thanks for watching fox news saturday night with jimmy failla. set your dvr to 10:00 p.m. eastern every saturday on fox news and don t forget on social media and i everybody calm down to her, hey girl. parks across america.com and listen to my radio show weekdays noon to 3:00 p.m. good night from new york city. it can be they republican, you can be a democrat, just don t be a [bleep]. there is. joey jones and charlie hurt, welcome to the big weekend show . the big boy tonight, calm, circumstance and politics for president biden in paris, biden telling the world that climate change is the only existential crisis to humanity. then claims is the son of the american revolution. what has correspondent peter doocy with the president tonight in paris. where the sun is setting what president biden is trying to say, he thinks putin could move further into alluding to the fact that a different dictator did that here in france, not that long ago. i meant france for the leadership as well. over 107 billion dollars in ukraine since the war began because you know what happened. there is a greater that can t be battled with standing armies or drones. the president said during a brief statement, it s climate change directly work together for peace and stability like good security and counterterrorism. that threat of climate change growing later working together to accelerate to net zero. only existential threat to humanity including nuclear weapons is that we do nothing on climate change. i could go on. president biden and first lady attended equity stake dinner a palace denver nuggets. tomorrow morning they will light a refund world war i memorial before jetting off to delaware. with us. thanks guys, gorgeous. what you think, existential threat of climate change is the only word? if you go with the horror movie and make climate change the only existential threat, you need to. the problem is he s making his mixing it with others like vladimir putin and. nuclear war. maybe i misread this but the way i heard him and who knows what he s saying ever but i thought he said including nuclear weapons, climate change is still the only existential threat which raises the question like thank god this guy isn t in charge of protecting the united states from auto, nuclear war. it does seem to be the same he focuses on regularly climate change in general so he s fitting it into a broader message about democracy and ukraine and the things the man was a what is important to president joe biden, climate change, he thinks it s an exit central threats to democracy it s funny, he said we know what happens if putin succeeds and he didn t say this because of where he was in the 80th anniversary don t want to talk about the campaign but media has, we know what happens of donald trump wins the election. there is this constant comparison by many on the left that trump is just like putin, i ll go further, the clinton said it hitler and that is the scare tactic they are trying to say. he must vote blue because of the don t, you will see what happens. there will be no more democracy and three branches of governm government. president biden does seem to get out there and enjoy telling a good story once in a while and me but genealogist to work with this one. one thing that s been election to my family is my middle name. allegedly i ve been told i my grandfather not going to get, maybe someone could help me, i am a son of the american revolution because he came over with lafayette and never went home. stayed in the united states it makes me a son of the american revolution the middle of the story, the french pronunciations he worked in, i love it. what you think, are you a son of the american revolution? i am a son of a penal colony so my ancestors were indebted came in for hard labor. [laughter] he pronounced his own name two different ways that. i can t get over that, is it robin a, robinette he s inferring whoever that is, was french so he s been irish, he s been italian, he s been mexican and puerto rican, he s been some version of african-american and now french. he is the baskin-robbins of presidents, we love him. [laughter] this is not something we should even concern ourselves with. it s not what you hope they can, is just no concern, he s lied his way all the way to the top of our government we obviously as a voting demographic except these lies. we let someone you play dress and lie about important things like how his family was killed in a car wreck and let him lie about his son and everything. let him lie about being french, do you want to be french? i want to be french. fine, go ahead at least get the right country though. i was impressed he dropped the french pronunciation in french, that s a step in the right direction. i think it was coincidental. [laughter] he corrected himself a few moments later. he touched we touched on this a few moments ago, the subject of democracy must make sure you are worried about democracy, take a listen. they understood democracy as democracy. here we prove i guess of our democracy when democracy is at risk across the world in world war ii, we defend democracy. it s never guaranteed. talk about democracy. american democracy. american democracy democracy. democracy. political calling it a wake up call to americans but it seems fear mongering may not be working. this is in newport beach, california, hundreds of trump supporters lined the streets as a former president) fundraiser. this crowd, liberal californ california [chanting] two days ago in san francisco trump raised $12 million at the silicon valley fundraiser. my house was sold out and by the way, the protesters outside, those were broke trump demonstrators. the number of people who were protesting against trump, there s maybe a couple dozen versus hundreds who are broke trump so even on the streets, a tremendous enthusiasm gap and that s what s happening in the broke san francisco, what does that tell you throw the country? so much money in politics is mind blowing and this is postconviction. it is liberal campuses. 85% of san francisco voted for president biden in 2020. i thought the number would have been higher. if you are republican in san francisco or even california for the most part, you re in witness protection. now you have, for years later, broke trump rally outside and the man who endorsed donald trump, venture capitalist, a popular podcast, he represents ingenuity and what we are seeing from the biden tc, biden d.o.j. is trying to strangle american innovation and what we do with artificial intelligence and etc. they don t like that. the law like but now that they are hosting a dinner for the president, former president and having supporters outside, it is mind blowing. there s this headline, it may mark the end of an american era. this cnn, no time since june 6, 1944 has the unshakable u.s. leadership of the west and support for international values has been so in question, democracy facing stern tests generations from far right populism. i think if you believe in i don t know what that person means but internationalist world order but if you believe in america first like donald trump thus, you believe in a strong concerned about american interests first that includes having a strong hand abroad. what it does mean is launching in two unnecessary wars or allowing unnecessary wars to happen and what we have seen president biden is supposed to be the world s greatest expert on foreign policy, we seen two wars start in the world because of his inability to govern and in america first agenda so i think it s all politics and you re right, the idea that joe biden is talking about concern for democracy is the party in america, democrats are trying to jail their primary opponent, nuts. final thoughts as we are talking about joe biden s perception of this threat to democracy. i guess, want to impeach someone twice and now convicted or found them guilty in several criminal court, more popular than they ever are, he speaks to what people are thinking at home. after january 6, trump didn t really hand them talking people casually observe politics, turned off by january 6 and have trump handled it, i can say that objectively. i was turned off, i thought it was ugly. now you fast-forward and they have this football they can run with and they spike it on third down. they don t use it, to go into this law fair and economy and foreign policy and national security are greatly more important to people then the character, no matter how you slice it, the individual who runs those policies he may believe biden is a good person, he s ruining the country. he may believe donald trump is the person we saw in the apprentice for ten years that makes comments in mexico all my god but think about where you were five years ago and that is the conversation, just can t hold? a lot of people care about kitchen table issues, that is for sure. coming up on the big weekend show [chanting] a stunning side-by-side as israel rescues hostages held by hamas since the seventh, thousands of pro- hamas protesters causing chaos steps from the white house. plus, facebook post that could throw out trumps conviction. also ahead, finished fanatical strike extremist? absurd claim about people who like to work out. welcome back to the big weekend show . for hostages held by hamas since october 7 are not home with the families and israel after baroque rescue by the idea. hours after rescue, chaos outside the white house at the hands of protesters all while the president is in france. i want to echo president macron s comments walking the rescue of hostages returning to the families. won t stop working until all hostages from home cease-fire is reached. chief washington correspondent mike emanuel the anti- israel protest in d.c. he is would here with us tonig tonight. good evening, protesters calling on president biden and his administration to stop sending bombs and military aid to israel. we are told some of the protesters here today travel as much as 16 hours ciattarelli in our nation s capital. the folks here are furious the president said israeli military operation would be a redline yet israel ignored him so protesters were read to create a human redline around the white house. joe biden, you may speak in our name but not with our consent. we charge you with genocide. it was designed to make us become quiet. protesters vandalized the statue of andrew jackson handprints suggesting the biden administration has blood on its hands. they used books raping to call for the boycott of israeli products. this was the third major pro- palestinian protest in washington over the past eight months. secret service took extra precautions with crowds expect expected. we heard free palestine and biden, biden, he will see. palestine will be free referring to the president is genocide j joe. of course president biden is in here, he is in paris. still, protesters sending a message to the president and his administration. thank you, mike. important to say in comparison of this moment on the left, pro, s supporters surrounded completely surrounding the white house with a red banner that protesters declare is there redline. they do not want the u.s. to support israel. on the right, pure joy of rescued hostages and families reunited after more than eight months. those hostages affected from the music festival. it is boggling we are even having to discuss this because it s amazing to think of these for hostages among over a hundred ducted and 120 we think are either now in custody but still in custody if they are still alive. emerging from captivity on this glorious day only to find out in washington d.c. there are protests in favor of their captors. i can t even wrap my brain around it is so insane cynical remarkable date and to see home, it s wondrous. one of the most recognizable hostages taken they and swept away from the music festival on the back of a motorcycle and one of the most torturous parts is hamas is given little information about the people that continued to hold among them, americans including : where they released video in april, a young man, american in california kidnapped had his arm blown off. miraculously survived in a forced video so remember there are still right now 100 hostages held and among them, americans. many headlines note many casualties as a result of this effort and successful rescue, a brave rescue but they were not being held, they want nothing elderly men and women and they take miraculous bravery, it wouldn t be necessary. miraculous day but there are two sides. these are not combatants held, these are innocent people at a music festival. joey, your among the few people that can imagine what this is like but israel lost a commando, portmanteau for others live. hamas only gives up one of their lives in an effort to kill people but the guy dies a hero obviously. i will take that everyday, if i die and for innocent people come home, that s why signed up for. they work but about a leader, commander so the way israeli army operates, their leader closing from what i ve read, it s a cultural thing food of the labor of going in he would never know that from these lunatics spray painting andrew jackson statue at the park. read handprints and the numbers in the headline of the washington post from the ap come from the health ministry gaza and consider the numbers because they have access to the hospitals and marks. i ll put numbers on because these facts could help inform the public debate about what is going on as many the size isra israel. sixty children killed in gaza climbed sharply, 64% of casualties after in october after the invasion and killing and in april it went down to 38%. did you see the headline in washington post and i would like to think it s a turn but maybe not. you will never find a case where israel intentionally killed innocent people. to get a heads up and they weren t about to do this. the entire tactic is to kill an object innocent people, the story and if that doesn t tell the difference in your hopeless i guess. coming up, social media, facebook post that could get trumps conviction thrown out. that s next. i still love to surf, snowboard, and, of course, skate. so, i take qunol magnesium to support my muscle and bone health. qunol s extra strength, high absorption magnesium helps me get the full benefits of magnesium. qunol, the brand i trust. welcome back to the big weekend show . possible bombshell and follow trunk trial. the judge notified trump defense team about facebook post : one of the jurors discussed guilty verdict with the family before the jury set up. the post said my cousin is adjourned incest trump is getting convicted. thank you folks, for all your hard work. trump campaign official those books and digital it is investigating the matter. it s important to note it s not verified the person who posted this can do any of the jurors but the judge sent a letter not just trumps team but the assistant da and if the judge is a letter that this person is akin to a juror it looks the judge like he s not on top of it so where to be dealt with this? i think this might delay it might delay the sentencing because trumps team will say let s push for an investigation and the judge has to bring in jurors say this is anyone s cousin? i go back to the way it s handled by the judge and the legal person for donald trump said why did you let these men and women go home for memorial day instead of sequestering them? high-profile unprecedented case is what is going to want to talk about and they would have spoken about with friends and family so if it s true must judge merchan might have wanted to do it in the beginning. i m in line with that, it makes the judge look kind of b bad. take all the things we ve heard from jonathan turley and others on the network how this is how a normal case would go and look at objectively 130 million people in this country, billions on social media block don t know if this person is legitimate and sent a letter to both teams and it seems like he would investigate that before you notify. you would think. you have to assume the judge knows more than we do. the judge knows more than what he put in the letter again, we have no idea if there is in relation the end of the cousin really is on a jury but you have to assume he knows more of the other thing is, the problem is the judge denied everything they ve made and what i saw, i thought maybe this is the off ramp where guy gets to embarrassing him self and it s out of doing whatever crazy think he ll do that will haunt him the rest of his career because the trial has to go down as the worst thing in his career so i don t have any faith that he will recognize that. next step is sentencing and applying for an appeal and is pushed out that way, is this grounds for mistrial? do you want a mistrial, what do you want? if you watch it, we seen a number of legal and was talking about transfer appeal that could potentially happen here in the course had but when it comes to specific individual who may or may not be a cousin of roger and the precise timing of the post before the deliberations, he had a 25% chance of being right no matter what the individual posted. i can t believe there are hundreds of thousands being investigated. it s like somebody tried to stir something up, carlo how real that is, a lot of questions house taken. the judge mentioned is so it takes it up, it has to be taken seriously and republicans are concerned. it seems a lot to me. there will columnist and attack on getting jacked claiming right wing if you work out. that s next. make sure you re watching one nation that o clock eastern ti time. there s me and then there is dana white. exclusive sit down with one of the most successful people in the country, advice for you and magic of donald trump and ufc plus keepsake except welcome back to the big weekend show . they say working out builds muscle. you need to go? i wasn t expecting company. this doing my workout. two says back. you asked me to come by. one liberal columnist, working out will turn you into a right wing jerk. she writes, you caps on and more energetic and you think you are master of your own destiny high on self-righteousness and you situate others problems within your failure. this is true if you don t know them and it s just a bunch numbers. these people with ibs, imagine how much better it would be they took responsibility for their health the way you have. charlie, you work out a lot. [laughter] i do the same and have the same results to show for it. or lady, she s confused and obviously bad at the gym and were set friday. she talks how she thinks is conservative to be the master of your own destiny and the cannabis and climbed the whole thing for independence, taking control of your life because you get to choose your own destiny. how is that a bad thing? i didn t disagree with the word of that. [laughter] i m sorry if i hurt your feelings. it might be the answer for a lot of people. where is the problem here? i didn t understand. she also says in the article, fitness has a capitalist logic because there s so much money in it so nothing is ever enough it as soon as you can run a 5k, you want to run ten was competing and striving for growth even of micro human strength. you have internalized market unfortunately. you re getting on everyone s nerves, does it change your mind? the whole premises if you work out, his ethical and legal and now set another one. stop the press, could you believe somebody would live their life that way? what are we supposed to do? they re supposed to wallow in our city believe the truth is we can t survive without the government, we can t take control of ourselves and lives in destiny, supposed to taken everything offered for all the symptoms we have, not change our diet or physical health, but big pharma from that. we are supposed to buy in to the system that makes us invalid every way possible because that s what makes naturally week or choosing to be weak people about i m sorry but i don t do it. i ve had my legs blown off in afghanistan and will be in the gym everyday and it makes me a jerk [laughter] right wing joke. [laughter] why bring politics into this? she s pretty for herself. i want to yield my time, i don t have enough to say but i googled about this to see if it was something emphasis fyi story five years ago, more likely to be right wing. a cousin to the studies so it s not the most original article of work. if you are republican, prettier, more attractive than the democrat a lot of people would defend that and say us because we republicans have more money, they can spend more on what they look like. to cinderblocks workout with. by choice. he lives an alternative lifestyle and is in good shape. one last thing on wheel of fortune so where do game shows go from here? we have that next. (birds chirping) well this isn t gonna work. try this. (celebratory choir sings) this. will work. scooore! pick up score! at walmart. a slow network is no network for business. that s why more choose comcast business. and now, we re introducing ultimate speed for business our fastest plans yet. we re up to 12 times faster than verizon, at&t, and t-mobile. and existing customers could even get up to triple the speeds. at no additional cost. it s ultimate speed for ultimate business. don t miss out on our fastest speed plans yet! switch to comcast business and get started for $49.99 a month. plus, ask how to get up to an $800 prepaid card. call today! welcome back to the big weekend show , the end of an era. sajak officially retired as the host of wheel of fortune, christina coleman more on his office from los angeles. millions of loyal viewers thank during his farewell speech something. big time has come to say goodbye and i ve always felt privileged came with responsibility to keep his daily our is a place for family. no social issues, no politics, nothing embarrassing. gradually became one of place where kids learn about us and people from other countries home and wish skills and famous concussion) neighbors and entire generations. what an honor to have played even a small part of the mexico city look or should 41 years and post a thousand episodes. every time he went to the show, he met three people from all parts of the wonderful country is that they were kind and considerate to write and talking of the family, friends and hometown. during his goodbye speech he expressed how great it was to work with dana white who cohosted the show with him 1982. i will miss our nightly closes and laughter and good nature. a very special one and i know you are all pleased to know joe be back next season ryan seacrest will post wheel of fortune from now on as for pat, he has his next gig lined up and will start a plane is in downtown duluth. he looks amazing. congrats to pat sajak and he had a nice thing to say, no politics, it s about the letters and something you can watch at the family cement pat sajak is a staple in my life, my grandmother watched the show and my mom watched the show and now about to turn 38, i ve never watched more in my life and i do now but my daughter, she s not about to going to kindergarten and in the letter show right now it s recognizing letters so it is a great thing to do with her and she loves it. got one right, he s a native veteran and a lot of people know that in my past life i would take groups of limited veterans show them around and go on site with different shows and end with the motorcycle ride so one trip i took on wheel of fortune last and they were in the middle of taping and we went in to look from the side and they stopped the taping thank you ñ-letter letters behind the. afterwards i found out they do that every time and every time, a group of veterans coming in the culture of the show, i wish him well but i will miss it a wonderful source look tough to follow macbeth is beautifully set beautifully set. the idea when you look around people s longevity and jobs, it s like eight years now and not only for a guy to do this for 41 years but do it with his partner 41 years is extraordinary. they had amazing chemistry, they really did. i said i wonder if they have an affair it was like no, never say that tv royalty it was the chemistry, relationship like brother and sister and they said an interview i did, they had one fight in 41 years. [laughter] was about whether a hotdog should catch up. she likes ketchup and mustard. speaking of, we have a clip from the 80s show hosted by chuck on fox nation. take a look. we love each other but very competitive. but no matter what happens, we will still love each other. [laughter] i wouldn t touch that with the forklift so here we go. deceptively simple around. i feel like you re not paying attention and it probably doesn t matter. [laughter] some punks sexy ladies. [laughter] doesn t stand a chance but you can see on fox nation it looks amazing. i m not into game shows, i am not a big wheel of fortune guy but i definitely will watch that for sure. shannon bream listen i love chuck, one of the og s just like the police exciting about the clip you shared that. the people in it it looks awesome. it is magnificent and is probably a suit of his. i am jealous i lived in the 80s decade but old enough to like that. the make up the apartment had a blast, for sure. they need to get me on. [laughter] fox nation s most of check in case much and now available on fox nation and stick around. big weekend flops are next. okay back to the big, it is the time for a big weekend flops these are big for what we think the biggest feels the week and i m going to go first, yes this one is pretty tough, hardly democratic town council, in wethersfield connecticut refused a thin blue line like to honor fallen to relate kind of duty. it is now been used by poison from certain other far right types of fruits and even many police department thoroughly country has indicated that i think it s a authorize or use that like to employment out of the city councilmember literally, that would was wondering do damage control for female number of female and don t remember her name is that some pretty important things and really, within blue line flight to racism and hatred in all be think about i guess what bothers me think of pride flag they flew to half mast of the american flag this one of the things were this bike has been around for hundred years enemies were going to memorialize those give their lives serving their community and if trying to hijack that, pushback and keep ownership of it and then to be it means from adobe so week pretty. it seems pretty simple okay major bill of the major discovery of essential for thousands of tons of lithium to be extracted annually from wastewater generated by tracking has been discovered a bit dirt dream difficult to refusing covenant have into the source it is further evidence, that that the whole environmentalism, green new deal, fa is a given to give more power to government and they do not actually want to solve anything because they cannot have a utopia without lithium and batteries. it is better for to get from china. [laughter] i guess right. porch pirates a doorbell camera captured footage of a thief fake amazon best posted as a delivery driver hazel packages from a home in massachusetts and so he walks up and he was dressed as a delivery driver within of the box and put them to box down on the porch and then stole the real box and porch piracy $8 billion a year theft in. there s one video pretty polls the box it blows up on him and i think everybody needs to be able to do that. go out. with dog manure. the latest bizarre food trended making the rounds of social media kcal bars smothering catch up yes and the skills here you go. and this is for you. no no no. this is a break me off moment, these are made it to be shared. that s not possible, that is not possible. the vertex, the vertex, charlie. no no no. i think the thing to do is you look awfully cancer first and then you eat the chocolate. this is an improvement on catch up. and the dozen for us and we will see you tomorrow the big we can show starts right now.
will: it s the 7 a.m. hour of fox & friends weekend starting with this, four israeli hostages are finally reunited with their families. the intel that led to this daring rescue. rachel: plus, calling in the cabinet, president biden dispatching his top secretaries to help sell legislative achievements in key battleground states. th if president can t wait to hear from them. and spreading salvation. hundreds of believers pack times square to worship jesus. that saved a wretch like me pete: that s amazing grace. that beats the normal times square vibe on a saturday rachel: yeah, what happened to times swear? i m liking this makeover. pete: i know. second hour of fox and friends weekend starts right now. if. turn it up and sing along if. rachel: did you want to guess that? it is tampa, florida. pete: i did. do you know, i ll confess, we have in this fancy new studio, we have fancy new screens that are different from the other studio. see, in tv you have what s happening on your tv x then you have a preview screen, and we get to see it. i was kind of hoping e got an eye of tampa, florida, but then when they showed it, they weren t going to show the identifier, but i would have already seen it, and i could say fam, florida, and you guys would be amazed, but they popped it rachel: the problem is we can all see tampa, florida. pete: well,, i was hoping you didn t catch it. that s all i m saying. [laughter] will: that was your scheme. pete: concocted in one second, but i m confessing right now. will: that s kind of how it works with you. pete: really? will: yeah. you did something wrong, then you confess [laughter] and then we offer forgiveness. pete: if i guess that s a good thing? rachel: it s a good thing you re a christian. pete: oh, man, i immediate that bad with. without grace, i d be with in a bad spot. [laughter] rachel: well, here we are, and we re grateful to all of you who are here with us this morning. will, pete, good morning. will: good morning. pete: thanks for joining us. stay in bed, don t get up and hope it s wonderful, beautiful weather wherever you re at. we start this hour with thousands of anti-israeli protesters descending on the white house upset with the biden administration over its response to the ongoing israel-hamas war. rachel: the destructive demonstrations coming as president biden wraps up his trip in france. will: madeleine rivera joins us now with the details. reporter: hey, guys. president biden is returning to wilmington, delaware, today. by the time he gets back to the white house, remnants of that massive pro-palestinian protest should be gone, but this was the scene on saturday, folks traveling from across the country to the nation s capital calling on president biden to stop sending military aid to israel. finish they wore red clothes and held a red banner around the white house. protesters say it symbolizes president biden s red line on rafah. president biden had said he would stop sending offensive weapons to israel if they carried out a major operation in the city. so far the president says israel hasn t crossed that line. clearly, the demonstrators feel he s compromised though on that pledge. to show their anger, they even vandalized a statue of andrew jackson with paint, making red hasn t prints hand prints suggesting the biden administration has blood on its hands. if as pro-a palestinian protesters showcased their fury, overseas in israel there was elation after four hostages reunited with their families. israeli forces rescued them in a daring operation. now we re learning that the united states reportedly helped with that mission if by providing intelligence on the hostages and if other logistic support. here s the president s reaction to the hostages returning home. i want to echo president macron s comments welcoming the safe rescue of four hostages that were returned to their families in israel. we won t stop working until all the hostages come home and a ceasefire is reached. that is essential to happen. reporter: the biden administration says it is continuing to support the release of the remaining 120 hostages through negotiations and other means. secretary of state antony blinken is heading back to the middle east tomorrow. will, and rachel. pete: madeleine, thank you. you know, those protests outside the white house are not getting small ifer if if democrats mauler. you feel like the restraints they re outing on israel is only prolonging the conflict which only prolongs their problem because they re not satisfying either constituency of their base, people that support israel, people that a support the palestinians in gaza, that has hamas. rachel: can and poem who aren t on either people who aren t on either side who just want peace mt. region pete: they re not going to get it. will: meanwhile, this rescue success of hostages is straight out of hollywood, straight out of the movies. a little bit earlier we had a former idf spokesperson, and he said to the us off camera, i believe, have you ever seen the israeli television show that you can see on netflix about potential forces running a lot of counterterrorism operations behind enemy lines in gaza, for example. or in the west bank. and he said it s pretty much exactly how this went down, this hostage rescue. this was him talking earlier to pete. what the israeli troops did was go in simultaneous ily, get the hostages out, and the more difficult part became actually the vehicle exfiltration. and this is a very densely populated area, very small alleys, very lots and lots of people around it. and what basically happened was that one of the vehicles got stuck. and when they got stuck, they came urn tremendous fire under tremendous fire, massive machine gunfire, rp if g rockets, it was a really intense situation. and then finally, thanks to an envelope of fire and the if israeli soldiers fighting their way with out, made their way towards the coast where who two helicopters awaited. the first helicopter took noa to safety, and the second helicopter took the other three israeli hostages out. pete: wow with. yeah, he gave a staggering amount of great information. it took great human intelligence and signal intelligence. ultimately, think of finishing auda meets black hawk down. once something had gone wrong and a vehicle was disabled even though they had the hostages, that s when hamas and the gazans swarmed x they couldn t move. and that s when the helicopters came in, the uniform aspect, and the fight got bigger. the volume of fire gets larger the you re going to will: and like those movie scenes, it s indistinguishable, militant versus is civilian when these vehicles get swarmed. everyone, a mob around it. once the israelis are here, disreillies are here is called out, and gunfire registers, it is a mob on the street. and he said to the us that is where most of the deaths on the palestinian side to occurred. at that point they have to call in the cavalry. at that point it s save the lives of the hostages and the operators. rachel: yeah. it was a remarkable rescue. it was not a release as cnn reported. it was a rescue, indeed. i m curious though, pete, i mean, i go to you because i don t know the answer to this, if anyone if on this couch does, it s probably you. what this is like for netanyahu domestically. he was receiving a lot of heat domestically in his own politics in israel because this were people saying focus if more on the hostages, less on the war. finish if is and here he is doing this. how is this all playing out in the domestic politics for net an ya hue pete: that s a good scene for him right there, greeting hostages, especially a high profile female like that. i did ask the colonel, does this mean they have more intelligence on where the hostages are. ful he said, unfortunately, probably not. this is an example where they brought them aboveground in civilian areas which means the ability for some intelligence was available. most of them are underground, not reachable, and as a result trying to do things like that to get all of them back is not the case. the argument from my sense, if most of the israeli public is we want to finish this, let s defeat hamas. the question what happens next. they re being held back in that approach on hamas, and that s, i think, the political consternation bibi would like the finish a lot of people still blame him for the fact that it happened in the first place. rachel: yeah. pete: but the s israeli public are largely united over let s finish hamas and a lot of israeli casualties too. ray there has been. and there has been a pretty vocal contingency saying prioritize the hostages. pete: and netanyahu s view military pressure is what will bring on the opportunity for a hostage exchange, otherwise e it will go on forever. will: meanwhile, to domestic politics, joe biden s been in france this week, the 800th anniversary of d-day 80th also several state meetings with the french president. his cabinet if campaigning across the united states. in fact, his cabinet in charge of raising campaign funds. this is axios. by day, they tout the president s agenda. by night, they help collect checks on his behalf. transportation secretary pete butte judge and commerce if secretary gina if raimondo are particularly active and give donors an inside view of how the biden team s plan to prevent donald trump from returning to the white house. dual jobs. pete: i guess. i mean, they can. it s such a reflection of how weak their candidate is the rachel: right. pete: i mean, he can t do it, so you re going to win it on the back of mayor pete and on the back of gina raimondo, you know, who with whose name idea is about as high as, you know nobody knows who these people are. and so maybe inside democrat circles there s some utility there, but they re not going to raise $33 million the way donald trump is in one event in newport beach. rachel: unless joe biden ends up in jail [laughter] that a seemed to raise a lot of money for donald trump. but i think the reason hay want to put pete buttigieg out there for exactly the reason you say, but they see him as an heir aa parent. he s out there, he s going to be also doing funnel if raisers for joe biden because joe biden can t make all the fundraisers, so he s going to be hop knobbing with all of these big donors if hopefully starting to connect with them because they see him as the heir apparent. what s interesting is hering seeing how the left is divide over joe biden. the left had a very scathing article a blaming joe biden for being stubborn and insisting on running when he knew he was not up for the game. i would say that that was probably a jill biden, jill biden decision. but here s what the atlantic said. they said bind remains a comprehensively weak incumbent weighed down by the same liabilities that burdened him from the start beginning with the largest and completely unfixable one. at a 81. he s just too old to run for president. his bullheaded insistence on doing something no one has ever done along with the unwillingness on inability of democrats to stop him means a potentially disastrous proposition in its ongoing effort to console democrats, biden keeps trotting out its usual barrage of, don t worry, voters haven t tuned in yet. it is now june. is this reassurance or wishful thinking? does biden s team have think if coherent message if about what he hopes to accomplish in a second term apart from thwarting trump and staying alive in. will: and the headline is ruth bader biden. this is, again, libertied in the atlantic. so publishes in the atlantic. you know, ruth bader ginsburg and and her legacy on the left is the stuff of legend now, but those in the know, the fact that she didn t step down when her health was failing actually did the trick for donald trump, for conservatives, for appointing supreme court justices. she could have stepped down under barack obama and allowed him to appoint a supreme court justice. she hung on. rachel: and it s so ironic because she s this pro-abortion advocate on the court, and some people now blame her for why roe v. wade was overturned will: strategically, it s exactly it s not just blame, it s easy math. rachel: right. pete: and you ve heard some calls amongst democrats, i can t remember who the most senior, left-wing justice is on the court, for them to step down so they can appoint if a younger one i don t think that s going to happen. that s where you could make a supreme court appointment of kamala harris will: oh! of her? pete: i m just saying because you can t drop joe and and go to kamala, you take your most senior left-winger on the court, they retire, kamala some people is have suggested. i don t think it s going to happen, but this goes to the point, this is an op-ed from mark leibovitz who s a new york times, d.c. correspondent. he s going to know what the chattering class is saying in washington d.c. this probably reflects the thinking of a lot of people who say this guy s incapability but he s bullheaded, he won t move will: he s either going to the lose, or he wins and then, god forbid, he can t make it through his 4-year term and you have a president kamala harris? his age is a real issue even getting beyond, hey, he physically cannot do this job. president ifth yeah. rachel: i think what all of this tells me as i kind of put all the pieces together is barack obama wanted joe biden in place for the last election, and he got him. and then they want do at one point they realized they wanted him off the stage, and they put a lot of pressure on him to do that through leaks, through newspaper articles and these types of things. and i think jill biden, i mean, look at her in france. she is so thirsty for this role. she loves it. i mean, she went to hunter s trial and then she flew back on the american dime because she could not miss that state dinner. she loves this. she is in that place, and she said we are not leaving the white house. i firmly believe that that s what happened, and i think they re in a pickle because they re the ones that originally picked this old guy running from the basement pete: now he s saying i ain t going anywhere. rachel: and you have the problems you talked about with kamala and everything else. pete: one of the guys that s been in the discussion is gavin newsom potentially, but he s said time and time again, a i m not running, but if he did, have to deal with the type of things he s done in his own state which is hiking up the minimum wage which in the restaurant industry, you know what the real minimum wage is when you increase the-in if mum wage? zero dollars because people lose their jobs is and businesses go out of business. so how many this is the number , you know, what this 10,000 number is. california jobs lost after the bill was signed. so this bill was signed for a $20 minimum wage, and there s now a full-page ad that s been put out in me here yum of the victims memoriam of different restaurant chain or franchises that have left the state will: rubio s, pizza hut, maude s, excalibur pizza, subway, burger king, mcdonald s, cinnabon, all of these chains closing locations in california after the hike in minimum wage. rachel: some of them shutting down altogether in california, some of them leaving restaurants open but moving their a headquarters out so they don t have to face the corporate tax, you know, moving it to another state, the headquarters to another state. here s tom manzo,, the president of california business, of the california business and industrial alliance. he says you can only charge to your point, pete you can only charge so much for a big mac. what business owners are doing is either they re selling, they re not expanding in california, they have expansion plans in different states or going out of business. the biggest lap was going to give the health care workers a minimum if wage of $25 per hour and then he was this budget deficit and then they re, like, we re not sure if the government can afford that. well, wait a minute, you can t afford it, but business owners are supposed to? again, that difference in the way private businesses have to deal with all the regulations and problems out of government. if. pete: you have 10,000 jobs that have left california where they previously were making, what, i don t know, $is 12, $14 an hour, whatever the business could support. their wage goes up to $20, hey, they re happy until they don t have a job at all if businesses flee. rachel: and, by the way, 75 of americans say 75% of americans saying buying fast food is a luxury these days. they can t do it anymore. pete: yeah. remember when i may have even referenced it on the show, and this is not an original thought from he, but just a few years ago it was a $5 foot long at subway and now it s, like $13. you just can t it s, i don t know. will: we re going to turn now to your headlines. alvin bragg agreeing to testify in front of a house judiciary panel after former president trump was found guilty in his new york fraud trial. it comes after committee chair jim jordan demanded bragg and prosecutor matthew coangelo testify this thursday in a letter last month. both prosecutors, however, say they have scheduling conflicts and will testify at a later, agreed upon date. the nypd is cracking down on reckless and unregistered moped drivers in the new york city. officers carrying out a joint moped operation in which they seized 39 illegal mopeds and motorcycles. the move comes just a few days after two nypd officers were hurt in a shootout with with a robbery suspect who had taken off on a moped after he was recognized by police. and spring football, the birmingham stallions are heading to the ufl championship game after a huge second half comeback to beat the michigan panthers 31-18. martinez [cheers and applause] running back, parsons. headed for the pie louis vuitton, touchdown! will: tonight on fox at 7, the winners winner goes on to face the stallions in the ufl championship game, and those are are your headlines. pete: there you go. texas coming for wall street. how the new stock exchange could challenge new york s status as america s financial capital. when the bones are good, the rest don t matter. if yeah, the paint could peel, the glass could shatter if. if let it rain cuz you and i remain the same if (fisher investments) we are. we have a team of specialists not only in investing, but also also in financial and estate planning and more. 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you know, it s amazing. anytime you see people coming together ask pointing to hope, the thing about this anthem of grace is it s for everybody, right? if god invites all ofs us. i it would people last night, i said, jesus is the only one who welcomes everyone, right in rich and poor if, sinner sinner and saint, people who have clothes on and don t have clothes on which also happens in times square. it s an amazing thing to lift up his name and point people to the hope that jesus offers. pete: if your ministry s primarily in minnesota, in minneapolis, so why times square, and how did it come about? yeah. so we ve been training up evangelists across the country, pulse 1000 pulse 3900, we had 20 of them in new york city, and the leaders of new york invited us to partner with this jesus weekers which is a chabra ative effort, but this is a movement of seeing the gospel go forward and inviting believer withs around world to join us on amazing grace and to share their story of amazing grays because we can t keep this to ourselves. everybody s loud about everything [laughter] let s be loud about jesus. rachel: i love it. will: rachel asks you what was the energy like, and you pointed out how many churches joined you, but i also imagine people just walking through new york had to have stumbled upon something they considered to be pretty special. you know, we were going throughout times square is and throughout new york just talking to people p inciting people to sing the song with us inviting people to sing the song with us, and you would see people walking, 20,000 people every hour passing through times square. this event on opinion for, like, five hours. you re talking 100,000 people being impacted and exposed by the hope and message of jesus as the church which jesus said you re the light of the world. and so the light are isn t made to just be hidden in building, right? we want to go to the street corner. people stopping by, people joining the song. some people that haven t sung that song since they were a kid. i met one guy yesterday named luis. and he said, man, i grew up in the church, i ve gotten far away from god, and if i m just sitting there with him in times square, he s praying and giving his life to jesus while he s sitting there having a smoke, has his drink in his pocket, i don t know if god can still love me. and i m telling him, no, he s always giving us a second chanceful we re one prayer away. rachel: and if you re paying attention, there is revival going on in the country. we talked yesterday about russell brand. he said we actually had a clip of him. he said it s that we re losing trust this everything else. it s sort of like the silver lining in all the bad with things that are happening, all the a lies that are being expose pd, that somehow the truth rises. have you thought about why this revival is happening? you know, i think the last few years, i think everything we ve put our hope in has kind of shown that it doesn t work, right? so if you put your nope if politics, leaders come, leaders go, most leaders let us down. if you put your hope in the economy, how does that go for you, right? if you had your hope in your health, even that was rattled for people. rachel: or big tech. all of it. and i think what s happening is people are realizing that there s nothing that satisfies. and at the end of the day, you have to come back to this reality of, like, i was made for more. and i believe that this is the greatest opportunity in our lifetime. i tell people all the time if you re in the life business, business is good right now. [laughter] you ve got to shine your light, you ve got to point to jesus because the hope, this is the one hope that never returns void. pete: pass, to it s a wonderful message. if poke folks want to get involved, is there a web site? yeah, pulse.org as well as anthem of grace. just search for it, join this campaign. we ve had people from over a hundred countries join already are, tens of millions of households. this is a global movement if around jesus. rachel: come back to new york. we love it. pete: you re welcome anytime. thanks, guys. rachel: all right. it s the tale of two candidates. while trump sounds the alarm over nuclear war, biden calls climate change the only existential threat to humanity. wow. will: florida congressman michael waltz sounds off next. losing weight and keeping it off? same. discover the power of wegovy®. with wegovy®, i lost 35 pounds. and some lost over 46 pounds. and i m keeping the weight off. wegovy® helps you lose weight and keep it off. i m reducing my risk. wegovy® is the only fda-approved weight-management medicine that s proven to reduce risk of major cardiovascular events in adults with known heart disease and with either obesity or overweight. wegovy® shouldn t be used with semaglutide or glp-1 medicines. don t take wegovy® if you or your family had medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop wegovy® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis and gallbladder problems. wegovy® may cause low blood sugar in people with diabetes, especially if you take medicines to treat diabetes. tell your provider about vision problems or changes, or if you feel your heart racing while at rest. depression or thoughts of suicide may occur. call your provider right away if you have any mental changes. common side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. with wegovy®, i m losing weight, i m keeping it off. and i m lowering my cv risk. that s the power of we. check your cost and coverage before talking to your health care professional about wegovy®. introducing, ned s plaque psoriasis. he thinks his flaky red patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. otezla can help you get clearer skin. don t use otezla if you re allergic to it. serious allergic reactions can happen. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. some people taking otezla had depression, suicidal thoughts, or weight loss. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. live in the moment. ask your doctor about otezla. if. we work together on issues critical to peace and stability like food security and counterterrorism. and the existential threat of climate change which is growing greater. we re working together to accelerate the global transition to net zero. it is the existential threat to humanity among the only existential threat to humanity including nuclear weapons, because if we do nothing on climate change. pete: what? joe biden telling the world that climate change is the only existential threat to humanity as donald trump says the real threat has nothing to do with global warming. we re at the most dangerous point in the history of our country payoff the power of weaponry, nuclear weapons in particular. it s very bad, very scary. and i will tell you, we have a chance of going into world war iii because of our leader. he talked the other night if about, that nuclear doesn t matter so much. what matters is, think of this, global warming. the only global warming that matters to me is nuclear global warming. pete: former green beret commander congressman michael waltz sits on the foreign affairs and armed services committees, and he joins us now. we got a chance to see your jump, super cool. now we get your thoughts on this. the only exist ten threat we re fay facing is climate change. what say you? well, pete, i mean, that s just ridiculous on the face of it, and this is why we re calling this the common sense election. i think anybody with common sense recognizes that may very well be a long-term concern. and, by the way, president trump absolutely cared about the environment. he entered into the trillion trees initiative, a global initiative for reforestation and conservation. he did a number of things new the epa to make us have the cleanest what water, cleanest air in world history and trending in the right direction. meanwhile, china trending in exactly the wrong direction, opening a nuclear excuse me, a coal-fired power plant are, coal, russian coal typically, in china one per week. but let s take a ten back, look at the nuclear threat that we are facing right now. you ve not to putin and his nuclear saber rattling, iran marching towards a nuke led by a religious fanatic in the ayatollah. the biden administration is doing nothing about north korea as he builds multiple nukes now and tests icbms. and we can keep going. and i don t think people fully realize that a regional nuclear exchange could literally devastate the world. india and pakistan, iran and one of its neighbors, north korea, south korea. even though it would be limited, the environmental effects and the atmospheric effects would be devastating. so president trump once again is absolutely right. he was focused on it his first term, and he will be focused on it his second term, i have no doubt. pete: the problem is those kinds of priorities make their way into institutions that s right. pete: thed are asked that climate change is an existential threat has made it to the pentagon, so they re trying to make electric tanks and humvees so they can save the world there if climate change instead of being able to take on, i don t know, peer add very adversaries adversaries. you re absolutely right. i sat in testimony as biden s secretary of the army, i mean, people say this electric tank thing is a joke? it is not. her top goal for the united states army isn t to be the most lethal, the most feared, it s to be carbon neutral by 2030. and then that leads to her putting bases this is biden s secretary of the army putting our bases on chinese-made solar power, putting research and development funds into electric tanks. mine, this is they are i mean, they are very serious, and it is scary. [laughter] absolutely what is happening as a result of the commander in chief saying this is the number one threat. pete: colonel, you laid are it out really well, you laid down the numbers. here s a clip from representative michael waltz talking about the status of our military. watch this. going forward, from a readinesses standpoint we ve never been in a worse position. only 29% of our most p advanced fighter, the joint strike fighter, only 29% are full mission if capable at this point. 40% of our submarines, our biggest advantage is, can t get out of the shipyards. the marines are about to go over a year without any of their big amphibious ships because they re all broken. so these bad policies after bad policies over the years, i fear you re going to see what we have today which is deterrence crumbling around the world. pete: and while we re focus ifing on climate change, that s exactly what we ve seen, deterrence crumbling. hey, pete, i was just in normandy walking the hallowed grounds, the infantry that stormed the beaches of omaha, the 82nd airborne where we reenacted their jump, they weren t worried about all of that nonsense. they were worried about defeating the germans and having the training, the men and women, the material that they needed and a commander in chief that knew how to use em. and you can have the most capable military in the world, but if our enemies don t respect the commander in chief as they don t respect this one with, i tell you what, hay feared president trump x that s why you didn t see any wars on his watch. pete: no doubt. michael waltz, thank you for all of your amazing work. by the way, for being in that internal, but when i started writing the book, the war on warrior yours, one of the first phone calls i made was to mike waltz i m so glad you wrote that book, pete. pete: i appreciate it. i m grateful. you fight for those warriors every day. thanks for being on the program today, colonel. you got itmenting one of the best. let s turn now to chief meteorologist rick reichmuth for our fox weather forecast. rick: it feels so good up here right now. we ve got some rain coming into the northeast, and if you re down across florida, it is hot. show you what i m talking about, really hot temperatures. really going to be a big problem for us. florida again today, in towards tomorrow, a little bit into the day on tuesday. and then we re going to get a little bit of a break. that comes though at the expense of some big rain showers or that are going to be coming in along with that. major danger today for heat-related illnesses, especially across interior sections. and if you are around the orlando area, you re going to want to watch this if you re going to one of the parks. watch this rain that comes in though, starts to come in maybe by tuesday, and by the time we re doing with this, we re going to see some spots 10-15 inches of rain. probably not a tropical storm, but that moisture coming in is going to cause maybe some flooding concerns but drop temperatures down as well. pete, send it to you. pete: thank you, rick. all right, biden dines with the with the stars. amber rose endorses trump, and could a hush-hush real estate deal be the end of bennifer? tom shillue joins rachel for the pop culture round-up. we ll turn the lights on in a moment. 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[laughter] rachel: i don t know. i wouldn t want to have to deal with a $60 million mansion. i don t think they have a good life. i don t think celebrities, i don t think rich people rachel: interesting. well, they say it s money problems that they have different views of money, so some doesn t matter if you re rich or poor, if you don t agree on money, it can be an issue. we ll see, are they going to divorce or not? we ll find out soon. all right. with by the way, catch from the kitchen table. we break down the bennifer developments and money issue, how to deal with money issues in your marriage. so don t forget you can also catch it on fox nation, the 80s on fox nation totally 80s. it s the, like, all 80s on fox nation. rachel: you re hosting. yeah. who can forget 1983 and all the 80s shows, and there s lots of 80s movies rachel: and people are dressed up. those fashions are coming back. rachel: thank you, tom. more fox & friends coming up. -w listen. what you really need in life is some freakin torque. 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[laughter] that he gave to the family a chihuahua puppy is a gift card that was my first memory of him. and of no white supremacist pretty any of the patriotic american. in the latter years of his life, he lived in quietly. diabetes, it is his foot removed and so forth and so on her stories are not unique and i want to tell you about another minute or family by the way is brother, his brother-in-law, sister s husband, named kevin at synthetic he joined the marines the same date, and he fought on the solomon violence, and the canal, and he was a big tough man with big hands and this what i remember. and to tremendous patriots, tremendous patriots and there was my father, and am telling you this for a reason because american families all over this country have gone through the ups and american citizens, houthis and respected by their government and who deserve respect for the president. from there to have it for families it tapped over and over again and lies told about the projection of racism on top of them for the racism the biden family practice in the racism joe biden practice in the senate, and it had nothing to do with my father my grandfather my great uncle are my family, nothing. this on biden and on july 4th 1937, my father jack, then 12 years old, and a neighborhood but he walked it several miles from their homes, the parade route with the city philadelphia was already donations founding father route stretch from center city philadelphia, upper from independence hall come to the philadelphia art museum or sylvester stallone would make famous in the rocky movies, early 40 years later. in a apply, father s attention, a civil war veteran and he said on the back of a four-door convertible, dressed in his all union uniform, including his campaign hat and behind him marched a small group of spanish american war veterans, but of all of the soldiers the veterans are merging vance my father sought that they come the union soldier so that camille jack had been somewhat about the civil war in school, saying the soldier in the flesh intrigued him and the soldier would become seared in my father s mind of the most costly war in american history, became real to and thus become a father s lifelong journey of self-education and patriotic preaching, about this great nation s history and founding principles and at a young age jack in an effort drawing from a designing and when he was 13 years old, he designed an automobile window and intervention for the contest that they were conducting in conjunction with the release of the movie young tom is income starring mickey rooney remember the little triangle window, well and among others, that was his idea and he was one of only five winners citywide, and earned a trip to the 1939, new york world s fair in this had incredible impression on him and a 15, my father committed an idea with drawings for animating the story a christmas carol to the in california, the studio loved and asked that he provide more examples of his work including, numerous cartoon drawings which he did in the next contacted his parents announced that it would allow percentage points disney studios. well, they said they would provide them with dormitory state space in either facility what is working for them but his parents concern about his age, turned down the offer my father grew up during the great depression his family was very very poor and his father harry to part-time jobs when he can find them, and his mother sarah worked in his cigar factory in about a mile down from where there were living jack was the oldest of four children. any boy and when he turned 16 years old, half of the school day you did, you would walk to the cigar factory, down the street where he worked until midnight and running the going rate of $17 a week on week as my father took freelance jobs furniture frame manufactured, sketching frames going to oppose herself as a chair said he was paid, $2 for a set of drawings and manufacturers salesman use the finished drawings with the customers he was later the japanese attacked pearl harbor and jack spend the summer working at the craps shipyard from the philadelphia shipyard, with the oldest destroyers and summaries but he wanted to do more for the war effort like somebody wonderful mentor that young time, my father decided to enlist in the armed forces and he wanted to be a cadet in the army air corps, which today we know the air force. jack was only 17, he was too young and so he security copy of his birth certificate from city hall, rubbed out the number five in 1925, his birth year, any written for and just like that he reached the legal age requirement of 18. now if you pass a rigorous their core exam, he was in and cadets took the exam including students from the university of pennsylvania but only for paths, including my father not long thereafter, is my father was boarding a train to biloxi mississippi, for basic training, the soldier stopped him and told him the lt. wanted to see him of the cynically taken close of the birth certificate and asked jack how old he was objectively the truth. the ten at ten was not very happy with my father when he turned 18, he joined up in a week after, he turned 18 and he did well in their service, jack would use brief respites committed to rock tunes which were published in a variety of newspapers later joined the regular army, and in the infantry and it always bothered him, they never sent him overseas rate and when he was on his deathbed, he called me over five and half years ago, it was just he and i in the hospital room. his body was a wreck with cancer. and he said you know mark, i know what god did not send me to europe in a supply get. and he sits organ have you and your mother and i could have you. my peers were great people. and as he was dying, he was trying to write another book. the declaration of independence and he wrote several books gettysburg address, second inaugural address, and installing to his children and influenced the of a this is what he drew, shortly before he passed away. i shorted before he passed away. in the current president of the united states secretary of state, national security advisor, and the press secretary for the presbytery and for the secretary of state and they keep saying when it comes to his part from there is no victory right when they mean by victory, i m a grandfather knew what victory meant. my great uncle knew what victory that my father knew it victory met it we know what victory means. when i listen to donald trump speech coming in and referencing of the concentration camps only listen to ronald reagan speech, any reference to the six jews had been slaughtered, i listen to joe biden speech and he never mentioned this ralph, no months. talk about trump, the naming him. any talk about ukraine, and i agree with him on ukraine. he is the one that s held back ukraine despite all the money spent, they have not but in the army mets, that they need to actually defeat some of these russian battalions. and is withheld the okay for them to attack beyond a certain level of the europeans have been begging him. and he talks about democracy. but is in front of other groups and he talks about his hate for america. and you know who else know about victory, dwight eisenhower and harry truman, the new something about victory after close to i ve years of fighting the in europe in general and eternal life on june 6, 1944, d-day of the set apart from the tightest turn, the freemen of the world are merging together to victory and i have full confidence in your courage, devotion, to duty skill and that will accept nothing less than victory also year after d-day president harry truman announced ve day of may 8th 1945 in which he said in part, this victory, we join in offering our thanks to the providence in which because guided and sustained us of the dark days of adversity rejoice and sobered is subdued by the supreme consciousness of the terrible price that we have paid through the world of hitler, and his evil band and if i can give away simple watch for the coming months, the board is working, work, and more working we must work coveted finish the work in our victory is only half over but much remains to be done in the victory one in the west and is now being born in the east for the triumph of spirit in arms head of which we have wanted for his promise some of the peoples everywhere, who joined us and 11 freedom and it is fitting that we as a nation give thanks to almighty god and it was us and given us the victory, and i call upon the people of the united states, whatever their faith, to united offering joyful thanks to god for the victory. we have wanted to pray that he will support us, to the end of our present struggling and guide us into the way of peace and i also call upon my countrymen, to dedicate this day of prayer come to the memory of those given their lives to make possible our victory. and he said also my personal appreciation of the suburban leadership, showing you and your commanders and directing the valiant leeches of her own country. and rallies and do this historic victory. every president has known what mean perhaps other than biden and obama in the victory, and israel right now is because i did is funding the enemy is preventing israel from winning. what is victory fiasco the reason ukrainians are now on their heels is not because of lack of money and arms coming it is because biden has held them back. any talking about russia any use that d-day speech. to lie about your political about it in front of the world, where all of those brave men are buried. that s phone place, on that solemn day, is disgusting. introducing new advil targeted relief. the only topical pain reliever with 4 powerful pain-fighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. finish your business degree 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and nobody has question hostile witnesses like she does and i can tell you that, and is a pleasure to have you and i want to start with you, on this immigration issue joe biden was of the border, over 90 executive orders, only has to do is reverse them and we don t need a law in congress to me congresswoman the fellows existing immigration law, when we passed a law this is follow the law was joe biden done here. he has created the most catastrophic of border crisis innovations history and the american people know what is wavy look of the polling parking, is trump s pulling over 30 points ahead when he comes to handling up of border security and illegal immigration and house republicans passed the secure the border act, your ago, joe biden refused to support that bill in effect threatened to veto the bill and chuck schumer killed that builds those house republicans who have led legislatively to secure the border and it was joe biden who months ago, said that he did not have the executive authority to fix this border crisis even though the market people know that it was his executive actions that created this border crisis as of this latest desperate executive orders that joe biden has put out, political desperation and is only further fuels the illegals able to cross both are southern in our northern boulder reporters phoenix unbelievable is in the the comes out of the sky smell in the media to run with it and likely going to say to joe biden is his bipartisan bill. i partisan bill, congress woman to think the three republican supported it is negotiated in secret. on the mitch mcconnell, voted against his own bill and what with the joe biden partisan bill with duncan illegal immigration. further fueled of the fire and had open up the floodgates for more illegal immigrants two-point in this country and it would not have ended catch and release them he would not reinstated remain in mexico policy, we help what is secure border looks like helsley president trump s effective border security policies the most secure border in my lifetime and that s why house republicans opposed this pro- amnesty negotiation behind closed doors of the joe biden politically wanted to bail him out to cover up for this border crisis that he has created and of famer coming up onto the border for the southern and northern border center represent the temporal northern border, we ve seen illegal crossings, skyrocketed or joe biden is failed leadership including those on the terror partially synthesis of national security prices and economic crisis, and is a constitutional crisis because if you do not have orders from you lose your sovereignty as a nation as of this is an issue house republicans avoided were not and would reelect president trump continue to grow the house republican majority the senate and we will make sure that in addition of trumps executive orders from the we get secure the border step signed into law. mark: you know, some of the difficulty accusing the menino law i keep saying, the system is broken. first of all, what kind of law when they support, another would enshrine as you point out, open borders illegal immigration, slavery and could sold into slavery in the door-to-door darn thing about it in your acer to think about number two, to make it count on the number of women were sold into slavery encounter the number of children now were sold to pornographers and we keep him, have any of this and i noticed that very interest of keeping count of goes on in the middle east the israelis and palestinians. do we keep count of the amount of may have in the anarchy and humanity going on in the southern border as a result of this president to make it gets worse even that which you think about it, divided department of homeland security, does not know and is awestruck of nearly 100,000 minors who are in slavery being human trafficked and humanitarian travesty and it is all joe biden s watch. he has created this border crisis lock stock and barrel. the american people point of pulled him accountable you are exactly right of the president trump executive order for you the most secure border in the northern and southern border in our nations history this life the bill that the house republicans vessel strong support despite a very slow majority, we passes secure the border act to enshrine those trump executive orders in the democrats cannot have it both ways. as a first joe biden have the executive authority then they put out a desperate executive order and it is offensive to the market people in the voters because they know the joe biden s executive actions underwent open of the border and is allowed catch and release, and has created this crisis transferring of illegals to places all across the country so it is not just the border states and communities that are infected, it is every state is a border state in every community as a border community and is prices because of joe biden and president trump is going to secure the border come with the help of house republicans and senate republicans to provide safety flown at half a million foreigners in the country. and affirmatively he is has gotten them confronted into the country will move illusion pendant management will recent nothing has changed and that is the truth, nothing changeable we come back, what is it with joe biden in his hate pretty israelis in the state of israel. the few people to never speak to the net there and what is it about him and his embrace of iran and funding the enemy and we will be right back. i m john scott is now back to life, liberty & levin. c1 welcome back america, were here with the least release still phonic, and if i were somebody who wanted to undermine israel, prevent them from winning a war and surely cannot survive the two state solution know the rest that would got joe biden s demand but what is this problem. will that is anti-semitism and that is a growing strain today s different party, that is not become a stream and is anti- israel every opportunity, joe biden has equivocated for la and turned his back on his route for adams honor to be invited by the speaker these really because the speaker robotic about to deliver remarks about the importance of the united states standing with israel and this the same week of the joe biden attempted and is still withholding military eight that congress passed in support of her most precious la the middle east, you have an administration that s obama, 2.0 prioritizing iran and hundred biting israel created chaos national security, threats or the world because of joe biden s weakness on the world stage. mark: quickly, to your knowledge, you said in the armed services committee what is this administration pivoting run from getting a nuclear weapon and then we read the papers this is ministration is leaning on france and the uk. not to review give ron, for his nuclear program and when you make of that. what to make of it is a continuation of the obama administration including some of the same individuals who are at the table in terms of these discussions others working through european countries summative pave the way for iranian nuclear weapons capability remember back of this is the same administration in the same state department, that put out an official statement, the loss of the iranian president you what the iranian people who had been abused by the iranian president said the regime and they did not mourn the loss of the president yet this is the same administration who is turning their back on israel. his obama 2.0 with failure and birth that to the historic achievements the middle east to president trump with received records or the recognizing jerusalem as the eternal capitol moving u.s. embassy there and we had peace in the middle east under president trump voters know they going to the polls is november c1 appointment quickly to another subject, this chamber that the placement headed. mark: and i believe you filed an ethics complaint against dissecting cho. yes multiple ethics complaints and this is shredding our democracy and the mainstream media depress accused of the right but it is really the depressed attacking our democracy and retake the judge into the near pay for this was like the case taken up by alvin bragg a corrupt prosecutor releasing by criminals on extremes is what we have five crisis in new york judge who donated to joe biden and his family members are profiting to the tens of tens of millions of dollars and raising money for the rest like adam schiff and joe biden, because of this trial and so this is a political witchhunt, the jury shopped as well asking the members with a folded donald trump tells me that did the best that the fold invited the american people know that this was rigged from the start and is in the front to us president trump is correct the real verdict will be rendered is november on election day president trump wins overwhelmingly and i also think any of the fact that president trump is within six points have a traditionally blue state means that momentum is moving in our direction because people see this for what it is that they can go up to president trump on political opponents they can go after any american c1 just me speaking about i m pleased is what i m reading a newspaper some of that you are potentially under consideration is running mate to donald trump and i just think you are great and think you very much, keep up the fine god flesh you my friend. thank you. mark: we wil i was fishing with dad ( ) i don t care if we ever come back that i always remember the fun we had i love fishing with dad now through june 14th save 10% on dad s favorite gift, special father s day gift cards, bass pro shops and cabela s. mark: welcome back america, wehs professor stephen calabrese, full disclosure, buddy of mine who work in the department of justice we work together he s gone on to greater things is a lot professor northwestern university. it is cochairman of the federalist society, former law clerk for justice seven in a long list here, visiting professor yelp and all that said, steve, you have filed with professor gary lawson, with former attorney general denise, and mike casey going challenge in the florida court, under the appointment because of the constitution and the appointment of jack smith. full disclosure, landmark legal finishing is as well unhuman develop the credit goes to the president and the staff there what is it that you re telling the judge. steve: thank you so what we are telling the judges jack smith was unconstitutionally appointed. the justice department claims that he is what is called an inferior officer under the constitution. in the appointment because of article two, set the congress may by law thus the home point met of such inferior officers as they think proper, and the president alone in the course of law or in the heads of departments and we have reviewed the organic statutes of the justice department and of agriculture education, hhs, and transportation. it s quite clear from the statutes that congress has given the secretary of agriculture, education and hhs, and transportation, the power to avoid inferior officers in congress has not by statute given the power to the attorney general worried and so jack smith is acting illegally, and everything that he is doing is no and void and has been all avoid since he was appointed, two years ago. and we think that judge elaine canada florida great hero anand a champion of the rolloff, one of the best federal district court judges in this country, should dismiss the indictment jack smith has brought against donald trump because jack smith was on constitutionally appointed. we know steve come of all of the people of the attorney general chosen, constitutionally, the goodby individuals already gone through the confirmation process of the united states senate has compelled the appointments clause of the constitution is there for a reason. it would pick jack smith and somebody was a lawyer, who has not been approved by the senate invited the framers of the constitution when a role for congress specifically this tendency, and the appointment of these top powerful positions in the executive branch. steve: will market originally congress thought of giving the appointment and power to congress alone and only later undecided issuer between the president and the senate but they felt that it was crucial that there be a check on presidential appointment powers of the presidents notify people who bad moral character or tainted by nepotism or things of that point. in effect, under the constitution, the default method of appointment, is presidential nomination and senatorial confirmation. jack smith is not going through that the provision for inferior officers, was added originally simply for clerks and people perform on policymaking jobs and of the course of her hundred 34 years of history, the number of principal officers who are nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate, has shrunk a number of inferior officers have grown vastly and actually the prosecutors, former attorney general of objects in a famous attorneys, emphasized why this is incredibly important with his accusers attorney general robert jackson went on to become supreme court justice robert jackson, nürnberg prosecutor, robert jackson, said because of the immense power to strike is citizens, not with me her usual strength, but with all the force of government and the federal sphere, from the beginning, the safeguard presidential appointment confirmation of the senate has been imposed your this required to win an expression of confidence in your character about the legislative and executive branches of the government before assuming the awesome responsibility that federal prosecutor suet know when we return professor, my question to you is this, is not smith, the most powerful prosecutor right now on the face of the united states, with massive resources and massive personnel, massive authority involving the future election of this country and with these incredible constitutional issues that he is raising and if anybody should this individual have been facing a nomination confirmation process, so somebody other than the attorney general of the united states at some of ability to oversee wittiest doing it we will be right back. - it s apparent. not me. - yeah. nice going lou! nothing like a little confidence boost to help ease you back in to the dating scene. that includes having a smile you feel good about. fortunately, aspen dental specializes in dentures and implants made just for you. and with flexible financing, you don t need to sacrifice quality work for a price that fits your budget. at $0 down plus 0% interest if paid in full in 18 months. helping our patients put their best smile forward. it s one more way aspen dental is in your corner. some people just know that the best rate for you, is a rate based on you, with allstate. because you know the right way to save. stop! save with drivewise and get a rate based on you. you re in good hands with allstate. mark: welcome back americaprofe3 u.s. attorneys, and is jack smith not more powerful, then any of the 93 u.s. attorneys who went to the confirmation process under the constitution. steve: he is more powerful than any of the three u.s. attorneys with the confirmation process under the constitution. and if the attorney general were right, if he could appoint special counsel jack smith, he could appoint a special counsel in cook county illinois, to investigate corruption there in the senators from illinois would have no check on that. it appointed special counsel in baton rouge, louisiana, to investigate corruption and they would have no check on that there s a reason why the senate insisted on the check of senate confirmation of prosecutors and jack smith, has not been confirmed by the senate. mark: one after another subject we subject we do have a time that is the issue of a common-law or another method, for president trump and his attorneys to make a pathway to the supreme court steps and i will make it clear to them naysayout there, we can t guarantee the supreme court will to get up and you can t guarantee the supreme court think of anything but even if you have a 10 percent chance and i think that there s bigger chance, the methodologies to do it that are extraordinary under extraordinary circumstances human idea yourself. steve: i have a couple of ideas versatile trumps new york state convictions are completely unconstitutional and in violation of the first amendment protection of freedom of speech. the question is how to get that first amendment claim from a new york trial corporative the supreme court and a couple of ideas i want president trump is equal is: prohibition which is that old common law writ, whereby the court of kings mansion in england, took cases away from the jurisdiction of ecclesiastical courts and the court of equity when they were exercising it improperly and unlawfully. any of the trial court manhattan is unlawfully prosecuting trump for first amendment protected activities of this prohibition is one mechanism, and another mechanism is with the law of the state courts and federal courts, to certify to one another, the federal questions or state questions that need to be answered. the state courts could certainly certified to the supreme court, the first amendment questions in this case. in the prosecutors could also divide the appeal intuitive feel the federal issues and ability state issues an appeal the federal issues more quickly smacking the other methods because i don t believe the prosecutors will do anything that would get it quickly to the supreme court however, there is also original jurisdiction of some of the republican attorney general of the state of new york. let me number of things and interference with their voters and interference with national election interference with federal campaign law that is a direct up to the supreme court but you mentioned the prohibition and there are several what we call common-law ritz prohibition, mandamus, corpus and the point is, the point is, that there are avenues this is not a 70-yard pass, and if that court wasn t picking up somebody else to position and they took bush versus gore they hold the voting x-uppercase-letter taking place there. they permitted the state supreme court and going any further and they said that this is a presidential election we need to address this is a was like the court has not done something like this week before and i would argue this is much worse if they don t address it now, it will get much worse in the future, in 2020 agencies will be all three willing to do whatever they want is stephen calabrese, how i think you and you are a great patriot your brilliant lawyer for a professor and a dear friend and take care of yourself. steve: thank you 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yes. and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? yes. i just went to a riggs trial in new york. s first public campaign stops and says guilty convictions. if we don t win this country is finished. i really believe that, i think it is finished. i simply refuse to believe that america s greatness is a thing of the past. good evening once again, i am stephanie ruhle. we are now 151 days away from the election, and the contrast between the two presidential candidates could not be any clearer. this week president biden took action to close the border, and then traveled to france for the 80th anniversary of d-day where he stressed u.s. support for our allies. at donald trump, on the other hand, rallied against his guilty verdict, the judicial system, and then threatened to seek revenge with any possible person who has slighted him. let s bring in our nightcap and discuss all this. my friend, steve liesman is here. lizz winstead, cocreator of the daily show. she is also the cocreator. pablo torre, host of the public toray podcast. and to ray, host on thegrio. we look at this week you have president biden talking about freedom and the fight against tyranny, both 80 years ago and today, and then you have donald trump talking about how revenge is justified. liz, talk to us about where these two campaigns are and where they appear to be headed? tyranny of the past and tyranny of the present is basically what we are talking about. where are they heading? sometimes i honestly look at these two things and i think will the selection simply come down to will trump have more disillusioned people that won t show up or will biden have more dissolution people that won t show up? and that scares me. because i feel like for those of us doing the work, in the streets every day defending people s freedoms, if trump wins again, what we are facing is no dissent. and with no dissent we cannot challenge any of it. but, if he wins again there is no surprises about who donald trump is. in 2016 you can make the argument. people don t realize who he is. remember, he had all these people like no, no, you don t realize what you are in for. america knows exactly what they re in for. you say no. you know, there seems to be a lot of delusion. we hear a lot about the trump era was great, the trump administration was great. as if coven just did not happen. as if there was some reason why those last two years just don t count against his record. i don t remember covid but i definitely remember infrastructure week. infrastructure week was every week. i feel like trump is the most selfish person in the world, and everything revolves around me personally. every political issue comes back to me, myself. this woman asked him, this reporter asked him, katie from alabama wants to know what is your relationship with god? and he said i do very well with the evangelicals. that is not the question you were asked! and biden, to me, seems very outward. he is thinking about others. how can i help other people? think about the key moment of his life, losing a major chunk of his family in one horrific moment, as a relatively young man. who learned empathy, and to think about others and the importance of family. and this other person, who every bad characteristic we don t want our children to have, he has. i think what you said, you know, what is the question being asked and what are we trying to answer as instructed to what the biden campaign, i believe, should be trying to do? framing this even beyond needing to pay attention to the newsday today. more choice between extremism and not. i just wonder why we are not generally describing trump more as an extremist. forget about, again, let s not forget about the issues, people on the ground doing good work. when it comes to what are we expecting out of this, do you want someone who feels like they are attacking every institution, who is, again, do we need to recite the litany of felons and felonies? let s just talk about not being that. okay, but here is possibly why i think this is playing out. because, though they shouldn t be, president biden is focusing voters on democracy and on freedom. and these are fundamentally important things, but somehow they get viewed as kind of lofty ideals, and trump goes straight to the gut and grievance. because people don t know what it is like not to have it. i lived in russia for six years. they didn t understand democracy. they didn t know what it was like to not be, sort of the possibility of randomly being arrested and otherwise having appeal. but can i just go back to the beginning of the show? did all that stuff in this montage happened just this week? and there is 151 days, which means 21 weeks if my math is right. i m wondering if i have the stamina to make it through this, if this is just one week s worth of stuff. i really think this is going to be rather a dramatic, caustic, and i think biden is going to have to really bring home what is the absence of democracy, which is a very tough thing, whereas trump has only to say look, we can do all these things, everything can be great, and full of wall is not a sinitic and thing people think about. trump is a great salesman for his diseased ideas. biden has not yet shown himself to be a great salesman of his ideals, of what he has done. and there is a very significant and real and honest critique of biden from the left. that he has not done enough on what is going on in gaza. and there are a lot of people who would be democrats otherwise who will not support him because of that. i hear you. what s the conversation to have with that voter about what former president trump will do with the situation in gaza? was it not nikki haley a few weeks ago, when she went over there and said it is the job? you know, what lizz said about the margins is important. don t think about the potential, the imaginary hypothetical biden trump voter. i don t think that person really exist. there are a couple, but not many. there is a lot. know, the election is going to be about can trump get people who will say it is either trump or stay home? and can biden get people who say it is either biden or i stay home? the election is going to be won on those margins. and biden does have this significant issue, that a lot of people. there is agoing around on it tiktok . i don t know if using it. tiktok, home of misinformation central. we can talk about tiktok later. but they asked with man, gun to your head, would you vote for biden or trump? and he said the gun would go off . it is a meme that has been shared by people who are saying i will not go with any of them. this is my point about extremism or not. biden should also be as popular as the field broadly. do you want trump or anybody else? we are at a point where trump is not just specifically dystopian in the ways that we may remember or not, based on our experience during the pandemic. he is also just clearly against the will of all is the concept. so i think the question of democracy is how do you make this a tangible, scarier thing? because currently i think talking about democracy as a concept is a little pie-in-the- sky. the thing about democracy dying in darkness did not really work as a slogan for the washington post. it this week, with the remembrance of d-day, it was not just the stark contrast between president biden and donald trump. it was also between donald trump and ronald reagan. ronald reagan gave one of the most important speeches of his presidency in normandy. he stood against russian aggression, he stood with his nato allies. so isn t there question to ask of all republican voters, where has your party gone? because the current gop and what donald trump represents bears almost no resemblance to ronald reagan. correct. it is why you saw joe biden looking almost like reagan and referencing him while he was in france this week. i mean, i am just not going to go down that path, because i am somebody who doesn t have friends who are alive because of ronald reagan. so when i think about waxing back to the people who laid the foundations for this evolution, trump did not come to us in a vacuum. trump came to us because people laid foundations for hatred and bigotry and sexism. and i feel like i don t want to go back to the party that i could recognize of ronald reagan. but what i do want to say is people that we are leaving out of this conversation are the voters. i am constantly saying to people the election is not the end game. it is the starting game. you get the democracy you want and you get the democracy you participate in. and who do you want to fight? that is my whole thing. who do you want to fight? do you want to fight a madman? or do you want to fight somebody who might listen to you where you can get the needle move? because these other people. i do not think the election is going to be won by biden if he is taking democracy his issue. i think it has to be the economy. all of our polling shows people are most concerned about inflation, most concerned about jobs, most concerned about the economy. democracy should be like the sprinkles you get with the ice cream cone, if the ice cancun is the economy. but without a functioning democracy you can throw your economy out the window. that the economy is always the number one issue. finish your thought. i was just going to say that if he does not win it on the record that he is running on which is a strong one. which is a pretty strong one , and a vision of the future, i don t think he wins it by saying i am the democracy guy and that guy isn t. we are talking two different languages as far as the folks who may vote for biden and the folks who may vote for trump. i mean, this is not about issues at all. this is about personality. this is about who you believe. and the people on the right, like joy reed talks about earth one and earth two. the people on the right live on earth two. and we can sit here and believe the nothing that you believe is factual. we can go on and on. january 6, climate change, the election, the trial. but they are affirmed in their miss belief constantly, and they think we don t know what is reality. this is why i feel like the whole felonies thing should and hopefully does cut through to a silent majority, not to evoke reaganism s, but a silent majority of people who are like i am in earth one resident that i am just not that proud of it. it is, for me, a bridge too far, when we have a convicted felon surrounded by felons being again in the white house. i feel like i just want to simplify it down to do you want the felony guy or anyone else? that is a great question. donald trump wanted more than his face, wouldn t he be doing everything possible to court the nikki haley voter? he disrespected nikki haley in every possible way and still she endorsed him. if she actually wanted to win, it wouldn t he say she is my running mate, let s go for the gold? he hasn t, instead it is president biden who is putting together a coalition to try to go to for those voters and risking losing progressive voters in the mix. i wonder when we say nikki haley voter, i would wonder if they were not so psyched about nikki haley, or if they were just like i don t want trump. i am not like everything about nikki haley is just awesome. people weren t saying that. i feel like him going for that voter after he saw emma we saw the numbers after iowa. was it 28% of those people who said if nikki haley is not the nominee i could possibly vote for biden? i think when trump doesn t go out and try to expand his base he never has. but let me finish. why is even doing that? that should be the sign to everybody, he is not trying to expand past due. he is not looking at a world for you. can i do some reporting here with lizz ? i might be messing up the order of your show here. but when roe was first overturned we saw abortion rise up to the top of issues. since then we have seen it fall down. and i know the democrats are making a big deal of the abortion issue. do you think it is something that motivates voters? i don t think it is going to be democracy, and i am wondering if it is going to be abortion as something that trumps the economy, for lack of a better term, and becomes a real motivating issue. well, i am the right person to ask. no, no, only because you might not know this, i am on the ground all the time talking to people. and this is where democrats are actually making a mistake. i do think abortion, abortion polls better than politicians. in these ballot initiatives we are seeing in over a dozen states were initiated by the people, not by politicians. by the people. people who held their abortion stories to themselves for years, saw this as a time, and this isn t a couple people. you have to get 200, 500 in florida, 900,000 validated signatures to get it on the ballot. the question is will people vote for biden and the initiative, what we saw in kansas, the very first one, that people voted overwhelmingly for their abortion initiative and still voted for some of the people who created the laws in the first place. what? so, what we should carefully be looking at is these initiatives, i think, are going to greatly help down ballot. they are going to help senate races and places that will be surprising. congressional races. and will people say i am going to vote for everybody but biden? that is the question somebody needs to answer. we can do that in the next poll. we can ask about that. please do. the president took pretty aggressive action on immigration this week. it has been a vulnerability for him. republicans are going to say it is too little too late. how do you think it is going to play out? and just to be clear, republicans have done nothing on immigration, and thanks to donald trump, blotch doing anything legislative. this is how the republican party has shifted the overton window in their direction. we talked about the border, and about immigration. immigration is not a central issue in american life. it is not the source of crime, it is not changing the economy. republicans have made it this central issue. and people believe it. whether it actually is an issue in daily life are not is somewhat irrelevant, because republicans have been successful in convincing the american people. that s what i m saying, they have made us think about it when it is not as important as they wanted to be. i think this is the frustration for anybody who is not trump, joe biden specifically. your running election campaign, and administration based on it, i think, a practical execution of hopefully reasonable and increasingly moderated policies, and donald trump is running on vibes. it is a vibes based campaign. and the question, fundamentally, returns to turnout. vibes is too polite award for a period anger, resentment, ancient nightmares awake into the bloodstream of people who feel like they re being threatened by non-threats. i m sorry, i have a different view on this. i want to see the person advising biden on the politics of immigration fired. i think he has been behind the curve on this. he has let the republicans take this to a place where it shouldn t go. from a narrative perspective, but not a policy perspective. what have they done on the policy front? from a narrative perspective, if he is doing what he is doing now, why couldn t he have done that months ago? okay, fine. but hold on. you can argue with when he did it, but now he is doing it. now he is doing it. what have republicans done? nothing. they have objected to a deal that was apparently done that was agreed to, but the second thing i wanted say they want to continue to set this up as a problem. the second thing i want to say is there are some issues where you want to take on the lack of facts and the misdirection had on. this issue of immigration, i think, should be one that should be approached with much more sympathy for the people who are afraid and scared, and i think rather than head on white, which people? the immigrants? the people in montana who are worried about people crossing the border in xcode. you don t make it to montana. never make it to montana. so we should worry about what people in montana and west virginia should think about it? we already do. this is what is motivating them. and i think there is a way to address this in a way that is more understanding and less in- your-face. more understanding of what white people in montana think? exactly. here s why, because they vote. i don t think steve is saying because they are white. hold on a second. i don t think it steve is saying that person in montana is right. i think what he is saying is they vote. at the very least you have to acknowledge who that person is, where they are, and speak to them. the issue has already coddled them immensely by wrapping them in this notion of the demonization, i mean, so many americans would think of immigration and think of somebody getting murdered by an immigrant. but that is not the core of our relationship with immigrants in this country. and the right has made it that. yes, but the most important word that you said right there is made. because they made it that. because they solidified this falsehood, you have to at least address it and try to start solving for them. and you understand how people are scared? but who is scared? white people? white people. but we are continuing to be asks to be sensitive to the fears of white people? that are not real fears. it does not matter if they are real fears. they vote. i guess it is my question. genuine human empathy is being considered anybody s peers. i think we are trying to do empathy but also cold calculus about getting their votes. we are trying to disabuse them of the lies and ways that damages them in terms of their sense of security and sense of self. but before we get back in, i just want to ask what does it take to coddle the abstract montana and that is afraid that someone in mexico is coming over to take their job? there is a community i know in wyoming. they had no people from south america. all of a sudden they had 12 people. this was a huge change for them, and everybody, all of a sudden they had to teach esl. great, and guess what? that town in montana or wyoming had jobs for those people. they absolutely did, and those people added to the jobs and there were not people to do the jobs they were doing. all that is good stuff. i am just saying the change, the challenge makes people uncomfortable. i am wondering before we take them head-on if there is a way to talk to them. in an understanding way. last point. this is bigger than the immigration. because this is the republican pattern. create a fear that is not real, pass legislation that only harms other people, then the fear stopped because it never existed. and they think they won. they have done it with abortion, they have done it with lgbtq, trans people. there s kids who are pooping and cat boxes in schools! no, there isn t. if they were kids pooping in cat boxes in schools, high school kids would have put it on instagram. so, to me, it is a microcosm of the playbook and how do we dismantle that playbook to stop having that fear, and stopping the bs around it? we have to go to commercial, but i don t actually think you and steve disagree. i don t. no, i am not prioritizing the feelings of white so we do disagree. but i think that all steve is trying to say here is these people and their fears, he is not saying let s appeal to them. but if we simply ignore it then we are sending this people into trump s arms. we can practically see the statue of liberty when we walk outside this building. we are supposed to be a nation that welcomes immigrants. i mean, none of us were born here, right? but now we have this very hateful, xenophobic approach to a certain kind of immigrant. it is disgusting, and the notion that we should kowtow to the fears that have been grading these people. i am not saying you are kowtowing to anything, but if you don t at least speak to that person you are sending them into the arms of donald trump and going wild are that these people voting for donald trump? because they are getting it to work. and i am not saying they should be coddled. i am saying shouldn t we at least acknowledge them and get a basis of truth back to the center? this is part of what we are talking about when the new york times does what is going on in the world? we ask trump voters. they don t care, we don t care what they think. we don t have to be constantly checking in with what they think. i also think it is the responsibility of white people to educate white people. it should not be placed on lichen brown people and immigrants. i would like to know what it would take to achieve the persuasion that immigrants are not so scary. i would like a practical proposal before i decide to sort of center the feelings of people who are fed lies. what if you didn t reject the fears? and by the way, i am wanting to correct the record. i m not talking about coddling the fears of white people. i feel like there 20 a black and brown people concerned about immigrants coming over the border, taking their jobs. no one is taking anyone s jobs, we have a labor shortage. you have been there could be a rainbow coalition of people who believe that there isn t. i think we acknowledge the people have a right to have fear and be concerned, and not dismiss those fears. besides the four of you, someone else is screaming at me and it is the producers. we have to go to a commercial. there s five people yelling. when we return, the last four years have been great for the wealthiest americans. so i want to know why so many of the richest of the rich are opening their wallets, their hearts, their minds, and buying into his propaganda and pushing donald trump. i need some answers to this. and later, phenom caitlin clark gets hip checked and starts a bigger conversation about women s basketball when our nightcap and the 11th hour continues. s. no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable than dovato. detect this: marnina learned that most hiv pills contain 3 or 4 medicines. dovato is as effective with just 2. if you have hepatitis b, don t stop dovato without talking to your doctor. don t take dovato if you re allergic to its ingredients or taking dofetilide. this can cause serious or life-threatening side effects. if you have a rash or allergic reaction symptoms, stop dovato and get medical help right away. serious or life-threatening lactic acid buildup and liver problems can occur. tell your doctor if you have kidney or liver problems, or if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, or considering pregnancy. dovato may harm an unborn baby. most common side effects are headache, nausea, diarrhea, trouble sleeping, tiredness, and anxiety. detect this: you could stay undetectable with fewer medicines. ask your doctor about dovato. craig here pays too much for verizon wireless. so he sublet half his real estate office. you could stay undetectable with fewer medicines. 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the corporate tax cuts are going to be on the table in 2025. if you end up supporting trump you are most likely to keep those corporate tax cuts and lower tax brackets, because, by the way, i don t think trump is going to address the deficit at all, either. the record shows that perhaps some of the fiscal spending had a part in the inflation, but it was more about supply shocks, the inability to get stuff into the country, the reduction in the ability to spend on services, so all this money to buy patio furniture and stuff like that, all of the sudden that shot up and all of a sudden we had problems with some food distribution. and that has come off in a very big way. there has been extraordinary progress on the inflation rate but has not brought down the inflation level. and don t overstated, biden has plenty of very, very wealthy supporters. but you are right to point out how extraordinary it is that some of these folks, especially in tech land, are the ones who are out there saying i am going to vote for trump or support trump. and to read, for example, david sachs tweet today on the economy is just to be amazed that a guy with that much money . here s the thing. i get that inflation is difficult. these people who are now supporting donald trump have had extraordinary, extraordinary last few years. bill ackman this week, what is it announced? he is worth $8 million. think of everything president biden has done for electric vehicles. a huge win for elon musk. yet they are railing against this disastrous economy, when it has been a perfect one for them. i think, first off, taxes, let s start with that. and then get to realizing that for these guys, in silicon valley especially, shame feels like a market inefficiency. wait, hold on, if i don t have to care about the judgments of people who are paying attention to the news, maybe i can do the thing that donald trump offers uniquely, in my memory, of american presidents. which is the ability to dictate actual policy. the ability to get favors. i feel like this is the other part of the trump administration that goes underrated because we are talking about the bed of nails that is every single scandal. he is for sale. look at the adelson family. go down the risk of donors and what you get. if you are tech billionaire, ceo, philosopher, king. that is what these guys want to be. they know better. they may think trump is an idiot, and i think they do, but they also think they can puppeteer hemenway s, and they can help run the country. and that is something that joe biden does not offer them. the white house is for sale. and in some way, is this like re-creating putin s oligarchs, but here? you know, i have been listening to you, and i can t believe we are here, again. and a real chance that he might win. and something i ve read the criminologist talk about, the reason why jail does not work as a deterrent. because a lot of people do a stint in prison and they come out and they go oh, i can do that. now i m going to go back to the street, because that wasn t that bad. and for a lot of people they are like we survived trump. it wasn t that bad. covid does not count on his record, for some reason. and they are like we could do this again. and it doesn t make any sense. and i get a footnote to the oligarch story? a lot of those guys ended up exiled and dead. i don t know that all the people who are supporting trump understand the final end result of kleptocracy. okay, because you are asking for people to have something beyond short-term. it works for a little bit. but, see, we are talking about hugely successful masters of the universe who believe well, that will never happen to me. you know that is the way they all think. i think that is right. they re not thinking it through. i think they are also missing, getting back to the first conversation we had, the essential connection between democracy and free markets. what makes free markets work is the rule of law, and if the rule of law is something that is on the whim of the president you have a real problem with your free markets. lizz, let s talk about sort of these loud, influential voices were suddenly backing former president trump. why they would be doing it. i understand, inflation is a really difficult. you want to buy a house, rent an apartment, get any insurance, things are really difficult. but suddenly this group of people backing the former president, it does not really make sense from a policy perspective. why do you think it is happening? well, when you look at how many of them are feel adjacent, this is not my will house. but i d do see and have met and have been hit on by very, very, very rich and powerful men. and all those zeroes don t add inches, and somehow i think they do. and if that stays in the show i am proud of you. i promise you it will. because honestly, i don t have an answer. we are on life. is a family show until now. but honestly, what is the thing you are missing? what is the emotional thing you are missing? you are talking about the intellect of these individuals, and so much of it is about the performance of this analogy that trump offers, the ego. and if you have a massive ego, one of these masters of the universe, wall street, silicon valley, i completely understand why you rock with trump. because that ego seems to be like that is my guy, that s the guy want to be with. i am also just not convinced that they actually like him. that s correct, they don t. they think he is a puppet. i think that they are unbothered by the performance that trump does, which is a key, visceral distinction that i have with these people. but also, i think, what they want is power. trump offers them power. these guys right now believe they can purchase a bat phone into the oval office if donald trump wins. and it was funny, somebody on tv said to me the other day, yeah, but what if donald trump turns on them? what if he doesn t deliver than that? he might, though. and joe biden definitively will not. so they will roll the dice. i think we make a mistake in this country, that because you made a lot of money here you must be smart about things over here. we do it all the time on cnbc, and it is something that i disagree with. but like we will have a billionaire and asked him what he thinks about healthcare. and unless he made his billions in healthcare i am not really sure i care. it s a great point. it s interesting, but it is not essential. it is interesting as we talk , that the pronoun hymn has been used to bunch. because we ve been talking a bunch about men. and even when you said because they make money here they don t do it over there, when you think of somebody who is a billionaire, like the woman who invented spanks. sarah blakely. people are not going to sarah blakely, what do you think about what is going on over there? i don t anybody is asking these guys. these guys have realized they can become business celebrities. do you think somebody a year and half ago said what does bill ackman think about anything other than investing? no one asked him. but now he is posting tweets. it became a twitter personality. so the adrenaline addiction is real. they are all addicted to dealmaking, and now they have become business celebrities. this is a part of capitalism. the people who succeeded the most and capitalism must be the most intelligent people in the country. trump succeeded in capitalism. soon enough, he did not. he did! he took a big chunk of money from his dad. lost a bigger chunk. right, we think of him, he is so dumb. he is proof that you can be wealthy and done at the same time. is also not a successful business person. everyone is staying right here. when we return, fans love her. but caitlin clark is getting a mixed reception from the players in her first year of going pro. why one foul has people talking when the 11th hour in the nightcap continues. introducing new advil targeted relief. the only topical pain reliever with 4 powerful pain-fighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. - so this is pickleball? 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(vo) new and existing customers get iphone 15 on us when they trade in any iphone. verizon it s time to get away and cash in at cache creek casino resort. to rock and to roll. to go all out or go all in with four stars and rising stars. northern california s premier casino resort is the perfect place to do as much. or as little as you want. make your getaway now and cache in at cache creek casino resort. basketball star caitlin clark continues to crowd the spotlight as her wnba career kicks off. but it is a foul against her from nearly a week ago that is still in the headlines. pablo, she got body checked by another player. so why are people still talking about it? walk us through what happened in the line of all these new threads. on some level it is a simple story. it was a hard foul, should have been called a flagrant. wasn t, had to be assessed as such retroactively. but the reason it has continued is because it fits into this larger story, which is less and less about caitlin clark, and is a through line for today s show, perhaps, and more and more about us, the voters, so to speak. because it is a perfect culture war story. uninformed voters versus informed voters. and it is about vibes. so i want to address the feelings, because these are sincerely held. it is more than just the great white hope. it is more than just a minority group in this sport actually being a majority outside of it. wnba famously is 60% black women. so you have this star who is bringing attention, record ratings, real business for the first time in the history of the sport. and simultaneous to that you have a lot of people who pre- existed in this sport, who built this sport, who are saying we have not felt the advantages of being the majority group in a business that now everybody cares about. and so, a lot of people have a point, is my point here. caitlin clark is a great player. she deserves the conversation and the height and the attention and the money. and at the same time, those are advantages that are not granted to others because there is a novelty, as well as the substance to it. it is an endless culture war story which everyone can get mad at everyone for a very long time. i think i feel also the resentment of the women who are already there, who are like oh, you think this college kid is going to come in and dominate us? and at the time it seemed you guys are being rude and resentful. and no, actually, it is very hard to move from college to the pros in any sport, even if you are, maybe, one of the best, the best college players ever. we are going to do this entirely differently. we are stronger, faster, more experienced. it is going to be hard for you. so slow down, don t think you re going to walk in and take over. i have nothing to say. remember how i said that i didn t think rich people should be talking about healthcare? i am pretty sure the economics reporter should not be talking about sports. but how is there so much confusion here? suddenly the wnba has all these new fans, and they are watching a game. a game, a rough game that is played year after year. but suddenly the first game they have ever seen, the player who they love, they are seeing get pushed around and they are going, i mean, there was a republican lawmaker who was complaining about this. where you are going this is just how the game is played. yeah, would they feel that way if it was angel reese who got knocked to the ground like that? no. she did get knocked to the ground like that, and nobody cared. this is the other part of the story. sports are supposed to be fueled by hatred. by bad blood. by feuding. this is stuff that is great. part of the reason why i want to buy stock, business metaphor, buy stock in the nba is because people are actually invested in it emotionally, and that comes from having bad blood. the thing that is dystopian, lizz, which movie you can appreciate on this level, too. i love dystopian. yes, we are talking not so much about the story, and more about how everybody hates everybody else because they see themselves in it. and for me it becomes a culture war story, and when i say it is an endless forever war of a culture war story i mean it is because, in sports, we are still arguing about whether lebron james or michael jordan is better. we have been doing that for decades upon decades. some precincts have been reporting that it is jordan. but the point is this is not a thing that can be solved this positively by play. it is going to be, again, about how you feel. and being a minority group in a majority female, black sport that outside of that sport affords you advantages that track with the money and the attention and the privilege, it is like it is fair to object to all of this and it is fair to also say you are making too much of it, because isn t she just a basketball player? and this i will also say. i think it is also fair to say that caitlin clark knows the game that caitlin clark is in. caitlin clark is not saying anything. it is like taylor swift, when the whole taylor swift beyonce feud was happening, they were both like there ain t no feud. this happens in this sport. i just feel like caitlin clark is not screaming. there is a whole lot of pundits speaking, there is a whole lot of things. and what you said is real. the pundit point is important. because race is always a part of sports, we don t always talk about it, but it is always there. and not just what happens on the floor, but also because the vast majority of people who cover sports are white, and male , and generally they are covering, especially in basketball, covering a lot of black people. so, in this situation you see the white girl who is supposed to be the new star, who is changing everything, and she gets thrown to the ground by somebody. the white pundits especially are like oh my god, how could you do that to her? but it is not just about race. it is a lot about the fact that these sports analysts are men. as i have seen black sports analysts this week go on and on, shocked by this saying these girls out there are being mean girls to each other. in the same sports analysts watch football year after year, they watch rookies get the crap kicked out of them going that is on the game is played. but when it comes to women doing it they are like look at these mean girls up in here. and that is bull nonsense. and i agree with you. overwhelmingly it is not that the rest of the wnba is jealous and deceiving like this is a high school cafeteria over caitlin clark. but there are a couple of people who feel that way. if you were to tell me watch this clip of angel reese celebrating caitlin clark falling to the ground i can t convince you objectively that she is not taking some enjoyment. now, does that rise to the level of jealousy and mean girl stuff? i am not going to categorize it as such. but i believe in that he and bad blood can coexist. it is just a we over characterize it as this is a sport where this should not happen, all sports are fueled by this. this is my observation. i want to know if this is true. is less contact countenanced in the wnba than the nba? is even more physical. we have to take a commercial. it s more physical? yes. does ladies know how to get it done. what i want to know is all this talk about the wnba, is it helping the game? we don t know yet. everybody is staying put. when we come back are nightcap returns with our mvps of the week. you do not want to miss it when the nightcap continues. e night kisqali is a pill that when taken with an aromatase inhibitor helps delay cancer from growing and has been proven to help people live significantly longer across three separate clinical trials. so, i have the confidence to live my life. kisqali can cause lung problems or an abnormal heartbeat, which can lead to death. it can cause serious skin reactions, liver problems, and low white blood cell counts that may result in severe infections. avoid grapefruit during treatment. tell your doctor right away if you have new or worsening symptoms, including breathing problems, cough, chest pain, a change in your heartbeat, dizziness, yellowing of the skin or eyes, dark urine, tiredness, loss of appetite, abdomen pain, bleeding, bruising, fever, chills, or other symptoms of an infection, a severe or worsening rash, are or plan to become pregnant, or breastfeeding. long live life and long live you. ask your doctor about kisqali today. welcome to the wayborhood. and long live you. with wayfair, finding your style is fun. 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i wanted to go in a different direction. corey harris, who became viral out of driving to his resume hearing about driving with a suspended license. hold on, walk us through. because people are not going to know this name but everyone saw this video. he drove to his resume hearing with the judge on his suspended license hearing. and everybody is like oh my god, what an idiot. and surely he made some bad decisions. and it came out that he has actually never had a driver s license. but the end result of all of this is that he ended up in jail for a nonviolent offense. he was not even intending to hurt anyone, and it is easy to look at an individual and say you should have behaved differently. more important to look at the systems and the institutions and say you should behave differently. why are we using jail as a corrective for something like this? a nonviolent offense like this? we are over incarcerating nonviolent offenders way too much in this country. and this is a prime example of somebody who should not be in jail. there are many, many other ways to make the situation work. cindy eldon is the clerk for esmeralda county in nevada. and she is undergoing a withering criticism at a recall petition. she is a republican from supporter, and there are people in that county the believe that there was problems with the election because trump only one of the county of about 700 people by 82%. and this wonderful story in the new york times about this clerk who is being criticized by her neighbors and all the people she has known for life is a reminder that democracy is not a mountain. it is not a building. it exists because of local officials, and the reason why the 2020 election was not overturned is because of these actions by these local officials . these people, i think, democrats, republicans, non- partisans all our heroes that make democracy still exist in this country, and don t take it for granted. and i am on a bipartisan crusade of my own. good luck with that. red panda is somebody that you may know if you have seen a basketball game. she happens to be the greatest halftime performer of all time. red panda is the older chinese woman and immigrant to this country who gets on a unicycle, elevated many feet in the air, balances holes on her foot, and kicks them off to her head repeatedly. and the crusade i launch after watching her perform in game one of the nba finals yesterday is simply this. at the basketball hall of fame has never inducted a halftime performer. it should be red panda, and i want to address america, the world, on my various social media platforms i have a change.org petition. this is a real thing. all of you guys at this table need to sign it. i am begging you. we need to demonstrate that this person, read anda, is a part of history and should be remembered to me as such. right on. we are ready to sign it. my mvp, the families from the sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. if you remember, talkshow host alex jones spread lie after lie of what happened in that elementary school in connecticut. the families of those children, those five and six-year-old children who were killed sued this man for defamation and they won nearly $1.5 billion in damages. but all sorts of cynics out there, me included, thought they are never going to see the money. a guy like this is going to move his assets, put them under family members names or friends, it will never happen. on thursday, yesterday, alex jones filed for chapter 7 bankruptcy, basically liquidating all of his assets. why? 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[laughter] a jewish comedian who not only one the yellowjacket the last time he was on but columbia students offered a pair of cement shoes to match. ehrenberg is here, there it is. [applause] she s never played in the wnba but chased more than caitlin clark. kennedy is back in the couldn t be happier. a former cia officer because people start to talk when you get thrown out of your strip club. [laughter] but do not judge until you ve seen sexy codes. mike baker is here. [applause] the crowd goes on and just when you thought it couldn t get any hotter, but the stomach for a full choke from a tito pointing junior in the house. anton for tomorrow s parade which oddly enough is my new york is out of town this wee weekend. but something against you all, most white people can t hang because you guys throw next level parade, do you not? thank you. we are used to seeing patrick s day parade, people marching in listening to bagpipes. we can t, is advancing in listening to exhaust pipes. motorcycles, loud. one of our panelists as a former male dancer. could you keep up the puerto rican day parade? how many knives what i have? [laughter] kennedy, over the years many march in the parade in your apartment afterwards. me and my 14 children would like thank them, thank you. put her down as a maybe. baker, you re from idaho so the puerto rican is a person in the caribbean which is only funny because your 80 times more for me. so that the country that. no. shame on you. reasons to celebrate, governor kathy hochul decided to follow controversial congestion pricing pegs that would charge commuters $15 a day to drive in manhattan. hochul : but to anoint for andrew to hit on decided people are struggling too much call for extra cash. i made jokes all the time but good on her for acknowledging where these are because i am sick of politicians or like everything going great, isn t it amazing? the statue of liberty is selling the pics on only fans. not a good time in the country but is it possible they are not charging the fee to drive out of the city because they realized there s so much more money to be made in people leaving? new york is like california we can t get enough you hold so people are paying to leave, not trying to get as much as they think. very well said. a former cia guy, supposed to be on the lookout things that are strange and unusual. it s not that this, they are not trying to screw the little guy? it s not you talk about idaho at the beginning because they are coming to idaho every single one of them landing in our state. a wonderful place to be and been told by my friends to shut up on nice it is. there is that, too. my only problem is every time i show up, they think i m in the witness protection program. killed the shows you ve done. the egyptian theater? shot to them. what you think new yorkers will spend $15 on, weed or weed? [laughter] i had to tell you, thank, i think heroin i think is the new thing making people sleep through the exhausting summer. according to a new report it sounds like the president will spend $15 on old-timers meds, not good. journal published an article claiming behind those doors, joe biden showing signs of slipping. you need to tell me the guy who shakes hands with invisible people and gets lost is not all there? i don t know that i buy this but the white house pushback, it s not a cheap going of his opponent. [laughter] you buying reports the biden is putting? i saw him talking to a dead guy last week. i don t understand phrasing because everything i ve seen, behind closed doors, he s not just slipping behind closed doors. we see it everywhere, mental acuity problem and i m not anxious for saying that, everybody is getting older and we are heading in that direction but people age differently and that is the problem biden is facing, aging significantly different than opponents. i like how you will not affect kennedy went they said people age more than others. you pay for my food job and facelift. i didn t pay for it, i did. [laughter] do you think trump charlene into his 34 convictions pointing out he s on the candidate declared mentally fit to stay on trial? criminals are saying, that s what new york is full of them. he s doing great, 34 is a good number like 45, something algorithmic. number 34. one, two, 34. [laughter] you think reports like this are the reason kareem tapia seem to be more we met her in d.c.? she was overserved? [laughter] she was going to have to tell so soda sure she could grip the green and i think they poured something in her sock. [laughter] she was. [laughter] so incompetent, she think she s going to be president when biden dies. oh no. she better get that ready it is not good. shout out to kj p who was from the other party and anyone watching like how could you say hello to her? was a black lesbian drunk at a party, thus the first half of my entire search history. [laughter] no way are we not living this out. good thing it wasn t a dalmatian there. the descent went to washington to press conference to help more black entrepreneurs enter the liquor industry. probably and nobody because sales slowed down for some reason. [laughter] fifty poses with lawmakers including this one. it s worth noting after hanging, 50% is going by 69 cents because of inflation, dirtbags. fondling a man during his showing up beetlejuice which is in the sexiest show in the world. if you ve never seen it, here s a picture of beetlejuice. so silly. [laughter] asked lori lightfoot the let s go to the panel on this. we saw d.c. she did look ready to mingle. you think washington for call of duty call of duty? [laughter] i think it s a multi- tool player. he knew what he was doing when he went into the office. masterminding the idea of masterminding the community which is not true but if you re trying to do something productive, isn t congress the last group of people you would meet with? , absolutely, ground zero for dysfunction. i can t believe you brought up the old crack [laughter] we just dispelled that rumor finally after all these years. [laughter] it s not real? well released unknown information shortly. the age of instagram, wouldn t he be smarter to encourage more entrepreneurs to sell ozempic? yeah but there s something cool about a guy that s been shot nine times hanging out with such a pro-gun advocate. [laughter] they are fantastic to make the alton ultimate partisanship. i love how right he s leaning and getting shot nine times will do that to you. that s true. [laughter] that happened to you at last year s parade. the biggest celebrity news of the week, alec baldwin, her own reality show. this show is going to kill. [laughter] don t look at me, he did it. baldwin still facing involuntary manslaughter charges in new mexico stemming from a shooting on the set of his film, rest so shocking to see this offering from tlc and brought us classy programs such as culberson trs. they aired seasons of little people, big world because before the show was renamed gutfeld. [laughter] what you more excited about, watching fulton pretended to be a nice guy or his wife pretend to be spanish? where are the children? [laughter] you spent three months in spain came back sounding like javier. [laughter] she s not lying. [laughter] your critics have said they wouldn t watch their show at gunpoint which is a real possibility. will you be watching? first of all, nothing to do with that practicing. [laughter] just saying. this is incredible he would show this so soon after that disastrous situation on the set of this movie so i m not going to watch it. i still haven t figured out why they call themselves i knew a guy who sent me to the er on the production team and of government a more depressed version of my life, is just creating complete [bleep] i m sorry. it s saturday night at 10:00. if people have aligned to draw, they dread like eight minutes ago. [laughter] now this is interesting, alec baldwin did the worst trump impression comics that. but stick with me, is it possible shows ahead, his own problems will trigger guys trump? manslaughter in the spotlight, probably more significant than whatever he did with stormy daniels. it s good they will magnify how bad he is and watch how bad his entire family becomes. i can t wait until i have pro- palestine protesters and stuff. the participants went after him like they were going after alec baldwin demanding cease-fire like dude, he can t get a cease-fire on his own movie set. [laughter] could you help a brother out? tonight s show is off the rails and we re just getting going. iconic sermon is here to explain the mysteries of the universe. thank you much with her again, wheel of fortune cookies. take away. your risk of developing shingles increases. 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[laughter] you want to keep people in the dark ages and i understand want balance but to say they should live in mud huts and [bleep] holes and get dysentery because it s a better story for us in a good thing for us to study. it would cost you 3500 a month on the upper west side of manhattan. [laughter] anybody thinking about moving here, we can get you the deal. i would argue it is the phone that is the culprit in terms of people s unhappiness because portability means we are always connected and that s what s making us feel conflict driven, internet good but spending too much time. musk sent them an old-style computer and they had to wait around and it would be public shaming involved. but this is the calm, that s where the internet is the monistic gratification. we all remember what was like to get pornography in a different era and these people if they want to see born with for the internet, they had to go to a kyiv and pick up a rock from a carpet inscription on the wall and look at what they drew. they have to do what we had to do which is find discarded a magazine in the woods someone else dropped or you go to 711 and by 14 items and hope they don t notice use of the healthcare in their. [laughter] is a lot of work and now it s just there. it is frustrating. i do long for the days before the internet because i got kids and you ve got kids and you got several. [laughter] but we are not doing them any favors. to correct the record since you set the record straight on that record, i have one kid according to maury jenny put up some numbers. i was a nailbiter. [laughter] i ve never been on a more crowded stage of my life, thousands but do you think that is the problem with the internet? if they can have one access they would like the internet? it s like why should we be the only ones lazy self-centered children who won t talk to us? wants us the only one analyzing about beautiful phenomena but one social scientist says you could give split phones and they shouldn t have the internet and i don t disagree with that. it s hard to be given all this technology at once with no filter or explanation. it s likely sped things up too quickly so it s traumatizing at that. we have seen some traumatizing things. they don t even know what they are watching, they think are weird rain god sent them this. they are right to be exploited. i set this up as a nigerian prince and getting a bunch of bundles from these people. but you have to split the money with bob menendez. i got to introduce crack police they will be waiting longer for more. this lovely rub to us. [laughter] baker in brazil tonight. thank you for bringing us democracy, please don t do it again. 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[applause] she s at a board meeting. ed board meeting. [laughter] not her, don t get me wrong. [laughter] a girl. there s broadcast history if there ever was some. not every day genius astronomer behind start talk down behind the planetarium. we are joined by his excellency, author of the new book to nvidia date and beyond, neil degrasse tyson is here. listen to the crowd. there was a strong move demanding we refer to you as his excellency. i did not do that. [laughter] at the. understand you got hooked on astronomy. my first service visit. did you visit the pink floyd laser light show or something? the dark side of the moon and i knew there was no such thing as the dark side of the moon, it turned me off. loss that was like a laser show it is just a laser. eventually lasers were imposed lasers items at the checkout associate people stopped going. i was in the universe early. jumps campaign song is the wall. [laughter] good night, everybody. [laughter] we read you wrestled in high school. captain and undefeated. i have to know this, did you progress me? no the junkyard dog or something? no. [laughter] what about the word no did you not understand? say it louder. [laughter] clearly i didn t understand the wardrobes to work with me. it was a good movie. i hosted a fox nation documentary called will abandon fiction. i do think we landed, my question, how come all these years later no other country has put a man on the moon? a couple of things. everyone remembers, remembers it incorrectly. the thinking americans, it s in our dna, we are explorers we take that sentence, put a man on the moon was a decade is out and it s storing language and look at the same beach what he said before, the events of recent weeks. couldn t out of the man s name. recent weeks are any indication of the impact of this adventure and minds of men everywhere, we need to show the world freedom over the path of tierney. there s a battle cry against communism and that s why we went to the moon. i don t think it s any other reason, that wrote the checks. the i don t want to die force operating on puzzle. when we got to the moon we were there for like two or three years no russians. [laughter] look over our shoulder, no questions. i love that. it s amazing what you think russia never went? we beat them to it? they said we beat them to it but between you and me, somebody beat me to julia roberts. julia, if you are out there didn t have 100 billing dollars, a new high ground not much utility in providing a cold war. think of saying what it said made sense. you got the community college endorsement. [laughter] that is a big deal, sure. i beat mike tyson in 1987. [laughter] five time super bowl champion. you are not dealing with just nothing. are we alone in the universe? any person who studies the problem, look at the ingredients of life, carbon and nitrogen, everywhere in the universe. like i started almost weekly as it possibly could have so no one denies the likelihood that we are not alone in the universe. have you driven for taxi, i ve definitely met others. that s a different question. part of me is thinking aliens have looked on earth and ran back home and said there s no science. .com twitter. there likely are out. what is the age of the universe, what is the age of the universe? you think there is a recent revision to the universe? there is some uncertainty but small uncertainty. to camps, 13.8 billion years, 13.7 but that s approximately where it is. that settles, the final answer is in that zone. it won t be 80s alien or 6000 no. it will be in the high 13-point something. relatively give or take same age as nancy pelosi. [laughter] good night, neil. good luck. biden s age was ready for the taking. bob writes asked neil to disprove the flat earth theory. [laughter] a couple of things. are you ready? the tallest building in the world, the beginning of ramadan during ramadan you eat at su sunset. do you know they issue a report, a table depending on what floor you are on, different time the sun sets so you would have to eat a little later than those lower in the next one if earth is round because it s setting beyond the around edge. not only that, i have photos and you can watch the sun set, one for a second so 110 107 flights of to minister fully set for those looking beyond the curvature of the earth. take that i love the glazed look in your eyes. there s a lot going on. we both watched football games, new york city, who watched football games in the winter taking place in california where the sun was still up, it s dark here and like their. new york football fans, not watching the fund, we are watching on the edge of the building. [laughter] thank you so much. we are talking music and more next but it takes away. it s not another drop. it s the first and only nasal spray for dry eye. tyrvaya treats the signs and symptoms of dry eye disease fast by helping your body produce its own real tears. common side effects include sneezing, cough, and throat and nose irritation. relying only on drops? not me. my own real tears are my relief. ask your eye doctor about tyrvaya. the grand marshall for tomorrow s would become day parade, is better known as the cleaning of what music you not impressed. first trump in the end, that s not nothing. joining me now to compare physical ram is amazed in the crowd goes wild. no would you have a great to the show had you known you d share the spotlight with the musical product. tough to swalwell. mike, have you heard of guitar hero? he can t a level two mimic his channel is carport. i also play the skinflint. [laughter] ehrenberg. whole bunch of tunnels and booklet. [laughter] lead robert in the plan. they can t get booked and ivy league but a great band. what was your go to beyond your dad? was or something that got you into music? yes, i am a rocker, a lot of people don t know. i am into metallica, slang in heavy stuff. trying to find a way to put mama and metal together. my dad would be like what you listen to? still intellect and hip-hop it is like an eclectic mix of music. all types of different styles of music. what was your first favorite rock band? i will have to go with santana because got me through college. [laughter] stop on the mets, a lot of people don t know that the guy that used to sell weed at 140 been true story. people walking around the country and around the world may never experience the parade. can you give a sense of what that like? speaking of lead [laughter] celebrating our culture, likelihood, great danceable music and i attribute my father to the stable of new york, natural liberty and empire state building. a puerto rican question, reportedly on the market, would you tell your friends give a shot or two high maintenance? i don t know. a lot of friends in the br bronx. [laughter] so they ve never met her b back. they want to know is a better pic puerto rican community or like north carolina, whose pig roast you think is better? a good question, very good, quickwitted in the ground or take out. i don t need to compete but i m an expert, i go to this place the olive garden, i don t know if you ve heard of it i m kidding. if you are not a musician, would you be? i get the question sometimes and i told my father, i was learning about forensic science and wanted to be a mortician and learn more and he s at what you do? your keeping music to keep people alive. gravitated and traveled with him and now i m making life to make maybe death metal is more of your mortician side coming up. we are going to do some headbanging. [laughter] [applause] in honor of wheel of fortune host pat sajak giving his final bow last night, we are playing our own twist on the game wheel of fortune cookies. you re going to go ahead and join us next. it may not sound like it, but this. is actually progress at 225 miles per hour. shell renewable race fuel. reducing emissions by 60% in all ntt indycar® series races. we re moving forward with indycar. because we re moving forward with everybody. shell. powering progress. sajak hosting wheel of fortune lastly because apparently so they could afford to buy follow. it didn t help and transported him to repurchase cohost. the career for the spinoff called wheel of fortune cookie most because in our lives if we played the real game. what you the real but contains a series of life dilemmas. each of you will draw from the pile of fortune cookies and submit the one you think offers the best advice on the issue. we follow this? of the work the answer is the close to acceptable, the winner gets a free trip to chinese buffet and disclosure gets to trips pig here we go, cracker cookies open and play the game. the cia on crack, once again i m going to spin the wheel you give me what you think is the answer that will line up with this problem the best. so far, so good. here comes the spent, clear off. major life dilemma, horn ruins your amazon tribe. call back from the people, does anyone have anything resembling the situation? a thrilling times in store for you. will depend on what you wa watch. here we go. the wheel is turning. here we go. the wheel spins again you bought season tickets. unseen forces will come to your aid. unseen forces, humane fans. way to go. you want to counter that? is not quite perfect but good. you have something close, you can pass. here we go. we spin again. mary to jail, a lot of call callbacks. a true friend is somebody there for you when he d rather be anyone else. that s a shout out to matt damon is helping the u-haul. you wanted something? i hit tom. we are tied one one one. next life dilemma, no repeats. i was told by the gaming commission. red points build on your white couch. bound to happen to one of our viewers. does anyone have a solution? a good way to keep healthy is to eat more chinese food. it seems like propaganda by the people who stuck the menu on your door. let us access your personal information via tik tok. 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that s it for me. thanks for watching. tune in tomorrow where i am speaking with congressman jerry connelly. plus, senior adviser and spoke s person for president biden s campaign, adrienne elrod joins us to talk importance of border security to voters ahead of november s election tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. follow us on social media using the handle, at weekend capehart. listened every episode of our show as a podcast for free. scan the qr code on your screen to follow. but, keep it right here. a frightening film about a serial killer. robert barnsley: .he d say, when you re turning the blade, grit your teeth and really really show that you re enjoying it. we had talked about how would you kill somebody and get away with it. i had dark thoughts and shared them with the serial killer. it was supposed to be a movie, a frightening film about a serial killer. you grit your teeth and really show that you on bare enjoying it. but, was it really just pretend? eels get down on the ground and took out duct tape. i have never in my life felt fear like that. a rising young film director filming a murder, or actually committing one? he told me well, you liked dexter. when you take a step back you realize this is a real man who has been murdered. the script was darker than anyone knew. like holy mackerel. who are you, really? everyone was on the edge of their seat. and underground parking garage, you are watching a violent attack caught on tape. who was this? what is happening? or, did it happen at all? movies, like that one, are by design, deceptive. make-believe worlds, but have you noticed maybe it is all the technical doodads and digital cameras. some stories that claim to be true or not. anybody can manipulate reality, sometimes what they say is true is it. sometimes, fiction turns out to be fact, and then there are stories, just a few, and which fact and fiction fuse and that is where we are going tonight, a twilight zone world of illusion and deception and deceit. follow the howling wind north across a vast prairie through brief, brilliant summers and winters as frigid as any on earth to a metropolis canadians call the gateway to the north, the city whose police department stays very busy. this is detective bill clark. the city is edmonton, canada. today i got a call from a family whose son was killed in december. nothing in a career so strange as the case of a man who went missing and bill clark found himself in another world between fantasy and illusion. have you ever seen a case like this before? never in my life. when it started out, it seemed perfectly simple, a missing man, some guy just dropped out of sight, the kind of thing that tends to sort itself out once the so-called victim sobers up. i m not thinking much is going to come of this. after clark s decades of service in the city with the highest murder rate in canada, you can hardly blame them for getting a little picky. we don t usually go to missing person. unfortunately, for us to come out you ve got to be dead and it had better be criminal. if the patrolman doesn t know it s criminal, don t bother calling us. yeah, you got enough to do. which explains perhaps why some of the locals have taken to calling their city, deadmonton. our concern is, do we have a foul play. the missing person in this case is a man by the name of john altinger. 39, single, worked in the oil industry, liked to ride motorcycles. unlucky with women, yet, a wide circle of friends who are now telling the police altinger seem to have dropped off the face of the earth except the strange emails he was sending. i ve left with a woman, i m going to costa rica. one of the recipients of those old emails, his old friend, debra taichrob. i received several of them. i received six altogether, but in runs of three. the exact same message? hi there, i ve met a wonderful girl named jen. i m going to costa rica and i will keep in touch and call you when i get back after the holidays. johnny. almost formal, and away, suddenly like somebody you didn t really know was sending you an email. absolutely, and i was like that s really odd, it doesn t sound like john. it was odd, and even more so when another friend of altinger s received exactly the same message word for word and altinger s facebook status change from single to in a relationship. i think it was the following day, i was on msn messenger and johnny popped on mine, so i thought oh, he must not have left on his vacation yet, and it said johnny, his name, and then in quotations beside his name, who says i ve got a one- way ticket to heaven and i m never coming back. later that same day, debra got a call from the same friend who told her john altinger seems to be missing. it s surreal, you know. you don t expect your friends to go missing. soon, altinger s friends got together, unsure of what to do, really but before going to police, they decided to try to get into his condo, to see if they could find a clue what happened to get the guy in the break-in, actually. everything looked fine. nothing out of place, no sign of any struggle. the only things missing were his wallet, his keys and his red mazda coop, so it was as if he had gone out for a drive and could be back any minute. there were no answers to anything, like he just vanished out of thin air. except for those strange emails he had supposedly sent about falling in love and coaster rica, which to the cops, said clark, seemed perfectly reasonable. not hard to imagine that a lovestruck man might want to leave the snow and ice of edmonton behind and skip off to the tropics. the sky send these emails to his friends and we are going well, that strange, but maybe he did go to costa rica. stranger things have happened. you never know. that is how clark felt before he stepped through the looking glass. coming up, detective clark is about to follow john altinger s trail into a strange place of make-believe , and up-and- coming directors makeshift movie studio. it s a suspense thriller, actually. it s a short film. as soon as they called me on the phone, i got this weird chill. when dateline continues. with wegovy®, i lost 35 pounds. and some lost over 46 pounds. and i m keeping the weight off. wegovy® helps you lose weight and keep it off. i m reducing my risk. wegovy® is the only fda-approved weight-management medicine that s proven to reduce risk of major cardiovascular events in adults with known heart disease and with either obesity or overweight. wegovy® shouldn t be used with semaglutide or glp-1 medicines. don t take wegovy® if you or your family had medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop wegovy® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis and gallbladder problems. wegovy® may cause low blood sugar in people with diabetes, especially if you take medicines to treat diabetes. tell your provider about vision problems or changes, or if you feel your heart racing while at rest. depression or thoughts of suicide may occur. call your provider right away if you have any mental changes. common side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. with wegovy®, i m losing weight, i m keeping it off. and i m lowering my cv risk. that s the power of we. check your cost and coverage before talking to your health care professional about wegovy®. you re the one that i want nexgard® combo is the only monthly topical that protects against fleas, ticks, tapeworms, and more. use with caution in cats with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. nexgard combo,. you re the one that i want .the monthly one-and-done you want. introducing new advil targeted relief. the only topical pain reliever with 4 powerful pain-fighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. 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( ) and with once-daily trelegy, it can still be beautiful. because with 3 medicines in 1 inhaler, trelegy keeps my airways open for a full 24 hours and prevents future flare-ups. trelegy also improves lung function, so i can breathe more freely all day and night. trelegy won t replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. what a wonderful world [laughing] ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy for copd because breathing should be beautiful, all day and night. condominium, as you can see, looked like anything because breathing should be beautiful, but a crime scene. there were no signs of a struggle, no blood. it was like he just stepped out for a few minutes, could be back anytime. where was he? johnny s friends were convinced something awful had happened to him. so, day after day, they prodded the police; john altinger s condominium looked like anything but a crime scene. there were no signs of a struggle, no blood. it was like he just stepped out for a few minutes and could be back anytime. where was he? and johnny s friends were convinced something awful had happened to him, so day after day, they prodded the police and finally, seven days after johnny went missing, the cops agreed to open an investigation. we just started with the basics. i said with got to start out by finding out if we can find him first so let s find the car. since john altinger s email said he had taken off for costa rica, officers went to the airport to look for that red mazda. they searched every parking lot. it wasn t here. they come through airline passenger lists. he was not on any of them. johnny s friends, meanwhile, went back to the apartment for another look and found, stashed away among his important papers, his passport. they re going oh, not getting out of the country without your passport. seemed like he had to be within driving distance but what direction where? just as the police were contemplating that puzzle, one of altinger s friends came up with another email. this one, johnny had received from a woman he met online. janet was her name, the same woman with whom he had supposedly scampered off to costa rica. they had a date and were going out on the town the night he disappeared and because he had never been to her place, she sent him an email with directions on how to pick her up and out of an abundance of caution, he sent a copy of that email to a friend of his, just in case. i can t remember the last word of the email but he says if anything happens to me, you know where i m at, and you know, laugh out loud. it wasn t a phone number or an address, but there were detailed directions to her place, so the cops drove the root, and the directions led them to this neighborhood down this alley, and to this garage rented by a guy named mark twitchell. he happened to be, in the local arts community, local celebrity. he was making a name for himself in edmonton. he had recently made a low- budget sci-fi movie so they called him up, of course, and he readily agreed to come down and open the place up. when he got here, big surprise, someone had changed the lock. he could not get in, so with permission, officers broken, had a quick look around, and found nothing. just the same, with the changed walk in the weird coincidence of the email, there were things to figure out and mark twitchell was only too happy to tag along to the police station to help out however he could. the first thing i noticed is the padlock did not look familiar to me. twitchell explained he d been using the rented garage is a soundstage most recently for what they call a teaser, a short film designed to drum up publicity , buzz, with any luck, attract enough investor money to allow him to produce a full length feature movie. it s a suspense thriller, actually. a short film. okay, so yeah, suspense thriller? of course, he had a crew in and out of the place during filming, said mark. maybe one of them was up to something but it seemed unlikely, and none of them had ever asked to borrow the set for anything. so, if there was anything like that, if somebody needed to borrow the place or whatever, then they would let me know. they d let you know. they would ask, or something like that, so no, i don t know anything about that. anyway, he said, he had moved on for now to another project. i m working on a comedy right now which is actually a full feature, with a decent budget in the neighborhood of about 3 1/2 million. in the meantime, the garage comes studio was empty, so why would someone break into the place and then change the lock, he wondered. didn t make sense. i had a padlock previously but it wasn t the same one. it was silver on the outside with a black plastic dial in the center and this one was just all metal, so. so, you notice the different padlock on the door. mystifying, said mark. he had a bad feeling about this. a man disappears after telling police he was going to the very place his movie had been shooting. as soon as they called me on the phone, i get this weird chill. what about that woman john altinger had been flirting with online, the one who gave him directions to the garage, told him she would meet him there. the woman who signed her emails jen . does the name, jen, mean anything to you? no. we don t have a jen or anything like that. so, the name jen doesn t mean anything to you? you don t know an actress named jen? so, who was this mystery woman, jen? why in the world which she arranged to meet john altinger here in the very back yard garage and independent edmonton film crew was renting for use as a studio. how odd. especially since the movies producer director, mark twitchell, expressed exactly the same confusion as the police. he didn t get it, either. the dots did not connect. mark twitchell did not know johnny from adam and besides, there was no indication johnny ever made it to the garage at all. the close friends are the ones who have come to the police and they have nothing other than his emails. there was one thing, though, and it came from mark twitchell. he wondered if maybe somebody was being set up. it just doesn t sit right, so the first thing i started asking myself is, who all knows about what we do there and what our schedule looks like and stuff like that. is the disappearance staged somehow? if someone was being fooled, who was it, and why? was all this just some big stunt even a publicity stunt? detective bill clark was thoroughly engaged by now. he had spent a career listening to criminal spender stories. maybe you could figure out if this twitchell guy was trying to play the cops somehow. he pulled the recording of the interview. and i watch an interview, i listen to what the guy says but i m looking at body language, i m looking for signs of deceit. i remember coming out of their going you know, this mark twitchell guy interviewed really well. there were no signs of deception. he is free-flowing with the information. he has answered the questions logically. i don t see any looking away, nervousness, nothing. i see nothing. and then, when police looked into twitchell s production company, they encountered a perfectly legitimate company. more than that, actually. this was a promising effort to help edmonton get some national attention as a potential center of moviemaking. mark twitchell was very good at coming up attention and money from local investors. he was a very sharp, bright, young, articulate entrepreneur. exactly the kind of individual most of us are looking for. so, he checked out. hard-working local boy in the city of hard-working people. good parents, nice young wife, sweet little daughter, on his way to becoming a celebrity here in edmonton. detectives even got a look at the teaser film for twitchell s next projects, three and half million dollar buddy comedy. that is mark in the background playing the role of director even as he was the director, sort of a hall of mirrors type story, a movie about a movie about making a movie or something. fantasy and reality all mixed up somehow. just to cover the bases, police interviewed mark twitchell s crew members and they vouched for him completely. mark twitchell came off squeaky clean. his film company was respected, as was he, and bill clark and the edmonton police back at square one by the look of things. coming up, soon, this tough cop would catch a big break. we got a phone call from a detective. the detective says you won t believe it but this guy just told me he found a red mazda out there. the missing man s car turns up when dateline continues. urns up when dateline continues. -cologuard®? 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keith morrison: (voiceover) in fact, bill clark is an old-school detective, the sort that seems to exist more on the big screen than the mean streets. in fact, clark is such a throwback, the younger guys on the fourth kid him. they call him simple it s after the old hard-nosed detective on the top show, nypd blue. i still like coming to work every day. it s just part of my life. i still have the drive. i m still excited about it. in his decades on the edmonton police force, clark and scene murder take many forms, had seen the shattering effect it has on the family. you are the one the family depends on and i take that seriously. ultimately, that is in the back of your mind, that if you don t speak for the family or the dead guy, who is going to? for clark, there is no greater satisfaction than bringing in a killer. i consider myself a pitbull. you get a case and you get your teeth into it. we want to get the guy, we want to get this guy and put them away. as for the john altinger case, this wasn t even a murder, at least, not as far as anyone new yet, so clark kept himself on a tight leash . he had yet to smell blood. he must ve come to some point where you thought oh, there is definitely foul play here. no, not at all. all that they had, after all, was a missing man, johnny, who might just have driven off somewhere with her without some mystery woman named jen. certainly that would account for the fact that his red mazda coop was gone, too, but really aside from a few curious emails that might or might not make any sense, there was not much to go on, so being cops, clark and his colleagues employed standard procedure. they double back for a second look at things, like the garage johnny was apparently headed for when he vanished. we are thinking our next step logically as the garage. so, they applied for a search warrant and it was rejected. it gets turned down because we are told we have not proven there was a crime committed. so, the next step seemed simple enough. clark went to mark twitchell directly to see if he would give permission to search the garage. he goes yeah. i says i ll need you to sign a consent form. he goes no problem. they requisitioned the form, one of the detectives drove it over to mark s place to get a signature and then, the weirdest thing. i get a phone call from the detective. the detective says to me he says you won t believe it, but the guy just told me he bought a red mazda. a red mazda and didn t john altinger drive a red mazda and was in it missing? mark twitchell had not said anything about a red mazda when he came down to the police station and spoke to the detective the night before. he said he forgot. really? why would he forget i like that ? you don t want to get tunnel vision. i for homicide investigation, don t get tunnel vision so keep an open mind so i pull myself back. there is something fishy going on. clark invited twitchell to come back down to the station for a meeting at 10:30 on sunday night, and twitchell agreed. everything you do now, we are analyzing. we caught the up arrow down our scenario. the burial and up arrow for marcuse cooperative. the missing car, big down arrow. but, that s about all clark had to work with. we are just here trying to find this john fellow, john altinger. i don t know what s happened to johnny. because, once again, as the interview proceeds, the young filmmaker is the very picture of cooperation. he volunteers information, answers questions without hesitation or guile. his demeanor is expensive. even an untrained eye can see twitchell s body language is open, comfortable, and control. so, they get to the story about the red monster. he was approached, he said, a few blocks from his rented garage by an agitated man. it was the night johnny disappeared. the man seemed desperate to get rid of his car, said mark. he offered to sell it for practically nothing. he goes well, i shacked up with this really rich lady, you know, it s like a sugar mama kind of situation and she s going to take care of me and she s going to buy me a new car will we get back from a vacation regular take. and i and okay, is there like cocaine in the truck? i m trying to figure out what the catch is here. apparently, said mark, there was no catch, and nothing wrong with the car except that it had a standard transmission, which he didn t know how to drive, so he left it parked in a friend s driveway. does he live close by? yes, a couple of blocks away. is it finally a break? the detective monitoring the interview sent a patrol car to check it out and sure enough, there it was, empty, by the look of it. nothing untoward about the car. johnny is not in the car. meanwhile, bill clark left the interview room partly to regroup, but also to see how mark would act when they left him alone, and if he was rattled, he certainly didn t show it. here, he calmly placed a call to his wife. well, i tried to answer some more questions and fill them in and everything like that and it turns out that the car is, in fact, belonging to this missing guy and that it s a huge deal. that s what this whole thing is about. what in heavens name was going on? bill clark still did not have a clue. but he might in a minute, because bill clark good cop was about to become bill clark bad cop. coming up there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you are involved in the disappearance of john altinger. you might be involved, but what was fact and what was fantasy? 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i think he didn t think i was that smart. i think he thought he was smarter than me and i believe that he felt that anything he told us, he could concoct to make us believe him. and of course, there is only one proper response to that. i just let him go then taken back through it. question-and-answer, standard procedure, just nail down the details now. now i m starting to see he s not remembering specific details. let s go back to your lunch. you are at lunch. would you go for lunch? don t remember. don t know where you want for lunch? no. so now, it was early morning. they had been at it for hours. they had taken a break and let mark twitchell sit by himself and perhaps stew a bit and now had time for clark to play a different role. we done the good cop routine. now my forte, the bad cop is coming in. this is what i like. this is what i relish. there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you are involved in the disappearance of john altinger. no doubt in my mind at all. i? now i m going to start hammering him with what i know. the problem is, i know very little. but, now that was perfectly clear to mark twitchell that he was a suspect in the disappearance and maybe a murder, his easy camaraderie seemed to shrivel. his eyes glazed with something that looked like fear . was he truly innocent? or, was something else going on, something more in keeping with his role as a storyteller? why can t you give me the version of events that night? has i m scared. as the night dragged on, twitchell doubled something about reality seeming more like some sort of fantasy. but, in the face of all of detectives clark s accusations, mark twitchell never wavered. for nearly four hours, he answered clark s questions always polite, apparently helpful, did not as much as ask for a lawyer. a by the end of the night? i got nothing. my gut instinct at that time is that the sky is involved up to his neck in this but what exactly he s done, i don t know yet, but i m going to find out. finally, at daybreak, mark twitchell let clark know he d had enough. in my being charged? not yet. am i free to go? yes. and i will. okay. and then, as bill clark escorted mark twitchell out of the building and into the early morning dark, he ups the ante a little, told twitchell he was seizing his car . then he goes he almost stopped and pulled back and he goes well, i need to get something out of it and i says you re getting nothing. i m taking that car. and, it was then, as clark approached twitchell s car to take it to the impound yard, that he noticed mark s unusual license plate personalized dark jedi. coming up. i have never in my life felt fear like that. police find witnesses who saw something that seemed like a horror movie. it s like every nightmare you had as a child after watching a scary movie, every nightmare you ve ever had. all of a sudden it s right here. when dateline continues. here. when dateline continues. is no exception. it s time you had a proven choice to help restore what s yours. opzelura is the first and only fda-approved prescription treatment for nonsegmental vitiligo. proven to help repigment skin over time. restoring what s yours. it s possible with a steroid-free cream that you can apply yourself. opzelura can lower your ability to fight infections including tb or hepatitis b or c. serious lung infections, skin cancer, blood clots, and low blood cell counts occurred with opzelura. in people taking jak inhibitors, serious infections, increased risk of death, lymphoma, other cancers, and major cardiovascular events have occurred. the most common side effects were acne and itching where applied. repigmentation is possible. ask your dermatologist today about starting or refilling opzelura. pursue it. you re the one that i want nexgard® combo is the only monthly topical that protects against fleas, ticks, tapeworms, and more. use with caution in cats with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. nexgard combo,. you re the one that i want .the monthly one-and-done you want. everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it s a great product. it s going to help a lot of patients. diabetes can serve up a lot of questions. like what is your glucose and can you have more carbs? 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so, besides twitchell, police also focus their attention on this quiet suburban neighborhood around twitchell s rented garage studio where john altinger may have gone to see a woman he met online. they went door-to-door , had anyone seen john altinger or his car or anything suspicious? they found this couple who told a story that seemed almost lifted from a horror movie. i have never in my life felt fear like that. these two, their names are marissa and trevor, were out for an evening stroll when they stepped through the looking glass. it happened when a young man came stumbling out of this alley and collapsed in front of them. he was on the ground and it was just an instant bad feeling. he looked up and said i m being robbed. can you help me? then, as if on cue, another man. in pursuit. as i looked up the attacker almost ran into me. the attacker was wearing a dark, hooded sweatshirt and a hockey mask. it s like every nightmare you have as a child after watching a scary movie. every nightmare you ve ever had. all of a sudden, it s right here. this was no bewitching hour. it was 7:30, and early autumn sun had just begun to take on the glow of a long, northern evening. neighborhood kids were still struggling home from soccer practice. is it believable to you? yes and no, because the way that he fell, to me, looked staged. to get us to stop so they could grab us. yeah, we thought it was a set up for us. so, you did not know whether he was going to assault you or whether he was running from that guy for real. exactly. then, so trevor and marissa, the masked man retreated into the alley to this garage. that is where he stood. he stood there like he was protecting something. i was like, i m getting out of here right now. trevor and marissa left the man on the ground pleading for help like some seasoned method actor and left. when i got home, they called the police, so squad cars prowled the streets as the autumn wind light angled toward the horizon but in that quiet, nothing seemed out of place. nothing amiss. that was that until weeks later when police came back here looking for john altinger . was the guy in the alley actually johnny, not an actor, was he a real victim? one of the detectives went downtown to check on the report taken from trevor and marissa, and it didn t fit. that call was taken a week before johnny disappeared. besides, no victim ever came forward. no one claimed to have been attacked by a masked man. the whole thing sounded almost like , well, like a scene from the movie. coming up, or just maybe, a tv show about a serial killer. what attracted you to director? what i loved about the show in the books is how he was able to explore that darkside, rationalize that it s okay to kill somebody because this person deserves it in a way. and dateline continues. y. and dateline continues. but this is my story. 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which, said barnsley, was exactly what director twitchell seemed to want. there s a point where i had to stab the dummy through the chest with a samurai sword and he was sitting behind the chair he d be leaning in and say okay listen, when you re turning the blade, grit your teeth and really show that you re enjoying it. wait a minute, was this all about enjoying some fantasy game, pretending to be evil? detectives surfed around twitchell s computer account and discovered a facebook relationship that was all about pretending. at about the time he started filming house of cards, twitchell befriended an animal trainer and aspiring filmmaker, a woman named renee wary. and edmonton detective flew all the way to cleveland to question her, where she, right up front about it, told him about clicking on an intriguing facebook profile, dexter morgan. there was a picture of michael c hall, the actor who portrays dexter morgan on showtime. did you think you are friending the actor himself? sure, you know. what attracted you to dexter? what i love about the show in the books is how he was able to explore that darkside and rationalize that it s okay to kill somebody because this person deserved it, in a way. we flirted back and forth and i kept asking him who are you really, tell me who you are because i want to see the man behind the mask. finally, rene s facebook friend relented. no, he was not actor michael c hall, he admitted. his name was mark twitchell. once he told me who he was, i checked them out, you know. i did a lot of research online and found out that he was legitimate and he was up-and- coming. for rene, the would-be filmmaker, this seemed like her big break. he expressed interest in me and my writing styles and my ideas. what did he like about your writing style? you never said specifically. he just said i think we have, you know, like chemistry together and how we would be able to work very well together , and that we thought a lot alike. this had to be pretty exciting. yes. soon, she was intoxicated by this online collaboration and then wonder of wonders, he offered her work on his next project, the feature-length version of his short film, a film, he told her, about a serial killer. we had talked about our hypotheticals about how to kill somebody and get away with it. he told me well, you do it like dexter because dexter shows you how to do it all the time. dark? yes, but all in fun, of course, like twitchell s playful advice on eliminating, and dexter -like fashion, one of rene s rival in romance. with both her hands wrapped in duct tape, free one arm and slit the wrist. a hunters game processing kit comes with everything you need to cut the body into nice, manageable pieces. disturbing? yes but remember, all pretense. but then, a couple of weeks later, and this is what she told the police, something happened, strange and unsettling. there was a weekend-long pause in their play talk about dexter the darkside. not a single email from her friend, mark twitchell. then, when they came in with it, an apology that also had something else keeping me busy, he wrote. i m really concerned about telling anyone because of the implications. suffice it to say i crossed the line on friday. and, i liked it. crossed the line? what did that mean? coming up. was this all part of an elaborate hoax? a staged fantasy were something truly terrifying, when dateline continues. truly terrifying, when dateline continues. 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2008, weeks after his wife kicked him out and cops began tailing him everywhere, he decided to be ironman. built the costume in his parents garage. but, on the very witchy afternoon, hours from his planned grand entrance to a gala halloween party, as he was walking to a local coffee house to meet with potential movie investors, he was thrown to the ground by men wearing their own unique costumes. members of the s.w.a.t. team. mark twitchell was handcuffed and charged with the murder of johnny altinger. that made big headlines. police even held a press conference to announce the arrest. the reporters who had gathered were left with one juicy tidbit. we have a lot of information that he idolizes dexter. we went to his facebook page. steve was a crime reporter for the edmonton journal. he had a post that said mark twitchell is too much in common with dexter morgan and the idea that there s a man out there who is attacking strangers, innocent victims, it s almost myth. something built up by hollywood. it didn t seem like it could be real. in edmonton, the question began to circulate. had the cops been played by a clever promoter? mark twitchell is known as a prankster. people thought it was a hoax. you almost wonder whether or not he was doing it as a publicity stunt. exactly. so maybe, bill clark and the rest of the police force would wind up with red faces and not just from the cold. except, there was one little bit of news police did not announce. when they searched twitchell s car, they found a laptop and on the hard drive at that laptop, very smart detective found a deleted temporary file. a document about 40 pages long. could be described as a diary, maybe a far-fetched novel right treatment for a dexter episode. it was called sk confessions. it was a first person account written from the perspective and aspiring serial killer. i remember reading this the first day when they brought it down and i said holy mackerel, this tells us everything. except he s a professional storyteller who tells, you know, movies. they are not real. weren t you afraid you might be about to be drawn into a rabbit hole? something that might be true or not be true, it might be f&s e- absolutely. we had huge discussions about this. it read more like a work of fiction. like a story that could not possibly be true. it seems like a hoax right from the opening paragraph. this is the story of my progression into becoming a serial killer. i don t remember the exact place and time it was i decided to be a serial killer, but i remember the sensation that hit me. it was a rush of pure euphoria. there was something about exploring my dark side the greatly appealed to me. the author seemed inspired by the tv show dexter. i m a huge fan of the showtime series dexter, as you may have guessed, if you re at all familiar with the show. and a particular scene played an important role. i watched an episode of dexter where the flashback showed his father showing dexter a scan of the human brain. he identify the difference between a serial killer sprain in a normal person s brain. i was convinced that what i was was my own decision, my own path, but now i truly wondered if i had little choice at all. of genetics play a bigger role than i thought. i knew i was a psychopath further than he sociopaths because i had the perfect upbringing and no history of abuse, violence, or trauma. in sk professions, it s graphic. how the killer dispatches victims with a mental mental pipe. i thrusted in his gut. his reaction was pure hollywood. the lurch forward with the grant was dead on tv movie of the week. the little i knew at the time and the things i found, thought it was true. cops can have hunches and think what they want, but this hunches really hold up in court. sk confessions could be a make- believe story, might not be written by twitchell. it could ve been downloaded from the internet . investigators started going through sk confessions line by line, to see if they could sort out fact from fiction. and, indeed, police found details that lined up with reality. the writer in his first person account tells the reader how he used a processing kit to dismember the victim s body and police found a processing kit in twitchell s garage. the killers said he tried to burn the victim s body in an oil drum and his parents backyard. at twitchell s parents backyard, they found a burned ring on the back lawn. there was a detail about the killer getting a speeding ticket and so did twitchell about the time that johnny altinger disappeared. he joked about it about how this dumb cop didn t realize he had just killed a guy. he was now going out to celebrate and have sex with his girlfriend. the cop remembered up. it came back and we know the conversation. it was basically word for word that story told us. exactly what the sheriff told us. there was a key part of the story that could not be verified. a passage that goes on for pages about an earlier attack, but that victim got away. that part of the story read like that directly from the house of cards grip where the victim is tasered by man wearing a hockey mask and hood. it s a big part to prove it s true or not. it was a huge part. if someone had been attacked that way, you would ve heard of it. exactly. we got nothing. no call. nothing that even matches the similarity. is seem to be one part of the story that didn t make sense. they went public and released a photo of the hockey mask. that what week somebody s memory that that was me. it was a longshot, really. maybe that person did not exist. they put it out there. they waited. not for long. because, that very evening, a lonely casino security officer named gilles tetreault was puttering on his computer and saw the newspaper article online. the police appeal. they felt the blood drain from his face. that person was him. i am like, oh my god. it s the same hockey mask as i saw, that the guy was wearing. i started reading the story. oh, my god, 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she fell out of love with me, i guess. that s not easy. when he came across that lovely, intelligent woman on an online dating site and she seemed to like him? well, who could resist. she looked beautiful in her profile. i believe i made the first contact. what did she say about herself? she said she was new in town and looking to meet people. i found it a coincidence. so was i kind of thing. with a view alone and looking to meet someone. i thought this is perfect. sheena was her name. she said how about dinner and a movie. she started making excuses that i couldn t pick her up at her front door. so has stayed asked him to park in an alley and comes right back entrance, through a detached garage. she would leave the garage door open and i would go through the garage to the other side, get into the yard and knock on the back door to pick her up. i didn t have to crawl under it. i just had to squat. hopeful, unsuspecting, he walked through the garage door, the store, that leads to the back patio. i touched the not and all of a sudden somebody attacked me from behind. i turned back to look to see what s going on. that is when, all of a sudden, i see this man wearing this black and gold hockey mask. this guy was much bigger than me. prodding me with a stun gun. at first gilles couldn t tell what it was this stinging at the back of his neck. but listen to this from sk confessions? pressing the baton across the back of his neck, pulled the trigger. shocked and jump but did little more than merely alert him to what was going on. i tried to make a run for it. that s when he pulled out a gun. what is that like when somebody pulls a gun on you? terrified. i didn t know what to do. oh, my god, i think i m going to die and i cannot get away. there is no way i can escape a bullet. i felt a sick feeling. i pointed it at him and all of a sudden he took me seriously. his eyes wide. then he yells, get down on the ground. put your face down and close your eyes and put your hands in the back. he took out duct tape. he ripped off a piece. that s when he covered my eyes with them. just about then, gilles tetreault decided hits come to the moment of his death. i started tearing up. it was like life flashed before my eyes. it was quite emotional. oh, my god. my family is never going to see me again. i never told anyone where i was going that day. all of a sudden, by my legs, i hear his belt jiggling. what gilles heard was the sound of handcuffs as they neared his wrists. he said he felt the attacker was undoing his belt. i thought, he is going to rape may. i better fight for my life. i would rather die my way than his way. i knew he s going to pull the gun out again. you know what? 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what in the world just happened? who was the man behind the mask? and why had he been attacked? i decided i need to go back onto that online dating website. i want to get as much information as i can so i can give it to police. i go back on and all of a sudden, everything was gone. her profile was gone. although sent and received messages i got from the person were all gone. what is it like to be sitting alone in front of your computer with that realization in your head? it felt almost ashamed. i can t believe i got duped by this woman. i just want to put this behind me. i want to move on. and did not call the police. no, did not. i had no idea. for weeks, i had nightmares. i kept githinking, maybe this g is following me. maybe he s going to attack me again. i was terrified. i was facing him there with a gun. a month after his journey into the twilight zone, gilles tetreault was giving bill clark a videotape blow-by-blow of the assault. there s no doubt he is being truthful. the cops had real evidence that sk confessions was all true. except, it was not quite complete. it was a story without an end. the part we never had, we never had johnny. johnny altinger. the victim who it seemed did not escape from this suburban garage, still no sign of him. unless, just about then the detectives uncovered some of the, updated version of sk confessions. there was one more chapter. in which the killer leaves a clue. impossible to resist. the police take mark twitchell on a journey to the place where something evil had happened. here we are back at the killing garage. killing garage. nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid for twice as long as pepcid. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium. nexgard® plus helps you protect your dog from fleas, ticks, heartworm disease, and more. all in one delicious, monthly, soft chew. use with caution in dogs with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. nexgard® plus: the one you want for one-and-done protection. i still love to surf, snowboard, or neurologic disorders. and, of course, skate. so, i take qunol magnesium to support my muscle and bone health. qunol s extra strength, high absorption magnesium helps me get the full benefits of magnesium. qunol, the brand i trust. i m richard lui. is real saying it rescued four hostages during a raid in gaza who had been kidnapped by hamas during the music festival october 7. officials say more than 200 palestinians were killed by airstrikes nearby. marks one of the bloodiest single days and eight months of war so far. a 3-year-old horse took the victory in the 156 running of the belmont stakes. there was no triple crown champion is over two different winners in the kentucky derby and preakness stakes. loved the tv show dexter, was so taken with the whole idea the would be movie direction or dashed director loved the tv show dexter. so taken with the whole idea that he posted this online ad, attempt to sell the script for his house of cards short film as if it were an original dexter episode. in fact, the story of his computer, the one called sk confessions is a lot like an episode of the tv show. now, here in his rented garage, police found what looked like a kill room. there was plastic sheeting. autopsy table. all matching the careful descriptions in sk confessions. what the killer could not learn from dexter s how to dispose of the body. the tv dexter lives in miami, dumps his victims in the atlantic. but, edmonton in the middle of thousands of square miles of farmland and oilfields has hundreds of miles from the ocean and that fact seem to have stymied the sk controller who up had no idea how to get rid of the remains. perhaps it never occurred to him to put the body in the trunk of a car and drive it past city limits and bury it behind some old abandoned barn. so, according to sk confessions, tried burning them. that did not work. he thought about throwing them in the saskatchewan river there one town but was afraid someone would see him. he finally decided to toss them down one of the thousands of storm drains. the diary had got to a point where he talked about dumping the body in a sewer and then it ended. by this time, clark believed that the diary was true. all of it. without a body in a case as bizarre as this one, how could any jury be sure any important parts of this sk confessions wants some fantasy from the dark side? clark confronted twitchell with the evidence hoping he would confess. this reminds me of dexter. kill room. clean sweep. you were referring to your garages a kill room. your garage was a kill room. the table is the killed table. it s where you carved him up. i will show you that later but all the blood seeps underneath. the dude dna matching. when i say the show dexter, and you ve seen the show. it s all modeled after dexter. you know that. you kind of look like the guy. i look at that picture, i saw the one on your website, you even look the same. he kills people who needs killing. these guys who get off in court. the guys get off on technicality. he kills people who needs killing. the difference here is you killed a guy who really was no harm to society. there was no response at all. the next day clark and another detective took twitchell and drove him around edmonton hoping he would give up information. what was his demeanor like? defiant. assiduous show is where the body is. will show us where johnny is and drove right here. parked in front of his parents house. after that? mark twitchell was taken to a place that was the center of his life. here we are the killing garage. the dexter garage. look familiar? we parked on top of the sewer where you d dumped the body? jog your memory. clark even took twitchell to the back of the garage, the suspect a crime scene, hoping it would trigger some level of remorse. bring back any memories? want to tell us where the body is? get this over with? okay. back in the car, another detective heard of camera starts working on twitchell. you humiliate your victim. knocked him over the head. carve him up. chop him up. this pales in comparison. twitchell said nothing, at least not in person. he had said plenty in sk confessions, if he was the author. the document was incomplete, ending in a jumble of unrecoverable computer code. com hon, we are to the point where he dumped the body and we don t know the location. a detective did a slow, methodical search through the desktop computer found in twitchell s home, and it paid up. on the computer, once deleted but now found was yet another version of sk confessions with a view tantalizing paragraphs describing the location of the victim s remains. he talks about a specific sewer. how it s off an alley in a grassy area, and an old neighborhood. he talks about telephone poles in the alley. only certain neighborhoods here have telephone poles. the older ones. that s about the time bill clark became a man obsessed. we were pulling manhole covers up. i d be with a flashlight and looking down. we would call the city crews in. nothing. enough to make a person doubt his sanity. coming up. police were about to get some help. a man that open the case. they stopped right here. a year and a half later, where did you find the body? 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after 1.5 years, call from the city jail, and meet wanted to talk to detectives. his name, mark twitchell. he handed over a print out of this google map. at the bottom of the page there was a handwritten note. location of johnny altinger s remains. it was one block south of his parents house and that alley. this is the alley behind the home. it matched perfectly with the description from sk confessions, and in fact, this area had been searched by police a year and a half earlier. they pulled all these sewers all the covers? all the covers. they searched each one and they found nothing. this block, this area, and they sent cameras down the lines where they go down the lines and sneak them down and found nothing. where do they stop? about where you and i are standing. a year and a half later, where did you find the body? right down there. five telephone poles down half a block from where we stopped the search. this was johnny altinger s tomb. there is a piece of trash he probably thought it would get washed away. deteriorate to a point where it would be unidentifiable or no one would look. no one would ever look. why weeks before his murder trial was set to begin did mark twitchell give up johnny altinger s body? there must ve been a reason. because of all the publicity the case generated, the judge slapped a gag order on the press, the police, everybody. which is one the first day of the trial, the disclosure that altinger s body had been uncovered catches everyone by surprise. the reporter is written a book about the case. it doesn t get more explosive than that. it was new information no one had heard before. the trial only got more bizarre is the prosecution unveiled for the first time sk confessions. sitting in the courtroom became a journey deep into the wilderness of a mind of darkness. horde details were written down. no detail was not told within this document. it sounds just like it is fiction, like a script, but when you step back you realize it s a real person. it is a real man who has been murdered. was johnny altinger murder? twitchell admitted he dumped the remains down the storm drain, he never said he murdered him. never admitted he was the author of sk confessions. detectives knew they would need more than this document to get a conviction. the quietly build a case on csi basics. take the garage. this is what it looked like during the normal light of day. and this is a photo taken from the same angle minutes later once the floor was sprayed with luminal, the chemical that makes blood glow. huge spots in the garage would indicate pooling of blood. we found a piece of a human tooth in the garage. we found blood spatter along the walls and the garage door. hundreds of spots where repeating had taken place. also? csi investigators found this gang processing kit. hunters would take it to cut up a moose or whatever they have killed. this is what he used and every single tool in the kit had our victim s dna on it. in his car, police found other hard evidence. we find a knife and there. a knife with blood. visible blood? visible blood and it matches johnny altinger. he left it in the car? and the car is a gold mine . it absolutely blows the case wide open. there are yellow sticky notes on the console. one has a map drawn from the garage to johnny altinger s apartment. he kept everything. wrote everything down. after the presentation of the hard evidence, his coworkers were called to testify. one of the first was the actor who played the victim in house of cards. on his way to court that morning, he worried. what would happen if twitchell is acquitted? i feel he would probably kill me. chris was not alone. rene was unsettled too the day she testified but for another reason altogether. i didn t want to feel judge. because? i have dark thoughts and i shared them with a serial killer. johnny altinger s friend testified. there was nervousness, for sure. and a lot of sadness that day for me. all i can do is speak for john and the person he was. a nice man. definitely. if things had not turned out the way it did, he would ve found what he was looking for in life. it was the first time she had gotten a clear look at mark twitchell . he seemed like a normal, average person off the street. that is what disturbed me. twitchell remained stonefaced even when his wife took the stand. she is crying through all of this. mark twitchell s reaction was nearly blank. when this video was shown a chord during bill clark s testimony, twitchell became unraveled. he starts to cry and tears are streaming down his face. he is getting hysterical. the judge recognized and they took a break. when it comes back after the break, mark twitchell is no better. still very upset and he is crying. he actually faces detective clark and he starts talking to him. he said i am sorry for lying to you. this is extraordinary. you never have the accused talking to one of the primary investigators in the middle of their murder trial. this was far from the strangest moment of the trial. that came in the case for the defense when the attorney called it one witness. mark twitchell. the room was packed. i think everyone was on the edge of their seat wondering what does this guy going to say? twitchell finally had an audience. when he had been waiting 2.5 years to tell. what a story it was. he said you could blend fiction and reality so closely together that everyone would be fooled. fooled. 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multi-angle psychosis/psychosis label entertainment. sitting on the beach and there s a palm tree and a beach in front of you but when you pull back, it s not a beach but a picture of a beach. the attack on geo tetra was just a stunt. he allowed his parade to escape. and johnny altinger? that was week too just like the first one. but johnny didn t get the joke and furious there was no woman to greet him, tap twitchell with a pipe. he s got this knife on his belt and he tells the jury in his testimony that he puts his hand on the handle of the knife and just as johnny is about to come at him, his lifting the pipe over his head and mark twitchell sticks his hands out in front of him and the next thing he sees is the knife in johnny s stomach and blood is on his hands and he collapses on the floor and dies. the only inaccuracy is the initial attacker was johnny altinger and he , mark twitchell, disposed of the body and the sewer. police have their answer as to why twitchell gave up the body. it was the prologue of his elaborate tail. his defense is a brilliant idea on the surface. he actually found a way to describe an entire police investigation that incriminated him to get him off scott free. in ohio, rene was following all of this online. i watched the live blog they had, and i was screaming my head off at home. you liar. were you afraid the jury would believe him? oh, yeah. you are looking at for the one person that has that doubt. take the doubt back to the deliberation room. gilles tetreault was in course dash cart the day it was completed. i got to sit in the second row. she looked back, my mom, and saw me. i didn t know how she would feel. she turned around and looked at me. she smiled. she grabbed my hand. she said i m so happy you are still with us. that meant so much to me. what was that like? i didn t know how she would feel toward me. when she did that, it was almost another closing moment for me. not for others in the courtroom. apparently not for the jury s deliberations dragged on. the time rolled on. people are thinking maybe there is someone out there who actually does believe mark twitchell. mark twitchell was a masterful liar, maybe this ultimate fantasy would beguile the jury. then that final audience trooped back into the courtroom and gave him his last review. they found him guilty of the premeditated first-degree murder of johnny altinger . he was sentenced to life in prison. i have never been involved in an investigation in my whole career. you theorizes someone has died. there is no doubt we don t always get it right. here we knew exactly what happened to johnny. because he told you. he told us. ultimately, johnny lettuce to a . and twitchell kept writing about it. he would ve kept writing dash cart killing. i did mark twitchell murder johnny altinger? was it a thrill killing? or something even darker? i think he wanted to experience the feeling of killing and dismembering a body. i think down the road, he was going to produce a film about it . he would be a producer who would tell his cast and crew and actors how to do it and only to himself he would know he has lived it. i think that is what he wanted to do. an ohio, rene, twitchell s friend, arrived at the same disturbing theory. i think he did it for artistic reasons. artistic reasons? i think he wanted to see how someone died so he could make a better story. film it better. write about a better. in fact, mark twitchell himself offered an answer to all the people who wondered why. he was different, he wrote in his sk confessions. he simply could not feel anyone. and so, intentionally or not, he offered a dismal reason for murdering a perfect stranger. it was a single line at the end of that horror movie of his house of cards when the killer tells his wife the best way to succeed is to write what you know. this is this is someone at a park at 3:00 am. i am andrea kncanning and this is dateline. i can t believe she would meet someone at a park at 3:00 a.m. i think she knew the second she got in his car that something was wrong. a college student disappears. i d liketo
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[laughter] will: we begin with thousands of anti-israel protesters descending on the white house upset with the biden administration if over its response to the i don t think going israel-hamas if war. rachel: the destructive demonstrations coming while president biden continues his trip overseas. pete: chanley painter joins us with the details. reporter: good morning, team. the an estimated 30,000 anti-israel protesters converged upon the white house for hours blasting the biden administration s sport of the 8- months-long war in the gaza strip. take a listen. from the river to the sea from the river to the sea palestine will live forever! down, down, with occupation! reporter: along with the chants, many held signs accusing president biden of being on the wrong side of history as a, quote, genocide joe. some protesters burned american flags and ignited smoke bombs. the mass demonstration was organize9 by organized by answer coalition which unveiled a 32-mile- 2-mile-long banner which they revealed as the symbolic red line. security measures at 16000 pennsylvania avenue were tightened in anticipation of this planned demonstration, but it didn t stop the agitators from defacing nearby statue ises like this one of andrew jackson with phrases free gaza and boycott israel products and, of course, as you said, all of this happening while the president remains in france where he was honored at a state dinner last might with the french president. guys? will: thank you, chanley. i just find this increasingly this is on the day of a hostage rescue in israel. and now people are pointing out how many were killed in that rescue effort. i don t know if the number is 50 or 100, the numbers appropriate to rescue those 4 hostage aings. but in the video that stuck out to me, one lone park ranger was walking around, i believe it was the statue of andrew jackson. it had already been graffitied, there he is. he stands there in defiance, in protection. i just think that video speaks a lot about the current state of america. rachel: yeah. like, we need more park rangers around our statues? [laughter] pete: like we should defend, like this is why we don t have nice things? will: one solid man. pete: totally right. those people should all be a arrested, by the way, you can t just throw stuff at an official. will, you raised a great point. we re going to bring more details to individuals. it was late morning, middle of the day, civilian area and one of the the captors was gotten without any, without a fight, but the other one, the other building was about 100 feet away. the israelis encountered hamas and got in a big fire fight. it took that to get to the the other three to get them to the safety. we ve got some great guests to break down the details of this. israel was saying it s one of the biggest raids they ve ever done, and they did lose a3 2-year-old commander in the process. will: donald trump rallies in las vegas today. he leads that swing state, a day after he was in california, newport beach, where he raised $3333.5 33.5 million. he was greeted on the street by overwhelming crowds in now newport beach, california. orange county can be considered although not exactly alabama, it is a red part of california. and so today he turns his attention to nevada. ed this is the current state of the race in nevada. it s 5 points in favor of donald trump over joe biden. rachel: yeah. that s actually remarkable if you think about it. you know, a lot of those are working class service workers, and, you know, you are tourism is down. places are shutting up, shutting down because of the economy. and so these workers are feeling the pain of inflation, many of them losing their jobs. i think nevada has one of the highest bankruptcy rates as well as, you know, houses, people losing their houses. so there s a lot of, a lot of economic pain, and if i think donald trump is benefiting from that a because people, again, it wasn t very long ago when donald trump was in so people can remember what it was like under the trump economy. pete: yeah. nevada is a tricky political state. unions have rachel: yeah. pete: the tourism and hotel industry has huge pull are ther- rachel: a lot of hispanics. pete: indeed. we have some recent polling from fox news in informed nevada specifically about which candidate voters trust more on the issues, climate change and abortion it s biden, but when you get to the meat and potatoes of the border9 and the economy, foreign policy, trump is walloping it s interesting. trump took to truth social to talk about the price of insulin yesterday which some are suggesting is an attempt to take on that health care number which he hasn t been as strong the at, but he thinks he should be. rachel: yeah, it s interesting. you hook at those things, climate change and abortion. if those to are your issues, you re with the democrats. all the things that actually affect your life, the economy, immigration which, of course, is affecting resources and crime, all those issues donald trump is trouncing on. and so i think what it comes down to is you may be loyal to a party if you re a hispanic service worker, union worker, but in the end you re more loyal to your family, and that s what matters. will: it s trump +16 on the economy, +22 on immigration, biden +111 on the abortion 11 on the abortion. which of those issues motivate voters more? pete: correct. nevada has historically been so difficult for republicans to crack, so you re going to need a strong the get out the vote and ballot protection if act there to make it happen. will: coming up later today, we re going to have governor doug burgum of north dakota, senator tim scott, both of whom are former presidential candidates ask both of whom are pete: they re on the short, short list will: when it comes to being with vice president. pete: very interesting. now to a few additional headlines. a landslide in wyoming taking out a massive chunk of road at deon the pass in deton cutting off a critical link between idaho and wyoming. officials don t know how long it ll take to prepare the roadway and say the closest possible route goes more than 60 miles out of the way. you either take that road or you don t have another way to get there. that s no good for the folks around there. and a new report revealing chicago mayor brandon johnson spent $30,000 on personal grooming. the chicago sun times reported johnson was using campaign funds to pay for makeup and hair appointments. this was over the course of a year. johnson s campaign adviser saying in part, quote, he s using his own campaign funds to pay black and women-owned businesses a fair wage for their work in preparing the mayor and individuals associated with the campaign for public appearances. will: so he spent 30 grand on makeup, he gets an a get out of jail free card by saying black and women-owned businesses. i m going to plant this here and it s a get out of jail free car. rachel: there is a history of mayors of chicago remember when the last mayor when everyone else was locked in, she went to the hair salon, do you remember that? pete: yeah. rachel: they really care about their appearance. pete: and to the bell monostakes being ran in saratoga in new york at the can as the track undergoes renovations, the third swriewl of the triple crown. a little erratic but he s right there [inaudible] to win the belmont if stakes at saratoga! pete: this is the sixth year in a row where a different horse has won each of the triple crown races. parity in horse racing, as you might say. good for dornoch, and those are your headlines. will: i ve got another talking point for you we d love to get your preponderance on. a missouri missouri restaurant has a minimum age requirement for customers. pete: it s not 18? will: it s not p. it s 30 for women and 35 for men. rachel: wow. [laughter] will: the manager said it s just something for the older people to come do and have a happy hour, come get some good food and not have to worry about some of the young folks that bring some of that drama. rachel: what a what s that drama, is that drama drinking? like, they re bigger drinkers? pete: they re more raucous, one would assume. i would imagine the bliss caribbean restaurant has had some issues, maybe some intoxications, and it s not the 40-year-olds that are the rob. [laughter] the age differential track thes, you know, men take maybe a little bit longer will: calm down? pete: to get to maturity, yeah. i don t recall what 32-year-old will was, but maybe if not that the well contained, you know? [laughter] don t let him9 into the caribbean restaurant. but i would let 229 30-year-old rachel rachel: i was married and had a kid at that point. but, you know, a lot of times you see restaurants saying we done want kids. i actually saw a sign in new york city that said no children, dogs allowed which was very nyc. but this is an interesting new thing pete: wait will: i m okay with it. pete: if i am too too. will: if they want to make these rules, probably based on some past experience as you point out, it s their place. let em do it. pete: but is it ageism the other way? will: i don t care. i don t thinker but i don t care. pete: i m just throwing it out. there. if you re if 311-year-old rachel 31-year-old rachel rachel: that s an interesting question, but it if you re a cougar, this might not be the place for you. [laugher] will: anything can be you can be a 50-year-old cougar looking around at a 35-year-old guy pete: there s a lot of age possibilities. will: let s do another 10 minutes of breaking down cougars. rachel: do you know who the ultimate i cougar is? will: here we go. rachel: do you want to know? it s the first lady of france. for sure. am a i not wrong about that? pete: if i think you re wrong. rachel: okay. you think i m wrong? if. will: there s a big age difference. rachel: there s a massive age difference. will: let us know what you think, e-mail us at friends@foxnews.com. all right. four israeli hostages finally reunited with their families. the intel that led to the daring rescue next. if everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it s a great product. it s going to help a lot of patients. while i am a paid actor, and this is not a real company, there is no way to fake how upwork can help your business. upwork is half the cost of our old recruiter and they have top-tier talent and everything from pr to project management because this is how we work now. i told myself i was ok with my moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis symptoms. with my psoriatic arthritis symptoms. but just ok isn t ok. and i was done settling. if you still have symptoms after a tnf blocker like humira or enbrel, rinvoq is different and may help. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that can rapidly relieve joint pain, stiffness, and swelling in ra and psa. relieve fatigue for some. and stop joint damage. and in psa, can leave skin clear or almost clear. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal; cancers, including lymphoma and skin; heart attack, stroke, and gi tears occurred. people 50 and older with a heart disease risk factor have an increased risk of death. serious allergic reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. done settling? ask your rheumatologist for rinvoq. and take back what s yours. abbvie could help you save. craig here pays too much for verizon wireless. so he sublet half his real estate office. [ bird squawks loudly ] to a pet shop. meg s moving company uses t-mobile. so she scaled down her fleet to save money. and don s paying so much for at&t, he s been waiting to update his equipment! there s a smarter way to save. comcast business mobile. you could save up to 70% on your wireless bill. so you don t have to compromise. powering smarter savings. powering possibilities. pete: this morn if being four innocent israelis safely back home with their families after being kidnapped by brutal hamas terrorists and held hostage in gaza for eight months. the daring idf rescue carried out in a densely-populated refugee camp where the hostages were held in the homes of civilians. joining us now if, former irk df spokesperson if jonathan also a former lieutenant colonel in the idf. sir, thank you very much for being here. thank you for having me. pete: if for our audience, how did this go down? well, it went down after weeks of planning, clerking intelligence from various sources including doing preparations and operations in order to gatherer intelligence on the ground which they finally allowed israeli commandos, the elite of the elite israeli special forces to understand where they were being held and then to launch an operation that basically hit two locations, and the key thing was to do it simultaneously. the underlying assumption was that if israel hits one place where n if oa or the ore place where the three men were being held, if we don t do it simultaneously, the risks for the lives of the other location of the hostages being held in the other location were very high, so it had to be simultaneously. israeli troop troops were able to infiltrate pete: so this means they were wearing civilian they didn t come in military formation if. no p. they didn t advertise their advance ahead of time k if they surprised the hamas guards and the civilian zen tries that hamas seven tries that hamas has deployed. they got to the locations, burst in. unfortunately, an israeli special forces soldier was severely wounded. he later died of his wounds, which is a terrible loss for israel. he ises a real bona fide hero. the operation is now named after him. he was the leader of thedown terrorism unit. counterterrorism unit. and what the israeli troops did was go in simultaneously, get the hostages out. and the more difficult art part became actually the vehicle exfiltration. and this is a very density populated densely populated area, very small alleys, very lots and lots of people around at it. what basically happened was one of the vehicles got stuck. and when they got stuck, they came under tremendous fire. i m talking massive machine gun fire, rpg, rockets. it was a really intelligence situation. intense situation. that is also, i think, where most of the palestinian casualties that we see the palestinians touting on international immediate what media. most of them were in that that area where s reilly troops israeli troops came under a lot of fire with the hostages in the vehicle. and finally, thanks to an envelope of fire and the israeli soldiers fighting their way out, made their way towards the coast where two helicopters awaited. the first helicopter or took noa to safety, and the second with the three hostages out. pete: it s incredible. you mentioned weeks of planning, i even read they built a mock-up, that s how sophisticated this was yes. ask if that is the level of detail that they had to have in order to have think chance of success. pete: and that must be a reflection of serious realtime intelligence that they re does that mean they have, the israelis have somewhat of a sense where most of the hostages might be heldsome. sadly, i don t think it does. pete: really in. you know, this was made possible because hamas decided to jail these hostages and to have them aboveground in a civilian-populated area. and we ve seen this in the past. this isn t the first time that a hamas if jails israeli civilians in a civilian palestinian environment and where, by the way, the people who were guarding and forcing the israeli civilians to stay there were palestinian civilians. it s all a civilian with situationer here. many other israeli hostages are presumed to be held underground in specially-defended a hamas compounds with instructions for the hamas guards there that as soon as you hear think kind of idf activity, you execute israeli hostages. and that is, of course, the main if scenario that israel wants to prevent. there have been successful israeli raids in the past in rafah, about three months ago a israeli forces were able to go in unnoticed and save two israeli men, or civilians who were taken from the kibbutz. pete: what does this tell you about the strength of a hamas? because this is an area that s been cleared, but it s not pulley cleared, obviously right. pete: civilians willing to give a heads up to hamas if something looks suspicious. are they reconstituting in a place where you can t have israeli troops all the time? what we know they ve been doing, with hostageses, they ve been moving them around. these hostages were in different locations, and they tell israeli soldiers and intel officers after they were saved that we were moved around, and that is what hamas does, has been doing with the oh hostages as well, to make it as a difficult as possible for israel to actually get in. they ve been shifting them around. pete: if move if around in civilian populations in civilian populations, in civilian houses, sometimes underground, sometimes aboveground with the full knowledge, complicity and in many cases active participation of gazan, palestinian civilians. that s a very important point because what hamas does by its strategy is constantly to muddle the line between what s military ask what s civilian. and they re dressed in civilian clothes pete: sure. and then they tout them as civilian casualties they get reported as such pete: to the international press. i want to get your comment because there were anti-israel protesters surrounding the white house. they defaced some monuments, they were calling out genocide joe chanting you re a sellout, pack your bags and get the hell out. smearing red paint on andrew jackson is. these protesters are really angry at joe biden s approach to what s going on. what s your take? so i ve been at protests like these around the world not only in the u.s. i ve seen them in scandinavia, this other parts of europe with, i ve seen them in the u.k. and here in the u.s. the common denominator that i see is a lot of hatred toward the west, a lot of anti-american sentiment. true, the jews and israels are front and center of most of the vicious rhetoric here and most of the hatred, but what i see is a bunch of people who do not respect american values, who do not respect western values and are very blood thirsty towards israel. what i m concerned is that more more of public domain is slowly but surely being conquered by this type of people, anarchists who have no respect for the past and who are, who top at nothing in order to get their messages across. pete: real quick, is israel given the ability to actually take out hamas? is america holding back israel from finishing the fight? i think that israel would likely want to fight harder and faster, and i think that israel should be doing that. and i think that it would be in the interest of israelis and palestinians to get the job done faster can is and quicker, to get the suffering done. and i think israel can and should be doing it. pete: if we shall see. jonathan, thank you for your time. thank you for having me. pete: great stuff. all right, an elderly pro-life activist sentenced to prison after demonstrating outside an abortion clinic. a former planned parenthood clinic director who is now pro-life joins us next with reaction. i would say that we re closer than the average mother daughter. hi mom! if i lost my mom. i can t think about that for too long. i was like, whoa, mom, i have this gene! kenzie s test and me being able to find out that i was brca positive was lifesaving. i ve seen her take her health into her own hands, for herself and for us. i m really proud of my mom. 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if vandalized it, spray painted abort god, all these violent, terrible things all over this pregnancy center, did significant damage to the pregnancy center, violated the face act. the same thing that these people aring being held account accountable for, got 2 years probation, no jail time, no prison time is and a $2,000 fine. okay? now, meanwhile, these people have been sitting in a federal prison if rachel: yeah. and are possibly receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars of fines. that shows that there is something political at may here, and this is an unequal balance of justice. rachel: yes. well, you know, there were abortion clinics in which there were molotov cocktails thrown into pro-high centers, i should say, by vein s revenge jane s revenge which is a domestic terrorist group. we don t know what s happened with that, i doubt they re going to get the same sentences that these, again, nonviolent people. they may have trespassed into there, but their nonviolent, many of them elderty elderly, if with health problems. i will also say, abby, when the pro-palestine protesters went into st. patrick s on the holiest of days, that is also a violation of and they disrupted the mass. that s a violation of the face act. nothing happened to them as a well. it s the two-tiered system that a you re talking about that i think has people up this arms and also, i mean, just throwing the books at these people. and i don t think it makes us hook good as a country when look good as a country when this is how we treat our humanitarian, human rights activists. well, lahr ifly the elderly. particularly the elderly. look, these people, a 75-year-old. woman, she s not going to harm anyone, okay? and even though these people did trespass, they re not harming anyone. heir trying to save the lives of our most innocent, okay? let s get a grip, okay? not that they re trying to harm anyone. these pro-palestinian protesters, they are harming people. i mean, let s get real. people aring being harmed during these protesters rachel: well, property s being damaged. we just had a segment on it a couple minutes ago. yes. rachel: but the point is i think this is a political issue. it s not just pro-life versus pro-choice, though that s clearly on the ballot. i think people are very concerned about these two tiers of justice, that joe biden is weaponizing the justice system and law enforcement against his political and ideological enemies. i don t think we can question that anymore if when we see this, the january 6th, the way the january 6th protesters were treated are versus, you know, the anti that and blm antifa and blm protesters. and, again, last word, quickly. any of us could be next. rachel: that s right. if you are against what this administration believes in, think of us could be next. rachel: that s right. it s not that it can happen to to you, it is happening to american citizens, not just donald trump. i respect what you say, there are better methods, but that still doesn t take away what s happened to these elderly people. thank you very much. caitlin clark bringing new excitement to women s basketball but that a same energy won t make it to paris. how the rookie sensation was reportedly snubbed from team usa. that s next. you ve got to keep your head up, ask if you can let your hair down call leaffilter today. and never clean out clogged gutters again. leaffilter s technology keeps debris out of your gutters for good. guaranteed. call 833.leaf.filter today, or visit leaffilter.com. 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[announcer] with clearer skin girls day out is a good day out. live in the moment. ask your doctor about otezla. rick: welcome back to fox & friends. a lot going on in weather today. big storms across the central plains but two big stories across f. we ve been so incredibly hot in florida, may was your warmest month ever. warmest may ever, and they broke records from orlando all the way down to key west and pretty much every place in between. it was your warmest may ever. incredibly warm temperatures, again, we re going to break all kinds of records and a pretty significant threat for some kind of heat illness. so heatstroke, watch for that, especially central parts of florida. this is all going to change, however, because we ve got some tropical moisture coming in. this is going to get in here by midweek, and a lot of florida s pretty dry. the heat has brought in drought conditions as well, is so some of this moisture is going to be welcome. but watch what s going to happen, some spots maybe get over 10 inches of rain. that will cool the temperatures down, which is going to be welcome, but it is going to be very, very wet. now, we are talking about tropical season, it s hurricane season right now. take a look at this. this right here is your average peak if temperature of the water out in the atlantic bay syringe and we are way above average already. right now we re not looking at a tropical system probably moving in towards florida, nonetheless, a lot of that tropical moisture s coming in, and that s why we re going to see this rain midweek with. will, over to you. will: wnba rook e key seven sensation caitlin clark reportedly being left off team usa s roster for the paris olympics. while team usa has not made an official announcement, sources say the athletic coach, cheryl reeve, is opting for experience as the team aims to bring home its eighth consecutive gold medal. here with his thoughts is dan dockage. good morning, dan. this good horning. will: at first blush, outrageous. and almost everyone who has seen this news has responded similarly, outrageous. so let s start with this. on the basketball court, on the merits, dan, is caitlin clark an olympian? well, i think so. but i m not going to lie to you, i don t know every woman in the if wnba. i mow this i know this, trout thing diana out there at a 41 careers old for her sixth gold medal doesn t do anything to grow the game, and all i ve heard for years is pay attention to us, love on us, and now you have a real opportunity. i m not going to lie and sit here and say, hey, look, i know that league. i didn t know anything about the league. i had a radio show, have a radio show in indy, and two summer ifs ago we did not say a word about the fever. will: right. so, sure, let s just go this route, everybody on that team deserves to be on that team. let s justs say that, i guess. and the ore thing, will, look, you, me, three retirees, my wife could win the gold medal against who they re playing. the next team is denmark, for crying out loud. i mean, grow the game. will: you, me ask and three retirees, we could win? it even rhymes. well, i m going to answer my own question to you, dan, as well. caitlin clark is top 5 in assists, top 5 in scoring, or top 10 in scoring. the point is she s not a charity case. ing no. will: she s not a mascot. she is absolutely good enough to be on this olympic team, and then comes the issue i of why would you leave her off? now, we ve heard for years, dan, well, we should be making what the men make, or we should be flying first class, or we should be getting more attention, you should market us. and here is the women s basketball world choosing to reject the attention that a is finally coming hair way by rejecting caitlin clark are. well, they had a great opportunity here because there is no basketball player i don t care about luca or jaylen brown or whoever s playing in the nba a final, there s no bigger draw right now in the world. i would argue in the world than caitlin clark. so here s this opportunity. look, let s be honest, most people didn t even know they had women s basketball in the summer olympics. now you have a chance to do this, and you don t take it. so, here, here s what i m saying, everything about caitlin clark s success was about privilege whether it was white privilege, her being a straight, white girl. well, it stands to reason to ask, wait a second here, you know, this coach here is not a straight white girl. she s married or or to a woman. so is there something about caitlin charkh in the swellous city, the insecurity that kept her off the team? if you re going to say, well, all of this that she is given is because of this privilege, then it s reasonable to ask, is the insecurity, is being straight, white girl not allowing her to be on this team? i don t think it did, i honestly don t. but people are asking it, and i think rightfully so. but what a missed opportunity. they could have had more eyeballs on women s basketball which would have equated to going back to your season and finishing up even stronger. but now it s just same old-same old, no one s going to pay attention will: right. and that s a missed opportunity and a really dumb missed opportunity. will: i think you re exact ily right. all of those questions are very legitimate. what is the pettiness, the jealousy, what is the reason for the continued slights of caitlin clark, and then we just can t hear about it anymore. we can t hear about all of the need for equality, the need for better treatment. you can t hear about it when you reject your biggest moneymaker. he wassen gone from possibly a top 33 storyline in the olympics to nonexistent. top3. no one will care about women s olympic basketball. dan, we will watch don t at me, thanks so much for getting up early. thanks, my friend. will: rachel, over to you. rachel: sounds racist to me. all right, right now polls are open in 20 european countries as voters decide the e.u. s next parliament. experts say frustration among europe s farmers over climate policies could affect several races across the continent. one retired professor saying the e.u. has been forcing farmers to be quite to be, quote with, part ecologist, part nature conservationist. election results are expected as soon as tomorrow. if. three people climbing a aboard virgin galactic s unity spacecraft yesterday launching into space and landing safely back on earth in just over an hour worth of time. the trip marking virgin galactic s second successful space flight. the company is planning the launch its delta class of commercial spaceships that are capable of flying eight missions per month within the next two years. right now a seat costs you just about $450,000. the third annual hang eight dog surfing competition taking over flagler beach, florida, on saturday. the event, which raises min money for a handful of dog-related nonprofits, drawing its largest crowd to date. two dozen local dog-themed businesses taking part in the event which also hosted, of course, a costume contest. those are your cutest headlines. all right. celebrating the stars and stripes. it s nationalling flag week, is we re national flag week, and we re making the perfect american flag next. well done, viv. you got the presents, the balloons and the raptor cake. now, how about something to put a smile on your face? 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[laughter] if? yeah, it is. ask it s got printed [inaudible] that s the new printed foam so we can do patriotic foam pete: will, you got the cash. what else is in there? will: i got the cash. 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have you ever asked him why he did this? -oh, he doesn t know. -he doesn t know? he has no idea? i mean, there s no introspection, no psychoanalysis about, i did this because i wanted to ? -he doesn t wanna know. -yeah. yeah, there are people i m not gonna think about why i did this or why i didn t do this. you know, they re not introspective. i m not saying that that makes them better or worse. it s just, he doesn t wanna know any of that stuff. and the truth is that that s what the people loved about eliot spitzer. no second-guessing, no debate, on a crusade, charging ahead to systemic change, steamrolling enemies, cutting red tape in his path. his accomplishments were were tangible and exceedingly rare, which makes it hard not to mourn what we may have lost with the downfall of the sheriff of wall street. but it was his zealous belief in his own righteousness that made eliot spitzer s self-destruction inevitable, and that might be why this story s so chilling. former president trump was a steamroller in the white house, and it landed an insurrection on the steps of the capitol. if we can t shake our addiction to strongmen, to those utterly convinced of their own greatness, there will be many more like spitzer in positions of power posing even bigger threats to our fragile democracy crusaders wanting their portraits on the walls of history. every governor of new york has the chance to be immortalized in a painting that hangs in the new york state capitol, a self-directed monument to his or her own illustrious legacy. all of them are there all but two. the first served in the early 19th century and left no likenesses behind. the second.is eliot spitzer. there was testimony from a haley bind biden. she s her name is haley biden because she was married to hunter biden s brother sadly died. beau biden and then and then hunter went out with her. so she s the ex ex-girlfriend and the widow and i know she just she testified that when she was with hunter, he got her into crack and she is ashamed and embarrassed about that part of her life really, you you bang your dead husband s brother. and the part you re embarrassed about is the crack she said she found hunter s gun at one point, she knew she couldn t have it, so she took it and you throw it away, like in the supermarket dumpster. perfect play so when hunter found out, you throw away his gun, he was very angry, called are insane. he called are stupid. he said, what do you want? crack. and if you are, may i have sat die? we all saw the stuff from hunter biden s laptop, right? i mean, why they did a reality show about hunter biden be called naked and afraid of running out of crack and it s just and it s just bad optics for the president. the jury is looking at sex tapes of hunter biden and the rest of his are worrying of his father couldn t walk or wreck well actually, job was doing the de d-day thing. you saw that yesterday did very well. i thought he did very well. he was over there commemorating the an anniversary of d-day. and over here in america, you know what they did? nine congressman. oh, gosh nine congressmen dressed up as military people world war two vintage stuff and jumped out of a world war ii vintage plane to commemorate d-day okay sadly, they were wearing parachutes george santos said, you know, when i do dress up, you make a whole thing out. it wow, yes, it s it s pride month in the spirit. in the spirit of fraught pride month story five drag queens in philadelphia. did a reading children s books, reading as they do, made the guinness book of world records for the fastest way to get trump re-elected not not that there aren t still big, it s in this country to just see this, the head of the colorado, this the head of the colorado republican parties sent out an email missives saying calling gay people godless groomer which in california is not even an insult. i kept my hair cut at a place called dogmas the first job no holds barred democratic senator from the great state of pennsylvania, john fetterman welcome welcome back to this thursday non are to be here. i m i m i m a fan boy. so it s the right track. got gi have been badgering my staff for a long time now to get you on this show and i ll tell you why i ve been bad during them, i guess then they badgered you lead i m glad it worked in new here because i when i see you, especially the last couple of years you speak so freely, you speak like politician two, i get on this show, who aren t in politics anymore, the ones who are out of office when they can be honest. and that s the way you speak now and it s a beautiful thing this is true you speak for a lot of democrats that are afraid to say a lot of that stuff. yeah. i mean, it s a letter released for a lot of democrats to be able to be like, thank god, someone s actually platforming that like that. no, i think we re very much on the same page, but it s very rare. i mean, i don t have to worry about being reelected except by the but in i think even more brave for you to do it. the question i want, i m interested in asking you is, is this connected to some of your health issues? i mean, when you ve gone through it, you have both physical and mental health issues? yeah. does it give you a freedom, like, what can you know absolutely. there s like a line from the first batman, joker, he s like, now i ve already been dead once already. it s overrating. and that s that s not reckless. that s just that s really just freeing. it s his freeing in a way. and i just think after being all of that, i just really be able to say the things that i have to really believe in and not be afraid of if there s any kind of blowback what about. mental health in america writ large? what do we, what is the prescription for this? because we re going to talk about it on the show degree tonight. it s certainly a big issue in this country and we have, i think 50,000 suicides in the last excellently, this is an astounding number. i think what what are your thoughts on this? no, it s well i actually i thought after i signed myself into walter reed to get help with depression, it s not it s not really a big political winner to talk about oppression, right then when i started to have the conversation, i realized that if i had to be really honest, i have to talk about self-harm harming myself because, you pointed at the 50,000 americans took their lives and i started to talk about that and saying, yeah, i ve been in that kind of a place and i now tell people like i m promise you, begin, you please just don t don t harm yourself. stay in the game. and now i m in contacted by people on the regular saying, hey, thanks to hearing this, i got help or even saved my life and i never thought that that would resonate and that s why i decided to have that conversation because i was lucky. i got help and got better. and now i want to be the kind of guy that can say something thing that could have helped someone like me that it was in that situation let s talk a little politics here, because that is your game. pennsylvania is going to be one of they say probably it could be come down to three states. pennsylvania will definitely be one. well, i ve always said that pennsylvania picks the president and there really is no legitimate path. the president, if he doesn t win. and i really do believe he will win actually, because trump was able to flip pennsylvania and that helped deliver his first victory. but joe biden carried in 2020 because you have, he has a really strong connection. there to pennsylvania and i do believe he will again, but it s gonna be very close. and that s the same conversation i ve been having with pennsylvania that it s going to be very close because trump has a strong connection and pennsylvania and it s going to be very competitive. and all of that, and i ve also been saying that i don t think that whole trial is going to be anything meaningful with people have already decided like, hey, that s my guy. i will never understand by somebody would say, yeah, i love that. i went more four years of that. but i do believe joe biden s going to carry pennsylvania and he s going to win as he is not yet officially the nominee of the democratic party. is he really the best one for them to put forward? joe biden? yeah. yeah yeah. he s actually the only american that s ever beat trump in an election and i do honestly believe that he s actually the only democrat that could win. and let me just say this. let me just say this another that might be provocative but the last time there was like a hot governor that with $200 million. thought that he was going to be trump. and then trump threw him into width shipper and he finished third and his own state and florida. and again, it to santa yeah. yeah, it s like trump is pretty tough and that s what the republicans want and i can t imagine why he still appealing right now, but trump has a very, and i do believe joe biden has that ability to win and we have a great, we have a great bench. but i think it s a very distinct kind of situation right now. i m surprised at that, but i ll move on i m not on the same page there, but okay. i mean, it s probably going to be joe biden and i ll vote for him. but you mentioned desantis this was very curious to meet desantis wants to ban fake meat in florida you agreed with them? i don t i don t get this willy. i think it s no so much about making it illegal, but it s also just talking about i really wanted to stand with i wanted to stand with american farmers and ranchers and those kinds of a thing. and i don t believe that it s helpful and that s the direction that i d like to move in that. but if somebody wants to consume that, that that s okay. but i think there s gonna be states that are going to decide. i don t want to ban this, or i really want to invent and create that kinds of a product in their state. i think i wouldn t need it either. quite frankly, but i wouldn t ban it. i mean, that s what desantis ones to do. so you can t get it. if i thought that was the freedom party, i felt the freedom country. if people want to have fake meat or fake anything, fake, fake anything los angeles that s sloppy there, but but i don t i don t think that s really going to solve anything other than i don t i don t get why anybody that would appeal to anybody. okay. but you are you ve been very out front on legalizing. we d oh, yeah, of course. i heard that, you to john, that s just a character i play until never smoked, enjoyed my life i heard you say or reddit? maybe it was a tweet. i don t know what it was. you said. i m not a progressive, i m a democrat. what does that mean? how how do you, what does that distinction? because i m always i don t think i ve used the word progressive. i think i ve said woke. i think there s a big difference between woke and i know that word triggers a lot of people because it had a great beginning as a meeting but words migrate and it went to something else. i think there s a big difference between an old school liberal and a wolf person. you say progressive democrat. how do you describe this? yeah. no, i agree it s like i ve just say i ve been saying that for years actually, i said that i didn t leave the label. it left me on that. right. and that really after happened now, on october 7, i was really knew that that whole progressive stack would be blasted apart and they re not gonna be any kind of way how the democrats are going to be able to reply to that kind of respond to that kind of and i really decided early on that i believe that what s going to be the right side with israel throughout all of that? and i knew that would be democrats would continue to peel away and walk away from its, from standing with israel on that. but that s where i decided after how do you explain that? if you can that the people who considered themselves the most liberal have abandon israel, which was always a liberal darling for the people who a terrorist organization, the people who outwardly say they want a genocide, who outwardly or the one side of this, who was against the two-state solution. so how they wound up with them? why do you think that is? and will this split the democratic party? well, it does because it, there s an appeal there and i think e. to talk about that, last week, you really hit with the gender or apartheid. yes, i m talking about a lot of these issues and some of the most progressive and left a parts of the democratic party or are standing for the side that have kinds of organizations like hamas or these kind of nations that there are no rights for women. and they certainly don t embrace the lgbtq fans of lifestyle and even in philadelphia, the queers for palestine blocked the pride for aid in philadelphia. and i never saw that on the bingo card, but really all right, well, it may seem lonely out there sometimes when you re brave, like you are, but you have a lot of fans. fans here, and then you have a lot of fans all over the country. when i told people you were coming on, a lot of them were really excited that you re here, but they all had one question. didn t they wanted me to ask you, which is what is the deal with the wardrobe please ask last year i noticed you had a great joke. you re really now, if you put a picture of b in your life, he dresses like a guy that the airline lost his luggage and i know address like a slob. i m not making a statement or anything. but it s like i m in the comfort. yeah. it s just comfort and i m kind of it s like i don t have to iron and it s like it it s really good. i can t, you know, it s kinda hard to find suits and all those things and i put i never understood why anybody thought that, why that was interesting, but but what s really crazy is just like it was more controversial. and i want to be clear. i wasn t behind the train changing the dress code or anything. i really wasn t. but more people were seemed more concerned about me me could wearing a hoodie on the floor as opposed to we have senators taking bribes and i m still a freshman you seem like we re in a really good place well, i m sitting sitting across having a near-death experience and going through that kind of a blowtorch of $100 million. in an attack acts and all of the kinds of things to emerge on the side where i m grateful to be here, both right. with you and back with my kids and my family and everything. and i just decided i really want to be the kind of voice that s consistent and has a moral clarity on issues that may not be controversial for democrats and but i m not sure why anya, that s controversial for democrats, whether it s about israel or the border, or people just want a these days, john, everything everything is controversial to everybody. yeah. but you keep doing what you re doing i thank you hey, mom how many should i decorated have ran lu that s a really tough call. who are you? 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so this is the week where we celebrated the greatest generation saving democracy. so we could learn about hunter biden s smoking crack weekend and nutshell so i feel like it s one of those stories were both sides have a lot of wrong in their handling. a member at the beginning when the laptop came mount the left-wing media just would not even admit it was a thing, right? it just had to be a hoax or it had to be russian this information. it just didn t exist. they wouldn t write about it that was wrong. and the right is wrong to pretend it means something except possibly about joe biden s parenting the question i want to ask because i know your book is about it and you ve written about parenting. okay. why do all the political families have this near dwell up family it isn t just because they re famous. we went into every family that have that have a billy carter are roger clinton george bush himself was the ne er-do-wells the beginning of time we ve known that children basically need three things and these are essential. they need parental authority, they need to hear no, they need independence, and they need loving community and kids with high-profile families often get none of those. no one s willing to tell them no they never get independence because i don t want anyone to let make the big guy look bad and they don t have loving community. they re raising a political battlefield. and unfortunately too many of american kids today also don t have those. you, the way you describe it, you suddenly everybody s from a prominent family because i read in your book the kids go off to college and they ve never heard the word no, that s right or the word wait, that s right. well, it s today are under a microscope. they re under a microscope. they re literally because of the protection, of course, social media and whatnot, but also because their parents are so afraid of traumatizing them, they ve been told by mental health experts that say hey, no, punishing can be traumatizing. so they don t exert their own authority. so these kids are basically we have a generation being raised as shrinks kids and they re miserable. there s a link with your d-day tie-in, which is that we understood that generation and others, but especially that one to have a sense of stoicism right? like you re gonna go through some bad stuff. it s going you re going to fail. there s gonna be unfair things that happened to you. the question is, what are you going to do that the father of a 15-year-old and a nine-year-old, they re not teaching lot of stoicism and the brooklyn public school system last time i checked, it s at some point she starts to use as an excuse to get out of chores like that s not my journey i m not going to holding a laundry. so i mean, at least they re making some fun out of it. but there is something to that and there s also, i think when you think about the greatest generation, they probably couldn t use a little bit more therapy than they actually, yes. there s a happy medium, but i mean, you mentioned d-day i couldn t help think of it because i was reading the new york times says, among college students, ptsd among adolescents is surging. ptsd, that fact that we have so my father was in that he wasn t on omaha beach, but he was in that campaign in france ptsd. but then allow kids to think they have ptsd that s right. they don t have ptsd raised gently and brentwood don t have ptsd combat vets sometimes do have ptsd and they always treatment when they have it. it is real, but that s not what kids at universities have. what they have is what i call in my book bad therapy. i d they have a kind of emotional hypochondria. they have focused so so much on their own bad feelings that they magnified these feelings. they make them in an organizing principle of their lives and then they have trouble escaping them. okay, so here s my question. we had a meat to reckoning about zach s 2017. we had a racial reckoning in 2020. i feel like there s a parenting reckoning coming what a roll back pushback on gentle parenting. i think that people are realizing that this kind of stuff has raised a lot of up kids rather six. maybe it s a mere book 49 49.5%. so let s just say half of adolescents at some point have a mental health disorder die. so half of the kids in the country are diagnosable okay. either they really are that up or we re over diagnosing. that s right. it s the latter. we are way over diagnosing exam. this generation has had more mental health intervention in schools, more mental health treatment, 40% of them been in therapy. they ve had therapeutic parenting and it s making them worse. these kids don t need therapy, they need less therapy. they need to be told, i love you. you live. now, get out of my house and have an adventure generations, let s say 15 to 22, they got banged up during covid pretty bad. and the more you were in places where schools and society was locked down, the more banged up you got. and also that s tied up with social, media and kind of knew what you re doing on your phone all the time. the stuff that john height talks about. so i think there is a legitimate mental health thing going on with teenagers and especially teenage girls in this country. the question is, are we teaching them to get out of it and also to have fun and to take some kind of initiative in their lives, or are we encouraging? thank them to think of themselves as victims? and i hope it s not the latter because you re not going to get much pasture 18th birthday, walking around and saying that it s somebody else s who still this is so obvious. and we all agree who still defending this? i think the trauma industry is they basically have brought in i mean, that s what we have. we convinced a generation that any distress is trauma. it s permanent psychopathology. now you have a disability and you have to live with that forever. and these kids are behaving like mental patients, right right. i mean and. their medicated than like that to me is where it really goes off the rails when you start picking a lot of them are on whatever the psychiatric drugs they put them on. and, you know, when i think about the two big ones that i see always talking about better now pathologized, shyness which is like social anxiety disorder. if you pathologize it and depression. i mean, that s just being bummed out my whole adolescence, my whole childhood through past college was about those two things i was just todd todd both of those things and drugging me would not have helped. that s right i discovered pot when i was 19. that drug helps organic yeah. okay. so i read about sel and i froze everybody who has kids knows what this is. this, explain this is social, emotional learning, like this takes front and center in. this explains a lot to me, wondering why they re so stupid because this is the priority above learning. is that right? that s right. and what is social? i mean, obviously it sounds like what it is. well, purportedly, it s supposed to teach kids things like emotional regulation, which we want them to have of course. but in fact how do you teach kids how to handle that emotions, right? because we re not worried about them having too much joy. we re worried about them having too much sadness, regret, bad feelings. so it necessarily always goes negative. it becomes a kind of group therapy. therapy, and it forces kids to ruminate, to pathologically focus on their bad feelings on their pain. and those are the number one symptoms of depression. and it s interesting 70% of very liberal liberal, the students, they say, this is when the american enterprise institute, so they re a little right leaning reported feeling anxious, 52% of conservatives but it does seem like the liberals are more in their own head and our more suffering from this is that, is that right? and why i have seen that statistic luck. the reason that i think so, that might be it s because those are the parents in general who are giving their kids more therapy. they re highly educated and they re more anxious because are highly educated, they re more anxious themselves. they are pushing their anxiety onto their kids. and we know you can communicate anxiety. p parents need to be tougher for their kids. they need to set an example here and they need to stop obsessing over kids happiness and start worrying about making kids strong also involved in the other book you wrote your famous one that was banned, right? your book irreversible damage was about gender reassignment, i think is the proper term we call it. well, now we have the cast review from england which said you must feel somewhat vindicated by this, because america is now an outlier country. this scandinavian countries that were doing in england that was doing it. they ve all pulled back to cast report says that the evidence supporting the use of puberty-blocking drugs and other hormonal medications and adolescents was remarkably week why why is america so behind? why, why are we usually when we look at those countries, you go, these are what the liberal as they re doing. so we re just going to know, we re we re alone on this. yeah, we are. i mean, i think two reasons england had national centralized health care. so they got into this faster and they also were able to shut it down faster and that because ours is our health care is obviously decentralized. it s harder to shut bad medicine down in this country, but there s something else that i have to say. they had something really special in england. they had jk rowling and she helped gender-critical feminist pry away from the progressive left on this issue and stand up for the bodily integrity of girls and stand up for the integrity of medicine elements in the professional practice. it s worth pointing out to the extent that your audience might not, that abigail is book was targeted by people who worked for the aclu? yes. saying that, oh, it d be the highest thing to do, correct. to block the distribution of this book, it speaks to a kind of aggressive, illiberal conformity that takes place, not just on this issue, but other issues. having to do with covid and i think it s kind a new thing, glass ten years, especially those has a semi d ranging moment where people who are involved in journalism or academia, or whatever we ll just say, we ve created a new taboo. and you re on the wrong side of the taboo we must attack this person. we must attack jesse singal, other people who ve been working in this, and yes, it hurts their careers, but we don t necessarily have to cry for them for you. she s on bill maher, so she s doing okay. but it hurts them. that s what people don t get when you block off the information that s coming in. particularly on a contested subject particularly that s affecting kids and life and death situations. and you re blocking off the information. so i enforcing a taboo, you are hurting yourself. one thing to critique, it s another thing to say, no one should be able to do even look at this to even read it as if you were some sort of crazy person. again, i ll just say one more thing, you know, in the, you know, three or four years it took between the time i wrote my last book to talk about the same risks that are in the cas report two, until they mainstream media worked up the backbone to actually do some reporting tens of thousands of american children were harmed. and i don t think you re saying i certainly wouldn t be the one saying that there aren t trans folks who who we do need some transition exenatide i think you were just saying was there s no guardrails on this and these are children. these are children not about the bodies of whatever they want with their body as long as they don t using children as cannon fodder in their culture wars is what it looked like to me. the most anticipated moment of this election. and the stakes couldn t be higher. the president and the former president s one stage moderated by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debate thursday, june 27th, nine lives and cnn and streaming on max michelin, innovate on the road and far beyond with errorless tire s designed exploring new frontiers michelin motion for life apartments.com. let s any landlord find qualified renters and signed leases and polite payments from any place even here. and where s here? 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yes. you can. toward the cell block we re in 1980, 33 inmates were killed in one of the worst prison riots in history. so bring the kids and don t forget that selfie and the gas chamber here in california, the prison had dublin made headlines because it s where they sent laurie laughlin after her college cheating scandal. but allows its closing why because the rape club that the guards had going was so impervious and ingrained, it was easier just to shutter the whole place and prison in america is a place that forces the people in. it, forces them to become racists. if you re black, you re with the brothers. if you re white, you have to join the arians, get heads. there s no oh, leave me out of it. i like everybody let s just all go get co-exist tattoos on our knuckles what kind of society is cool with all this? we call them correctional facilities, but that s like calling the nfl brain development program i m not saying that it s not okay to lock people up. it is, of course it is. did he does it all the time but it s not okay to deliberately violate the eighth amendment s prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment. fake tough guys think, hey, if prisons bet enough, it will incentivize people to stay at a treble after they get out, but they re wrong. it actually does the opposite when a year of release around 40% of prisoners or rearrested within ten years. it s 82% i don t think they want back in because they missed the toilet wine if we re trying to make inmates into criminals for life, it s working because prison is like linkedin for low-lifes you can t beat the networking. it s a taxpayer funded criminal mentorship program. but here s the thing. around 95% of all inmates eventually do get out. so the question becomes who do we want returning to society? some hapless broke du goes in for selling drugs or passing a bad check, and a few years later it comes out as sexual predator with white power written on his neck. and we also to just accept that like, well, that s how prison works. you go embed and you come out worse. if you re lucky when you get out, we ll let you work the tilta world, the carnival or date britney spears it almost makes stealing catalytic converters not worth it. but it doesn t have to be this way. we could change. there are even places in the world that offer a model as to what that would look like. norway s recidivism rate is 20% prisoners, their du, yoga, they learn a trade, is a playground for the kids when they visit and the guards aren t maniacs who failed the police psych exam and it s a place that and a place that looks less like our prisons and more like what you d find on an american college campus only of course, with bless antisemitism of course the, big difference is that unlike here scandinavian countries don t have private for profit prisons. that s what we have here. and corporations, it turns out, don t run prisons to improve society. they run them to make money which means putting more people in the system. the more prisoners, the more profit. this is why they lobby congress for three strikes, rules, and keeping weed illegal. they don t want them rehabilitated they want return customers. all right, that s our show. and if you enjoyed this editorial this june 21st, here s what 22nd at the end 22nd 26 and 27. thank you. matt welch hi i m, now, going to. watch ver time on youtube michelin innovates on the road and far beyond by manufacturing acetic leg belt should allow for greater flexibility of movement michelin motion for life. you have chronic kidney disease. you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with bars sega because their places like to be for segal can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections and low blood sugar are rare life-threatening bacteria we will infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking four sika and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of disinfection and allergic reaction or ketoacidosis brynn real quality that starts in our factory to real performance in your backyard. steel tools, or as tough and dependable as the people who use them this fathers de, give him the gift that s built for dad right now save $50 on select ak system battery tool sets real still first we did the impossible then you age so many of the impossible that we completely ran out and now they re the cook is back at subway compared with other choose one verb recto chu protects from fleas and ticks for 12 weeks nearly three times longer. use with caution in dogs with a history of seizures or neurological disorder protection that last longer. bravo rafat. bravo with a freestyle libre three system. know your glucose levels
happen. like what i i would never go back, but i think what i m trying to say is i just miss something i never had. what she has instead is a cause to help those kids she once knew. and the others coming after them and to forgive herself as well. that s all for this edition of dateline. i m craig melvin. thank you for watching. ank you i m andrea canning, and this is dateline. vehe had gone off the road into this creek bed. they tetold me this vehicle had gone off the road intohis creek bed. she s got severe injuries to her head. little did you know the mystery that was about to unfold. i go into the living room and i see blood all over the place. i went into the bathroom there is more blood. the whole time we were thinking it was a car wreck. the rumor mill is in overdrive. there was gossiped that there was an affair. this was tearing her apart. you really cannot make this up. there is no other way to describe a human being but satan s bond. spawn. hello and welcome to dateline. when judy met jamie baldwin he swept her off her feet and then jamie said judy suffered not one but two accidents in the same night and she was gone. detective believed the grieving husband, but her family launched their own investigation. the question, was this the handiwork of a clever killer? here is the black box. andrea canning: the slow-moving water, chilled by the december air, trickled over her lifeless body. the slow moving water the slow moving water chilled trickled over her lifeless body. she was one of my biggest supporters. she is not here anymore. how this wife, mother and grandmother what end up in this creek will consume her family for years. i am not giving up until i find out what happened. what h andrea canning: terry tinker, the coroner for chester do you get a lot of car crashes? we do. terry tinker, the corner have been called here to the site of a fatal traffic accidents. it was right before midnight on december 14, 2016. a husband and wife were in their jeep when it ran off the road, ending up down the bottom. i saw that lady and i knew she was, jamie baldwin. my friend. terry had known judy orr- baldwin most of his life. that must ve been such a shock to the system to see? it was. a longtime friend like in the creek. the corner noticed some unusual markings. deep and dark blackened circles around her eyes. i am seeing a lot of bulging eyes, is what a lot of people call recognize. how do you get those? from probably brain injury. driving the jeep was judy s husband jamie. he suffered minor injuries. jamie told first responders they were traveling down the historic role when he swerved to avoid hitting and truck. is out of control jeep careened and crashed into the creek. he said he was knocked out and when he came to judy s led body was in the creek a few feet away. he called 911. ay. he called 911. andrea canning: jamie had already been taken away in an ambulance, when detective chris reynolds, with the chester county sheriff s office, jamie had already been taken away in an ambulance when detective chris reynolds arrived on the scene. i took my flashlight and i saw and cloth with blood on it. there was one on the seat. the detective saw the jeep store open judy apparently had been ejected. what is the first incident instinct? an accident. the same night judy s two sons is not might not phone calls. the roman told their mom had been in a car crash and they needed to get to the hospital right away. i was the first one there. i ran to the emergency side like where is judy orr-baldwin ? they were like we don t have a judy baldwin. josh found his stepdad in a hospital room. i said with my mom? they were like she didn t make it. i said what do you mean? he said she s dead. chris arrived shortly after and got the terrible news. he asked his stepdad what happened. all they said was i wish it would ve been me. it felt like and dream. i thought i cannot believe we are going through this again. because her dad died? tragically. their dad died in a motorcycle accident 12 years earlier. it seems unbelievable to not lose their mom in a crash. here you are having to say goodbye to your other parent, your mom. that is really a hard thing to do to lose both parents and such a young age. i know nothing is perfect. but we didn t have any problems. we were all happy. our parents are gone. around 6:30 that morning judy s ,23 lease was sound asleep when her phone rang. her dad gave her the tragic news that her aunt, known as little judy because she was just 4 11 have been killed. he said little judy is dead. i said what are you talking about? i started screaming and crying. i woke up everybody in the house. when judy s nephew heard the news he realized his aunt for love yorky was all alone. early in the morning he headed over to judy s house. the whole time and thinking i m just going to get the dog. rodney wright wasn t prepared for what he saw. it was a shock. i go into the living room and i see blood all over the place. blood on the floor. i went into the bathroom there was more. the whole time we are thinking it was a car wreck. what happened? a family horrified, mystified and looking for answers. investigators are about to ask questions of the one person who knows just what happened that evening. coming up, what jamie says happened to judy. what jamie ss happened to judy. that baffled the coroner andrea canning: so this was going to be the key area terry tinker: this was the andrea canning: in the autopsy. key thing right there. andrea canning: when dateline. continues. and the clue that baffled the corner. so this was going to be the key area in the autopsy? 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this is our dmvip. vending machine charcuterie? for a great low rate, go with the general. for a great low rate, just a few hours after judy orr baldwin was found dead at the scene of a car crash, her nephew was stunned to find blood in her house chest and a few hours after judy orr-baldwin was found dead at the scene of a car crash her nephew was stunned to find blood in her house, and a lot of it. he had no idea what was going on. it was so confusing. stuff just didn t add up. turns out judy s husband told investigators there have been two accidents that night. judy had taken a terrible fall at home, the reason for the blood. they were on their way to the hospital when they crashed. i was in complete shock. now judy s family, including her niece was grieving. she was a bright light in and darkroom. was judy and romantic? did she believe in true love? she did, just because she had experienced it. todd was her first husband who died in that motorcycle crash. after he passed she wanted to be loved like that again. she was lonely. she wanted somebody for sure. so judy s family was happy when she started dating jamie baldwin, a former police officer and not 11 officer. the couple had a whirlwind romance. after just eight months they married in 2012. how did you feel that your mom was with a former police officer? faith, protected, somebody that had her back. did they seem happy? extremely. her being happy, i am extremely happy. detective chris reynolds was looking into her death as part of a routine investigation. i knew ms. judy for a very long time. every since i was a child. everybody loved her. the detective had never met judy s husband, but wanted more details on what happened that night. about a week after her death he asked jamie to come down to the sheriff s office. why do you bring him in even though you believe this is an accident? i want to make sure i have everything covered. she was one of those people that as soon as your mentor you were a friend of her, loved her. she was just bigger than life. jamie said he had mostly recovered from his minor injuries. emotionally though he said he had a lot of healing to do. to andrea canning: jamie said the night judy died, he and his wife were decorating their christmas tree. he then, briefly stepped outside to put jamie seven i judy died he and his wife were decorating the christmas tree. he then briefly stepped outside to put some tools away in his shed. when i came back in, i don t know if she decided to fix something on the tree. i don t know. tree. i don t know. two stocking holders. brjamie said he assumed judy fell off the ladder and hit her head on the mantle. on the floor with two stocking holders, one of them were broken. were broken. e on her wound, but the bleeding didn t stop. jamie told the detective he grabbed a washcloth from the bathroom and put pressure on her wound, but the bleeding didn t stop. he thought judy needed stitches. needed stitches. was a few minutes from their house, he said the couple got into their jeep and started driving to a bigger although chester hospital was a few minutes from the house he said the couple got into their jeep and started driving to a bigger hospital 30 minutes away. minutes away. andrea canning: and that s when he said, they went flying down that embankment, ending up in the creek. jamie said the impact of the crash knocked him out. that is when he said they went flying down the embankment ending up in the creek. jamie said the impact of the crash knocked him out. he hit something. hit someth. i ll walk you back out the back door over here. andrea canning: after about an hour, the interview was finished. jamie s story seemed to match what the seasoned detective had seen for himself, like that bloody washcloth after about one hour the interview was finished. jamie stories seemed to match what the seasoned detective has seen, like the bloody washcloth in the jeep. and when he went to the house the night of the accident. i saw blood on the mantle of blood on the floor. i did see the ladder leaned toward the christmas tree at the time. does the blood look consistent with a possible fall? yes. if an accident as of right now. detective reynolds was continuing his investigation. the corner still trying to figure out what cost judy s death. he wanted to know more about a large wound on her forehand. there was no damage to her legs or to her arms. all of it was concentrated toward the head. this was the key thing right there. he concluded julie died from a skull fracture and those raccoon eyes were the result of a large amount of blood accumulated in her skull. the corner struggled to figure out what caused the fracture. i need to know what you think she fell against or what was said by mr. baldwin. all of the stuff has got to be added up. he had to determine if the fatal injury happened during all at her house or during the car accident. even though judy had two autopsies before she was buried, the corner could not reach and conclusion. her death certificate read pending investigation. police are not the only ones investigating. judy s family and friends have questions too. what they discover will cast doubt on jamie story. i am surprised i did it. i was in such shock. i knew in my heart something else had happened. jesse become suspicious and takes matters into her own hands. you decided to record the call? i.d. d. was the one in this family harboring a secret? an eye-popping story when dateline continues. dateline continues. it appeared judy orr baldwin had been involved in two accidents on the same night. it appeared judy emorr-baldw had been involved in two accidents on the same night. most people seem to agree, sadly it looks like judy was the victim of bad luck. one person, however, was not buying it, judy s niece. she thought what happened seemed suspicious. i had a very weird feeling in my stomach. although jamie had an explanation, it didn t make sense. why would you not go to chester hospital if she just bumped her head? and why did jamie take a dark rural back road when he could ve taken a much faster nearby highway. that was super odd to me. so jesse decided to take a bold step. she put her amateur detective on and call jamie. you decided to record the call? i did. what was telling you to record the call? i am not sure what told me. i am surprised i did it. i was in such shock, but i knew in my heart something else had happened. i wanted to hear what he has to say. she asked jamie how he got knocked out when the jeep crashed? jeep crashed? jesse was most concerned about her aunt s final moments. fina how would you describe his demeanor? i would simply say, he had zero remorse. he was talking just, how we re talking. how would you describe his demeanor? i was simply say he had zero remorse. he was talking just how we are talking. no emotion really. emotion rea. said, that s the good news yeah andrea canning: which seemed a little, like, the language was a little odd. one thing that struck me if he said that s the good news. it seemed the language was a little odd. it didn t make any sense to me either. it was an eerie feeling. why would you say that? jesse couldn t get the phone call out of her head. i replayed that recording so many times. are you expressing your concerns to judy s sons? i let them listen to the phone call and i said it s just not fitting right with me. after judy s sons darted to think about it they too had serious doubts. we are trying to figure out what really happened to our mom. sold one of judy s friends would tell the brothers more than they ever wanted to know. k black and judy were nearly inseparable and share their most personal secrets with each other. you said you were like sisters. we were. i miss her a lot. a whole lot. she and her husband consider themselves judy and jamie s best friends. the four belonged to the back of riker group called helping hands and harleys. they spent nearly every weekend with the couple. kay knew something almost no one else did. i knew his marriage wasn t like he was trying to make everyone else believe. jamie told others he had a strong and happy marriage. hap. andrea canning: kay says, a few months before her death, judy confided in her that her marriage was on the rocks. kay says a few months before her death judy confided to her that her marriage was on the rocks. she thought something was going on with jamie and another woman, a single mom who also happened to be the bike club treasurer. she started having her suspicious. she was thinking jamie and terry were having an affair. the club treasurer and jamie? if one went to smoke they will look at the other one and say come on, let s go smoke. little things like that judy has started picking up on. we ve seen a lot of touchy- feely stuff that didn t quite look right. judy would ask me and i would say maybe or maybe not. nobody knows for sure but everybody s talking about it. judy decided to find out for herself. she confronted terry. terry said we are not doing anything. she confronted jamie. she said they are so calm about it. she said i know they are doing something. within a week of judy s death kay set judy s sons out. as they absorbed it all they remembered terry king was at the hospital the night her mom died. in fact they got she got there before they did. another even more awkward story . i don t want to tell this. she said jamie has been trying to get your mom to have a threesome with him and terry. what? this is not something your mom wanted? no. or something that you want to think about. sex, lies and a christian by club. who would ve thought. exactly. soon after opening up to judy s family she called detective reynolds. i said i have some text messages and i think you need to see them. she tells it there that she suspected jamie and terry. he said i will get back with you. i never heard from him again. the brothers and jesse also felt they were not getting anywhere. we got to find someone to help us and get some answers. why is nobody doing anything? it just didn t make sense. soon it would all start to make sense with some bombshell news. that is when we are thinking the police is looking into this. and disturbing revelation about jamie s alleged girlfriend and important evidence. did you say to your supervisor i think we should have someone come in and look at this blood? no i didn t. we found out terry went to the house and cleaned up. is this the most bungled evidence collection you ve ever seen? that might be a little nice. there was no evidence collection. when dateline continues. collection. when dateline continues. nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid for twice as long as pepcid. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium. nexgard® plus helps you protect your dog from fleas, ticks, heartworm disease, and more. all in one delicious, monthly, soft chew. use with caution in dogs with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. nexgard® plus: the one you want for one-and-done protection. norman, bad news. or neurologic disorders. i never graduated from med school. what? 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that is when we are thinking the police is looking into this. the brothers have been pushing the chester county s prosecution prosecutors office to look deeper into their mom s death. the deputy prosecutor was keeping tabs on the sheriff s investigation. we were being told to the sheriff s office they were doing what they were supposed to do. it turns out they were not. the prosecutor would learn there were serious problems. they are basically saying we don t need your help right now? exactly. we were hearing from the family people had not been interview. they were concerned evidence had not been collected. chris reynolds said he truly believed it was an accident and just didn t feel the need to investigate this as a potential crime. right. that is something with his experience he should ve known you do not make those kinds of assumptions up front. when someone dies you treat it as a murder until you know otherwise. we asked detective reynolds about how he handled the investigation. did you take judy s close? did you take her cell phone or jamie cell phone? we didn t collect anything at the house. that was a judgment call. some consider that and questionable call because there was something else. early in the investigation the coroner told the detective he thought judy s staff look suspicious. that it might even be a homicide. you just being overly cautious as a detective comedy juice think we should do a little more? we should get evidence. even if it s not a murder at least we did our job. i agree 100%. and the photos the detectives took? this is how a number of them came out. some are so blurry and so bad. the camera we had wasn t good. you can still take still shots. i struggle with the camera we have. he also failed to take critical forensic evidence. did you say to your supervisor i think we should have someone come in to look at the blood? i did it. reynolds never sealed the house after photographing. anyone can go in. and someone did, terry king. what happened to the blood evidence of judy s house? according to what we found out was that terry left the hospital and she went back to the hospital and cleaned it up. with permission from detective reynolds? yes. not only did he give her permission, he offered help. i gave her the number two a company that specializes in crime scenes and disaster restoration. so you are giving her advice ? no. she asked for help. that s with anybody else. if they asked for advice on how . right, but you are giving her advice on claiming a potential crime scene. at the time the crime scene we were done with. she s literally erasing the crime scene? that is exactly what happened. is this the most bundled hamlet billing bungled handling of a thing you ve ever seen? yes. even though there was a lack of evidence the prosecutor spoke to the corner and came to the conclusion this was no accident, but a murder. at some point i m going to have to look at this family and possibly tell them we are not going to have what we need to get justice for your family member. judy s family was losing hopes. and then and breakthrough eight months after judy s death the sheriff s office agreed to allow sled to take charge of the case, that is south carolina s top law enforcement agency. what does ladd do now that they are taking this over? they jumped in. agents went to the house and took another look, re-examined the autopsy findings. they came to the same conclusion, it all added up to homicide. we said we definitely have enough to present to a grand jury at this point. for judy s family it was a long time coming. in august 2018 a year and half after her death jamie baldwin was arrested for the murder of his wife. you get a call finally that jamie has been arrested. were you shocked? you could breathe a little bit. he s arrested for the murder of our mom. by now came the hard part, how to prosecute a case with little physical evidence. this was no slam dunk. far from it. the family knew going in that we had a real battle. coming up, maybe her falling off the latter isn t going to be a good explanation as to why she has these horrible injuries. he comes up with the idea that she was ejected from the vehicle. the jaw-dropping story told by the jeep. most people are aware playing have black boxes, vehicles have them too. in this case judy s wrangler had a lockbox. it did. it did. and with vitiligo, the pursuit for your pigment is no exception. it s time you had a proven choice to help restore what s yours. opzelura is the first and only fda-approved prescription treatment for nonsegmental vitiligo. proven to help repigment skin over time. restoring what s yours. it s possible with a steroid-free cream that you can apply yourself. opzelura can lower your ability to fight infections including tb or hepatitis b or c. serious lung infections, skin cancer, blood clots, and low blood cell counts occurred with opzelura. in people taking jak inhibitors, serious infections, increased risk of death, lymphoma, other cancers, and major cardiovascular events have occurred. the most common side effects were acne and itching where applied. repigmentation is possible. ask your dermatologist today about starting or refilling opzelura. pursue it. you re the one that i want nexgard® combo is the only monthly topical that protects against fleas, ticks, tapeworms, and more. use with caution in cats with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. nexgard combo,. you re the one that i want .the monthly one-and-done you want. everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it s a great product. it s going to help a lot of patients. diabetes can serve up a lot of questions. like what is your glucose and can you have more carbs? 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i thought it was going to have a huge impact. we offered a plea deal. he turned it down. jamie baldwin pleaded not guilty. it was probably the most substantially circumstantial evidence that i had ever tried in a murder case. candace lively set out to prove jamie killed his wife and then tried to cover it up. this is unfortunately simply about someone who wanted to get rid of his wife. someone who wanted to have control of what he wanted to do when he wanted to do it. lightly told jurors the couple had argued multiple times about terry king. on the night of judy s that she believes judy demanded her husband end his relationship with terry. he got extremely angry. he has a temper. he attacked her at that mantle. the prosecutor alleged in a fit of rage jamie took one of the stocking holders and hit judy so hard it caused her brain to believe, leaving her with those raccoon eyes. this thing is heavy. very heavy. the shape closely matched the irregular cut on judy s head. whenever you look at the picture of the santa stocking holder it really fit the ridges in that unusual laceration. a medical expert testified after judy was attacked she probably died within five minutes. lively argued that it went jamie came up with his elaborate plan to cover up his crime. he comes up with this idea of maybe her falling off a ladder isn t going to be a good explanation as to why she has these horrible injuries. she said he took his wife s dead body, put it in the jeep and took a dark rule road so he wouldn t be seen when he stage the accident. he came up with the idea that she was ejected from the vehicle. he pulled her out in stages her. to prove that the prosecution relied on the end lance corporal brian trotter, an accident reconstruction expert with the state highway patrol was on the scene that night. he testified and showed us how a device in the jeep recorded the last second of the vehicles movement. most people are aware that a plane has black boxes. i was not aware vehicles have them too. in this case judy s wrangler had a black box. i took this one out of a retired police car to show you what they look like. in simple terms when there is accident the car hit something and it triggers the black box to start recording information. what did you learn? the one for this case came back with no data. that is actually really important? in this case it is. it means no crash. the theory is jamie slowly and purposely drove his jeep into the creek. the most surprising witness was terry king, the woman at the center of the alleged love triangle. i was hoping when she was finally put under oath in court that she would come clean. terry was no longer living with jamie. with jamie. teri flat out denieg a romantic relationship even though she was and witness for the state the prosecutor immediately faced a big challenge. terry flat-out denied having a romantic relationship with jamie. with jamie. andrea canning: but the prosecutor did have text messages sent between teri and jamie. the prosecutor did have text messages sent between terry and jamie. d jamie. the judge ruled she could not show them to the jury, but she could question terry about them. about them. andrea canning: teri testified, she and jamie were just platonic roommates, nothing more. jamie were just platonic roommates and nothing more. you felt that terry was misleading the jury? absolutely. she had tried to mislead us for months as well. lightly said she has suspicions, but never found evidence to prove it. terry denied any involvement. the defense was up next. they were ready to exploit all the holes in the prosecution s case. would it be enough to set jamie free? coming up . an expert witness says judy s blood in the jeep proves the prosecution is wrong about when she died. if she is actively bleeding she is alive. and then the verdict. everybody was holding hands and you could hear everybody gas. when dateline continues. gas. when dateline continues. but this is my story. 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every time i talk to her. not only that she told jurors she whenever the tray judy. tray judy. andrea canning: most importantly, the defense insisted, there was no crime, just two tragic accidents. most importantly, the defense insisted there was no crime, just two tragic accidents and, they said, the state didn t have any evidence to prove otherwise. there was no dna. there were no fingerprints and there was no weapon. they call detective reynolds to the stand and attacked his investigation. his investigation. ourselves in this situation. they would have cleared up all those questions at that time, how does that all play into your defense? had a done a better job we probably would not have found ourselves in the situation. this would ve gone down as an accident. it s what it was. the defense did agree the stocking holder may have caused due to spinal injury, but not because jamie used it as a weapon. we believe she was on the ladder and fell and struck the ornament that was sitting on the mantelpiece and fell to the floor. ross gardner testified and told us all the blood found in the jeep proved something crucial, that she was alive when they crashed. he pointed to the blood on the bumper, the passenger door and the saturation of blood on her seat. we are looking at the passenger seat. what we can see is there is saturation throughout. gardner says contrary to the theory that judy died within five minutes at her home the evidence in the jeep proved that was impossible. if she is actively bleeding she is technically alive. her heart is beating. after leaving the house literally this tells us she was bleeding while in the jeep. the defense also pointed to several experts, including the prosecution who all agreed judy s injuries could ve been accidental. having three medical experts who cannot say this is definitely not an accident. in my mind there is reasonable doubt. after seven days of testimony the case went to the jury. the prosecutor felt there was a good chance jamie could walk. she turned to the family for support and judy herself. i really felt i had judy on my shoulder. i felt that family really gave me a lot of hope. less than three hours later there was a burdick. everybody was holding hands as tight as we could. when they were at that verdict you could hear everyone gasped. with the jury on the defendant guilty of murder. of we finally got justice for mom. i just broke down and cried. i couldn t believe it. we finally got justice for mom. detective chris reynolds was in the courthouse that day too. he believes the jury made the right decision. he wants the public to know he did more than they think to look into judy s death. still, he realizes because of his incomplete investigation a killer might ve walked free. you get emotional over this? i take it personal. this case was a big learning experience. i ve never dropped the ball on anything. that night i did and i am sorry. jamie never took the stand but did speak at his sentencing. his sentencing. andrea canning: the judge sentenced the 60-year-old to life in prison without the chance of parole. the judge sentenced the 60-year- old to life in prison without the chance of parole. is he evil? 100% evil, satan s spawn 100%. judy s family says they can finally move on with their lives. there is one thing that brings them peace. you are religious. does that give you any comfort to know your mom and dad are now together? they are in a better place than we are. what would you say to judy? i will tell her that i love her and i would give her the biggest hug. that is all for this edition of dateline. thank you for watching. ank you this sunday edition of morning joe weekend. it was another fast-moving news week. here are more of the conversations you ekmight have missed. donald trump and his allies are ratcheting up their calls for revenge against de
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i do love my dad. are you afraid of him too? i m scared of my dad. what a strange, strange thing to love the person you re afraid of. the father you re afraid of. it s because at one point in time i wasn t afraid of him. he wasn t what he is now. but she wasn t what she is now either. which is why she s come back all these years later to the woods and the old farmhouse at her dad s school. but we begin years ago and far away in a place called feris, texas where teresa tucker a single mom of three was no other word for it, desperate. it was about her middle daughter ashley. spiraling out of control. what were you worried about? drugs and just rebellion. very mouthy and so i didn t know where to turn. how old was she at the time? 16. on that december weekend in 2014, ashley was getting kicked out of yet another rehab. so teresa called her best friend, the pastor s wife for help. my pastor and his wife told us about circle of hope. circle of hope girls ranch and boarding school. it was in missouri on a farm. the students followed a strict regimen of chores and schoolwork and bible study. was it important to you that she go to a place where there was going to be some spiritual help? at this point i didn t really care. i just needed her to have help. there are hundreds of private residential facilities across the country promising to reform troubled teens. they range from it wilderness programs to therapeutic boarding schools to boot camps. and then there are those whose lessons derive from it a very particular religious point of view. circle of hope was run by a married couple boyd and stephanie householder. at the heart of their program. miss householder was a nurse and she was going to facilitate her medications and things like that. most important of all, perhaps, they had a free bed and could take ashley right away. for just $100 a month. to teresa it felt like a miracle of sorts. she signed a contract committing ashley to an 18 month stay. and then she said good-bye. the pastor and his wife drove ashley to missouri. what was it like for you on the trip to that place. my pastor and his wife kept telling me everything s going to be okay. what were your first impressions? when we first got there it was at night. it was really dark. there they were waiting. boyd and stephanie householder. they were nice. they were sweet. they were laughing. joking. okay, this is a really good place. i m going to get help here. but as soon as the pastor and his wife left the householders changed. they went from smiling and laughing to just straight face and that was it. i mean they didn t show any emotions or anything. ashley didn t know why. she suddenly felt very afraid. and she stepped deeper into the farmhouse. into a world of fear. what was it like? it was hell. it was scary. you were alone. it was basically while you re in there it s survival. what was really happening at that ranch? tales of terror from the girls on the inside. coming up. they had girls scrubbing the floor with toothbrushes. unless you were physically laying in it bed to sleep you were standing and you were facing a wall. all day every day? all day every day. when dateline continues. lin have you always had trouble losing weight and keeping it off? 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no, i department. i didn t have no idea. amanda householder, however, did. knew that very well. boyd and stephanie are her parents. was your dad well suited to this kind of work? yes because he was a drill instructor. it was second nature to him to just put people in their place. before he d started working in reform schools, boyd householder had been a marine. a trainer of marines. amanda had idolized her strong, commanding father. when i was like 2 or 3 i was a daddy s little girl. he d take her for drives in his jeep, she said. listen to music together. but things began to change, said amanda when her mother persuaded the ex-drill sergeant to start going to church. there are many versions of christianity, of course. this one? do you remember what the sermons were like or what the preaching was like? a lot of the sermons were a lot based on fear and burning in hell for eternity. and some, she remembers, talked about how to discipline children. how to beat the sin out of them. it was to spare the rod spoil the child. it was through someone he met at church that amanda s dad got his first job at a christian reform school. boyd worked at agape. when amanda was 15 he decided to open his own school only this would be for girls. what was this place like? this physical house, the location? it was just a very run down homely place. she was sent there when she was in tenth grade. what had you been doing? committing crimes or something? i had never committed a crime. my mom found out that i had become sexually active and that i had tried marijuana for the first time. maggie drew arrived in 2007 when she was 15. nobody was smiling. i saw the girls and everybody was so quiet and i was like this is so dismal. what is this? maggie said the girls were afraid from the minute they woke up. it was immediately get up, hurry, hurry. get dressed. get downstairs. for bible study. and then chores. bizarre chores. they had girls scrubbing the floor with toothbrushes. they had the girls wiping walls down. they had us picking weeds in the middle of the heat all day. they would say, you know, the bible says this. the bible says that. no, that is your interpretation of the bible. that s not what the bible really says. but you d talk back like that? no. no. no, no, no. it was yes, ma am. why? because if we did we got punished. punishment. it s right here in the handbook. boyd householder promised to help reform especially difficult children by imposing biblical discipline. it didn t seem so biblical to her. he d sit in his chair like this and be like pushups and they would start doing pushups and it would turn into him going up and kicking their hands out from underneath him. another punishment he called standing on the wall. unless you were physically laying in bed to sleep you were standing and you were facing a wall. all day every day? all day every day you d have to eat like you d be given one of those old school plastic 80s style lunch trays. i watched him walk past people on the wall and just hit their trays and their food would go everywhere. boyd householder denied that. said he didn t knock girls down while they did pushups either. but those weren t the only kind of stories we heard. we spoke to more than a dozen former students and three former staff members whose experiences at circle of hope span more than a decade and all of them told us that boyd householder didn t just subject his students to chores and pushups and other creative punishments. no, they said. he was physically abusive. he would go up behind a girl and grab them by the base of the neck behind their head like this like right up behind your ears almost and he would put a foot out and trip you and shove you, follow down and shove you with force face first. carpet, gravel, the floor of the chicken pen. didn t matter, said maggie. at that point he d put his fist on the side of your head and one in the middle of your back so you couldn t get up. and there was more, said maggie. boyd ordered some of the girls to help. to put their weight on the students pressure points. and they did. it was like one of those things where it s like dog eat dog where if you don t fight your way to the top and do what you re told to do then it s going to come back at you. she found that out the hard way when she tried not to press too hard on the girl she was helping restrain. he dropped his knees on top of my elbows and once he did that and pushed his weight on top of me the girl then started screaming and he looked at me and told me that if she wasn t screaming like that once he let go of me holding her that i was going to be laying next to her until i [ bleep ] myself and said i needed to make decisions of whose side i was on. the householders told us they did restrain students when they were violent but never deliberately inflicted pain. and amanda? well, these girls were her age, some of them. could have been her friends. except amanda wasn t a student. and sometimes she was the one handing out the discipline. i know i had power trips. i know there were certain girls my dad favored over me and i didn t like them so i treated them poorly in the sense that i d be like just push, give me 25. things she did she said things her father wanted her to do. whose side was amanda on? coming up. a stunning new allegation. i was sexually abused. there? yes, sir. when dateline continues. ne a slow network is no network for business. that s why more choose comcast business. and now, we re introducing ultimate speed for business our fastest plans yet. we re up to 12 times faster than verizon, at&t, and t-mobile. and existing customers could even get up to triple the speeds. at no additional cost. it s ultimate speed for ultimate business. don t miss out on our fastest speed plans yet! switch to comcast business and get started for $49.99 a month. plus, ask how to get up to an $800 prepaid card. call today! keith morrison: on sundays, the students at circle of hope sometimes climbed into a bus on sundays the students at circle of hope sometimes climbed into a bus that drove them the 50 miles down highway 13 to a church with a towering white steeple. berean baptist church. the girls walked inside dressed in their sunday best and church smiles. the smiles were fake, said maggie. we did whatever we had to to make him happy. amanda watched it all. she knew, she said, what the students were hiding. how her dad treated them behind closed doors. what was it like to see your dad punishing other kids? i think that to me is the most traumatizing part, um, because to me it was just normal. amanda told us her dad had never spared her the rod, beating her regularly as a child. using his belt after church. but hearing the girls scream as they were being punished. when you think of souls burning in a lake of fire for eternity, that s what these girls sound like. and the screaming is especially hard to forget, she told us. because she helped her dad. as a 15-year-old i was forced to restrain the girls the same way my dad would. how d that make you feel? i stopped. i refused to go when they yelled restrain. i would always say i have to make lunch or make dinner or i have dishes to do. did you ever tell your dad just go easy? i never had the guts. i never had the guts. when she was 15 she tried running away. failed. her father denied punishing her, but after that she said, things changed for her. i was put on the wall. every time my dad walked past me i was yelled at. couldn t use the bathroom without permission. i wasn t allowed to eat until my parents brought me food. i could not leave the wall outside my dad s office. just standing facing the wall. just standing facing the wall. how long? i think it was two months. amanda was not like the other girls. no one would pick her up and take her away. she counted the days until she was old enough to leave. and in 2009 when she was 17, she moved in with her grandma. then across the country to california. a new life. a fresh start. i had a really good job. i had my own apartment. i was doing everything a person does. even so, she wasn t quite ready to turn her back on her family. not yet anyway. in 2011 after a parent posted negative comments about the school online, it might surprise you who its loudest defender was. you were online defending your parents. i know. right? why were you doing that? i don t know other than i kind of felt guilty that it was my family and so any time that people would say something i just felt i didn t want my dad to go to jail. i don t know how to explain it. there were some stories she never heard back then. she never met ashley tucker. the teenager from feris, texas who arrived at the ranch in 2014. behind closed doors with just us kids, they were monsters. ashley said it was in that culture of fear that the worst thing happened to her. i was sexually abused. there? yes, sir. the boy was amanda s younger brother, she told us. he was 15 at the time. she said it happened while she was doing chores in one of the buildings on the farm. he walked over there, he grabbed me, he pushed me up against one of the walls and he actually ended up raping me right there. what happens to you when that s going on? i felt disgusting. i felt like i was nothing. i felt like i was never going to get out of that place. she told no one. copt tell her mom because she knew when she got calls from home someone was always listening. they would have their like their thumb over the little hang up button. but then a few months into her stay ashley took a chance. she told her mother that she was losing a lot of weight. when she told me that they hung up. so i call back, i m like what s going on. oh, well she s being rebellious. put her back on the phone and that s when ashley said they re starving me. and the phone cut out again. teresa had heard enough. as soon as she could she got in her car and drove from texas to missouri to see for herself what was going on inside that yellow farmhouse. coming up. i m not going to lie. i hated my mom. i hated her. i couldn t stand her. feel guilty? 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she d been so desperate to find ashley somewhere safe she d sent her there on blind faith. she didn t like what she saw. so when ashley came i seen her. take a deep breath. she had lost so much weight. she looked real sick. so i hugged her and told her we re going home. but before they left, said teresa, boyd householder handed her this document. i had to sign a paper that officially stated she was not sexually abused and she was not physically abused there. what a curious thing for a person to have you sign. right. did ashley tell you on the way home what she d been through? it was a very long eight hours. i told her basics. i didn t really go into detail. it was too hard. the householder s son denies ashley s story of rape. she told us as awful as it was, she considers him a victim too. of the world he grew up in. she was, at the time, less forgiving of her own mother. i m not going to lie, i hated my mom. i hated her. i couldn t stand her. i couldn t stand looking at her. feel guilty? yeah. you know, how could i do this to my child. thinking i was helping her. teresa did not want it happening to anyone else. ashley begged her, don t report the alleged rape and so she didn t. but teresa did call child protective services and told them about ashley s other allegations of physical abuse. they stated that they were going to go out and check the facility and all that. once they got back with me they stated that they didn t see anything, there was nothing they could do. teresa contacted the sheriff s office too. same story. nothing happened. what teresa didn t know was that she was far from the first or only person to make a complaint to authorities about the circle of hope. a mother told us she reported the school the year after it opened and as time went on police records show more relatives and students told stories of abuse. about a girl covered in bruises. a run away who said she d been choked by boyd householder and four years later another run away who said boyd had grabbed her by the throat. and several times child protective services went out to visit, except. i was told if i said anything negative that my life was going to be made miserable. boyd coached the girls before they talked to cps investigators. they were sure he was listening, she said. eavesdropping from his office on the other side of the wall. i remember being asked like are people being starved and i was like no. i was literally terrified about what would happen to me if i was going to start being the person that was starved next because nothing ever came out of these. amanda told us her parents had another way of handling investigators too. i was told when cps came down stairs to take the girls outside and basically hide the girls from cps. you hid the girls from the authorities who would check on whether or not they were okay? yes. you know your parents said they had an open door policy with cps that they could come any old time. was that not the case? cps could come in but like i said i had to hide them. amanda s parents denied that. said they never hid students from cps. they said they told the girls to be honest with investigators. in any case, none of the reports ever resulted in any action. the school prospered and parents like teresa had no way of knowing about the complaints over the years. we have no regulations on any religious facilities in the state of missouri. none? none. none. not at all. keri ingle is a missouri state representative and former social worker. do these places even have to register with the state? no. we have no ability currently to even know about their existence. so i couldn t even tell you how many of these institutions exist in the state of missouri. they re invisible. correct. until something bad happens. and it s not just missouri. a 2021 nbc news investigation found gaps in regulation around the country with at least 21 states that did not require religious boarding schools to tell their education departments that they exist. so who is looking out for these kids? 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i was constantly getting hit up by girls that left circle of hope telling me about what was going on and i didn t want to hear it any more. i was just didn t want to know. yeah. there are some things you cannot escape. in 2016 or 17, i got a message from a girl who i had never heard of. and in the message she s telling me my dad raped her. and i m like no. and yet, the message made her think back to a letter written years before. the words of another angry student. i was there when my dad got this letter and it basically accused my dad of molesting her. and at that time i was like, that didn t happen. like i know my dad. that didn t happen. that letter writer was maggie drew who d come to circle of hope at 15 and stayed for five years. boyd said it never happened. but now all these years later amanda needed to know. had maggie been telling the truth. and she said i know you have no reason to lie to me, like just be honest. maggie who had never told her story to police told amanda how boyd had groped her in his private office she turned 18. and he d grab my butt or grab my boob from the side and he started trying to kiss me. amanda was devastated. she hadn t always agreed with how her dad ran the school, but this was worse than anything she d imagined. she apologized to maggie for not believing her all those years ago. you re okay. i know. you re okay. i m glad you wrote the letter though. i m really glad because that letter is how i started just thinking. amanda started thinking about all of it. how her parents had raised her. what she said she saw them do to the children at circle of hope. it wasn t until i had my own kids that i realized what was going on was happening to other peoples kids. and she wanted to make things right. she and maggie decided to track down the girls of circle of hope, as many as they could. listen to their stories. ask if they were okay. it was a big thing for a lot of them to honestly in a safe space speak their truth. it wasn t just kids at circle of hope who had stories about her father. amanda began hearing from former students of agape, the boys religious reform school where her dad used to work. colton remembered him very well. i d watch him grab students and chuck them into a wall. grab them by the neck and slam them on the rocks outside. boyd denied that. but amanda listened and remembered her childhood at agape. watching boys being dragged off to a room known as the padded palace. when you open the door it would go into a weird dark carpeted room. that was the restrain room. all you would see is later these boys were being drug back down from this room and they re all bloody and bruised. we talked to a dozen former agape students and four former employees who told us they witnessed staff mistreating kids over a number of years. agape did not respond to our requests for comment. on its website it states its staff doesn t participate in corporal punishment. they have all been trained in proper restraining techniques. colton insisted he was beaten there. years ago and tried to report it to a sheriff s deputy who picked him up. i tried to tell him like man, they re beating us and he didn t listen. cuffed me up, put me in the back of the car and dropped me off back at agape. never saw cps. nothing. and the cop didn t believe you. no. agape, like circle of hope was seen in the community as doing good work. helping troubled kids. amanda said it wasn t unusual to see deputies hanging out at circle of hope. sometimes doing target practice with her dad. maggie said boyd boasted about it. they had ties with all the cops in the area. we ran away or said anything we d be immediately brought back and nobody would believe us. it was hard for amanda to imagine they would listen to her now. hard to understand how her dad s school continued to operate. in 2018, investigators from missouri s department of social services issued two findings of abuse against amanda s dad. one for physical abuse and one for sexual abuse. but remember, the religious school wasn t registered with any state agency. there was no license to suspend. no agency to go shut it down. this facility continued to operate. is, i mean it flies in the face of everything we know about child welfare policy. so girls kept arriving at circle of hope. what could amanda do? and then, a few unguarded seconds caught on tape. and that dam with the crack in it gave way. coming up. knock her out. yes, sir. i mean it. the tiktok video that triggered a fire storm. when dateline continues. when dateline continues. 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even now. hearing his voice in that tone made me sick to my stomach. but seeing the video, i felt like i was right back at their house. that scene is exactly what happens every single time. my mom is in the background like nothing is going on playing with her dogs like oh you cute little thing and my dad is just going off like nothing. yes, sir. yes, sir. all of the little yes, sirs. if you don t say yes, sir, you can be slapped across the face. you have to say yes, sir. wow. knock her out. 21 seconds that struck a nerve. i was floored by the amount of support and like sharing and viewing that was like from the tiktok video. and i was like, they re listening. people are actually listening to us for once. including a sheriff s deputy. after watching the video, he messaged amanda. there are some people that want to help. these girls deserve to have their complaints investigated properly. that deputy s boss is cedar county sheriff james mccrary. what was it about the tiktok video that struck such a nerve? well the allegations, some of the allegations were pretty serious. serious enough the sheriff said to launch a brand new investigation. his deputy went back and compiled all those years of complaints that had never gone anywhere. amanda connected him with former students and staff. he put together a case file. is that a fairly thick file? yeah, it s about five inches thick probably. are you seeing a pattern of behavior on the part of the people running that particular school? well it seems to be that way, yes. having said that, i think we need to be patient and see where this investigation takes us. the sheriff s investigation was just the beginning. in august 2020, authorities removed two dozen girls from the school. two weeks later state investigators descended with their own search warrant and soon after missouri s attorney general agreed to assist the local prosecutor with his investigation. why did it take so long? you know over the years we took several of the reports, the complaints to the prosecutor s office. any idea why they didn t proceed with any, you know, any further action? my belief and what possibly occurred is some of the alleged victims may have been afraid to tell us what was going on. if anyone thought that the sheriff s department was somehow protecting these schools when it knew that things were happening in there that wasn t good for these students, if somebody thought that would they be wrong? they would be wrong, yes, sir. finally in september 2020, amanda got the news she d been hoping for. her parents shuttered circle of hope for good. how d it feel to you to see girls were being pulled out of a place and eventually it was closed down? happy. what does it say to you that it takes a tiktok video to finally get authorities to move to protect children? it tells me that the system is very flawed. something representative keri ingle tried to fix. she introduced a bill requiring religious schools to register and be held accountable if they re found abusing kids. in july 2021, missouri governor mike parsons signed the bill into law. several of the householder s former students sought accountability too. five jane does filed civil lawsuits against boyd and stephanie householder. two accused boyd of sexual assault. in a written statement the householders told us the great majority of their hundreds of students benefited from what they called their christian- based discipline program and school. while they denied liability, the couple settled the complaints for an undisclosed amount. in march of 2021, boyd and stephanie householder were both arrested. the missouri attorney general s office filed more than 100 criminal charges against them. boyd himself faces nearly 80 felony charges. including multiple counts for statutory rape and sodomy. they have both pleaded not guilty and are awaiting trial. as for one of their most vocal critics, their daughter amanda. the householders told us they d been estranged from her since 2014. your parents did an interview to one of the local papers. they said you are addicted to drugs, that you re a satan worshiper. what do you say to things like that? when i turned 18 and i was on my own i did experiment with drugs. i m not going to lie. when i had my kids that changed. one of the things said in the newspaper article was people who are complaining about the school they ve been failures in their lives and you re a failure in your life and you re blaming them. you need somebody to blame. i may not be successful in the sense that i am a millionaire, but my kids are happy. my kids don t have to fear me. to me i m successful. and she told us she s not done speaking out. in the fall of 2020, she led a march to the gates of agape, the boys school where her dad worked years ago. it s time that we bring awareness to agape. awareness, yes. and accountability too. in 2022, the missouri department of social services said it substantiated multiple allegations of physical abuse against the school s former director. no criminal charges were filed. three staff members also pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault charges. another employee, a school physician, is facing child sex crime charges. he pleaded not guilty. finally, in january 2023, agape announced it was closing its doors. a school spokesperson said the decision was voluntary and due solely to a lack of finances. it s been painful, amanda told us, this reckoning with her father and her own past. she said she hopes it mattered for former students like ashley tucker. ashley kicked her drug addiction and plans to become a paramedic. she s a mother herself now. and calls her daughter her angel. now you know how your mom felt about you. yeah. now i realize that, you know, she was you trying to help me. amanda does not expect to reconcile with her parents any time soon. do you miss them at all? i miss what i wanted to have happen. like what i i would never go back, but i think what i m trying to say is i just miss something i never had. what she has instead is a cause to help those kids she once knew. and the others coming after them and to forgive herself as well. that s all for this edition of dateline. i m craig melvin. thank you for watching. ank you i m andrea canning, and this is dateline. vehe had gone off the road into this creek bed. they tetold me this vehicle had gone off the road intohis creek bed. she s got severe injuries to her head. little did you know the mystery that was about to