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control the house of representativ representatives anymore. but the administration, working with republicans in congress, they've managed to undermine the law. they've managed to change the rules around it. we actually are starting to see the number of people without health insurance starting to creep back up. that's probably one of the reasons. so we have a system that's still in place but starting to get weaker. meanwhile, we've had all along lots of people who still can't afford health care, people who don't have insurance, people with insurance facing big bills. i think a lot of people are wondering, what do we do now? what is next? >> three things the president has said in the past is that drug prices are going down because of policies he's enacted. he's also said that pre-existing conditions for republicans -- or republicans will protect pre-existing conditions. and that premiums have gone down. jonathan, is that the case? >> so let me take those in
would begin to deport a large number of teenage undocumented immigrants next year. that kind of cuts into the leverage he might have. >> and if i could talk about this not in political terms but like in human being terms, this is about someone going to an oncologist, getting bad news, and thinking, i don't i mean, people who don't have insurance, they die. more often than people who do have insurance. so i mean this is potentially an enormous human tragedy that could be unfolding about people who are not getting health care and you know, i know it's a very important political issue, but health care is not just politics. it's actually life and death. >> and to that point real quick, you know, there was polling from kaiser, 70% of americans want the administration to make the aca work rather than try to make it fail so that it could be
♪ all i'd want is you to shade me and be my leaves ♪ grown in america. picked & packed at the peak of ripeness. the same essential nutrients as fresh. del monte. bursting with life™. we are entering a home stretch for obama care. people who don't have insurance must enroll in a private exchange in order to be covered next year. if they don't, they'll be violating the law and face a fine of $95 or more for wealthier americans. whether republicans like it or not, that is the law. and it's not going anywhere. >> the affordable care act has gone through every single democratic process. all three branches of government. it's the law of the land. it's here to stay. >> washington may not realize it, but we are actually approaching the line where obama care as a political debate ends.
conservative think tank says wisconsin has no coverage gap. >> people ten to characterize republicans, the fact is wisconsin has covered many more people than delaware has. delaware is not a marchly poor state but it is pretty clear that they've taken care of a large he enough of poor people. f i don't know. i'm not being argumentative but the question is when you've taken them off medicate and put them into the obama care, is the effect of that. some of them may not be able to afford the premiums and i think this is one of the risks. so in our state, we have 90,000 people who don't have insurance. we speck 30 to 35,000 will sign up on the exchange. we expect another 30,000 on medicaid and they're probably 30,000 who won't be on either one. >> some democrats in our state
confident conservatives are behind it. >> wonder where the consciences will be behind it, i wonder where the public will be. the implementation will start happening in the next year. we say implementation we're talking about setting up these health insurance exchanges, people who don't have insurance, aren't covered through their employers will get it through these exchanges and sara, jonathan comb who covers health care wrote about this implementation phase. his assessment was it's not is going to work as well as many of us would like in the initial adjustment may not be easy. this will be rougher even if it's good in the end rougher than we expect. >> that's a fair assessment. so we were talking about how we've seen the president in a is this in a lot of ways a news conference last week said there will be bumps in the road. political question, and it strikes me the last time there when you talk about the task, was a presidential candidate who signing 30 million people up for ran who was basically health insurance, for private health insurance, something the unequivalentally openly opposed government has never attempted to capital pun jushment it before that, you know, the last time we did something comparable