their picture anyway. now are these extreme positions? maybe. can we really win the election by giving the voters more of what they didn t want last time? no. unless we smile when we say it! [laughter] [cheers and applause] we ll be right back. [cheers and applause] éxéx back, everybody. [cheers and applause] thanks, folks. nation, as of 8:00 eastern standard time, it appears the manhunt for california fugitive chris dorner is coming to a close. his story is yet another in a long series of tragic gun-related deaths. and so far, nothing has been done to curb our access to these deadly weapons. and hopefully, that nothing will continue. [laughter] but for those frustrated that not enough of nothing is being done, i have good news: it s a bold new initiative in arizona, where sheriff joe arpaio is sending 3,000 volunteers to patrol schools in armed posses, and the training started this weekend. inside this elementary school, teachers and students don t stand a chance against heavily armed gunmen. the kids cower under the tables, try to escape as teachers beg the bad guys for mercy. the volunteer posse members take the gunman down. stephen: wow. [laughter] arizona s got great schools. those are 8th graders, but they re being traumatized at a 12th grade level! [laughter] now, filling our schools with gun-toting guys who have nowhere to be during work hours might give some parents pause, but rest assured, mom and dad, these volunteer posses are getting top notch training. these volunteer officers are running through drills run by hollywood actor steven seagal. [laughter] [cheers and applause] stephen: yes, steven seagal. [cheers and applause] because the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is an even worse actor. [laughter] we know hollywood violence is the real problem, therefore it s also the solution. [laughter] it s like fighting fire with fire. if your house is on fire, call an arsonist, he ll know what to do. [laughter] but for some reason arizona democrat chad campbell called using seagal as an instructor ludicrous. adding, why don t we also have clint eastwood and chuck norris and bruce willis come out and train them too while we re at it? [cheers and applause] well, come on! [cheers and applause] that is stupid. you can t have those guys. they still get work. [laughter] besides, none of these guys have lama seagal s mastery of tactical ops. i ve put hundreds of thousands if not millions of hours into my weapons training. stephen: that s right, millions of hours! [laughter] now a million hours is about 115 years, which sounds crazy, but so does asking steven segal to train your posse. so it works out. [laughter] the seagal posse is such a pre-success that arapaio s already signed on additional star power 1970 s the incredible hulk star lou ferrigno and actor peter lupus of the 1960s tv series mission: impossible. [laughter] of course, lupus is 80 now. so mission impossible is opening the lunchroom milk. [laughter] but folks, many of arpaio s posse members don t even need training. history has proven they ve got extensive experience with police. a six-month cbs5 investigation uncovered a number of posse members with arrests for assault, drug possession, domestic violence, sex crimes against children, disorderly conduct, impersonating an officer, and the list goes on. stephen: wow. drug possession? sex crimes? it takes real dedication to guard a school that you are not allowed within 500 feet of. [cheers and applause] now some people are going to get all worried about having arpaio s violent sex offenders watch their kids. no problem. he can just assemble an armed posse to protect our children from his other armed-volunteer posse. [laughter] i bet we can even get steven seagal to train that posse, too, if someone just shows up with a camera and a sweet roll. [laughter] [cheers and applause] stephen: welcome back, everybody. my guest tonight is the editor of the oxford american, a magazine that explores southern culture. i believe it comes in print, online, or deep fried. please welcome roger hodge. [cheers and applause] thank you for coming on. [cheers and applause] thank you. stephen: have a seat. you are the editor of the oxford american. here is the magazine right here. it s called the new yorker of south. i ve heard that. stephen: have you heard that. i said it earlier in the show so you might have heard it from me. [laughter] why do you think people call it the new yorker of the south. what is it that the new yorker is high florida lawsuitent. i don t know why. the new yorker comes every week and piles up. and according to some people no one reads it. [ laughter ] stephen: how often do you put out this thing? quarterly. so you have time to read it. stephen: you have to work really hard to let it pile up. [ laughter ] exactly. exactly. stephen: why is it called oxford american ? that sounds english to me. it does, but there s a place in mississippi called oxford, mississippi, and that s where it was founded. stephen: faulkner, right? fawmer in country, right. stephen: are you going for a fawmer in vibe here? does the magazine come with cliff notes because we can arrange that. stephen: too many names. there are a lot of names. the idea was to explore and celebrate and really get lost nm southern culture. stephen: i m a southern boy. you are? stephen: i m from charleston, south carolina. which is north from where we sit [audience boos] stephen: sir, all roads lead north from charleston. where are you from? del rio, texas. stephen: no mean to burst your bubble but texas is a great place, but if you are from the real south [cheers and applause] texas is texas. ask someone from texas they ll tell you from texas. they ll say i m from texas not the south it s true. it s true. stephen: it is true. i accept your apology. texas is unique and most southerners would like to expel texas from the south. i understand why because texas is in some ways the most extremely southern. stephen: it s too big of a weight. it s got too much of the own flavor that isn t the south flavor. for instance, beef barbecue ribs, abomb minimummation. a degree. it has to be the pig. stephen: slow smoked pig. thank god. gotta be the pig. stephen: we re cool with each other. and even better it would be a louisiana pulled pork made into a patty and seared. that s the ultra. stephen: it should be pulled pork and served with a mustard sauce like s.c. like south carolina, right. stephen: we ll fight latter. we ll stab each other. okay. stephen: one of reasons i wanted to have you on the show is because you talk to people not from the south and they think everybody from the south is change change everybody is like [speaking quickly in southern twang] exactly. that s it. stephen: there s smart folk. beautiful, beautiful literature from the south that i have never read. [laughter] not just literature. stephen: what are people missing by thinking the south is a bunch of pig farmers. there are pig farmers but it s also a place of great literature and music. this issue is dedicated to the music of louisiana which is some of the greatest in the union. jazz was born in the south. the blues, had a baby, it s name was rock n roll. it was born and raised in the south. stephen: what was it about the south that was so different that allowed for jazz and blues and rock n roll. there was some pa cuellar institution that made that possible. yes. and out after this tragedy is slavery we have given we have received the gift great culture. because the fusion of
this isn t an issue about bullying. this is an issue of mine and jon s relationship where i may i ve taken stuff too far. all right. we ve got a lot to get to this afternoon from chris christie, the newly crowned prince of the gop, to failed talks with iran, to the explosive story unfolding this week in the nfl. and, yes, the gop s benghazi obsession. but, first, we want to give you an update from the philippines where officials say 10,000 people could be dead from friday s devastating typhoon. characterized as a state of calamity. last night u.s. defense secretary chuck hagel announced u.s. forces are headed to the pacific islands to aid in search and rescue efforts. among the organizations that you can contact for information on how to help, you can reach out to the red cross, unicef, save the children. and we will be posting a additional information on our facebook page. we re now going to turn back to politics. coming off his re-election win tuesday, new jersey governor chris christie took a victory lap on the sunday talk show circuit this morning. again his message at championing his record as a state leader. not surprisingly, dipping his toe in the 201 wa6 waters. at the end of the day what did we see in new jersey on tuesday? 61% of the votes statewide. people voted on the record of what we ve done. i m proud of it. how that plays any place else is for all the washington pundits to figure out. i m the governor of new jersey. that s my job. that s what i asked for, for four more years. all four years? listen, who knows? i don t know. not so fast on the 2016 talk. there s still a lot of work to do before the mid-terms in 2014. budget takes will continue this week. we know there ll be more headlines on the affordable care act. potential votes on enda and the minimum wage. sunday forecasters today, jonathan capehart. jackie kucinich. thanks to you both for joining me today. thanks, karen. i want to start with you, jonathan. you ve got chris christie. he s looking to 2016 even if he won t admit he s talking to 2016. it seems as though there s this dynamic if you listen to what he said and others said. there s this inside/outside washington, i m not of washington. then you ve got the sort of sarah palin, ted cruz sort of establishment, nonestablishment dynamic. what s going on with the gop? i wish i knew. i think a lot of people within the gop wish they knew what was going on. look, chris christie is he is an outsider by washington standards. he s governor. he s clearly outside of washington. he s actually getting things done. they re not getting anything done in washington. yet he s also someone who is he is a conservative. but by the republican party standards right now, he can be viewed as a moderate. and someone as we saw by his landslide election in new jersey, a republican who democrats feel comfortable voting for. that makes him, i think, to the gop establishment that s trying to wrest the party back from the tea party, an inside player who could, i think, republican mainstreamers are hoping he can pull the party back to the middle and regain the white house. if he can get the nomination. you know, jackie, it certainly seems like the talking point for republicans since tuesday has been to refer they have, like, chris christie now to sort of refer to the sane wing of the gop. i think they re grateful to not just have ted cruz in their face. they actually have someone else they can point to. to some degree it feels like it s a little bit overblown. again, chris christie is more conservative than i think we are talking about. sort of more broadly. and he s certainly, if he runs for president in 2016, will have to pay homage and get through a republican primary. the idea of christie kind of paying homage to a faction that disagrees with him is kind of it ll be interesting. it ll be interesting to see. but, yeah. i think the republican establishment is acutely aware of the issues that they have. you saw that when you look at ken cuccinelli s race. i think there were some in the republican party on the establishment side who wish he would have lost by a little more. it showed maybe the tea party didn t have as much of a grasp as they do on the party. you also saw that in the alabama special. they are acutely aware. they are watching. they are trying to figure out a way out of this. for the time being they re looking at 2014. trying to figure out a way to keep their candidates from being primaried, a whole range of thing. quickly, jonathan, you wrote this week about the comparison between chris christie and rudy giuliani that s being made. talk about that. the headline is president christie, meet president giuliani. as you have right there. they re both former prosecutors. they re both chief executives of northeastern cities. both two termers now. but they re also both thin skinned. they both have reputations. i write in the piece that, you know, that whole thing christie has of being in people s faces. remember, gail, the one who questioned whether he sent his kids to public or private schools. i got into a fight with chris christie on this air, msnbc. that plays well here in the northeast media market. it plays well to people around the country who are looking for someone who s a fighter. but they don t want to see that in a president. they don t want to see a mean, nasty president. i don t think it s going to play well in iowa. in those early states that he s going to need. r rudy giuliani s was america s mayor. he was a big, big hero when he ran for president. look what happened to him. right. jackie, i want to switch gears a little bit. i guess, what is it, 13 more working days, i should say, for congress. i think the rest of us have quite a few more than that till the end of the year. still a lot of big things, big ticket items. it was interesting. looking at this through the lens of the implications of 2014, one of the things that really gained some momentum last week is the minimum wage. he was suggesting particularly the closer we get to 2014, the actual election, the easier they think it will be to get a deal and get republicans on board with that. because it s clearly so popular within the country. i think if i get through the senate again, you re going to have trouble getting it through the house. the house republicans in particular have already ticked off the business community. this isn t something the minimum wage increase isn t something particularly popular with the business community. i just don t see that coming up. i don t think it ll get through the gop house because of how it s made up right now. do you think, jackie, does that mean democrats have sort of there s this question of whether or not they ve got leverage kind of, you know, the republicans, they shut the government down. although you could say that the obama care conversation has kind of distracted from that. and that democrats want to use that sort of leverage against the gop to kind of put the pressure on, to get the minimum wage done, to maybe even get enda done which i think that s going to be even tougher. it sounds like you re saying there s not going to be any kind of leverage. it s hard to have leverage if you can t even get it to the floor. there s that. and john boehner has got no problem saying, i m not even going to put it on the floor. and blaming other people. the other thing jonathan, we ve got going next week, we ve got the second round of the budget talks. a great quote from patty murray, who is leading the efforts for democrats from the senate side. she said in a piece this weekend, quote, i taught preschool. you don t walk into a class with 4-year-olds without a direction of where you re going to go. so she clearly is walking in like she s got her plan of what she s going to do. but paul ryan has a plan, too. it does not sound very much like her plan. no. i would add sort of corollary to her great quote, which is, yeah, it s great to have a plan. but when you walk into a classroom filled with pyromaniacs, your plan goes awry. goes poof? yes. we saw in 2011 with the debt ceiling crisis that the republican party in the house had no problem bringing the nation to the brink. we saw with the government shutdown of just a month ago that this is a party that was really they shut down the government and they were willing to destroy the full faith and credit of the united states. so patty murray might have a plan. and she might even be able to get it through the senate. but once it goes to the house, the pyromaniacs will blow it up. i couldn t say it better myself. we will leave it there. thanks so much, jonathan capehart and jackie kucinich. thanks, karen. next, miami dolphins guard richie cincognito broke his silence earlier today characterizing his relationship with teammate jonathan martin which he allegedly bullied as a close friendship. later, nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel joins me live onset to 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[ male announcer ] in stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy and more, swanson makes holiday dishes delicious. this isn t an issue about bullying. this is an issue of my and jon s relationship where i may i ve taken stuff too far. and i didn t know it was hurting it. did jonathan martin overreact? or jonathan was hurting that much? i can t sit here and tell you who overreacted, who did what. i can just sit here and be accountable for my actions. and my actions were coming from a place of love. after a week of being a media target over accusations of bullying teammate jonathan martin, embattled miami dolphins defensive lineman richie incognito broke his silence earlier today. he reframed the relationship saying he s not a bully, not a racist, but a friend to martin. a good friend. he tried to paint the entire episode as a misunderstanding fumed by those unfamiliar with the culture inside nfl locker rooms. for example, he explained a vulgar voice mail he left his fellow teammate in this way. i m embarrassed by it. i m embarrassed by my actions. but what i want people to know is the way jonathan and the rest of the offensive line and how our teammates, how we communicate, it s vulgar. it s not right. when the words are put in the context, i understand why a lot of eyebrows get raised. but people don t know how jon and i communicate to one another. that s the explanation. this is just the vulgar world he and martin worked side by side in. those who don t know the culture, don t know the whole story. he also said martin knew and participated in that culture, using the n word himself and even once leaving incognito a text message that most of us would also find shocking. now, that s his side. we still haven t heard from martin himself on what led to his leaving the miami dolphins. his lawyer has said that in addition to enduring racist insults and threats from incognito martin was also the victim of a malicious physical attack from a teammate. we also have not heard from the nfl and the team, both of whom are investigating. but this episode gives new insight behind the curtain of the nation s most popular sport. joining me now, cynthia lohan, producer and writer of the acclaimed documentary bully. and a football coach at anacostia high school in washington, d.c. i want to start with you. one of the things in listening and watching the interview earlier today, it struck me, incognito, his goal was clearly to kind of clean this up a bit, obviously. but the sort of conversation around the nfl locker room culture, which even if you agree, i again, that this is part of that culture, i think some of us would still find elements of that culture disturbing and certainly could see how it leads to the kinds you know, a place where it can easily cross the line. well, yeah. you know, the locker room is just that. you know, most of the time you have it s a situation for the players where, you know, the coaches really don t come around. you really have your veterans or in a collegiate situation, your seniors, other leaders in that locker room. every locker room has its own personality, and it s different. but it is a place that s different than most people would ever, you know, understand or experience. and it is things happen. and things go on in the locker room that are different than your normal workplace. so i think it s really you know, to sum it up, you have to look at it from outside looking in, but from a person who s been in numerous locker rooms with different personalities and different people, i think it s just kind of been the way of life in terms of certain behaviors taking place. but, i mean, like you say, you ve been in this locker room culture. now as a coach, i assume you see at the high school level, i mean, do you have concerns about it going too far? i mean, one of the things i thought was interesting in the interview is after the fact, there was this conversation with terry bradshaw and howie long and they were feeling like, you know, this is a little different than when they were in the locker room. i can imagine, you know, over time things have changed. i would imagine that before we had all the media outlets, you know, then, in their time, i would imagine some of the other things that, you know, that were acceptable behavior. i ve talked to some old players that said, hey, you know, after practice there was beer sitting in the locker room. that was part of the culture. you look at even, say, baseball. where back in the day they used to smoke cigarettes in between the innings. you know, that was the culture of the game then. i think things have evolve and things have changed. but i do think it is the responsibility of the veterans and of the leaders of the team to control it. you don t want you never want things to get out of hand. even in my situation where as the head coach, i told my guys, hey, you know, the locker room is your place. you guys need to control it, keep it clean. make sure everybody feels comfortable. but at the same time, it s your place. do what you guys do away from the coaches, away from the school. but, hey, let s keep it, you know, still a safe environment. but, you know, cynthia, i guess what struck me when this story, you know, we ve learned more throughout the week, i should say. but as this story was coming out, you know, and people were sort of shocked and surprised, i sort of thought, well, wait a second. we ve just spent as a country having this conversation about bullying. your film was out. we ve been talking about it. why should we be surprised to see it s happening in football of all places, a confrontational sport. a lot of testosterone. when we know at the lower grades we see that behavior starting and we have also learned, incognito, this is a behavior that apparently he s had he was bullied himself, but also he bullied others as a younger person. yeah. i mean, i think these are patterns that we establish early on in life. i think there are places we find in our communities and our schools where bullying is allowed to foster. it s no surprise that kids are being bullied on the bus. why? there are certain elements. there s a lack of supervision. there s a way in which it s kind of a lord of the flies situation. the powerful reign. now that we threw the film is one of those ways in which we pulled a curtain back on a place in our country which everyone knows, everyone has experienced. looking at it through that lens saying, wait a minute. what s going on here? this is an opportunity. we re having this moment. wait a minute, this is something we took as a norm. for a long time bullying was a norm. kids being kids. it took a lot of tragedies, young people hurting other people, hurting themselves for us to say, how can we say this is normal? that s what we re seeing. i think it s a real moment of opportunity. cato, to that point, again, i feel like these behaviors, we see them starting at younger ages. you re obviously working with high school students. do you feel like with what you re seeing, you have the opportunity to, as you said, you kind of let your guys do what they have to do. but how do you kind of make sure it doesn t cross the line and step in and sort of make sure people understand when it s gone too far? in the high school setting, it s a little different because you re dealing with, you know, teenagers that, you know, that s kind of been part of the culture for them. isn t that i guess my question is, like, should it still be? if we now see that, like, potentially those kids could grow up and be confronting this kind of situation, does that maybe say to us, hey, maybe we ought to take a step back and take a look at this? i think there is something to say about you know, i don t want to say bullying is a part of the culture. i m saying that certain rights of passages for, you know, to go from, you know, hey, i m a freshman. now when i get to a senior, i have a little more power and authority. and to walk those you know, that ladder and earn your keep. those are slightly different than saying, hey, this guy is just getting bullied. one could look at it, say, hey, the freshman got to carry the shoulder pads and bring all the stuff in every day. you know, that could be seen as bullying. or it could be seen as, hey, these people are earning you know, earning a right to be a part of the team and earning their keep and growing. i think there is a place for, you know, earning your keep. but to get bullied or to get abused, i think, is something completely different. i don t think anything is wrong with that. cynthia, i guess, what i think your film showed so elegantly and so painfully is there is a point at which it feels like what we kind of say, well, boys will be boys. this is a right of passage can be very dangerous. particularly in the culture that we re living in now. certainly at the younger ages, frankly eve n in this case, the bullying is happening everywhere. it s on your cell phone, online, in person. one of the things i don t unfortunately have time to play the sound. but i thought it was interesting to hear incognito describing himself as a friend when in your when in your film, you talk about the fact that, in fact, the victim certainly tries to befriend the bully as a strategy. absolutely. this is something that we see among teenagers. it s something we see in the film with alex. i think it s painful to have to admit that what is going on is bullying. we all want acceptance. we all want to be supported. and, you know, supported by our communities. i think it can take a long time for someone who s a victim of bullying to stop and say, wait a minute, this goes beyond what i m comfortable with. what i think is acceptable. and, you know, what i think i want to promote and be part of. and to to say that bullying somehow makes someone stronger i think is a total fallacy. i think the things that make people stronger are figuring out how do we use power responsibly? how do we teach young people, especially those with power, especially those with a lot of social cache, to stick up for the ones around them. the real act of courage in the situation is not taking part in beating audiota ining up a coll teammate, in high school another student, but having the courage to stand up and say this isn t right. this isn t how we want to use our power. cato, final question to you. the other element to this was there is a racial element to this. there have been a couple of people who pointed out, you had african-american players on the team actually defending incognito. a lot of people on the team saying they were so surprised that this was jonathan martin s reaction. but a lot of eyes raising and even incognito admitted today he probably shouldn t be using the n word. that s not something he should be throwing around. what to you make of the sort of racial dynamic. i think it made me very uncomfortable. it certainly seemed like a locker room where you have that kind of tension going on and that kind of confrontation, the racial element added into it just adds a whole other dimension. i think the locker room can be a very crass and vulgar environment. to some. because you have you have you have the whole spectrum. you know, you have people from east coast, west coast, south, north. you have muslims, christians, mormons. i mean, you have a it s a melting pot of people and personalities. and, you know, things will happen. things will be said. but i don t think the racial piece here is i don t want to say that s the big thing. because i think anybody will say, hey, there s no place for, you know, racial slurs. right. or abusing anyone s religion or, you know, ethnicity. there s no place for that in any anywhere. locker room or not. all right. cato, unfortunately. i m sorry. we re going to have to leave it there. we are out of time. thank you so much for your insights. cynthia lowen, thank you. next, the most respected news magazine in america disgraced anoth e disgraced. another benghazi hoax bites the dust. it hasn t stopped the republican witch hunt. that s coming up. but still serving. on the job and in our communities. whose dedication and commitment to excellence continues. in every mission, whatever it may be. affecting our lives every day. for your continued service, we salute you. this message of appreciation to our nations veterans is brought to you by paralyzed veterans of america and unitedhealth group. 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wrong. the day of the retraction fox news devoted a whopping 26 seconds to the real scandal. i m sure it probably got lost amid all the obama care bashing that day. joining me now to discuss the benghazi backtrack is someone who was on the story from the very beginning. david brock, founder of media matters. and co-author of the benghazi hoax. david, thank you so much for joining me. thanks for having me on. i want to start with sort of how things unfolded this week. as i noted, you guys, media matters, was on this story from the beginning. and yet it wasn t until the new york times reported that people started to take a look and say, hmm, maybe there s something here. sure. yeah. well, the day after the 60 minutes report aired, we monitored the fox news channel. one of the hosts there disclosed they had been working with this source on a number of stories. but that they stopped when he demanded money. and so that was that was the first flag. then, of course, you have the issue of a right wing publisher. the author does a deal with the publisher. this is a publisher that publishes the likes of glenn beck. and then starts to work with 60 minutes on the story. so that was the second flag. then, of course, the washington post broke the story that showed that 60 minutes put a liar on the air. you know, david, here s one of the things that strikes me. some folks in the last couple of days have pointed out that, perhaps, cbs was trying to appeal to conservatives. but it also, i have to say, it feels to me like there s a false equivalency that underlines all of this. that is, you know, because there were real scandals in the bush administration, i am talking about outing a cia agent. i am talking about lying our way into war. they re going to create a scandal under a democratic president where there really is not one. where they re sort of creating it out of hole cloth. it feels like at times some in the media feel like they have to cover it with a kind of equivalency. oh, yeah. i definitely think that there s a game that s played to lay some blame on both sides. find some skacandals on both sides. in this case we ve done a book in media matters, the benghazi hoax, we ve looked carefully at the record here, and everybody who s known about this story and followed this story for the last 13 months knows that there s nothing there. that the idea that this is a scandal is a hoax. 60 minutes, i guess, didn t know that. they spent a year, supposedly, on this investigation. i think the next question is what are they going to do tonight? we need an independent investigation to ensure cbs viewers of accountability and standards. we cannot trust the people who were involved in this. after the washington post story ran that i mentioned, they covered up, they stone walled for a week. laura logan blamed partisan critics. i guess she might have been referring to media matters. yeah, we re a progressive organization. but we ve had this story right for 13 months. they had it wrong. i m going to send a copy of the benghazi hoax to laura logan for bedtime reading. i think you should. i want you to come back afterwards so we can talk about how we think cbs continues to clean this one up. because we know the story is not going away. darrell issa will still be on it. thank you, david brock. thanks a lot. coming up, no deal. talks with iran on nuclear weapons fizzle as events around the region spiral out of control. having just returned from the region, i ll talk live in studio with the one and only, richard engling. 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be very skeptical. iran is a country that has promoted terrorism. with past as prologue, we have to be very wide eyed about what these negotiations are. and what we accept. we are not blind. and i don t think we re stupid. we are absolutely determined that this would be a good deal or there ll be no deal. joining me now, nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel who spends his career reporting from the front lines of some of the most dangerous regions in the world. just this week richard was honored with the excellence in international reporting award from the international center for journalists. richard, congratulations. good to be in your studio. let s start with iran. it seemed like in part the dynamics there, he s able to be very gregarious. some have suggested because they know kerry, aka president obama, have kind of a wacky congress to deal with at home which would make a deal more complicated on our end. he can enter these talks and look gregarious, look like he s trying to do a deal knowing he may not end up having to do one at all. i think there is more to it than just an attempt to placate the domestic politics here. you have what appears to be an opening from iran. you have a new administration. you have rouhani in power. apparently with the blessing of the country s supreme leader reaching out to the united states. making a phone call. in this case receiving a phone call. but being on the phone with president obama. and then now talks that were a couple of days ago very promising. cover of all the newspapers. headlines on nbc news. that a deal, tentative deal, between the u.s. and iran was going to happen. now, this deal, if it had happened, would have seen iran taking some measures to slow back its nuclear program. to dial it back. in exchange for easing of some core sanctions. basically, banking sanctions. making it more difficult for or making it easier for iran to engage in international commerce, to trade some of its oil. and there would be a watch and wait and see period, perhaps, for six months. this deal could still happen. it didn t happen this weekend. but it could still happen. even the framework that was being talked about a couple days ago as we saw president netanyahu, the israelis, not supportive at all. absolutely not. the israelis don t like this. the saudis don t like this. some of the key u.s. allies in the middle east are very skeptical of iran. you played some clips of people in this country skeptical as well. we ve also seen some of the gop leaders were using that to sort of raise i think across the spectrum fair concerns about can we really trust a deal with iran. let s take a look at what we re dealing with here. for the last couple of years, iran has been squeezed almost to the breaking point. iran has been under incredibly tight sanctions. if you live in tehran, you basically can t do business with anyone else. you can t trade. when you want to transfer money right now, you, karen, want to send some money to a foreign bank, you enter in a swift code or aba code. the recipient s bank account number. you send the money and pay a small transaction fee and it takes a day or two if it s overseas. you can t do that in iran. not if you re a business. not if you re an individual. you can t use credit cards. so it s very difficult to live. you have a situation with almost hyperinflation going on in iran right now. that s been for the last several years. israel thinks this is working. and the united states thought for a while, this is working. the question is, if iran is now coming to the table and saying, we want out. we are willing to take some steps to change the dynamics that maybe you should at least engage. but you have to go in with your eyes wide open. also very quickly, iran, this is also connected to what s happening in syria. because, i mean, iran has been a part which is a whole sort of proxy war mess. so the broader regional concerns about what does this deal actually mean for the region, i think is something we haven t quite started to look at yet. well, if you re smart. if iran really is coming to the table and iran says, listen, we were in a box. we have a real problem here. we have a new administration. perhaps there s a way to get things going. if you re smart, you don t just focus on the nuclear program. and iran, by the way, doesn t call it a nuclear program. of course. iran calls ate nuclear not a nuclear weapons program. they call it a nuclear energy program. of course. israel doesn t believe that. they say, no, they are trying to allow themselves to be ready to make a nuclear weapon. that they want to put all the pieces together so that in the last minute, you could quickly throw them all together and have a nuclear weapon. as if what they re trying to do is build all the motorcycle parts and have them all out on a blanket in front of them so that if push came to shove, they could put it together and build a motorcycle. yeah. what this deal would try and do would slow that process down. make it more difficult for them to make that final assembly process work. but if you re smart, you don t just look at that. you also say, listen. we want some other things from you. mm-hmm. iran is the only regime right now along with russia, but iran even more so in a tactical point of view. russia is providing syria with the political cover. the weapons as well. but iran is on the ground with advisers, people involved in day-to-day battles. so if you re smart and you see an opening and some leverage from iran you say, listen, okay. we can talk about these parts that you have here. we want to slow this process down. or even make it impossible so that you could ever assemble something. we d also like you to let s take a look over here at what you re doing. take a look at syria and see what else you can get out of them for the absolute atrocities that are continuing in syria. richard engel, i wish we had more time. there s so many more 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in pruitt s home state of missouri it was perfectly legal for her rapist to demand custody. and in 30 other states it is also perfectly legal. every year there are between 25 and 32,000 women in this country who get pregnant from rape. at least a third of them choose to keep and raise the children. but only 19 states have laws addressing parental rights for children conceived through rape. and even those come with major caveats. in idaho, for example, the state will only restrict visitation rights if the victim was a minor at the time of the rape. 13 states require a rape conviction before they ll even step in on custody issues at all. and just six states allow victims to petition for full termination of a rapist s parental rights. ohio is one of the states with no law on the books about parental rights for rapists. think of it this way. when ariel castro made a plea for visitation with his young daughter, the daughter who was a result of the repeated rape of her mother, amanda berry, you know, of the three women castro imprisoned and abused for a decade, that was totally legal. now, that, to me, is crazy. joining me now are two people who ve seen firsthand the insanity of these laws and are fighting to change them. angela brog s daughter, piper, was raped at 14 and became pregnant. they re now embroiled in a custody battle with piper s attacker. kyle cargas is a film maker whose new documentary 31 states focuses on this very topic. angela and kyle, thank you so much for joining me. thank you for having us. thank you. angela, i want to start with you. just tell your story and piper s experience. because i know it s an ongoing case. yes, it is. our daughter was 14. and it was christmas 2010. and some young men who a friend of hers went to school with came over to have christmas game night. and we were making pizzas and such. getting ready for the holidays. along with them came a young man who was in the military. home on christmas exodus. and came to our home. met us. and then he proceeded to rape our daughter that night. we would not find out about it for another 5 1/2 months. we found out on mother s day weekend of 2011. and the first thing i thought about when she told me was that very night with that young man shaking my husband s hand in our kitchen saying thank you. i became physically ill. and stayed that way for some time. i was very conflicted what to do. of course, she was a child. i didn t want to go forward with this pregnancy. just tell me where in terms of where you are now in relation to what s happening with piper and this man? well, we obviously we continued the pregnancy. i m so grateful to the lord that we did. noah is a blessing to our family. and we went through we had a criminal trial. we had a court martial this past december. he was found not guilty. the military only has a not guilty/guilty. now we are in a battle for custody of my grandson. he has petitioned the court for full custody. kyle, that just sounds crazy to me. that s part of why you re doing this film. quickly, tell us why 31 states how you got involved in this project and what your goal is with it. sure. this all started from an interview with shawna pruitt on cnn which you talked about earlier. and i saw that interview. and i had just done a psa on stopping sexual violence with that was directed by mark medoff. for the coalition here. and it got off really good. and i saw that the premise, silence is the enemy, really is the enemy in all these cases. and no one s talking about this. the more and more you look this up on google, that s it is out there. and it is so much so that it s overwhelming. thank you both. i m sorry we don t have more time. it s such an important issue. i hope people will check out the website for 31 states and learn more information. angela, good luck to you and your daughter. thank you very much. that does it for me. thanks so much for joining us. we will see you next saturday. road closed? 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