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review their records. for donald trump, it does something else, and that is i think in his case, it may take the heat off of him legally, because it is establishing a pattern that as beth said, this is the system that is broken and that needs to be fixed, and even though the trump case is completely different from the biden case and the pence case where they were immediately cooperative, i think that it may help him with how merrick garland moves forward. >> thank you, jamie gangel for moving forward and with the analysis, brad. and now, there is an urgent manhunt in washington after a man shoots and kills three people at a gas station. another fatal shooting in california involving a suspect

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were they accidental or intentional and what was the level of obstruction of justice or of an investigation that happened afterward? that is what the justice department needs to look into. that will involve probably i think a special counsel here to fairly and adequately look into how these documents got out. why they did, was it just sloppiness or was someone voluntarily trying to get documents out of the white house? that is the same standard of law that has been applied to president biden that should to president trump and vice president pence here. >> you're raising a stunning prospect, could there be another special counsel appointed here? should there be for dealing with the pence case? >> only on a count -- look, i have said consistently about this from the beginning that the justice department is perfectly capable of investigating people of their own political party or of the opposing political party. but the fact is we live in a political world and the public

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he pointed out willie that 93 united states senators disagreed with him and said he was lying about a stolen election that his own attorney general called that stolen election and i am quoting, attorney general barr here, donald trump's claims were nothing but quotes and -- the governor and the legislatures in every battleground state rejected his lies. of course over 60 federal judges and courts, rejected those lies. the united states supreme court rejected those lies and the two most conservative members of the supreme court. why don't we take up this pence case, it's not going to make a

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