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democrats to beat sanders in these two states. clinton gives him more momentum. no doubt those supporters are doing good. they're now back feeling very good. if hillary loses in iowa, a guy that most of the democratic establishment should be close to right now and then she loses in new hampshire, you have biden,
of trump by one point but sanders tops him by 19. apparently unboldened by those numbers, sanders had this to say. >> i would urge tse voters and voters all over this cntry to take a look at resent polls in which bernie sanders is matched with republican candidates on down. if people are concerned about elect blt and democrats should be very concerned, i think bernie sanders is the candidate. >> mark, look at the numbers, especially in new hampshire where bernie sanders is doing about 12-13 points better than hillary clinton, suddenly, the argument swings against clinton and towards sanders. >> we've been saying for months he's got to win here in iowa and
gore, carrie who start moving and start saying maybe we need to get into the race. that's the discussion that's going on right now. >> i am not making, offering my opinion. >> okay. >> i am being a reporter saying those close to john carrie and joe biden have said specifically that if she loses iowa and new hampshire, they're going to have to take a much closer look on
the numbers, especially in new hampshire where bernie sanders is doing about 12, 13 points better than hillary clinton against donald trump, suddenly the electability argument swings against clinton and towards sanders. >> we've been saying here for months he's got to win in iowa and new hampshire has to be in play. the electability argument is something she's pushing back on. you look at the messaging from the clinton campaign, she says she's the one that can stop trump from winning and going after issues relating to guns. sanders is confident. i spent yesterday evening with him. saw him doing an event rallying his supporters. it's not a confidence born of mistaken understanding by what's going on. he sees what's going on. he's confident. doesn't count her out. but this is a fight in two states. if you wake up in new hampshire and he's won them both, it's a
happening and then you're in a cacoon. but it all starts with a limousine, especially the ones with the black windows. >> good morning. welcome to "morning joe." with us, nicole wallace, harold ford jr. in des moines iowa, managing editor of bloomberg politics, mark halperin and msnbc political analyst robert costa. you hear the voice? >> i hear the voice. it's a voice everybody's heard for 45, 50 years maybe. david bowie, an extraordinary artist able to reinvent himself time and time again. you know, from ziggy stardurst forward and of course for many of us, in our age now i'll just say myself old, his serious moonlight tour in the 1980s is when david bowie transformed
new hampshire to put this into play. that elect blt argument is something she's pushing back on. >> sanders is confident. it's not a confidence born of mistaken, understanding of what's going on. he sees what's going on. don't count her out but this is a fight in these two states. if you wake up in new hampshire and hooets won them both, it's a totally different world. >> you've been saying for some time he can win both states. you're looking not only is he ahead in iowa and new hampshire and the two states all these candidates are judged by, you look at the fundraising totals
i think a lot of people think that could change. we have a little time here. if mrs. clinton does not perform well in either of these states, then this conversation will start. >> it's the same mistake republicans made. >> you say we have time left but on a couple weeks left. >> mrs. clinton lost iowa to senator obama. the thinking was that senator obama would be empossible to stop. she went on to win new hampshire and lost the nomination, performed well throughout. if she loses both, that conversation -- >> we've underestimated bernie sanders and i -- >> why would the democrats be immune from the disgust? they've won washington for years. the notion that it wouldn't color --
where he's raising $27 per contribution, he looks like he's built to last. look at what happens if hillary loses to bernie sanders in new hampshire. go to south carolina and things will get better then. the whole world changes quickly if clinton loses both iowa seasoned new hampshire, does it not? >> the world changes. i don't know how. i defy anybody in politics to say how. she's not popular enough with
i saw a number of 20% of democrats saying they would jump across lines if donald trump is the nominee. >> one of the key questions for the independent voters in new england, trump was in vermont and new hampshire. if sanders wins iowa and comes to new hampshire, where do the independents vote? republican side for trump or democratic side for sanders? >> tell me, you're out there all the time. talk about these polls. in iowa, it seems to be a dead heat between trump and cruz. >> i think the story was establishment fights establishment. trump has been relentless in going after senator cruz talking about his position and birth in canada. it's everywhere. >> what about producing his
totally different world. >> you've been saying for some time he could win both states before the rest of us said that. you look not only the fact he's ahead in iowa, ahead in new hampshire, the two states all of these candidates are going to be judged by primarily, and then you look at the fund-raising totals last week where he's raising like $30 million a kwar average contribution, $27 per contribution, he looks like he's built to last. talk about what democrats are quietly saying happens if clinton loses new hampshire. the whole world changes very quickly if clinton loses iowa and new hampshire, doesn't it? >> it changes but we can't say