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out. this has been fun. and don t forget to catch greta later tofblt on on ferguson. set your dvr so you don t misan episode of the five. special report is next. this is a fox news alert. i m bret baier in washington. we are awaiting a decision in the ferguson grand jury s decision on the police shooting. it could also spark protests in the st. louis suburb as well as in urban centers and other parts of the country, at issue, did white police officer darren wilson shoot justifiably when he shot michael brown on august 9. shep? reporter: a number of matters at hand tonight, we re expecting to hear 30 minutes or so from
now, from governor jay nixon. he is urging calm tonight for whatever decision is made. there will be an indictment handed down on a certain number of counts or no indictment at all. there s a time to come that another matter that we have no idea about. we re hoping that when the governor speaks in 30 minutes, he will let us know when that announcement is to be read. the grand jury still sequestered and held until after the announcement is made. it was considering whether police officer darren wilson should be charged in the death of michael brown, so 30 minutes from now from the governor and at some point the reading of the decision. we have fongs team coverage tonight, james rosen reports the ferguson investigations will not be over no matter what the grand jury decides tonight. but we begin, of course with steve harwhat ar harrigan at th
center. reporter: this grand jury has largely worked behind the scenes, behind closed doors for the last few months. the grand jury of 12, nine whites three, blacks has a range of options open to them, anything from letting officer wilson walk free, all the way up to first-degree murder. so a couple of important decisions to be made by that grand jury, over the past three months since the incident happened, both sides have really been preparing their response and it s really not clear to anyone how that response could go. a number of stores and businesses in the area have already boarded up and i can tell you just in the last couple of hours in anticipation of a coming announcement, more and more stores are closing as the roads are also being blocked off. in recent nights we have seen very small scale protests, 50 to 70 demonstrators out there, just a handful of arrests and really not much violence. on the other hand the law enforcement presence is visible
and kbroe. also a governor who has made clear that violent unrest will not be tolerated. back to breaking news, the ferguson matter is still far from settled. a federal investigation into the shooting is still going on. chief washington correspondent james rosen has that part of the story tonight. reporter: within 48 hours after the shooting death of michael brown in ferguson, missouri on august 9, violent unrest royaled on the city streets, governor jay nixon suggested that the department of justice open a criminal investigation that would supplement rather than sue plant the one already being done by local authorities. the department of justice is getting involved in this and we have been in touch with civil rights leaders both in the area and nationally. reporter: those resources would come to include over 40 fbi agents on the ground. critics of the obama administration and attorney general eric holder in
particulardoubt that doj would conduct an unbiassed probe. i think it s a pity that the federal government should be spofbding. why is it a pity? because i don t think it should be a federal issue, not at this stage of the investigation. we re not living in the era of segregation, of jim crowe, this is 2014. cool minds think that bringing eric holder s department of justice in is going to enhance the likely hood that we ll have an investigation that is objective and professional. reporter: by august 20, racial tension now at a flash point, holdinger touched down in ferguson himself. many citizens both local and beyond applauded the attorney general. by him being here now, i have given up the race issue. having the attorney general of the united states involved in a shooting in ferguson, missouri means that the family should get some reassurance, the police officers get some reassurance and the community should feel
better that the federal government is taking a look at this. reporter: but holder widened the doj investigation even further and opening still another federal probe into whether ferguson police have exhibited a pattern or practice of unlawful conduct, one of 20 such probes of different police departments, holder s doj has initia initiated. that s twice the probes that have been implemented in the last five years. be sure that the justice system is viewed as fair to all americans. i think it s really about optics, it s about this president wanting to show black america and his left that he is doing something here. regardless of whether federal intervention is warranted at this point. reporter: with his own resignation already announced, attorney general holder has ordered that none of the investigations in ferguson is being held at any timeline, which will mean they will likely come to a head under his
successor. since president obama s repudiation by the voters in the midterm elections, speculation has round ram panel here in washington on who would pay the price. tonight we know, attorney general chuck hagel is out. u.s. officials are saying anonymously that he was fired. we have fox team coverage on that. brit hume with what the decision means for the white house. reporter: everyone tried to put a happy face on this move today, but administration insiders tell me and our own jennifer griffin at the pentagon, make no mistake about it, this was a firing. i consider myself extraordinarily lucky to have had him by my side. reporter: president obama went on for so long about chuck hagel s sterling credentials as defense secretary, he tried to push the idea that he resigned on his own.
last month chuck came to discuss with me the final quarter of my presidency and determined that having guided the department through this transition, it was an appropriate time for him to complete liz service. let me just say that chuck is and has been a great friend of mine. reporter: hagel went out of his way to say vice president biten was a dear friend and noted that beth the president and the secretary learned a lot from biden. hagued pointedly left them out of his references to team work. i want to thank the entire leadership team at the pentagon. without their support and wise counsel over the last couple of year years, our many accomplishments and the president noted some, i have be part of that, but it was a team. reporter: hagel has clashed with the white house and insiders are not pleased by suggesting that the syria policy was failing because there was
not enough focus on the row removal of president assad. john mccain said a the secretary expressed deep frustration in a meeting last week. already the white house people are leaking, well, he wasn t up to the job. believe me, he was up to the job. it was the job he was given where he really was never brought into that real tight circle inside the white house that makes all the decisions which has put us into the incredible debacle that we re in today throughout the world. reporter: white house press secretary josh ernest ducked a direct question on whether hagel was pushed out. but ernest pushed back on mccain on whether he was a critic. i don t think that was full disclose area at the confirmation hearing. i have just been handed a note that i misspoke and said i
supported the president s position on containment. if i said that, i meant to say that obviously his position on containment, we don t have a position on containment. reporter: the tension only grew over the summer. we must prepare for everything. reporter: his two predecessors, robert gates and leon panetta both wrote books they were scathing about the president. i haven t seen any evidence of that, i think that one of the hallmarks of secretary hagel s career is that he s been somebody who s been extrordarily loyal to his country and to haze command never chief. reporter: senator jack reid has already pulled out of the the first female defense secretary ever. but any pick is going to first have to get through a new republican senate come january. ed henry, live on the north
lawn. senior political analyst brit hume is here tonight with perspective on the hagual ouster. brit? it barely matters if chuck hagel decided to step down on his own or was force it out. hagel was almost no one s idea of the best qualified person when he was appointed. which is why nearly everyone in the senate voted against him. after an embarrassingly inept performance in his confirmation hearing hafs prove bid the smallest margin in the history of the job of defense secretary. but one of the ways it ended badly was a surprise. when the isis threat emerged, hagel started telling the truth about it as did senior military commanders under him. that put him at odds with the
white house. on that score, his tenure looks a bit like that of his spread skesz sorries, bill gates and leon panetta. which now leaves the president 0 for 3 in his quest for a apply yachbt secretary of defense. you have these names, ash carter, jack reid, the next secretary to be? reid is out, obviously the most qualified would be michelle flonoid. and enjoys a considerable representation as a defense intellectual and policymaker. i m not sure the president will pick her, she would be a great choice, but she s strong. and capable and will have her own set of views about what this country needs to be doing with its military establishment.
that might not be what the president s looking for, but she would be quite a choice. ash carter, perhaps as well. thank you, brit. this is a fox news alert, we now know the ferguson place grand jury decision will be released at 9:00 p.m. eastern time tonight. stay with fox news challenge for the latest developments. up next, republican s snipig against each other on the benghazi terrorist attacks. fox 8 in cleveland with the fatal police shooting of a 12-year-old boy. authorities say tamir rice was carrying what turned out to be a replica gun with an orange safety indicator removed. the deputy chief says the officer fired from less than 10 feet away. fox 29 in buffalo where fears of disastrous flooding from a rapid meltdown of the area s seven-foot snoechl are easing tonight. minor to moderate flooding has been reported at several creeks,
but nearby homes have been largely spared. and this is a live look at los angeles from our affiliate out there, fox 11. they re covering fatal tour bus crash near the oregon border sunday. the bus originated in los angeles. one man died, fraes 31 others were hurt. the same bus was involved in another accident earlier in the day. investigators say driver fatigue may have been a factor in both accidents. that s tonight s live look juice the beltway from special report. we ll be right back.
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bearing bad news, catherine harris reports tonight on the surprising findings. i think the report is full of crap. reporter: a strong reaction from republicans to house intelligence committee report into the 2012 benghazi terror attack. while the 27-page report was widely cited by the main stream media clearing the administration of wrong doing, it also found the state department and white house wrongly blamed an internet video for the terrorist assault. the cia s michael morrell who edited the talking points made a statement. we were talking about the demonstration and the video when it was clearly a terrorist attack. reporter: the report also documented there was no delay in sending a cia rescue team. i said, hey, we need to get over losing the initiative, you know, and bob just looked straight at me and said stand down, you need to wait. reporter: former cia defense
secretary leon panetta arzed the discrepancy with bill o reilly. mr. panetta, do you believe those men. ¤d believe them. report, the cia says it was not collecting weapons, but newly classified testimony buried in the appendiv confirms weapons were being moved from libya to syria. suggesting the program was a closely held secret. this report confirms that the u.s. government knew that to syria. this was the first time that s been disclosed to the american people. it s really an incredible development. now work for beacon global strategies, a company with deep ties to mrs. clinton. an drew shapiro, a former policy advisor at state.
5xn my bash, a former chief of staff and republican michael allen used to work for chairman a mike rogers whose house intelligence committee released the latest benghazi report. after fox raised questions in march about a potential conflict of interest, allen was no longer listedzñr as a beacon member online. to me this is an issue and something that the select into. reporter: the select committee september out a celebratory suspended evidence that there was no wrong doing. select committee republicans said they have been aware of the findings for months and their independent review continues. bret. still ahead, will, williams, krauthammer on the grand jury decision in ferguson. and the deadline, iran and the west decide not to decide on its nuclear program. cocoa or eggnog?
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iran and the west have agreed to keep disagreeing for a while longer. nuclear talk that were supposed to conclude today have been extended by another seven months, despite a huge push to strike some kind of a deal before the deadline. senior foreign affairs correspondent amy kellogg tells us what went wrong. reporter: there were six days of heavy duty diplomacy that brought in players from china to russia. the stakes are high for everyone, in the end, the negotiators rolled back iran s nuclear program for the first time in a decade.
secretary kerry said they have earned the benefit of the doubt to continue. the interim agreement wasn t violated. iran has held up its end of the bargain and the sanctions regime has remained intact. reporter: iran s president put a positive spin for his people. our nation during this period of talks has been reporter: the u.s. wants the number of iran s centrifuges reduced to the point where it would take iran a year to make enough fissile material for a bomb if it tried to make a mad dash something that iran swears it would never do. the reason it hasn t make those cut backs yet because it wants the ability to make a bomb some day if it feels it needs one. iran s program remains capped. they can t get to a nuclear weapon as long they re not
this is like a cease fire and a cease fire is to america s benefit. reporter: john kerry wouldn t go into the details of what concrete progress had been made in recent days he said to reserve some space for talks going forward. he said there will be a general flame work in place by january and a final deal by july. president obama has awarded the medal of freedom to an ecollective group of artists and others. actress meryl streep. ethyl kennedy, musician stevie wonder as well as tom brokaw. the dow and the s&p 500 today both set record closes, the industrial average was up eight, the s&p 500 gained 6, the nasdaq finished up 42.
chief political correspondent carl cameron looks and listens to the president s own words. reporter: president obama says he wants a democratic successor and will do everything possible to make it happen. i think the american people, they re going to want to have that new car smell. they want to drive something off the lot that doesn t have as much mileage as me. that seemedlike a slap at front runner hillary clinton who s been a controversial and polarizing political figure more than twice as long as president obama. nevertheless he said she would make a great president. she s not going to agree with me on everything and one of the benefits of running for president is you can stake out your own positions. reporter: but clinton s conspicuously avoided positions on hot button issues like the keystone xl pipeline, she stayed mum on immigration for weeks,
and tweeted her thanks only after the president deferred deportation laws for millions of unlawful immigrantses. said iran should be allowed little enrichment or no enrichment of uranium but otherwise steered clear. conversely, senator elizabeth warren stayed offstage over the weekend. with plans for stops in israel to meet with benjamin netanyahu as well as amman, jortd, all signs of populous efforts are expanding to include foreign policy as 2016 nears. nation foreign officially formed a presidential campaign exploratory committee. he s expected to be more hawkish than clinton, who s viewed as the right of many of her in the first primary state of new hampshire, 62% of like liz voters have backed clinton.
and neither of them became president. new hampshire primary voters are split on which party s nominee will care more about people like them, 46% say democrat, 49% say republican. the new hampshire hp poll shows a virtual three way tile with jeb bush at 16% and rachbd paul at 14. all right, carl. thank you. the head of the troubled phoenix veteran s hospital has been fired in the wake of the nationwide scandal over long wait times for health care and falsified records covering up the delays. sharon held mand was ousted nearly seven months after she and two high ranking officials were placed on administrative leave after allegations that 40 veterans died while waiting on treemtz. up naex the panel comes in early to discuss the ferguson case. we ll take you to missouri for breaking news as it comes in.
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this is a fox news alert. at the bottom of the hour, a grand jury in clayton, missouri has reached a decision about the shooting of an unarmed man by a ferguson police officer. we ll have live coverage. we re awaiting a news conference from the governor shortly. police, federal agents and the national guard are on alert in
the st. louis suburb for protests that many fear could turn vichlt they aolent. they are prepared. let s turn to our panel, george will, juan williams, columnist with the hill. and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. as we wait, what is going to happen here, this decision or nondecision, george, your thoughts? the or kes strags of this is to say no more a let it be known for no apparent reason that it had reached a decision and then to say to come back in three or four hours and we ll tell you what the decision adds to the tension. you have to wonder all the media attention to this, if there is a kind of self-fiulfilling nature of this coverage. the governor ur thoughts o
the situation as it s developing? i think you have some concern over governor nixon s decision, of course to declare a state of emergency, to send in the national guard at this point, whether or not that s inflaming a very anxiety provoking situation, i think for people well beyond ferguson, there s a sense that this is playing out as part of some national narrative. but i think the question for the grand jury, the widespread assumption is that there s not going to be an indictment. the question for the grand jury is why was this such a lengthy process, do we learn what was said to them at some point or don t we. george stephanopoulus talked a little bit about this this morning. he talked about how this was a fixable problem, it wasn t a systemic segregation or discrimination, i have heard that they will release
documents, they will explain what s behind the grand jury decision during the announcement at 9:00. i don t know why they would announce it at night and not wait until the morning. i ll turn it over to shepard smith as the governor is preparing to speak. reporter: i heard some questions during the commercial break, why is the governor speaksing now when there s no announcement until 9:00. my question is why is the governor speaking now when there s no decision until 9:00. waiting for a decision, but they are doing their best go about their daily lives, conduct their business and support one another and their community. i also spoke with a number of faith leader this is afternoon who offered their prayers for peace and safety. together, we are all focused on making sure the necessary resources ared a hand to protect lives, protect property, and protect free speech.
several churches will be providing save havens throughout the area to provide food, shelter and medical care. mental health providers have teamed up to help ease the emotional strain that these events have caused. these health professionals are working right now to provide counseling and other services to the people that need them. law enforcement officials continue to maintain open lines of communication with protest leaders to improve the interactions between police and demonstrators and prevent violence. i want to thank my director of public safety for taking part in these ongoing discussions. state and local law enforcement agencies are continuing to work hand in hand, to make sure the best, most experienced officers are on the street. the men and women of the national guard will also be in the area to provide security at critical facilities like fire houses, police station, and
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and then there are these stories that the president wants to change his national security team. is that true? well, you would have to ask the president. but do you concern yourself with it? no, first of all, i serve at the pleasure of the president. i don t get up in the morning worried about my job. well, he won t have that job for much longer, chuck hagel will be out as defense secretary and u.s. officials tell us that he s being pushed out by the obama administration. take a listen to senator john mccain on the radio show today. already the white house people are leaking, well, he wasn t up to the job. believe me, he was up to the job. it was the job that he was given where he really was never brought into that tight circle inside the white house that makes all the decisions which has put us into the incredible debacle that we re in today throughout the world.
what about mara? i think secretary hagel would have stayed longer, let s put it that way, the white house has gone through great pains to say that it was a mutual decision, i think the two men were friends, they bonded on the senate foreign relations committee. they may have come to this decision together, but this is not a case of the president asking the cabinet secretary to stay on when he wanted to go. but he did try to give chuck hagel a dignified sendoff and the mission has changed. chuck hagel was hired to downsize the pentagon and supervise the withdrawal of troops from iraq and afghanistan and now we re getting back into conflicts all over the place and they need somebody who can do it better. it also seems that in recent weeks, maybe months, chuck hagel was speaking out more about different things including the strength of isis, and other thoughts that put him at odds with the administration at some
times. speaking out is praised in the abstract and often in this town, it was somewhat surreal when nixon went on television and told the that they were the finest public servants i have never known and they re fired, leaving the country somewhat bewilders. -first you have to manage the building itself, this interlocking overlapping thief comes of civilians of military and interservice rival rises and all the rest. and then you have to deal with the military industrial complex that keeps foisting unwanted weapons on to the military service. then you have the myriad of cultural differences which grow as we fight wars with no and final lay you have and this probably goes to the heart of it with chuck hagel.
you have the constant attention with the national skurt apparatus in the white house, because every president about three month into his term ask convinask it seemed like the writing was on the wall as these stories started coming out that chuck hagel was disengaged at the nfc meetings and even when he did that interview with charles rose, he was already out. i these this is a situation with lots of backstage, back stabbing going on and it looks like the two primary players were the national security adviser assumption san rice and and chuck hagel and her team making the case that hagel wasn t up to the job, what you heart senator mccain refer to and then on the other side, hagel and his team saying, you know, we think the white house
being so hands on in trying to centralize control on what we re doing here are over the top and not doing a particularly good job of handling syria and isis. hagel is the last republican in the cabinet. the administration pushes back and says the veterans affairs secretary now is a person who supported republicans. you understand? yes, former republican lawmaker. hagel was over his head from the beginning, 234ib who watched his hearings knew that, he knew that. he was sort of a nonpresence for the first year or so. behind it he got tossed and again thrown under is bus because we actually spoke out and spoke the truth that the syrian policy was entirely inco-hernlt and he went p against the white house and against susan rice who were trying to manage the department of deef over his head. and when he stayed the truth, he criticized the administration. became can tolerate a lot,
cluelessness, incompetence, laziness, but not criticism, he had to go. more on hagel, and the lack of a nuclear deal with iran. remember that? we ll be right back. hey matt, what s up?
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interestingly, charles, when the president comes out today, at the exact same moment that he is with chuck hagel and vice president biden announcing this resignation, secretary kerry is across the world announcing that the deal with iran has fallen through. it is going to be pushed back delayed next year. what an amazing coin densz. there is no way they could have held on to hagel for another day or two. the reason is, they wanted a distraction from what is a complete failure. this extension. remember, 10 months ago we were told we were in the last ditch negotiation with iran. it would last six months, we would relax sanctions in order to encourage their cooperation, which, of course completely illogical. just the exact opposite. in six months, if we don t have a deal, if iran doesn t stop the program as we have demanded in six u.n. resolutions, then we will reimpose sanctions.
the president said the sanctions are reversible. what happens at the end incident dentally, congress insists on passing a bill that would say, after six months, sanctions are increased. we increase the pressure. which would be, incidentally, the only way you could ever get iran to cut back on the program. if you hurt its economy to the point where the regime thinks it s going to be ousted. it takes away all that pressure. what we get is a four month extension that ended yesterday. and what we got was announcement without any preparation of a seven month extension, which means the sanctions remain relaxed. the iranian economy is rebounding. the pressure on iran is diminishing and it gets closer and closer every week to acquiring a bomb. marah? you are saying the sanctions had already been relaxed. they are not going to be relaxed as a condition for going forward for seven months. they remain relaxed. they are getting weaker by the month. the white house believes it couldn t get any european cooperation in making them
tougher right now. and, what the white house is holding out for and i don t think they are going to get it in seven months. they didn t get it now. is this idea that iran will have a nuclear program that will take a year to quote breakout to get to the point they can make a bomb. i can t imagine they are going to get it in seven months. juan? the we the question becomes what happens in the interim. most prominently israel watching on the sidelines. very nervous about what the united states might agree to that they would find unacceptable in terms of the iranian capacity to ramp up quickly and to get a bomb. so, what does israel do now in the midst of all their tensions at home and what do the other players, who have been standing on the sideline, carping, including the arab countries but also in this country you hear lots of criticism from republicans who say obama is giving up the shots. not just republicans,
senators bob menendez and other democrats have stepped up as well. the whole idea from the obama administration perspective is and i don t think it s only obama. if you can get a deal here, this is a good thick. we should make every effort possible to bring iran into the global family. i think. losing sight of just how strange this is. is there any precedent in history for negotiations like this. the salt talks with the russians, we had a shared sem met industry of vocabulary. we talked about their number of missiles and our number of missiles. where ours were placed and where theirs were placed. we all agreed we had missiles. now we are having extraordinary negotiation about a nuclear weapons program that the other side says does not exist. and i mean, you laugh, it may be laughable. but, in fact, it s a very strange negotiation. do they get a deal in this now extended time? the administration
desperately wants a deal. it needs something to proclaim that it s had some success abroad where everything positions everywhere from russia to saudi arabia, to turkey everywhere are collapsing. it s trying to give away the store. but the iranians aren t saying no. because they are already continuing the rebuilding. the plutonium facility parallel program to uranium enrichment. that they have nothing to lose. all they care about are sanctions which are eroding as we speak. it s already export ago lot more oil than it s supposed to be allow of the nobody is complaining. why should the iranians agree? it would put a theoretical cap on their program. but they want everything. i think that they are right in estimating the weakness of this administration s negotiating position. you know, there is one new element in january when republicans take over the senate. i think they will be able to
pass something that says congress will have a say in this. and that s going to be hard to oppose. and because harry reid has prevented it from moving forward. yeah. why would the president allow congress to put the pressure on iran by passing a law saying if there is no agreement, we will then impose a sanctions and strengthen the sanctions. i do not understand what the logic is in not passing that to put pressure on iran. we have plenty of time to talk about it, until july of 2015. that s it for the panel. stay tuned for an insider perspective on last week s g-20 summit. woo who, woah, woah, woah. it s out there somewhere spreading the word about america s favorite potatoes: heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart association s go red for women campaign. if you see it i hope you ll let us know.
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10% are undocumented people who are here in the country. they are patriotic people. they deserve to be here. great contribution. that s it. special report is next. i think. i hope. lots of tweets coming. going to the people about going it alone. president obama prepares to explain to the nation why he is side-stepping congress on immigration reform. this is special report. good evening. bret baier is on assignment. we will hear from him shortly. first, we are two hours away from president obama s upcoming use on executive authority. to legalize illegal immigrants. we have fox team coverage at the capital looking at one of the key arguments democrats are making for the president s bold move. john rockets in boca raton with
arguments against it by some of the people who would like to replace the president in two years. but we begin with chief white house correspondent ed henry and a look at what president obama is expected to say tonight. good evening, ed. good evening, doug. the president will not sign any actual executive orders. instead they will instruct officials to take various actions. republicans say no matter what he calls it it s a power grab and they will stop it. pushing boundaries. president obama made a final decision to move forward with unilateral action this week after returning from asia. his speech writers put the final touches on tonight s primetime address, the president tried to wrap himself in the american flag. we want them to start businesses right here in the united states. that s what i ll be talking a little bit about tonight. keeping america proud and america strong. republican ted cruz quoted the roman philosopher cicero, to
charge, there s nothing american about this. we it alone, i say it openly, we, the senate, are waiting in our duty to stop this lawless administration and its unconstitutional amnesty. white house. adrian:s are already talking republicans, saying the the president cannot be stopped because u.s. citizenship and immigration services are funded with fees paid by applicants, not dollars appropriated by congress. of though republicans are vowing a way to cut off funds anyway. the resolve within our conference i believe both in the house and the new senate that will come into power is to stop this illegal action from taking place. what they are trying to stop are executive actions focused on protecting roughly 5 million illegal immigrants from deportation, including the parents of u.s. citizens and
green card holders, if those parents had been in america at least five years and expanding a 2012 deferred action program for kids that will allow more young people known as dreamers to stay in america, giving democrats a chance to cast it as humanitarian. we can t sit idly by while homes are broken up all across this nation. the the second act will be border security. gops attacks pointing out he has been weak in that area. and shipping resources for border patrol agents and i.c.e. personnel, tracking down illegal immigrants with felonies, gang members or tied to terror. democrats say that s a move to the gop and they should finish the job with legislation. republicans shouldn t get mad. they should get even. they should know by the president s executive order by passing our bill and passing it now. at a dinner honoring jack
kemp, republican paul ryan said those demands ran hole le since the president failed to act. he had full control of congress, super majorities in 2009 and 2010. did he lift a finger at that time? no, he didn t. he said i am as frustrated as anyone that congress is not doing its jobs. but the president shouldn t make such significant policy changes on his own. ed henry prepared for a potentially long night on the north lawn. the republican governors conference provided john rockets with one stop shopping. an added bonus, many of those talking may want to be president in just a home of years. here s john s report. i have no obligation to do the president s job. reporter: the immigration order might come from washington but the states will be left holding the bag. at a republican governors
meeting in florida are incensed about it. i think the president is being i responsible. and i know those are strong words. the fact is, i think the the president is being irresponsible. governor rick perrey, state of texas, took a wave of illegal migration last year. tens of thousands of families flooded the state forcing the govern o or to deploy precious law enforcement resources to the border. he fears the president s action will launch another wave. there will be another deluge with this announcement of amnesty is coming so hurry up and be a part of that. other governors, bobby jindal saying republicans should leave a government shutdown on the table. when he doesn t get the way, he violates the law, the constitution. granting defacto agency should give in-state tuition, driver s license, and more to
millions of illegal immigrants. they said the cost could be enormous. we re paying more in that area, that means less for schools, higher education, less money for the things we find to be important because of this move. walker believes the president is doing this to distract what they are doing. governor john kasich believes republicans may have to meet him halfway. i ve said it all along. i hope the republicans appealed to him to slow down. but what they have to say to him is we want to get something done on this issue as well. there could be an even bigger picture to the president s move. if he can split the factions in the republican party and stall reform, he could bring more latinos into the fold, giving democrats a better shot to take back the senate and win the white house in 2016.
doug? thank you, john. the president s people are not unprepared for charges that he is exceeding his executive authority. mike emmanuel looks at the central argument that this has all been done before by republicans. look to ronald reagan, your hero. look what he did to keep families united. numerous times in recent weeks democrats have compared what president obama is doing with immigration to former presidents reagan and bush 41. a leading senate democrat took it a a step further. republicans who are criticizing for this executive action ignore the fact that 11 previous presidents have done exactly the same thing. using their executive authority to trace the issues of immigration. yet some experts note mr. owe bam a ma is going against the will of congress which rejected the dream act several times, while reagan and bush made administrative actions.
there is no difference between what president obama is doing and what president reagan and president did. president reagan acted unilaterally to allow minor children of those receiving amnesty to receive protection from deportation. in 1990, president bush deportation of spouses and children legalized by the 1986 law. here we have a president who has no law, who says he doesn t care whether congress passes the law. so in the case of presidents reagan and bush, they were actually building upon a law that congress had passed. there is also a difference in numbers. some describe as a nominal addition to the 2.7 authorized by legislation. bush 41 s action affected up to 1.5 million. while mr. obama is expected to be more than 5 million people. it is analogous to mention reagan and bush. they did do executive orders on
behalf of the illegal immigration problem. after bush took action, congress pafld a 1990 immigration act to make a family unit permanent. it is not clear if a new congress will be able to follow mr. obama s lead. thank you. health and human services sylvia burwell said numbers are unacceptable. she tweeted that out after republicans discovered 400,000 individuals who signed up for medical and dental coverage through obama care exchanges were counted twice. that lowers the total announced from the 7.1 million to 6.7 million. stocks are up today. the dow gained 33. s&p 500 finished ahead four. nasdaq up 26. how china could literally turn out the lights on your family. first, here s what some of our fax affiliates are covering.
in tallahassee, florida, a campus on fsu. a gunman wounded three before he was killed by police. he went to law school in texas and he believed the government was after him. fox 31 in denver. a voluntary recall of 5 million strollers by graco. they have external sliding fold lock hinges that can pinch or cut off a child s finger. get more information from the consumer product safety commission website. this is a live look from fox 2. the big story, the wait continues for a grand jury decision on critical charges against a white police officer who fatalitily shot an unarmed african-american man in ferguson last august. the governor has already declared a state of emergency and put the national guard on alert. that s tonight s live look
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hrrpling news from the new man at the nsa. he said china a few other countries could mount cyber attacks to cut off your lights and cut your power. it was a stark and blunt assessment from the new director of the nsa, mike rogers, publicly confirmed what has been widely discuss privately by the intelligence community. a handful of nations, including china, have the the capacity to shut down the u.s. power grid with a cyber attack. there shouldn t be any doubt in our minds there are nations, states and groups that have the capability to do that. to enter those industrial control items and shut down and stall our ability to operate our basic infrastructure. cyber intrusions and
espionage are a special unit of the peoples liberation army housed in a 12-story building in suburb answer shanghai. nsa director rogers said he supports attacking emergency response systems off-limits. and he warned a cat traffic event is all but assured in the next decade and the u.s. must go on the offensive. being on the defensive is a totally losing strategy to me. it will cost a significant amount of money. it leads to a much decreased emissions success. it is not a good outcome for us in the long run. a bill to end the controversial collection of american phone records stalled in the senate. he said the pluck collection continues but the nsa needs a court ordery to query the
database. five detainees were transferred from guantanamo bay, to georgia and slovakia. these detainees were described today as being low risk. but as fox reported earlier this week, a low risk detainee released in 2005 is now the main recruiter for isis in pakistan, doug. we ll see what becomes of them. catherine, thank you you re welcome. secretary of state john kerry is holding out hope for a last minute deal with iran over its nuclear program. they are trying to beat a self imposed program. iran wants an end to crippling economic sanctions. . israel is moving ahead with plans to demolish the homes of the palestinians who killed four people at a synagogue on tuesday. demolition notices were given to families just today. israeli leaders are reviving what had become a rarely used punishment in the wake of some
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involving the so-called obama phone program. tax-payer funded cell phones are supposed to be available to low income americans. a tv news producer in los angeles found getting a free phone is really easy even if you do not qualify. many contractors task with enrollment to the life line program earn a commission for new sign ups. various workers suggested the producer have someone qualified order for her or use someone else s i.d. or use a fraudulent social security number. one of the vendors said it audits sign-ups and the employees caught on tape have been fired. you the tax payer now paid a group of worksers at the epa more than a million dollars to stay home and not work. an inspector general found eight employees were on paid ranging from four months to four and a half years, tallying up 20,000 hours of pay.
acceptable reasons for leave include attending funerals, voting, inclement weather, donating blood and disciplinary actions. there are no parameters on how long is too long to be on paid leave. and finally mattel is apologizing for a book that depicts barbie as a helpless girl, clueless when it comes to computer. i could be a computer engineer tells the story of barbie. but to make the game work she has to call in the boys. i m only creating design ideas. i need steven and brian s help to turn it into a real game. barbie then proceeds to download a virus onto her computer, which she spreads to her sister s laptop. that s when the boys swoop in to save the day and fix the computer. reviews of this book are not kind to say the least. mattel is saying going forward its books will portray an empowered barbie.
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pence who took his name out of the governors. he wants to serve the people of innen. but he may have other motivations. i love cutting ribbons in the state of indiana. and we do a lot of it. for the governor, the number of ribbon cuttings is in his mind a solid measure of indiana s success. one, two, three. and lately he s been doing plenty of them across his state. on this day, a brand-new career and technical education academy for high school students. and then a visit to a local manufacturing small business. what a cool place. in recent months, indiana has led the nation in manufacturing growth. its unemployment rate is now just below the national average. you have a powerful story to tell in indiana already. the economy is kind of booming here. indiana is a state that works. because we have been putting
common sense into practice in our state over much of the last 10 years. i don t think our state budget should ever grow faster than the family budgets in the state of indiana. so we held the line on spending in our first budget to the average rate of inflation the last 10 years. on education and the national standards known as common core that have been under attack, especially in conservative circles. i m proud of the fact that indiana was the first state to legally withdraw from the national standards of common core. now we are the only state to have gone through the process of writing our own standards. now critics who say it is really kind of like common core but you say it is separate. i believe education is a state and local function. he represented indiana as a congressman for a decade serving as chairman of the house republican conference. and on the house foreign relations committee. an assignment that took him around the world. and to iraq and afghanistan
multiple times. what is your sense about the administration s foreign policy overall, and specific areas where you think republicans have a chance to differentiate. when you see the erosion of america s credibility on the world stage, the american people know we have to change course overseas. we ve got to provide the kind of leadership that will once again make it clear that america will stand by our allies. and we will confront our enemies. i think it would be wise for whoever our nominee would be to make it clear that the american people before the election that their national security and foreign policy team would be. it was a health care issue, not foreign policy, that he confronted president obama with, right on the tarmac when he visited indiana early october. specifically expanding and
extending the state s healthy indiana plan. you button holed the president when he was e coming down air force one on the tarmac. it was a good five, seven minutes. i think obama care needs to be repealed, lock, stock and barrel. one of the first actions i took was saying indiana would not set up a state-based exchange. we have a healthy indiana plan. it requires people eligible for medicaid in indiana to make a monthly contribution to their own health savings account. it is built on a foundation of personal responsibility. when you hear somebody saying this is indiana s bow bama care. we ruled out traditional medicaid. sit a deeply flawed system that ill serves people that are enrolled in it. pence is pro life and in favor of traditional marriage. as the american public seems
to shift, should a nominee shift? i will always believe marriage is between one man and one woman. i respect the law. i respect the role of the courts and our form of government. in 2010, pence was the top choice for president in a straw poll conducted by the value voter sum, edging out former governors mike huckabee and mitt romney. i m a christian, conservative, and republican, in that order. just weeks later, though, he told us he wasn t rung. are you considering a run? i have no plans to run for president in 2012. but this time around, will he or won t he questions are surfacing again. can he raise money? he doesn t quite have a national profile yet. can he develop that? i think he has potential. pence would have a lot of
support among the people who vote in republican primaries and caucuses. he would have trouble in one respect. he has been out of the washington scene for quite some time. the biggest pro for mike pence is being governor. this is a great year to be a governor when washington looks as dysfunctional as ever. here s what we come back with. is a guy who is very successful, has foreign policy experience, capitol hill experience, now executive experience. but does he have the sizzle to be able to run for president? when you hear that, do you hear it? do you have the thing that is the selling point for running for president? when people mention me for the highest office of the land, i m deeply humbled by that. i think the service i can offer is continue to be governor of a
state that works. later we walk around pinelake to find out what makes mike pence mike pence. you group up here in columbus, indiana. i did. born and raised. and where did you meet your wife? i met my wife at a church in indianapolis. she s the light of my life. it will be 30 years next year. in his spare time, pence focuses on family. horseback rides. he calls himself an unapologetic colts fan. karen describes her husband as a strong optimistic leader with a great ability to listen. how are you? while he is a deliberate decision maker they never expected they would be where they are today, never mind on a list of white house hopefuls. when he was in congress, they would say where do you see yourself in 10 years? he would say, home for dinner. as for down the road? who knows in the future.
what is your biggest vulnerability. i m a content man. one time my brothers teased me because i didn t shine my shoes. he said you re not going to go anywhere in those shoes. i said i like it here. that contentment and focus on indiana is where i will remain. we ll let my future take care of itself. that was bret baier in the 2016 series. meanwhile, former virginia senator jim webb launched an exploratory committee to consider a run at the democratic presidential nomination. hillary clinton has considered can the front-runner among the unannounced democratic field, of course. . breaking news for football fans out there in the wake of this week s historic snowstorm in western new york. a source close to the nfl tells us that sunday s scheduled game at buffalo will be shifted monday to either detroit or toronto.
buffalo s ralph wilson stadium is buried under five and a half feet of snow and more snow is on the way. the bills have had to cancel practices the past two days. president obama prepares to explain himself on immigration reform. we ll preview the speech with our panel when we come right back.
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an alert now. we have been handed excerpts of the president s speech. let s get right to them. first, this is going to the character of the humanitarian component of the president s executive action. that s the real amnesty leaving this the way it is. mass amnesty would be unfair. mass deportation would be both impossible and contrary to our character. i am describing a common sense middle ground approach. you could come out of the shadows and get right with the law. if you re a criminal, you ll be
deported. if you plan to enter the u.s. illegally, your chances of getting caught and sent back just went up. let s look at a few bullet points with the president s executive action. it provides amnesty for up to 3.7 million parents. 1.5 million under revised law for a total of 5.2 million. those figures, by the way, from the migration policy institute. it would focus on deporting fell ones not families. it would streamline immigration court proceedings and provide criminal background checks and a tax base from those who are now illegal. judge andrew thnapolitano. well, if ever there was a honeymoon on which i will it has officially ended. charles, let s start with you. well, they don t do much right now.
because it is the senate remains in the hands of the democrat. i think the republican leadership is going to try to do is make sure the republicans in the congress don t lose their heads. this is an occupant attempt to distract the republicans to enrage them, and to put them into something that will undo the victory they had on election day. this is a way to make the president relevant and make them central. after all, what have we been talking about the last week or so? not the election, not a republican agenda. but this. and it seems to me what the republicans have to do is wait until they get control of the congress to deal with this but not to allow this to override the one imperative. when they get control next year, to have an agenda to pass items that are very important to ordinary americans like tax
reform, energy, enlargement, et cetera and not allow this to be a distraction. they cannot reverse this more than they did with obama care and the first shutdown. i have to say even though i sound awful i think i am still of sound mind. it gets to the heart of this under the spending bill and the potential for a government shutdown. right. they have a few choices. they can actually try to write a new bill while the democrats still control the senate. it has new funding allotments for the remaining fiscal year. you are hearing an attempt to get another continuing resolution, a stop gap measure. keep everything funded at the same levels and try to get out of town. republicans take the congress back in january with when they could actually manage the books
and force their own priorities into the budget process. that now is the big question. how long do you fund the government? do you make it short to come back and use their leverage. or as some in the leadership want, do you extend through september 30th to get that fight off the books. they re under tremendous pressure to make it short so they can come pack in january and start using the power of the purse for their priorities. there is an internal debate, how do you deal with immigration and how do you deal with many policy items without having a huge budget fight as soon as they re in control. you made the point last sunday, every time there is a government shutdown, republicans bear the blame. a year ago a poll showed at the time of that government shutdown at that time, republican favorability rating was 30%. unfavorable rating, 63%. they don t want to return to those. you re right. bret as usual is right.
but i m not sure that would happen the next time. we all know the government runs out of its ability to pay money on december 8th or thereabouts. i may not have the right date. the leadership wants to extend it to september 30th. if it is extended just until january or february and the new republican senate and the knupp republican house has to address this. it sends a reasonable, meaningful message to the president but one that does not give him all the money he wants. and he vetoes that, i don t know if that will will go to the detriment of the republicans. honestly, i agree. i don t think the republican leadership is up for this fight. and i agree with charles. the republicans have to pick their fight. they cannot necessarily accept the bait the president gives them. and he is going to lay out the bait tonight. will we see a new mass migration from central america? senator rubio said oftentimes these are misinterpreted in
central america. you don t have to misinterpret it. this is a a gigantic neon sign on the rio grand saying to central americans and to other people around the world, if you wait in line and apply for legal eupl operation, you re asap. you come here legally, you have children, and eventually you will be legalized. this will cause a complete new cohort. we will have 11 million new illegal immigrants in 10 or 15 years, we will be through this again and again. i would not oppose this if we were going to be serious about shutting the border. there is no seriousness whatsoever coming out of the administration or the democrats on that. this is an invitation to a mass migration. more with the panel on this very same subject after a quick break. i m j-a-n-e and i have copd. i m d-a-v-e and i have copd. i m k-a-t-e and i have copd,
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39 different executive actions have taken place since eisenhower impose his will unilatterally. he will rebuke to his own stated view of democracy. we are prepared to assert a legal action against the president. we believe what the president is doing is completely unconstitutional? there you have it. the governor elect of texas promising a lawsuit against b. this unilateral executive action. he is not the only one. we have just gotten word that oklahoma attorney
general scott pruitt also promises a lawsuit. he says in a statement if the president takes an executive action that violates his constitutional duty to faithfully immigration immigration laws by congress we will take action to hold him accountable. before we get to the panel one more excerpt of the president s speech which has just been handed to it quote the actions i m taking are not only lawful they are the kind of actions taken by every single republican president and democratic president by for the past half century. those members of congress who question my authority to make our immigration system work better or question the wisdom of me acting where congress has failed. i have one answer, pass a bill. judge? you think it s unconstitutional? the president s power is profoundly unconstitutional. here is why. the president has the prosecutorial. ratchet up or ratchet town what the. [ laughter ] is going to do. he says ratchet down the deportations.
ronald reagan did that. george h.w. bush can do that. he can do that for a class of people. a small class of people. 100,000 here. 100,000 there. when he does it for half the foreign nationals who are are in this country illegally, the practical effect of that is not just nullifying their deportations, it s nullifying the law. it s rewriting the law. when he says i won t deport you if you do a, b, c, d, and e, which he is going to say in a few hours answered makes up the a, b, c, d, and e, it doesn t come from the congress. is he rewriting the law. it s a matter of scale? it s a matter of degree. absolutely. the president can say i m not going to deport women over 8 a or women of child bearing years. when he says i m not going to deport half the million here. violate the law. a.b., that raises the question of where do you draw the line if it s a matter of scale and matter of degree? right. there is no precedent for that. this is largely untested in the courts. and it will go there to be
decided. but, it is the judge is right. it has never happened for so many people. now, the other thing is is that it is-what is the definition of faithfully execute? it s obviously in the eye of the beholder. the president is going to talk a lot tonight about accountability, about them paying taxes, getting into the system. but it is amnesty because it is forgiveness. it is technically forgiveness of law-breaking. so we re going it see this played out. what s interesting is that the polling shows support for what the president is doing, just not the way in which he is doing it. so, as we look to this thing being reviewed in the courts, it will be interesting to see politically what s happening in the next 2, 4, 6 weeks. maybe republicans in congress don t pick a fight on this. maybe it becomes more popular in six weeks in the polls. maybe it doesn t and hillary clinton at some point has to announce in eight weeks she is running for president and doesn t know what to say. i think we have no idea because of the that says
most of the country is with this permitting, this forgiving. this is not doing it by fiat. if this goes to the courts, charles, the president may be his own worst enemy given the compilation he has made against executive action. well, it s amazing string of statements he has made for years. remember, he has control of the congress in 2009 and 2010 where he can do this through legislation, he doesn t lift a finger. then for the next four years he repeats again and again that this would be imperial, monarch yawl outside of the constitution. not. now all of the sudden he discovers these other cases. as the judge says, it s not actually a matter are of scale. it s completely undermining the intent of the law as written. the law says if you come here illegally you aren t allowed to stay. and you certainly aren t allowed to work. in fact, the prohibition on work is so strong that if anybody hires an illegal alien, the state will punish the person hires them.
all of a sudden, obama is going to issue a permit to allow these people to work? it s the complete undermining of the law and we writing of the law. i think if it ends up in the courts, the courts will rule strockly against the president because, otherwise, any president can rewrite any law at any time by saying i waited long enough. i m tired of waiting. do what i tell you, or i will enact a new law myself. that s going to do it for the panel. stay tuned for recap of this week s truly extreme weather.
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it s expected to get an additional three feet by tomorrow morning. this is nothing though compared to the extreme condition cans that hit southern california. in florida ranch tonight palm streets don t sway, they bend much the windy first alert forecast wasn t just bluster. winds make street signs hard to read. gusts after gusts pummel roses and send leaves flying. mother nature ushering in the santa anas with the when i will in the night air. at wal-mart in porter ranch, shoppers doing their best it keep warm. i m usually still in shorts and today i have to put on pants. [ laughter ] our hearts go out to those poor, poor people. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. special report fair balanced and unafraid. greta goes on the record now. make sure you stay on the fox news channel tonight for the president s prime time address on immigration at 8:00 p.m. eastern. you will get the address and the analysis all right here

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. we do have an obligation to work on issues where we can agree him i think we have a duty to do that. just because we have a two of party system doesn t mean we have to be in perpetual conflict. i think i ve shown that to be true at critical times in the past. i hope the president gives me a chance to show it again. that is the senate majority leader of the united states senate mitch mcconnell, whose
republican party has swept control of the party. they did it in battleground states thought to be tighter than they actually were. so far the gop gained seven seats. it wasn t even close in kentucky where mitch mcconnell beat his opponent allison lundgren-grimes. in iowa, joni ernst beat congressman bruce braley. another big win was in north carolina, thom tillis unseated kay hagan. in arkansas, not close, tom cotton, blasted mark prior. democrat mark udall has fallen to congressman cory gardner in colorado. the stunner of the night was georgia. which was expected by most to go to a january runoff. you knew it was going to be a bad night when the democrats made it look ease against sam nunn. in kansas, pat roberts survives being down in a hole to
independent greg orman. shelly moore capito won the senate. steve daines is being sent to the senate in montana. in south dakota, mike rounds. in new hampshire, it s a lone bright spot for democrats where jeanne shaheen survived. scott brown challenged. alaska still undecided, but republican dan sullivan is holding on to a narrow lead over democratic senator mark beckich who has ed to concede. an extraordinarily close night in virginia. you knew, you knew it was going to be a long night. they saw incumbent mark warner, the apparent winner facing
republican ed gillespie did not concede in his speech to supporters. even the real clear polls have this at a ten point margin. good morning, everybody. it is wednesday, november 5th. it was a long night. i cried all night. it was a great night in many ways. we have a mark halperin and former senior adviser to david obama, david axelrod. everyone has been up all fight. they are also with us, former chairman of the republican national committee michael steel and jeremy peters, a great audience with us this morning. a fantastic audience. good morning. so you, i got to say, we ll go around the table real quick before we get into the details. are you good at this. you called it before. if we have a certain runoff, you might have nailed that time. 53. i predicted 53 the hill, the middle guessing game every
couple years. i guessed 53. i will tell you why. this was a really surprising election, a lot different than a couple years ago a. lot different in terms of a couple years ago, because there was no late break. a lot of people to the romney was going to get the late break. he didn t do it. it seemed to be poll driven. there is no doubt the last couple of days, david axelrod, there was a wave. and, you know, i made the predictions, but didn t really have the courage and my convictions only because the polls all showed so many of these races to be so tight even the polls were wrong or there was a late break for the republicans. in that sense, it is like two years ago. we had discussions about that then. look, i think one thing that i also expected to be surprised on the high side rather than the low side. i thought it was 53, 54. a lot of people were talking
it would be 50 or there was going to be a wave and it was going to be 53, 54. you know, to me, when you have seven states or six states in which obama lost by an average of 19 points in 2012. right. you have democratic incumbents in an off year election, both to me, i was ready to write those off. the top you are ready to write those off, though, but colorado, iowa. then you look at the governor s race the republican party basically won the big ten. i mean, they now control wisconsin, michigan. illinois, ohio. that s pretty remarkable. it was a big fight. democrats won pennsylvania. that was the one consolation there. but it was a very very big night. mark halperin, what happened? the republican wins were really big. right. most these races were not close. the undecided voters, the ones up for grabs. i think this is why you saw the pollsters in some instance, democrats have looked at it and
said a lot of the undecided voters had the job performance of the president. the ones they were fighting for at the end. what did you think was a surprise? ed gillespie and virginia coming close. illinois governor, home state, president s home state. what about maryland the bluest of blue states? in that race, maryland has elected a governor recently. the democratic campaign was one of the worst run. martin o malley. illinois, now having a republican governor makes a big difference for the party. let hope for him that the illinois governor he doesn t go to jail like every other. that would be nice. he has a 50% chance of staying out of prison. four of the last nine. 50%. it was funny last night, a lot of bun dits were having trouble being the wave.
i was the one later on, i amended my view. we had like north carolina, like that was going to go to kay hagan, i will tell you, it was obvious, it wasn t only a wave it was massive, you have republicans winning in massachusetts, illinois, in maryland. that is you have three groups the house the senate and the governor races in the house, which we haven t talked about yet. it looks like the republicans have held the most seats. in the senate, we were talking about 13 contested races. right now the republicans can talk about arkansas. and they probably will. the governor s race, we talked
about florida, wisconsin came through for the republicans, maryland and illinois, it sounds like a wave to me. it s hard to do much better. looking at the numbers, the pollsters were giving democratic candidates far too much credit. nate silver broke down some of the races. he looked at the weighted polling averages before tuesday s vote and compared them to the end results. the polls gave tom cotton a six-point edge in arkansas when his actual margin of victory was 17 points. that means the polls had an 11-point bias in favor of the democrats t. same proved true in kansas, kentucky and georgia to name a few. michael, still, the polls, some were terribly wrong two years ago. i didn t even mention gallops names for a couple years. in 2012, if i hold every other pollster to that standard, there are a lot of polls i can t look
at polling has become difficult. most major pollsters got it wrotening. they did. there are a lot of reasons for that. a lot of it is due to technology. people are communicating differently. cell phones. people talk about being able to access voters through the cell phone process. it s very difficult to do and i think a lot of it is voters just are keeping these kind of elections close to their vest. they re just not willing to put it all out there as they once were, talk about, oh, this is what i intend to do. because they re evaluating and being much more critical in their thinking. there is a reason these races are so tight. looking at what happened in maryland and illinois and places like that, where the expectation was, you know, the status quo. a lot more was going on at the grass roots level in kitchen tables around those states that was not reflective in any polling that was being taken. i think that the real clear average has brown, lt. gov.
brown up 9 points in any poll they would take. he loses by 9. that s an 18-point swing that it was not captured in the polling. david axelrod. michael, let me just say about illinois. that wasn t as big as pat quinn is a great friend of mine. i love him. i m sorry he lost, his approval rating never got above the mid-30 throughout this race. he was really defying gravity throughout race. all the polls had it rather close. he ended up losing by four-and-a-half or 5 points. that was less shocking than the other results last night. we have jeremy peters. i could actually wall paper all of the castlings in ver sigh with newspaper clippings and blog posts of how extreme and rad cam the house republican party has been over the past two years and how it s terrible for washington and terrible for america and lo custers will descend from the heavens. they will eat the flesh out of every republican member there, they are such hard, miserable
beasts. that s on par. no, it s not, actually, i literally could. and yet, huge gains for republicans and in the house of representatives, they have a historic advantage in the house, in the u.s. house this morning. that s right. they look like they ve had the biggest advantage they ve had since world war ii. now, it s interesting, because, usually, what majority parties will do when they try to add to their numbers is jam it down the opposition s throat. what boehner was trying to do, to get a sizable majority that he could more effectively deal with his fractured tea party conference. right now one of the big questions looming over john boehner and his legacy which as speaker right now has been defined by dysfunction is whether or not he will be able to bring the tea party in line and get the big ticket agenda items done that he needs to get
done like tax reform. you know, mica, one of the things that surprised me last night coming from the republicans. yeah. was how much they have learned actually from the mistakes of 2012 and even before that. a big scene is the party of obstruction. you look at cory gardner s speech last night. hold on. come on. i know you want to say something. they have learned their lesson. not if you listened to ted cruz last night. stop using ted cruz. seriously, stop using ted cruz as an example. he is the boogieman for liberals in the northeast. cory gardner last night goes out. he doesn t talk about this great conservative wave. instead, what does he do? he talks about how washington is broken, how people want washington working again. how they want deals done. early in the evening, a lot of people surprised by mitch mcconnell s graciousness. very gracious.
it was a really nice speech. an extremely gracious speech. graciousness. you did not hear that in 2010. you didn t hear what you usually here in these election years from the main players, the big players that won. i completely agree with you and i to the they were very disciplined across the board with their remarks. discipline, they have not been. the question is really now in the execution, what is the need in. exactly. the issue is as much can republicans overcome republicans and whether the president and the republicans can get along. tehran a whole campaign, spent an awful lot of money telling people they re against obama. they have to opivot and in their faces aren t all satisfied. they are happy with those results. i will get to the governors in just a second. let s work this down. you are misunderstanding me. i hope you are right. i really do.
i m not completely sure for exactly what david axelrod just said. that s all. i m old enough, unfortunately. so am i. i got elected 20 years ago yesterday and i remember when i drove into washington i thought, this is our time. we are a permanent conservative majority. we got bumped two years later. karl rogue made the same mistake in 2004. right. democrats made the same mistake in 2006 the same mistake in 2008. republicans made the same mistake in 2010, democrats in 2012. i am hoping in 2014 my party has learned the lessons. they don t own walk. not even close. they are leasing washington for two years on capitol hill. and i ve heard it from one republican after another. yes, it will be great if we win. if we don t get anything done if 2015, we will lose again in
2016. i swear we are saying the same thing. go ahead. except i m not rolling my eyes. and i m not wearing a black dress. that was last night. okay. i m going to say the question is what is the thing to get done? and that is something that has to get worked out. do you lead with immigration reform, xl pipeline or repeal of obamacare? right. i think or do you have. by the way. ramp up conversations by impeachment. that s the balance between the senate and the house. ted cruz wants to say mitch mcconnell will not have the first, sec, third, fourth or fifth bill in the senate, meaning the impeachment, being obamacare or even talking about investigations. ted cruz can have his press conferences. i don t say this in a demeaning way. i am running for president of the united states from the senate floor. mark halperin, real quick.
the signals the white house is sending so far i think are exact opposite of what mcconnell and gardner knows. officials tells split core you got to worry about your liberal base. you see the wall street journal reporting definitively. the president is not going to change staffing or his policy orientation. it s true republicans will have some problems coming toke. but if the president s prosture is no changes in personnel or policy or outlook or relationships, i don t think it can get done. it s very early. i mean, this is a big shock. it s a big win. let s give it to them. let s be gracious. let s wait a week or two. aren t we? before judging what the president will do. i squarely hope for the same thing you do. as we mentioned, republicans are also celebrating big wins in governor s races across the country. the victories include pickups in several democratic states, president obama s home state of illinois has elected a new governor, bruce rauner.
massachusetts also went red with charlie baker defeating martha cokely. in maryland, republican larry whogan upset antony brown a. republican is once again leading arkansas after republican asa hutchinson defeated pike ross by double digits. also, republicans maintained the governor s mansions in several closely watched races in the most expensive gubernatorial race in the nation. incumbent rick scott defeated the fan guy charlie crist by a little more than 1%. i m sprieded by thsurprised by actually. people in florida say rick scott ran an extraordinary campaign. dear lord. since he was elected, it was an extraordinary campaign. but you know, willie, looking at these governor s races, what i have been saying all along, if republicans won, they would be holding serve.
this year it s not in red states. two years from now they will be not in blue states. but you look at the governor s races, you look at florida, which brought morale. you look at illinois. you look at wisconsin. there you go, defeated scott walker in wisconsin defeated democrat mary burke. it s the third victory in four years for the possible 2016 candidate who beat back a recall challenge back in 2012. we re excited about the next four years, we re excited that they tried to do with the groups out of washington who wanted it to be against something, we were for something. we were for a better wisconsin, for a better schools, for a better university system. for a better technology system, for a better economy, for a better future for our children and our grandchildren. since scott walker weathers another storm the recall, this is a close race, a tight race,
some saying it could be the end of his political career. now all that changes on a dime. he wins another section. people will continue to talk about him as a presidential candidate. and neighboring michigan governor rick spieder was reelected to a second term. jason carter, former president jimmy carter s grandson. the ebola guy, he won on ebola. he did. he won a close race in maine. wendy davis lost to greg abbott. not being gracious this morning on twitter to wendy davis. wendy davis was set up to lose that race. no democrat was going to win that race. a big sock, sam brownback actually reports of his death greatly exaggerated. sam brownback wins. still no clear winner in vermillion. let s go back to wisconsin. is anybody going to find another
conservative in america that s as conservative as scott walker who can win wisconsin three times in four years? please, give me their names. because chris christie would get about 3% there. i think this is an incredible feat. i am interested to hear what you think about his future. obviously, his name gets tossed out a lot. for a higher office. to do it in a pretty blue state three times, it s a remarkable thing to achieve. do you think he s got his eyes on bigger things? i think certainly he will take a look at it now. not to diminish his wins. this is still a state where he did not face in these elections a tough opponent the woman he is running against turned out not to be a very good candidate. he did win. no, no, no, you can t understate that. i don t know why you would even say that this morning. it s not a major league okay. and the unions went after him. i mean, listen, i m a guy it was
a saying that his future was in great jeopardy t. guy has won there three out of four times. there is no buts to this. in the context of the presidential campaign, he will face much tougher opponents than he faced in this race. i think we will find out now. still ahead on morning joe the chairman of the democratic campaign, steve israeli, senator j jerry moran and u.s. snof elect will join us. you are watching morning joe. we will be right back. it s not about how many miles you can get out of the c-max hybrid. it s about how much life you can fit into it.
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joe. republican candidates successfully ran against the president. his approval rating plunged ten points from the year he won
re-election. it wasn t just the president felling the heat. 54% of the respondents to our exit poll say the government is trying to do too many things that ought to be left to businesses and individual. the economy remains a major concern. 70% responded saying the economy is not in good shape. taking a look at the key senate races. in new hampshire, it appears scott brown s residency remained an issue helping senator jeanne shaheen win re-election there. in georgia, michelle nun could not run far enough in the obama administration with 36% of voters there saying they used tear senate vote as a rebuttal. by the way, if georgia, you have an economy that s one of the weakest in the nation. they probably were feeling that and you are going to blame that on the sitting president, whether it s a republican or a democrat. a lot of people, most people predicted a runoff there. so i, in my predictions, i got everything right except this
race where i said it would go to a runoff and actually michelle nun would win. this is an example. i try to tell people this sometimes. i got elected in a wave election. i always say, you got elected, we lost in 92. i would have lost in 96. sometimes waves carry candidates that are weaker over the finish line. sometimes they boat back really good candidates. let s make no mistake of it. initial nun won a great race. win? she didn t win. you d be hard pressed to find a democrat who would have lost there. clinton nun. i would be careful comparing exit polls with a mid-term election with a general election presidential year it s an entire different election. that s a part of the story of this election. it was not in red state t. turnout is a third less than what you get in a presidential election. it s a much different profile. we re a mid-term country and a presidential country. we really are.
even in the states that i talked about where it was not in the blue states, we ve said it before, we ll say it again, this election this six-year election, the voters are older. they were wider. they re more conservative and this big win, this massive win for the republican party suggests that maybe as we move forward and the electorate expands, we may have a competitive race in 2016. a total different match. any republican that wants the results ahead of 16. i think all those guys making consilltory speeches recognize 2016 is a different ball game. seven sitting republican governors in blue state. they have a real impotence to try to change their. by the way, willie, they learned their lesson from 2010. another night, conservatism won. liberalism failed. they get stumped two years
later. they ve learned their lesson. i think this action will be productive in two years. let s take a look at kentucky. allison lundgren-grimes and there was a sizable gender gap if colorado. men favored republican cory gardner by 14 points. 59-45. senator mark udall won the fe pail vote by that same margin. mer my, what do you make of this? i think you have to wonder when democrats pull back on the war on women, i mean, clearly, you can do the trick in colorado. it was not as helpful there as it would be in north carolina. i think democrats right now are kind of in a reassessment mode as to whether or not the same playbook tehran if 2010 and 2012
will be effective in 2016. it wasn t effective in 2014. also, we had mary landrieu say that gender and race were two things driving things. there are a lot of people that rolled their eyes. we had yesterday they suggesting race was a huge issue in the south and that s one of the reasons democrats are doing badly. he comes from the state that elected. reelected and indian american woman and an african-american male. right. well state wide. let s not read too much into that. i think the wait, i m sorry, jeremy, why wouldn t you read too much into that? go ahead. there s one white state wide senator and there is a black state wide senator and there is an indian american who is governor, who just got reelected.n i think it s okay when somebody suggests this as racist that they take a close look at where the civil war began.
a, i don t think that s what mary landrieu said. i think she said blacks and women historically have had a more difficult time in the south. second of all, i think the country is as polarized along racial and political lines as ever. one of the more interesting results last night in the house races is john borrow, the last white democrat in the dopamine south defeated by a republican. that shows you, these parties had settled into their more left leaning and right leaning locations. i just want to say one thing on this war on women. one of the things we do wrong in politics is we sit on the back of the truck. we see what happened in the last election. exactly. we facilitate it as if it s all transferrable. that s not the way it works. they emphasized it not to the degree of udall. they say it worked then, it will
work now. we hit these issues in 2012. it was very targeted. it wasn t the thrust of our campaign. exactly. they made us the thrust of our campaign. in 94, i got elected. you know, i would go in and close founding fathers who have these quotes about god and government, but i would start when i went into the church. i said, don t move for me, i am not. early on. en the i would give these quotes the founding fathers about god and government, all this other stuff and it worked very well. right. two years later, i would go to these campaigns, the republicans would be quoting bible verses, they re like, jesus this. dude, it s not going to work for you. okay.
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. we have exceeded every expectation of what was possible in this race him i want to remind you all just about 15
months ago all the political pundits said georgia was not in play. we put georgia in play. it was a michelle nun, who was a part of the democrat s efforts to turn traditionally red states purple. but in the end, it didn t work. nun failed to get enough african-american port to get past david perdue. it didn t work either for wendy davis in texas, white voters were by far the largest group to turn out. joining us now msnbc political mike man cal. casey hunt is with us. political reporter for the washington post robert kosta. where do we begin? what is your take away? i have never seen an election where i think the biggest element was the increasing distance between people and their government. they feel such a distance between the government. i was struck by it. and you are talking about how
this is the section of washington? no, not so much that. they feel the government is not on their side any longer. they feel government doesn t work for them the way it used to. they don t trust the government. there have been a series of missteps over the past couple of years, the irs, the fsa, whether you want to talk about isis, ebola. obviously, this was, you know, a lot of people will make this an indictment against obama regardless. there is so much more going on, culturally and politically f. your refrigerator breaks, your cable breaks you are punching button, you push three if you want it fixed. the distance between people and the ordinary norms of their live, political and cultural i. i wouldn t put the impact on negative ads.
i don t think that makes anybody happy. largely negative ads as well. joining us now, u.s. senator elect from west virginia, congress woman chelly moore capito. she is the first woman elected to the senate from west virginia. congratulations. gore. i know we have a bit of a delay. let launch into it. if you agree with what mike barnacle is saying, what do you do to fix the problems in terms of the rift between america and walk. well, i m a republican now elected from a democrat state and i know the value of bipartisanship. i know how to work together and i think that that s the first thing we can do is to prove we can govern and that s what we will do. your state, joe manchin is a good friend of ours. so many days he wanted to bang his head against the wall because he said he couldn t get anything done.
do you think that changes? i do think it changes. because i think that as you you were saying earlier in the show, people are just fed up they re really fed up with the gridlock and the partisanship. i have known joe manchin for decade him we are friends. we will be able to work well toke him maybe that will be a model for the rest of the senate. i certainly hope so. let s bring in casey hunt. she has been following these elections him casey, what stood out to you last night? well, you know, mica, some of what we were talking about generally as far as this being a real you know intense wave for republicans. we saw a lot of these races break late and of course the congressman s congress woman s race, excuse me, had a particularly large margin. there was one congress woman as you are looking ahead to the next month, first of all, what is the biggest mistake you think republicans could make in the initial session and also aside from senator joe manchin, who
are some democrats you think you could work with? well, you know, i know several democrats, joe donnelly from indiana, somebody i served in the house w. i think that, you know, we could work well together. regionally, i don t know if virginia has been called, but if senator warner goes back to virginia, i certainly know him and could work well with him. i. i think the biggest mistake we could make as republicans is maybe take too big a bite. i think what people want to see immediately and what i want to see immediately is some successes, are some successes and i think that, you know, i think we can achieve that. whether it s tax reform, whether it s energy policy, certainly in west virginia, energy policy played really big in this election we got to find a way so we re not picking winners an losers in this country. that really is the reason i m going to the united states senate. shelly moore capito,
congratulation, really amazing. congratulations. one of 100 women elected to congress for the first time ever. very exciting. bob kosta, what a big night for the republican party. any big surprises for you last night? the big surprises, we re seeing a new class coming to the united states senate. i think congress woman capito is a part of that group. it will enable mitch mcconnell to get something done, maybe even on immigration. bob, it s willie geist. we have been talking this morning about some of the graciousness we saw lost night from republican was won. it s easy to be gracious, of course, when you just one an election. what matters is can you be jaishs gracious after january in dealing with the president of the united states, as someone who covers the hill so closely, do have you reason for optimism? should americans be optimistic after what happened last night? i think there is one particular note of optimism, i think the most important relationship in walk right now is between senator mcconnell and
vice president biden. if you look at past fiscal impacts, past disagreements on capitol hill, it has always been mcconnell and biden who have been able to craft a deal and get it done, in a divided washington, in a divided government. i m looking at those two as a report tore cease to find some kind of light and find a path ahead. i will tell you the most productive period ahead in the time i was there in the lame duck session if 2010 and a lot of business was done and much of it was worked out through senator biden and through vice president biden and senator mcconnell because they have a relationship that goes back decades. so i think that s right. i think he s going to be a key player. he has been trying to build these bridges that needs to be billed. mike born cal, stay with us. robert costa, thank you so much. casey hunt, we will see you later this morning. up next, he didn t sugar coat it for the democrats. they said they knew the election would be a challenging night.
it was at every level. steve israel will join us next for what he thinks can get done in walk. anything? much more morning joe when we return. a little while ago, i spoke with myopoint, secretary brown ran a spirited campaign. she earned a lot of votes and she earned my respect. it took a lot of guts to take on the race like this. because of the business we re in, it also meant she d take some heat. i admire her willing inside to step in the arena and fight as hard as she did. we need more people who are willing to do that. not fewer. she deserves a lot of credit for it. this was certainly a hard not contest. they re still after me. get to the terminal across town. are all the green lights you? no. it s called grid iq. the 4:51 is leaving at 4:51.
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last night. you hear it from democrats as well as republicans. haley reed he made a multibillion dollar bet on demonizing the coke brothers. it was a devastating loss for harry reed and this strategy was an extraordinarily bad strategy. we said it wouldn t work. he said he was wasting democrat s money. this is as embarrassing for him as karl rove debacle. you can t overstate how bad of a fight this was for harry reid and hope donor mine he completely blew. his party was wiped out in his home state. they lost the whole thing in nevada. also harry reid at war with the white house. bob costa wrote his chief of staff on record going after the obama camp, finally he is a minority leader at a time when the white house can no longer
cater to him. mike born cam. his pack raised and spent more money than any pack in america. any pack. he blew it by trying to demonize two guys that most americans don t know about, don t care about. has nothing to do with tear daily lives. that s true. there is one added element, reid went out of his way to villify and get removed bill deihly on the edge of a deal with john ban tore put together an economic deal moving forward. three years ago. harry reid killed that. joining us now from capitol hill, congressman steve israel from new york. not a great night. do you agree with what might have helped set the theme here, sir? ? no, tflgs an ugly nighting to blunt about i. there is no way around that. look, i think that there is a
sooeting anger by the middle class at washington and i think that both parties need to listen to that. i agree with joe. this isn t necessarily about super packs. it s about pocketbooks and our ability to come together where we can. i think we can come together on key economic security issuings. that s what has to happen now this election is mercifully behind us. congressman, willie geist. we have been talking about the virginia senate race. i don t think we are on the radar. the maryland governor s race, you could liss about ten or 12 of them. which ones kind of stunned you the most? i will tell you, i was surprised this ended up the way it was. 2006 was a wave election for democrats and republicans lost 30 seats. 2010 was a wave election for republicans. democrats lost 63 seats. this was a wave election at every level. the only good news for us in the
house is that we did contain the wave. i think we will end up topping out at about 15 seats. there are still some elections that haven t been called. we were able win in some tough republican areas, like joe s state in florida. it looks like we may win a race in omaha, nebraska and flip one in california. but the bottom line is that i did not believe that this was going to be a wave election more of a wave for senators and governors, less of a wave for us. but we still lost. we need to do better in 2016. so congressman, we are getting word from the white house the president is convening a fuse conference this afternoon. so we re going to get more information exactly when and where at the white house, but it will be interesting to see what they have to say. congressman steve israel, do you have any idea what might happen there? i think we need to pick three things we can get done together. i think it s college debt, reforming the tax code. we need to do this increment
amelie. i think both parties have a delivery for the middle class. we should pick those three things and move forward. steve, thank you so much for being with us. thank you. still ahead, are you shaking your head. mike barnacle, we ll talk about it later. steve kornacki brings us more next. why geography matters sometimes within an individual state. we ll explain much more on morning joe s coverage in the 2014 mid-term election. [ male announcer ] this man has an accomplished research and analytical group at his disposal. but even more impressive is how he puts it to work for his clients. morning. morning. thanks for meeting so early. oh, it s not a big deal at all. come on in. [ male announcer ] it s how edward jones makes sense of investing. makes sense of investing. ring ring! progresso!
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jeanne shaheen. there is something about scott brown. he has picked really tough battles to fight. but you see that guy on camera. you see him in the closing days of the campaign. if he picks the right race, he would have been massachusetts governor tonight. he would have been elected last night. i think he would have been a massachusetts senator had he run against ed marky when he was running a special election. we should point out. i think we would all agree that anyone any time who puts their name on a ballot and goes out there to take the abuse as well as the products, to have their likes drenled up and put in the public prints every single day. they december some respect for. that scott brown, our friend, state senator in new hampshire says scott brown crushes the shopping mall. scott brown, mica, is a great politician. he is, he has lost two races. i will say, too, i agree with mike, as we see everybody pile on wendy davis last fight and this morning. okay.
you try. as a democrat, to run in the state of texas as a woman. i mean, it is a very, very red state. like massachusetts is a very, very blue state. but people, i saw people mocking scott brown last fight from the left. i saw people mocking wendy davis from to the right. you know what, you try it. you put your name on a ballot. you go out there. you are like ripped to shreds. have you your family attacked. have you your very existence torn apart with ten, 20, $30 million of advertising against you. rig right? then you can criticize these people and mock them and ridicule them on the low points of their lives. it s graceless. you tack about scott brown in new hampshire or wendy davis if texas. they zefb our thanks for giving a dam about america and actually putting it on the line and getting blood in the arena.
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interview, in this case a very long one. it is time for a new direction. it is time for a new way forward. we said for months, it s the rod to a republican majority and the united states senate led through kansas and we did it! we are heading to washington and we are going to make them squea squeal! i m sorry. that s just the line of this campaign. make them squealed. they really have. they were thought to be really tight. they weren t. so far the republicans have gaentd at least seven seats. it wasn t in kentucky, mitch mcconnell beat his opponent.
in iowa, joni ernst beat congressman bruce braley. i wasn t even close. another big fight, south carolina, make them squeal for thom tillis defied the polls to unkeith kay hagan. do we feed to play the theme song from deliverance ? stop doing that. you always make it dirty. and walk in congressman, war veteran tom cotton ousted mark prior. this is another race. maybe new hampshire stopped it. mitch mcconnell s race was called, tom cotton s race, called one minute after the polls were closed. at that point estart thinking, okay. wait, tucker, these margins have to be pretty darn big for all the big networks to jump up there. they were. we are talking about the margin,
so much bigger in these states. arkansas and georgia. it was assumed, that margin is bigger than a lot of people thought. georgia was shocking. by the way, you were talking about the wave discussion at the early evening. i wasn t ready to call anything a wave. within i saw perdue, leak at one point chuck todd looked at me, he was looking at me, like. because it was a forejohn conclusion. we might not know until january within we had that runoff. i predicted 53 seats. that was the one seat i said they could steal. i wasn t even close. georgia was discussed by many to go to a january runoff. but republican david perdue made it look easy. bob dole was there for a week
campaigning. you know what, bob dole has had a rough couple of years, what a great morning for him. amazing. unbelievable. republican shelly moore capito becoming that first woman elected. what an approach, 1 of 100. another pickup was in montana. despite a sudden interest a couple weeks ago. new hampshire is a lone bright spot for democrats, jeanne shaheen survived scott brown s challenge. questions out there, alaska is still undecided. all going to a narrow lead. he is probably going to eek that one out. that s not nbc news, that s not msnbc. that s joe. it looks like he is going to win. and louisiana will go to a number of mary landrieu failed
to win. a tough battle. the big surprise of the night. an extraordinarily close lead in virginia, mark warner could face a recount. ed gillespie didn t concede and actually yesterday morning, you said watch this race, it can be a lot closer than anybody expected. you literally are the only person i heard on national television say that. well said. the clock is right. the price of that. warner tried to coast in. this is the results from president obama. also you ran around the state with john warner. one second, you said a serious policy campaign. you know, mica, we have been saying the reason why this race stayed so degrees for so long it s because republicans were only running against barak obama. right. ed gillespie defied gravity. he did.
by doing what? by coming up with a serious health care alternative. i heard from a lot of people, republicans are saying nothing, oh, wait, except for ed gillespie in virginia. that s a good point. people are looking for, that s not birth control or women s issues. you did like the pig squealing ad. because that s about washington, actually. you know what i make fun of it because it s funny, but it s true. what happened in the gillespie race is what would the senate look like against republicans just looked a little ways over the potomac and invested money, gillespie was down on tv for about a week. no ads. you know, it s one of those races where it s a quintessential swing state t. campaign is virginia. to not have invested in that, if somebody is no doubt kicking themselves this morning. you know what, robert, i think last night, you always have to be really careful with
taking anything that happens in off year elections and projecting them on to an election. in. have a, though, it is a were whating sign for democrats. if 2008 the media jumped up and down. oh, virginia has changed to a purple to a blue state. the next year, they win by 21 points. they fell for the same crap in 2012 because barak obama, you guys, what you guys did to get out the votes, mainly african-american voters, targeting them, that was not transferable to mark warner. that is not transferrable to hillary clinton. if democrats think it is, they re making the same mistake we republicans made thinking that ronald reagan s success in 80 and 84 will be transferrable to us years later. the only thing interesting to us, obviously, you don t think of it as much, vamt for 25 years was the most republican southern state. right. in 76, when north carolina and
georgia are going out for carter. you know, and when bill clinton was oneing arkansas and some of these other places, virginia was as republican as any of the old confederate states were. right. it is now a defined purple state. it is. but it is as you said, it s on either side. you had mica last night a democrat taking virginia for granted. a democrat takes vamt for granted now at their own peril. exactly. there is one barak obama. one 2008 campaign. it s a lot closer than anybody expected it to be, looking at the public polks, there is no doubt, no one is going into 2016 thinking the ceilingis anything other than 51. you wonder if there is going to be a kind of a correction from past republican years where they didn t do so well? if you look at mitch mcconnell s speech, that was a good speech. absolutely. that was very elegant. joe, we were talking off air,
it s remarkable how well republicans presented themselves after their victories. at that time right. i say, boy, republicans have been disciplined. he goes, yes, for the last 48. for the next 48. for the next 48, back to the normal. there were real disagreements. look. they were i78 pressive candidates. tom cotton, joni ernst. dan sullivan, cory gardner, that helps, candidates matter. well, if you put those names next to the christy o donnells, the todd aikens, a lot of those races that were you know you re 53, maybe 54 if sullivan wins and landrieu doesn t, you know, that s four, five seats on the other side that republicans could have picked up had they had the effort last night, which was to identify and train in many ways really, really good candidates. i agree with a lot of you.
the speeches were gracious last night. you will forgive me. a lot of americans are thinking the piece will break out. we re looking at some of the numbers. it s clear the pomsters were giving democratic candidates way too much credit. nate silver at 538.com broke down the races. he looked at the weighted polling averages before tuesday s vote and compared them to the end results. for example, the polls gave tom cotton a six point advantage in arkansas. his margin of vicstory was 17 points. that means the points had an 11 point bias in favor of the democrats. the same trend were true in kansas, kentucky and georgia. the polls are way off. i apologize. tom cotton. that race probably was a six-point race, ten days ago, 12 days ago. i know they had internal tracking polls spanning that eight, nine, ten, during the last week. they had polk numbers, they didn t have any more money to win. no one expected them to win by
2017. there was a late break. that s why the margins. governor walker of wisconsin. they were pretty confident they were winning by two or three, maybe four points. they won by seven. so what happened is what happened, it happens in wave elections. on the last weekends, you have an extra three, four, five points. the electorates, if they polled, might have been as they predicted. it wasn t what it was on election day. one thing, the fork times have been arguing about this online, if i remember, in which cotton was down ten points to prior harry reid super pack spends, what, four or five million in arkansas. it s not like it was a give me state. they are stunning. i can t say, they thought the people in rural arkansas were more concerned with david coke in new york city than getting their kids to college. well, they thought priors have won in arkansas the last 30, 40 years. i just wanted to say how
wrong harry reid was again. how gracious republicans are, i don t think they went 48. no, they re very gracious. harry reid. no, no, no. joining us from capitol hill, senator jerry moran from kansas. so where do the republicans go from here? mica, i this i what the message from last night s election is always risky to take messages. this is a pretty simple one. demonstrate that you can govern. demonstrate that you know how to work towing to solve the country s problems and make certain that we do the things that our candidates said they were going to do as they campaigned across their state around the country. so, jerry, of course, a big surprised last night, pat roberts wins comfortably and there is a story about a call that mitch mcconnell had to make in august. very angry to how bad that campaign was being run, bake amelie, to him him he acted together, a former marine.
there is no such thing as a former marine. the marine did not take that lightly. had a big fight just in august. i guess it paid off last night. senator roberts ran great campaign. it went through the primary him took whatever admonition or instructions were given to him. my guess is pat roberts heart and his brain, i m going to get to work. i m going to, that marine is going to accomplish this election. kansans, it was clear, there is grit frustration in my home state with certainly policies that emanate from the obama policy him there is an equal mess in the united states senate harry reid created the do nothing approach in the united states senate. in fact, it s what got me willing to chair the senate campaign committee, being told, i need to understand, shortly after i became the united states senator the strucks to me were, jerry, you need to understand, we re not going to do anything until after the next election. kansans despise that, so it all
came together i think last night and the voters broke as you d expect in kansas with some belief these policies are wrong and we don t want a democrat leader continuing in the senate that does nothing. so can you imagine? would you ever be in the middle of a fight between two wolverines or mitch mcconnell and pat roberts in. oh, god, i m take the wolverines. senator jeremy peters has a question. good morning, senator. i think last night as you listen to republicans talk about their stunning victories in a lot of these races, there was a certain humility, i think they were careful not to read too much into these victories. so i wonder, do you think it would be a mistake for republicans to see a mandate in last night s results in. i think the mandate was what i said, skepticism by american people the country is not headed in the right direction, but even greater skepticism or distrust, dissatisfaction with the united states senate that has not
worked, certainly in the four years i have been a united states senator. so i think the mandate the about let s see some accomplishments. i think that s what you saw candidates across the country last fight saying is, roll up our sleeves, physical out what we can do together and let s demonstrate to the american people, the people who ask us to work for them, that we actually can work to accomplish things for the good of the company. this was certainly a republican victory. what i think the american people want to see is, this was a victory for america. senator jerry moran. thank you very much. congratulations. do we have that sound byte from mitch mcconnell? do we have? all right. here is mitch mcconnell, his speech late last night after his win. we have to stretch a bit. they have to pay in the machine. we got a beta max. 1958. go ahead. play it. a little while ago, i spoke with myopoint.
secretary brown ran a spirited campaign. she earned a lot of vote. she earned my respect. it took a lot of guts to take on a race like this. because of the business we re in, it also meant seed take some heat. i admire her willing ins to step into the arena and fight as hard as she did. we need more people who are willing to do that. not fewer. she deserves a lot of credit for it. this was certainly a hard not contest. we do have an obligation to work together on issues, i think we have a duty to do that. just because we have a two-party system doesn t mean we have to be perpetually in conflict. i think i have shown that to be true in critical times in the past. i hope the president gives me the chance to show it again. it was a good speech.
i want to believe him. i think you can. i think old school is new school. i think mcconnell wants to take the senate back to the way they used to do business. i think the new crop of senators coming in, will give him the support to do that, the calgary he has is creating the balance between this chamber and the house chamber, which will have a little more fire brand, so given the numbers they picked up last night as well. i think mcconnell wants to set the tone early between the republican leadership and the white house he wants that to be a positive tone so he recognizes down the road he doesn t want to alcohol old battles. for mitch mcconnell, people say all he wants to do is fight democrats. within i talk to him privately. it s not democrats that he s wailing against. it is some of the let s say more extreme people in his own caucus
that are saying still what jerry moran was angry about. that s let s get nothing done. mitch mcconnell is old school. he comes from the old school where you get things done and in the past couple of years, in his own party, it s been really rough in the senate. no doubt that speep was not directed at a larger audience. it was as if we were on a republican caucus conference call and the leader was setting the agenda right there. i like it. for the ted cruzs of the world and others he is worried are going to take i am worried. stay with us. still ahead on morning joe, the chairman he had a big night. yes, he did. plus, why yesterday s results could mean republicans will have the control of the house of representatives until the year 2022. that was hard to say. i will be 40 by 2022.
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. we have the race that we want. bill cassidy, can you not run. can you not hide any more. this race is starting tonight [ cheers ] . the questions facing us tonight the voters in louisiana will be a very sipple one. which candidate has the proven record of standing up, fighting and delivering for our state? and which candidate has a record of running scared and trying to hide his record from the voters?
that s for mary landrieu whose race is heading to a jun runoff, joining us is the mod tore from meet the press, chuck todd and legal writer from the new york tiles john harwood joining us as well. conduct, before we get to this concept of the gop controlling everything until 2022. nothing is permanent. every time we think that, things change. can mary landrieu ul this you ve? i say that, if you were to pick the best chance mary landrieu would have of surviving, you would say, make sure senate control is not done. make sure she can make it more about cassidy tan d vs. r. will democrats write a check? are they exhausted. i don t know?
in 22, she was in a runoff, down five or six points going into that lasted race, the difference is 100,000 african voters live in houston because of hurricane katrina. i think that may be the difference. what about this control thing? mica is concerned about republicans controlling the house. she s worried that they re holding controlth in until 2022. the structural defeat of the democratic party him people say minimum 2022, hillary clinton now will have to win the presidency by double digits to bring the house somehow. that is how big this majority is
right now. john harwood, did it pay off? . you know, when you get a wave like this, it s not going to make the kind of difference i watch as somebody who lives in the washington area the ads bill clinton cut for anthony brown the candidate for governor in morale. it was you need a leader. you need a plan. people don t pay attention to that stuff when you got a tide like this. the one thing i think we can say for certain, absolutely, positively, hillary clinton will not win the presidency by double digits in two years. exactly. endorsements matter so rarely. i think it s unfair for people to look at hillary clinton, who by the way i said had it miserable by 2014. it s unfair to blame hillary clinton for not being able to carry weak candidates in the finish lean. i thought bill and hillary were like the magic touch?
like he said, when you get a twhaef big, you can only stand on the beach so long. if i were hillary clinton, i would be worried about who lost, people who have been around a while? that s what voters wanted. they had a chance to reelect kay hagan. i think one message of last night was new, fresh faces, change. the republican party has elected a bunch of people who are younger and diverse. mm-hmm. new people coming into washington and the democratic party now, look at its leadership in congress. the democratic party looks older. the democratic party looks by the way. looking it s all it s not president obama was the reason why. okay. but if are you the democratic party this morning, are you a rank and file member of congress. are you a rank and file senator mark warner and jeanne shaheen we think one we will see on the
canvass, if you look at it. you say to yourself, boy, this leadership team isn t working. don t you say it s time to bring if fresh faces, fresh thinking? i have talked with a couple democratic senators who hope there is competition for harry reid. i think there are some people that assume he s up in 2016. maybe he doesn t want to keep doing this but what about on the house side? talking about harry reid, barak obama, obviously, a big loser last night. but harry reid gambled with downers money, millions and millions and millions of dollars going after two businessmen that nobody had heard of five, six years ago and he lost in the biggest weigh possible. why wouldn t the democrats look to somebody like conduct scheduleer in the senate? why would you ut that guy back
if, you are a minority leader? you know, i wouldn t rule out the possibility that something like that could happen. but i think parties tend to stay with the people who have been leading them. there is a certain inertia and a certain stability to those structures as is chuck scheduleer going to want to have a platform with dick durbin? i m not sure we will see that change. the one thing i wanted to.out about 2016, yes, we have different faces in the republican party. ly have different voters in 2016, presidential elections. so that will change the equation as well as a much broader map. john harwood. thank you very much. chuck todd, stay with us if you can. coming up, he had said nothing short of a republican takeover of the senate would be a failure. the share of the rnc ron prevus is here to explain how his body explains the polls, nick schneider joins us.
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. if you lose this election, can you pick yourself up and still run for 2016 or would a loss here mean you would not have a shot at being president. my plan is for the voters, to be the government for the next four years. are you committed to serving the four years? that s my plan. would governor walker make a
good president? governor walker is a great governor him he would do great at any position he would want to pursue. now, casey hunt. her interview style is just fantastic. like, hey, why are you a jerk? i don t get it. can you help me understand? fresh off a big win last night, the republican party is looking ahead to 2016. joining us from walk, the chairman for the republican national committee ryan prevus. congratulations. good job. thank you, it was a great night. our volunteers and staff did a great job. we re obviously excited about the outcome. it s nice to know some of the things we are doing is working. where do you think this goes from here in terms of how the republicans lead, these new faces, is the page turning for
the party? i i think on the outset a couple years ago, we said we needed a more diverse younger party. a party that s year aroundsh not a party that shows up once every few years before an election and a party that got its act together when it cable to our digital and data program. i think some of the stuff you saw happening last night i would say when my wife asks me about a project at home, i say, i m 80% done, i got 80% to go. that s kind of where we re at here. robert gibbs and i were talking before and it s almost like somebody in your position, you have seen recent history, can you celebrate for about 12 hours. then you go, oh my gosh, it s great. i ve run 20 miles of this marathon. the last couple piles are straight uphill. 16, of course the senate races are found in blue states. most of them are and the map
expands. so how do you make sure that the republicans don t repeat what happened in 2010 followed by a heart breaking loss tore them and we don t see the same thing in 16? well, i think it s nice to know a lot of the things we were doing worked. so we were very confident going into the last several days at least the last couple weeks, because our modeming was good we few where these races were at. what do we have to do? we have to double down on the field operation, on our engagement in black and hispanic communities across the country. we have to be more like what robert and his team put together when he had teams across the country. they did it two straight years. they weren t sitting around talking fracking and clean comb. they were having pizza parties, having bands come in.
they were talking to voters. it s the bake stuff. abraham lincoln said. i said drills may be drills. i love that line him i was saying to republicans in the middle of 2027, they were like, obsessing over the smallest things in the world. well, you guys are bitching and moaning at each other, figuring out who the real republican is? you know what the democrats are doing, knocking on doors, making phone calls. i love that line, chuck todd, instead of talking about fracking and clean comb the democrats are knocking on doors. that s right. i mean, when do you as chairman of the party, do you want the 2016 primary race to start now? do you hope there is a six month pause? do you want to see, do you want to give republican lead herbs a chance to govern for the first six months and hope a bunch of people don t jump in? you are the leader of the party. what would you like to see when
it comes to the presidential race of when it starts, sort of unofficially? well, i think, after the new year, i mean it s fine if candidates get out of the blocks, obviously, i think the race to 2016 i think is good for our party. but i think it s 4-20-16, i think it s important our leaders in the legislature set forward now real achievable goals that are simple that we can define for the american people, one, two, three, four, achievable things, work with the president get those things done, repeat, repeat, repeat. i think one of the things that hurt us in 2012 that isn t talked about is we need to have a legislative agenda that was clear and an accomplishment going on in washington as well as a message in the field. it s an important piece. enjoy the moment. congratulations on a job well
done. it s good to have you on. joining us from detroit t. reelected governor of michigan, republican rick snyder. good to have you on. the nerd zitz again, the governor a couple weeks ago, we were seeing polls that showed republicans in trouble in wisconsin, the race was closed. obviously, nobody saw the noise coming. i said last night it looked like the republicans won the big 10. it worked out great. support was strong from the sids. it s strong support across the political spectrum. we have been really reinventing michigan. recovery is going on. good things are going on. the same thing is happening in the mid-western states. chuck todd. governor spieder, some people have talked about you as somebody that might have annual big beyond the state of michigan. 2016, what do you think the
parties should be thinking about? what type of candidate should the republicans be looking at when it comes to 2016? and are you one of them? i appreciate the question. right now, i m excited to be reelected governor. the election is yesterday. there are so many great things to do in michigan. when you look at nationally, one of the big issues will be looking at leadership. i think in many cases, people will be looking to the governors across the country. we ve got a great group of governors that have a track record for results for people. jeremy peters has a question for you, governor. good morning, governor. one of the big things in this election him when they have strong candidates, they can win in tough environments. you proved that in michigan. with the senate race, the republican candidate was not as strong him i wonder if you have regret itself and think if republicans had nominated somebody better that you could have picked up that seat as
well? will, again, i don t want to speculate on someone else s race. i m proud of the when i had in michigan t. other part i would mention is we increased our majorities. we increased seated in both chambers. so that shows voters can really look at candidates out there and support great candidates. we are seeing the results. now we will turn that into tangible results in terms of more jobs for michiganers. great seat, go. i was just looking at the website, going to the races. another race, i said georgia surprised me. another one north carolina, thom tillis somebody many people didn t pay attention to. a couple were tight. she always seemed like she was going to pull this out. 26 million, 27 million, spent against tillis, the most attacked candidate in america him he pulled out a win in the
state that barack obama won. he basically won the romney win when you look at it 2012. are you surprised by this result? because i am? i think we all thought if there was a republican wave, that would bring tillis over over the top. she did everything. are you in a trouble incumbent. you don t want a referendum. you turn it into a choice electio election. . all right. chuck todd, bill crystal, thank you very much. he was a little smug.
oh, please. i feel robert s pain. i m sure you do. great to see you. up nexting steve kornacki is working the boards him deeper into last night s results. what happened? we ll be right back. .
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we reached a point where begich is going to overtake sullivan. he has to win more than 60%. closer to two-thirds of the vote. it s still outstanding. it s an extremely tall note. we should note, when he won this street, he trailed then, too. that s a grain of hope they have. when we go back to the map, we see the other piece of yellow, louisiana goes on a runoff there. mary landrieu, this is a jungle candidate. every candidate, same ballot. you can see two republicans here, 41, 14, add those up. the republican vote last night 55%. that s a lot to run off. the governor s side, outstanding results here as well. the alaska race, the independent is leading, teamed up with the democrat. take a look here, maybe the biggest stakes right now, they re defeating the incumbent governor in colorado.
good fuse overnight for democrats, he was trailing most of last night t. vote is still out. he s ahead by 13,000 t. vote that is still out if colorado is disproportion natalie from denver. it s like a three-quarters democratic city in boulder, the university of colorado. very liberal. democrats are optimistic about what s happening right now in colorado t. other too close to call. keep an eye, connecticut. this is one democrats have optimistic about. over 22,000, looking at a democratic city. he will be in better position right now. thank you so much, steve. with egreatly appreciate it. of course, dana mallie went out and spoke, it looks like he s going to win. his opponent said it looks like we re not going to make it.
you probably can put that in the democratic side. still ahead, did voters say yes or no to pot at the polls and how marijuana fared in state wide ballot measures this week. also the minimum wage, three states. really? you are watching morning joe. we ll be right back. music
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on the ballot in several states. there s been some concern that questions like do you support the legalization for authorized dispenries for marijuana might be too confusing to people who actually smoke marijuana. as a result, ballots in those states are wording the question in ways easier for pot users to understand. oh, good. in oregon they asked, would you ever wrap a burrito in a pizza? you see where i m going? in being an an have you ever put a slayer cassette in a teddy ruck rucksin to freak out your little brother? have you ever worn cargo shorts to a funeral? a number of controversial ballot measures across the country. voters in oregon and washington, d.c. accused legalized recreational marijuana. i ve got to go get my cargo
pants. the other ballot initiative to watch was the minimum wage. workers in arkansas, alaska, south dakota and nebraska. four states. i thought it a lot of people looking to move to alaska. they passed the minimum wage and legalized pot. well, there you go. illinois may not be far behind. colorado voters rejected a so-called personhood clause over fears it would be a de facto ban on abortion. washington state will expand background checks. and close ways known as the gun show loophole. that s good. voters in berkeley california are the first in the nation to pass a tax on sodas and other sugary drinks. we have a lot to talk about. i mean, tons to talk about. coming up. i m going to be talking to jeremy peters about how americans for prosperity, funded in large part by the koch
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they were. no doubt about it. it was not even close. it wasn t even close! the gop has gained at least seven seats. we re waiting. it wasn t close in kentucky. it wasn t in kentucky where mitch mcconnell easily beat his democratic opponent grimes. one of the key victories in iowa where joni ernst beat bruce braley. another big win for the republicans in carolina. thom tillis unseated kay hagen. in arkansas, tom cotton ousted mark pryor. democratic mark udall is following congressman cory gardner in colorado and has been attacked for some of his own supporters for many a one-trick pony in that campaign. georgia was expected by many to go to a january runoff but republican david purdue made it look easy against michelle nunn. in kansas, pat roberts survives, despite being down in the polls to independent greg
orman. republican shelley moore capito becoming west virginia s first woman elected to the senate. montana, steve daines going to the senate. in south dakota, mike rounds. and new hampshire, the lone bright spot for democrat, jeanne shaheen survived scott brown s late surge and challenge. he ran a great race. but questions remain as of now. alaska is still undecided with republican dan sullivan holding on to a narrow lead over democratic senator mark begich who has yet to concede. that is an uphill battle. that looks like that s going republican. another state, an uphill battle for democrats, louisiana. after landrieu failed to run outright. extraordinarily close race in virginia. independent mark warner the apparent winner. could face a recount. republican ed gillespie did not
concede in his speech to supporters. welcome back to morning joe. we ve got nbc news s tom brokaw and the association editor of washington post and nbc political analyst jean robinson. tom brokaw, saying this last night, that over the past 20 years, we ve had some hold on, we ve had a hostile environment in washington, d.c. over the past 20 years, the republicans have held the house 16 of 20 years. democrats have won the popular vote in presidential elections 16 of 20 years. the senate, ten years republican, ten years democrat. we re a 50/50 nation. it s almost like a tennis match. where one side holds serve, then the other side holds serve. is it a seismic shift that will last a long time? i think you have to be careful about that. right. you remember newt gingrich goes in 94, contract for america, he lights up the republican site and gone within a couple of years because the president, bill clinton, at that point, completely outfoxed him
on that. reminds me of the morning after gingrich and the morning after reagan was elected president of the united states in 1980. it was a different country the next day. we had the republican conservative out of the west come in to washington. but he was the president. this is the congress. democrats still have the white house. the question is how does the white house deal with all this. and to follow up on your point, ronald rereagan, a massi historic victory in 1980, he got pounded in 82 in the midterms. if you read the ronald reagan diaries, he talked about compromise, the importance of it, you know, raising taxes. he said jack kemp came in and gave him unbridled hell. he says, he doesn t understand, to get things done, you got to find the middle somehow. somebody familiar with the obama white house said to me last night, send joe biden to the hill, that should be their point man. biden lovings it and he s pretty good at it and he knows them.
but they re starting from deep deficits. biden s been iced out for the past couple of years. politico s leading with a no obama pivot after the midterms. i think it s impossible to write a story at 3:00 a.m. about what happened at 2:00 a.m. this is a little early. barack obama by the way somebody said you re being awfully nice to barack obama for the white house being defiant. this is a big punch in the gut. and you have to feel empathy for anybody sitting in that office that has endureded what they endured. i think they ll come around. and realize they ve got two years and they re dealing with a republican board of directors. even though they re ceo, the two are going to have to talk to each other. it s a huge punch in the gut. what are the options moving forward? looking forward to that. well, so, talk about an option. let s talk about one big issue. immigration.
comprehensive immigration reform. the president said after the election, he s going to do the maximum he can do on his own authority. which is apparently a lot. that would be a polarizing thing. especially given the republican victory speeches last night, which were almost uniformly as if reading from a script open armed and inviting the possibility of compromise and moving ahead on big issues. so it seems to me if you have a precedent, you ve got to have that conversation at the bare minimum before you do anything. mike, i think what we have take something like immigration reform that gene gives up. if we go back to the old way, where the president wants to do a lot more than the republicans want to do, but they get something done. and then they fight about the margins. but they actually get something done. i find it hard to believe
this morning we had jerry moron coming on. he mocked fellow republicans who said, we re not going to get anything done. we re hearing this time and type and time again. just as you heard republicans coming in in 2010 that thought everything was an indictment against barack obama and an act of these candidates seem to understand that this is an indictment against washington gridlock. yeah, and by the way, i am more optimistic than everybody else. that s why it s clear that the tone of today s press conference by the president of the united states, his tone is going to be critically important as to what happens where things go. not only the next six to seven weeks on things like immigration but he s going to set a tone for his reaction to dealing in the new environment and one of the elements of that is going to have to be the increased deployment of the vice president of the united states whose natural habitat is the give and
take of congress. one important thing i think is the president called tom cotton in arkansas. i think he has to do it. i get you on biden, but president obama congratulatory from the message personally. this is a president who does not easily pick up the phone. so, you know, is this the start of something new, we ll see. a vice president would doesn t easily hang up the phone. you also have to remember, it s in the republican s interest to do something about immigration. maybe not as far as the president does. that hispanic vote which was not as much in the president s corner this morning as they were two years ago, but it s large. that is a really hot button issue out there. if you just dial back and remember when the kids were coming up from guatemala and central america, they were all up and down the board. people said, we don t want them here. even though they re going to be in federal facilities, they didn t want them even near them at that point. a lot of that goes to what i
think is a number of voters feel like they re losing the america that they grew up with. and they want it back in some fashion. and they don t want something that comes along to threaten the america that they grew up with. look at all the polling last night. they feel the american dream is going away. thatter the er thertheir kids w the lives that they had. that s the data out there. i mean, our children are not going to do as well. it s not just that they feel america slipping away, it is. we had some students here. you re not going to do as well as your parents. the data is wrong. i m been saying it for some time. the next generation is going to be one of the most prosperous american generations i like your optimism. in 50, 75 years. i m with warren buffett on that. there are a lot of naysayers that think that s not going to happen. tom brokaw, i want you insights on the governor s results here. republicans are also celebrating
big wins in governor s races across the country. the victories include pickups in several democratic states. president obama s home state of illinois has elected a new governor, bruce rauner. although pat quinn is not conceding. mass mass went red with baker defeating coakley. in maryland, republican larry hogan upset lieutenant governor anthony brown. a republican is once again leading arkansas after republican asa hutchinson defeated mike ross by double digits. and republicans also retained the governors mansions in several closely watched races in the most expensive gubernatorial race in the nation, incumbent rick scott defeated i m surprised by this, defeated charlie crist by a little more than 1%. maybe not. let s start really quickly in the middle of this. we re going to go to tom in one second. jeremy peters wanted to talk about florida. because florida, americans for prosperity, you say americans for prosperity funned in large
part by the koch brothers focused on florida to try to replicate in 2014 what the obama team was able to do in 2012 in getting out the vote. tell us about it. that s absolutely right. we tend to think as the koch brothers bankrupting negative ads. one of their most effective tactics in this midterm election was to go on the ground and build these operations in states like north carolina and florida. florida wallas key because whate koch brother operatives were saying they were doing all along is seeding the ground for 2016. now, there will be a scramble between now and two years from now to see would cho can bit of most robust get out the vote effort. right now, they do have a leg up. that was intentional. over in wisconsin, republican governor scott walker defeated democrat mary burke. the fourth victory for the
possible 2016 candidate who beat back a recall challenge in 2012. we re excited about the next four years. we re excited about the fact that instead of doing what they tried to do, the groups out of washington who wanted us to be against something, we were for something. we were for a better wisconsin. for better schools. for a better university system. for a better technical college system. for a better future for our children and our grandchildren. i can t help but laugh listening to that. scott walker has won three out of four races statewide in wisconsin. what an incredible night for him. he beat the unions. and he won t say this but he beat chris christie. chris christie was trying to elbow his way into the state. he wanted to keep coming back to the state because chris christie wants to run for president. he was complaining about christie not giving him enough money. christie running around taking credit for a lot thing, he shouldn t be taking credit for when his ratings in new jersey are as horrific as they are. this was a huge win for scott
walker the governor, scott walker the conservative and scott walker the presidential candidate who s probably going to be running against chris christie. okay. i want to go back to the governors races. i saw that first one, illinois, tom brokaw, i was explaining to my daughter a couple of days ago, because she was talking about somebody s first love. i said, dear, they always break your heart. they re wonderful. but the first cut s always the deepest. and the first love also breaks your heart. you can say the same about politics. barack obama comes in, conquering hero, 2008. last night, his heart broken again. and the unkindist cut, his home state of illinois, goes republican. well, if he had been the president of the last couple of years as this campaign team was that got him back into office, we d have a different morning probably. i mean, they established the model that the republicans went to school on.
i mean, the republicans took a look at what happened two years ago and they said this is what we have to do. we have to identify our voters. we have to flood the states where we need to get elections like in florida for example. and they went after it. i also say looking at scott walker this morning, there are an awful lot of winners last night who woke up this morning with visions of 1600 pennsylvania avenue dancing in their head. well, if i can to this, maybe washington and pennsylvania avenue. emboldened. talk about just how volatile you said that the republicans went to town on barack obama s game plan. i got elected 20 years ago, right. first time republicans controlled the houses in 40 years in a generation. republicans won the house, the senate in 94. in 96, bill clinton wins. in 98, newt gingrich is run out of town but republicans still control the senate.
then in 2000, george w. bush wins. and then it switches again in 2001. switches again in 2002. republicans lock it up in 2000 14. karl rove talked about a permanent majority. 2006, nancy pelosi, speaker. 2008, the most electrifying campaign win for democrats since john kennedy. then in 2010, it is a year of ted cruz. 2012, it is the year of barack obama. again and confirmation of the establishment of the permanent democratic majority. and 2014, this, gene robinson, you would have to go back a long way in american politics to find a more tumultuous time. it seems like the the two-party system is one of those planes that s just falling apart, about to explode. there are problems i think with the two party system and the incentives are wrong. the incentives for members of congress certainly is to play to the base, not to compromise.
there s nothing in compromise for you if you want to keep your job. shouldn t that be a message, that that s why they keep losing? well, right. you get in, you manage to keep your job, and then you get kicked out because people get angry at how you were because you won t compromise. that s one thing. the other thing is, it s a volatile it s a time of canning and anxiety for the country. and so we talk about these fine young people here who will do well, i hope, you know. he s hoping they do well. i m rooting for you. i m rooting for you but. no, but we look ahead and, you know, globalization, automati automation, manufacturing, gone. it s a different country. i m not sure all of that is completely i mean, i don t think manufacturing is gone. i think things are going through a change. innovation has to take over. exactly, exactly. but it s a big change. it s happened gradually. now we kind of understand more
about its implications and how big it really is. and we ask, like, where do those millions of manufacturing jobs what replaces them. republicans expanded their lead in the house as well. so far netting 13 seats across the map. they ve picked up seats like georgia. blue dog john barros. and they added three states in new york, the home state of steve israel, chair of the election committee. the national divide only getting deeper. jeremy reports there are only nine democrats from districts mitt romney won and 17 republicans from districts president obama won. what remains to be seen is whether john boehner will have any easier time controlling house republicans mike barnicle. the answer is yes mike barnacle because he ll have a much bigger majority. it only took five crazy people like me to basically shut the whole thing down. but, i mean, we almost sort of
disregard this news about the u.s. house. the biggest majority since what, 1948? yeah. the biggest republican more republicans then 1948 when harry truman was president. so for all the talking about john boehner and how bad the house republicans were, they actually locked it down for a long time. you know, one of the items that we haven t talked about, that we have alluded to in everything we ve been speaking to this morning is the rumbling out there beneath the surface of this great get up, put your head down, go to work every day country of ours. and it is that in the winter of 2008 and 2009, we suffered a calamitous loss of confidence in the american economy. and there are hundreds of thousands of people out there who lost their pensions. lost their pensions. because they were trust funds, pension funds, gone. the disruption that caused in people s lives i think still
plays itself out. i think people are fearful of what s going to happen with the economy. we talked about this earlier. wall street almost guaranteed will go up today based upon the republican win. their checks won t go up. there s a trickle down effect to all that as well. i m keeping very close track of the millennials. these are the people would are the young men and women would come from those families would lost a pension, had their house taken away, father lost a job, mother maybe working two jobs. the millennials are really skeptical about their attachment to this country. they re attached to each other and they have the social medium in which they can stay in touch. but when you talk to them about their commitment as citizens, that becomes a whole other argument because they don t trust the big institutions. why should i get involved, look what happened to my parents. why should i trust the big institutions. going back 20, 25 years. and there s been a big letdown from the government time and time again. republicans and democrats.
mike barnacle, we have to talk about your home state. a republican wins the governorship again. only one republican is allowed to win an election in massachusetts. it almost seems the governor. martha coakley lost again. she ran a terrible campaign. she s a really nice person. she didn t run the best of campaigns. i would hate as we talked earlier about state senator from texas would lost. wendy davis. to see them brutalized for losing an election is morefully unfair. it s not unusual for republicans to win the i ve always asked bill, why is everybody democratic in there? he go, because if he wasn t there, we would still go off the top of the dome. we need one person to keep us alive.
the death of the former mayor of boston disrupted the campaign. martha coakley, she may have pulled it out. tom brokaw, thank you so much. thank you, tom. your phone didn t win. i m disappointed. still ahead, steve schmidt, andrea mitchell join the conversation. kacie hunt bring us the never before seen moments. and later, monty python fame. join us on set. we ll be right back. a lot of this is how they get to 2014, mitch mcconnell could that be me? no, it s something ambient. no, i m afraid it is.
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a lot of people looking at last night s election through the lens of 2016. hillary clinton headlined at least 45 events over 54 days on behalf of democratic candidates. former president bill clinton also crisscrossed the country. so how did they do? as politico frames it, not so
well. with the former first lady and the former first couple invested a lot of energy. joining us now, nbc s andrea mitchell. former mccain senior campaign strategist and msnbc political analyst steve schmidt and eugene robinson and michael steele also with us as well. andr andrea, the clintons didn t have the effect that usually they have. do they usually have it? they usually have it. the democrats needed surrogates. i think this is more of a repudiation against barack obama than anything else primarily. it s washington and what voters were saying we re sick of gridlock. sitting there watching rand paul, the 2016 case immediately started. he said kentucky is a repudiation of hillary clinton. that just made me laugh. he s starting to run.
they re off. no, you re absolutely right. they can frame it it s hillary clinton and bill clinton only because they were out there and barack obama wasn t. it s even worse i think to be hiding in the white house. acording to baker in today s new york times, the president doesn t view it as a repudiation of himself. that aides are saying if they had brought him in, you know, remember when al gore wouldn t let bill clinton campaign for him in 2000. steve schmidt, you called this a couple weeks ago. i was swept call it was going to be a big night a couple weeks ago. i didn t see it until last week. i think there s a real sense in the country that the wheels are coming off. there s incredible anxiety. there s anxiety about the economy. there s anxiety about the future. there are real existential national security threats building in the middle east. we have government incompetent of an epic scale on display with
regard to the ebola virus and respond to it. and all of that takes place in the context of a complete total collapse of trust in almost every major institution in the country. you can talk about the va, the irs, secret service, tapping reporter s phones. how about the website crashing? exactly. this follows up on years of a couple really bat years for this administration. not on ideology, just that michael dukakis word, confidence. here comes the test for the president. clearly a massive reputation of the president personally. it s a repudiation of his policies. so if he wakes up this morning and this is the great leadership test in my view of his
presidency. how does he begin to try to restore some level of trust and confidence in the american people with regard to our systems of governance in this country? because you look at the totality of all the polls what they come back and say they have little faith in our political leaders across the country to actually govern the country. republicans and democrats alike. if the republicans numbers are low, the republican s numbers lower. mitch mcconnell had head winds going against him of anger at congress, anger at incumbents and a 52% negative in the early exits. and at the same time, he won and he won because first of all i don t think his opponent ran a good campaign but also obama was a drag. about what presidents can accomplish in their second after this kind of setback in their second term. bill clinton facing every bit of
scandal and after losses and newt gingrich, after that terrible loss with newt gingrich in 94. they got together in the roosevelt room and they dealt with the mexican bailout crisis. house republicans were not willing to go with it. gingrich sat down and worked out deals. i m only smirking because that was 20 years ago. i can still remember, bail out mexico, bail out goldman sachs, no. they paid back, all that but anyway but the bottom line was the economists said it needed to be done and clinton with the help of gingrich who, you know, you knew how angry they were. but made deals. you hear that all the time when we re out talking. i always tell the story time and time again about how they hated
each other. but together welfare reform, balance a budget for the first time in a generation. balanced it for the first time since the 1920s for the president today in his news conference, and i think what you saw here, remains to be seen if that s what we ll get. but people want i don t even know if they care what gets done. they want something done competently. even though it s soon after the election, think you have to kind of get it at this point if you re in the white house. it will be interesting. the fact that the president s going to have a news conference and he s going to set a tone, you know, they re smart over there, they ll realize this is an important moment, especially after the victory speeches by republicans last night which were so expansive and, you know, open to possibilities of they were good. they set a time, 2:50 eastern time. of course we ll be running that. still ahead, 14 state, tens of thousands of miles and a lot
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over the last year, states of play have taken us all over the country. 14 states going to many more than once. moments worth remembering. oh such delicious questions. some of the candidates probably wished they d forget those. here s msnbc s political correspondent kacie hunt. reporter: from arkansas to alaska, colorado to kentucky. states of play spent a year on the road with candidates across america. you know kansas means people of the south win. 240,000 miles, new set of tires, this baby s going to get me over the finish line. reporter: democrats work hard to distance themselves from an
unpopular president. would you want him to come down and campaign for you? i speak for myself and don t need any other surrogate to do that. you know, you and scott brown keep wanting to make this race about the president. reporter: do you think the president is a good model as an executive, is it someone you would model your own leadership style after? you know, i probably look to other models whether it s ab abraham lincoln, george washington. reporter: some republicans struggled to prove there s no place like home. if you lead this race, will you and your family commit to staying here in new hampshire? of course. my mom is five miles away. reporter: democrats have labeled you eat coast dan implying you re not from alaska. where are you from? i m from alaska. reporter: not everybody was eager to answer questions. hi, i m kacie hunt with morning joe. hi, i don t really want to talk to you. reporter: i m sure not. some questions were tougher than they seemed. do you think the obama administration has done an appropriate job handling the ebola crisis? um i would say that
it s hard to know you re acting like she found your porn. reporter: and we didn t just talk politics. this big ten expansion. ridiculous. maryland and rutgers make no sense whatsoever. reporter: have you loosened up at all? i did enjoy the campaign. i ve enjoyed getting to know my fellow kansans better. i grew up castrating hogs on a farm. reporter: what does it involve? a very delicate hand. reporter: after 14 states, tens of thousands of miles, untold gallons of sweet tea and pounds of barbecue, states of play s boots are finally home. at least for now. hello, iowa. i m back.
she went to all those great states and all i got were these bumper stickers. kacie, you ve been john, it really was a really, really wonderful team. joining us now, also, columnist for bloomberg view, margaret carlson. good to have you both here. margaret, i ll ask you your takeaway. who was the big winner last night? mitch mcconnell who gave the most gracious speech i have ever heard him give. and i think he is back to his pre scared to death of the tea party self and ready to govern. kasich, a winner without the drama that went on in wisconsin. ohio is 48th in jobs.
had an $8 billion shortfall in the budget. 89 cents in his rainy day fund. kasich turned that all around. he won with 60%. that s amazing, 64% of the vote in ohio. a swing state. so were you surprised last night? we heard these races were going to be so close. i saw you last night as the early polls were coming in. were you surprised how quickly it broke for them at the end? especially some of these states where you had democrats making the sale, especially at the end with michelle nunn. the margin was wider than we expected. you talked about ballot initiatives. people voted for democratic policy. in many cases, they voted for the minimum wage. the minimum wage cory gardner won in colorado. he did not run on the minimum wage. he ran one of the best campaign, didn t he?
reporter: kennedy, looked moderate. gave up on personhood. just completely outfoxed mark uda udall. we re not a captive of our gender. we really have other issues. we have the same issues. one thing that suggests to me is even with all the caveats, the midterms, older voters, just seems it s not automatic that any candidate brings out the full democratic coalition. and that s something democrats better think about for 2016. bill clinton, barack obama, were extraordinary politicians. once in a lifetime politicians. they managed to do it. not everybody can do that. thank you so much. great job. still ahead, how will the republican takeover of the senate impact the markets? cnbc s sara eisen has a preview for us. later, you know him from monty python and a fish called
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it turns out the private sector in this country created 230,000 jobs last month. that was better than economists were looking for. it s also notably the seventh month in a row the private sector has created plus 200,000 jobs. that s important. it shows the trend is continuing. we ll see what friday s numbers show. that includes the private sector and the public sector. in term, s of some of the issue that came out of late night, one notable one is the minimum wage hike. voters responded. they want higher minimum wage. we saw that in five different states. in alaska, for instance. next year, the minimum wage goes up by $1 to $8.75. t taylor scriwift, hit records, t best album of the year. sara, thank you so much. up next, time for something completely different. you know him from monty python
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would make it very silly. the very real problem is
automatic. it s defense, social security, health, housing. last year, the government spent less on the ministry then it did on national defense. now, we get 348 million which is supposed to be spent on all our available products. that is awesome. it is amazing. mike barnacle. 45 years later i saw the first second of the clip and i burst out laughing. i knew that was coming. you re going to be happy you stuck around. one of the original members of the monty python gang, award winning actor john cleese, out now with his memoir, so anyway is with us. off that clip, off of joe s immediate reaction, what s it like to walk through life and whenever people see you, they
smile? they smile? you re absolutely right. it s really nice. the thing is, if people make you laugh, you feel affection towards them. it doesn t matter if you re w.c. fields with a grudge against children, animals and women. if you make them laugh, they still feel affectionate towards you. i think it s very generous to make people laugh. such a generous person. it s also a gift. it s a gift. that you re giving to people. that you re sharing. flattering you enough? extraordinary, you know, we did the shows in july, the ten shows. i was going to ask you about that. were you shocked? for people who don t realize this, i remember you guys announced that you were going to basically bring the band back together. sold out faster than any other show. we sold out the first house, 60,000 seats, in 44 seconds. 44 seconds.
i ve never played to such wonderful audiences. because it wasn t an entertainment at all, it was sort of you know what i mean? they wanted to come say thank you for making us laugh and we wanted to say thank you for thanking us, you know, i mean it was just wonderful. i d never felt so relaxed on stage. so when comics are relaxed, that s when they get funniest. those shows sold out faster than you name the rock act. i mean, it s amazing. i m just curious, john, what do you get recognized for, monty python or depends where i am. if i m england or australia. in america, it s always python. gene, step in. your funny lines have often been about politics. my favorite is during the 2008 i think it was, during the 2008 campaign, when you said michael is no longer the funniest palin.
that was great. so any comment on the pageant of democracy you saw yesterday? when i first came here, when johnson beat goldwater, the thing that impressed me then, really impressed me, was the friendship across the aisles. how people from the parties liked each other and got on okay and it was so different to england where there was still some arguing about the general strike of 1929, you know. and i thought this is great, this is the way to run a democracy. but things change. things have definitely changed. now, when you walked in here, you re very tall. you noticed. how tall are you? partly a trick of the light. i m actually 5 8 . no, you re not. no, i m 64 1 4 1/2 .
so you were 6 feet at ten years old? gawky. that must have been something, to tower over your class by several feet. no, to tower over all the teachers. oh, my god. it was not easy because when you re young you want to fade into the background. can t do that. no, i think i was so how did you use that to discover your ability, your knack, for physical comedy? that was much later. because i was so discoordinated. i was physically weak. i d outgrown my strength, that s what i was told. there were all these little tough guys would could pull themselves up on the rings and i d just hang there. but i found i was look, i was an only child of older parents. and that meant that i didn t fit in very well when i first went to school. i want you to do that here. i wish i could. that s so funny.
i ve had a knee and a hip replacement. okay. the bionic man. ended up teaching in a private school. when did you first realize that you were funny, that you had the ability to make people laugh? it was actually earlier when i was in school. the kids didn t like me very much when i first went to school and i immediately discovered if you could make them laugh, there was this feeling of warmth, you know. and i don t think it was conscious but i think that s just i just started to make people laugh. because you if you tell a good joke at a party, it s very simple, you feel good, right? everyone laughs. if they don t laugh, it feels terrible. no, that s why i did it. i think as a kind of defense thing. the book is so anyway. john cleese, thank you so much. so nice to have you on. up next, what if anything did we learn today.
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today is this group will do better than their parents despite what the data shows because they got up before 5:00 a.m. to be here. that s committed. that s disturbing. yeah, and disturbing. i learned for the democrats to grow from this nightmare of theirs last night, harry reid has to go. oh. all right. i learned that john cleese sadly no longer does the silly walk. however, i m hopeful on the you want me to do it for you? i learned two things. first, it ain t over until it s over. second, it s good to be a republican until it isn t. and we have to wait to see how long that takes. maybe will last a year. you never know. thomas, what did you learn? i think we re in for a wild ride for the next two years and i look forward to it because we can t get any more stagnant than we already are in d.c. there s accountability. a democrat in the white house. republicans on capitol hill.
no more excuses. show us what you have. i don t know about the republican party, that s not really to be honest with you that i care about. i care whether good things are ahead for america. i think that washington s been holding america back. i think now there s going to be accountability. if it s way too early, what time is it? it s morning joe. now, the daily rundown. have a great day. a red republican wave from coast to coast. the most expensive midterm elections in america s history finally in the books. good morning from washington. i m peter alexander. it is wednesday, november 5th, 2014. this is a special post-election edition of the daily rundown. for the first time in eight years, the gop will control the senate majority. republicans are poised to win their largest majority in the house of representatives. since

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sneak peek of the super bowl commercials. you know we re going, willie. are you ready? we re going. we re going to interview katy perry. when is the flight? amman we will send you information. should i be following you on twiter? sure. do that. yeah that s good. also we re going to update you on difficulteflategate because we re going to bring in a physicist. is there more? are you going to laugh like a 3-year-old girl again whenever they say balls? yes. it s ridiculous. there s nothing good today. look at this. seriously, come on. i got to point out one thing. richard haass, foreign relations, is ready for the storm that s on its way. check out the timberland boots. is he rugged? with the gray suit. blizzard passed. willie did you see that cher is this is going to be a
shock, but cher is not a chris christie fan. i didn t know that. her latest attack. i love ron fortnier s response though. what is this? okay. cher is what are you doing? the cher primary. in other news dawn breaks. what did she say? you look at her there. you know she knows geopolitical subtlety subtleties. the grammy winner tweeted, it s more than obnoxious. is there a more obnoxious man in the usa than the governor of new jersey. chris, sit down and shut up. christie is a malicious bully, not presidential material. so goes cher. let s go to our top news. yeah because that s not it. i m not sure why you did that. no i just i actually did
it i actually i liked what happened as far as like ron fournier s response. let s go to south kaur care quickly because last night the south carolina polls came out. last night you had mitt romney and he s down in mississippi, right? yeah. and people are still saying still knocking this guy. well wait what s he doing? eded like a campaign day if i ever saw one. eating barbecue with the people shaking hands. this guy is running. and he s attacking hillary clinton. there you go. he is in full campaign mode. now there you go. and i ve been saying for some time, kids are asking me what do you think about mitt romney? hey, kids listen okay everybody hates mitt romney. the republican establishment, nobody wants him to run in the party except for the people who vote in primaries.
and every time i say that a new poll comes out in an early critical state that has him in first place. the newest poll shows him out front of jeb bush and governor scott walker among republican voters in south carolina. romney lost the prime minister there in 1912 to newt gingrich. this is in iowa. he s way ahead in iowa. and then you go to new hampshire. you got to go back to november. but even there, you know you have mitt romney up. and i just want to know willie geist, if this guy is in first place in every single important state, who expects him to go i know jeb s people are launching a lot of stuff and like trying to kneecap him and everything. but seriously. who expects a guy who is in first place in iowa who is in first place in new hampshire, who is in first place in south carolina to just quit. all the little guys below all of them that are chattering, he
sucks, he sucks, he sucks. let us run this time. he s no good. he sucks. you know? guess what. what? he s in first place. oh, my god. and robert gibbs, i m sorry, somebody pulling 3% or 4% should not be talking about how mitt romney is ill-qualified to run again because he s still in first place. he is in first place. i think if you look at some of the polls who in south carolina is supposed to know who scott walker is right now anyway. look. i think this is about we re probably a tenth of a mile into a marathon. sure he s in first place. this is why you have to decide whether you re going to run the rest of the marathon or not. absolutely. but the question isn t i mean you know you don t get much of a medal for finishing fifth or fourth or third in this marathon. robert, i don t think i m i m not articulating myself very well which, of course is par for the course.
i m sure everybody watching morning joe today is not any different. the point i m making today is the people who are telling mitt romney should not run for president all all run for president if they were in first mace place in iowa new hampshire, and south carolina in the early polls. my question is the state of the mind of mitt romney we are past a time where people can go it s too early. no, this is going to shape the field, what happens in the next month. why would mitt romney not run if he s in first place in all of these states and he wants to run? look i think it s pretty clear that mitt romney wants to run. even if he didn t want to run a few months ago, whatever clicked in him in the last month and a half, whether it was others that got in whether it was just deciding that he wanted another shot because he hadn t been able to do this i don t think there s anything in these polls in these polls that is likely to stop him. the question look if i was a
republican or a republican strategist i would have people ask, is there anything that mitt romney had to deal with in 2011 and 2012 that was a negative for him that he s done a lot or anything, quite frankly, to mitigate. i think republicans are going to, in this election take a longer view on electability. i think that is not going to be to a great benefit of mitt romney. but look i don t disagree with you that these numbers are certainly not going to cop vince him not to run. casey hunt, you ve been following this closely. seems to me that mitt romney s out there planning on running and just making sure there s no reasons not to run. hey, mika. yeah a couple points on this. first, it seems like one of the things he s focused on is trying to present the authentic mitt romney. the speech that he gave in mississippi sounded a lot like one he gave last year at brigham
young university in utah. it seems that we re hearing from mitt romney the man. he wasn t yet a candidate. the question is whether or not he can successfully translate that across the campaign. it s more than just talking about it. i remember trying to getting a cess in 2012 to some of the more human sides of mitt romney. i actually went to church with them in new hampshire. they weren t thrilled to see me but it was one of the only glimpses that we got into this part of his life. and i think while a lot of reporters who covered him on the trail regularly recognized the guy in that mitt documentary on netflix, a lot of america didn t. exactly. i think that the second point, too is you know on this idea of poverty and whether he can redefine himself as somebody not just for the rich, this isn t just, while we talk about the 47%, it s not just that comment. there were hundreds of millions of dollars spent making sure that the american people thought this of mitt romney. it s going to take more to reverse that. i don t know how many times we
want to watch that america the beautiful cayman islands ad again. i don t think it s as simple as looking like you care and reaching out to people who node help and putting on some commercials and trying to show a softer side. sam stein, i would say with mitt romney it s got to be something bigger. it s got to be how our economic security, how lifting up the poor helps us on the world stage. then he might be able to take some of his winning points over the last campaign and apply them to winning points of the next one. yeah. a few points here. one is you know he clearly thinks that he has a platform to make another run. i m guessing i haven t had any reporting on this that romney camps looks like 2012 and say we took the democrat s best shot. we know what they re going to do in 2016. maybe the polls are inviting. the question is whether the polls are a ceiling or a floor. as for this whole rebranding of authentic mitt you know it s
possible obviously that this could work. but, you know i m stuck on the fact that a lot of what people are talking about, mitt supporters are saying focus on poverty. we ll change our focus here change our focus there. that s just a communication strategy. it could very well be when the american public vote in 2012 what they didn t like was his policy portfolio, not how he talked about his policy portfolio. what the mitt campaign probably has to do is articulate what specific policies he will now champion as opposed to 2012 that will alleviate poverty and help us on the world stage. with the caveat these polls are early and the numbers will all change we don t even know if all of those people are running. if you re running in the republican field, candidate x, which name on that list x, scares you the most and, b, which one has you licking your chops? are you anxious to go after mitt
romney if you re a democratic candidate? i think if you look at mitt romney, i know the winning playbook on this one. it s on the shelf. all i need to do is take it off and dust it off a little bit. i tend to believe that republicans are going to more likely nominate somebody from outside of washington. i think a governor like a scott walker who has had a good couple of weeks. i think chris christie will get a pretty solid look at this. i think somebody like a jeb bush. i think if they do go with somebody in washington i think clearly marco rubio has had a good few weeks. i think rand paul is somebody that s going to have to be dealt with throughout this process. so i think there s that s a small number. look, the truth and reality is republicans have a remarkably deep bench this time. that might work against mitt romney. last time he beat a very very weak field of basically herman kaine, newt gingrich and who is
that other guy? can t remember the third. have all of you seen american sniper ? yes. twice. twice? good stuff. yeah. liked it right? i well, as a movie, yeah. yeah. what else was it? it wasn t such a good play. what the heck was that? as a story based of a character on a real person and a real book it doesn t accurately reflect the book nor the real character. wow. okay. i mean i m just which part of it does it not accurately reflect. he makes me tired today. he s talking to michael moore. the film depicting chris kyle which ayman has detailed issues with has already won over audiences in the u.s. raking in more than $200 million since the release but it s also reportedly thrilling audiences
in baghdad. some viewers got so into the film they began shouting out during the screening. the global post reported one moviegoer yelling shoot him. he has an ied, don t want don t wait for permission. he continued saying i love watching war movies because especially now they give me the strength to face the islamic state. the film only ran for one week at a popular upscale mall management ended the film s run management ended the film s run because of the controversy surrounding the killing of muslims. willie? doesn t sound like a terribly scientific study. one guy stood up and yelled. i actually read the nbc news story and it was the audience was yelling shoot him, shoot him, when the little kid when the little kid was walking towards him. of course i thought it was so fascinating. we were sitting in the audience. what do you want to do? in baghdad, the nbc news story said the audience was yelling, shoot him, he s got an ied.
tells you something about the iraqi associate the. i thought it was fascinating. interesting. yeah. there have been enough people blown up by innocent-looking, you know discusssuspects. it was fascinating. ayman? go ahead. go ahead. if. if you don t know the true story, it was a great movie. tremendously entertaining. a lot of value. i want to hear what you think the value is. it s a story if you in fact as the director was saying a story about post traumatic stress disorder how they come home return to society is posed with a lot of problems and chal challenge challenges. from that perspective it is compelling and thought-provoking, emotional moving p. but? when you juxtapose it to the real chris kyle you re talking about the stories when he was back home in texas which may have not been true? a lot of his own personal
opinions about what he was doing in iraq, how he viewed iraqis. some people described as his racist ten racist tendencies when he was going on killing sprees in iraq on assignment. i think there are issues killing sprees? chris kyle was going on killing sprees? when he was involved in his on assignments in terms of what he was doing. right. a lot of the description that has come out from this book and some of the terminology that he has used people have described as racist. in his personal attitudes about what he was doing overseas when he was on assignment. i think a lot of guys when they re in warfare might say things they shouldn t say. i know we said certainly quite a few things about the japanese and i m sure the japanese said quite a few things about us. listen. i didn t know the guy. i mean you know. i only know what i know through, you know bradley cooper and reading a lot of what that
interaction goes. yeah. war is ugly. i thought it was a powerful movie. i love the fact it had both theaters, what happened in iraq what happened at home. that was important. they showed him early on what happened on 9/11. and then he obviously went to iraq. it drew the link between what we did in iraq was a response to 9/11. i wish once in the movie one of his fellow soldiers basically said, hey, don t you know that iraq was not involved in 9/11? and then he could have said yeah, but politics is for somebody else but i care about protecting myself, protecting you, the other guys in my unit. i just once someone had raised the connection about iraq and 9/11. it wasn t a commentary about the war. it wasn t about the politics of the war. it was a character study. it was such a good movie. you don t have to like him and the comments about him calling iraqis savages. he was calling the people he was shooting savages. he was calling people who he thought were going to kill his
buddies savages. he didn t some people have seized on that term that he thought all iraqis or everyone in the middle east is a savage. that s just not what he said. he was talking about the people he was fighting in the theater calling them savages. when we come back ayman is going to kick around santa claus. i understand no. first of all, i m like you. i don t know you can hate santa claus if you want to. i think this is a fascinating conversation. i do too. he s trying to cheapen it. what happens when young men are sent to war and are sent to kill and to fight the enemy and how do you not develop hatreds and confusion about people? i mean how can you completely label somebody when they re put in a position like that? i think it takes a look at just how devastating that all can be on the brain. yeah. so i think everybody s point is valid here. that s why the movie is good. i think so too. it sparked a national discussion into that it
certainly is a good movie. very good. the thing is it actually this movie has done well and we said it before has done so well because you finally have a character study of a guy who went off to war, who doesn t get painted as a beast or is some dark savage himself and hollywood has real trouble making those type of movies. now, they ve made one now where they re not ashamed to show that there were a lot of great men and women in iraq and afghanistan that were brave, that were proud, that sacrificed themselves not only for their buddies but for iraqi people. you know? or how about men who go and come back completely changed. yeah. exactly. on the phone talking to his wife in the middle of a battle. that to me was the most powerful scene in the movie. bringing those two worlds together. a lot of people think this was a ra-rah war film. i went to a screening at ft.
drum in new york here. and there was no screaming and cheering when he was killing people. it was interesting to watch. active duty and vets sitting in a room watching this movie. they didn t stand up and say, yeah he shot that guy in the head from 2100 yards away. harp watching it as reflection of what they had been through. when they saw him at home and struggling so hard with his family and to reintegrate into society. there were people crying, not cheering in that theater. okay. the next segment is going to be equally moving. miss universe. paulina vega. she s here? she will be here. and then model/actress molly simms and beth stern. they will be mika s co-hosts for the half hour. i m going to come back today. willie is i m actually free if you want to talk about politics. put that back up because willie so willie you say you re going to come back. i think it s ayman, too. i think it s going to be fun.
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president raul castro says the u.s. has to return to the naval base at guantanamo bay before ties between cuba and the u.s. can be normalized. castro made his remarks during a summit in costa rica. also adding the land is quote, illegally occupied. i love this. so far u.s. officials have not responded. the military base at guantanamo base was established after it was leased to the u.s. as part of a treaty in 1993. okay. so we decide finally to open up another making demands. he also asks true story for full reparations for the embargo. it is so good you know our negotiations with cuba iran. these things always work out well for us. let s go to the next story now. panama canal. fantastic panama canal, so awesome. noriega acted so well. just reach out the hand. the washington post, while the economy appears to have picked up new census data shows a staggering one in five or 16
million american children currently rely on food stamps. that number is up from the beginning of the recession in 2007 when about 9 million children were on snap as it s called now. last year a bill cut funding for the nutritional assistant program. $8.5 billion eliminating benefits for 850,000 people. let s go to the guardian the copilot was in control of airasia flight 850 when it crashed in december. indonesia s safety committee says the french first officer was flying the plane when it plunged into the java sea. the plane vanished from radar screens approximately 40 minutes into the flight. transportation officials say the aircraft was in good condition and all crew members were properly certified. just so many plane crashes in asia. right in that area too. in that area. i guess this morning early this morning they finally officially
declared that the malaysian flight was lost. wow. about 12 more months of cover by certain networks. those two flight airasia it s no not a safe place to fly. st. louis post dispatcher, a shoving match broke out wednesday night during a meeting to discuss policing in the city following the shooting death of michael brown. the city is considering a bill that would create a civilian oversight board of the police department. the meeting was the first public hearing on that matter. for nearly an hour the proceedings went fine but the scene eventually evolved into chaos when police officers began speaking in opposition of the bill. when the police union leader called for order the pushing and shoving began. the police association believes the bill is unfair towards officers while many citizens say the department needs a new form of accountability. so everything is going well until the police actually got
their say? yeah. and the police get their say and then suddenly a riot breaks out inside the courthouse? i guess cops are supposed to just sit back and do absolutely nothing. and just just take it. it s unbelievable. it is unbelievable. the national narrative over the past six months has been disgraceful towards cops. i don t disagree with that. i think it s been an unfair conversation. a lot of good points to be made. a lot of very real feelings out there. but my god look at what they have to do for a living and let s try and understand where they re coming from and meet in the middle. usa today, mcdonald s named a new ceo, steve easter easterbrook easterbrook, as sales continue to slide. the news drove the fast food giant stock up 3%. in after hours trading. the decision comes after months of sharp drops in sales and mounting criticism over worker compensation. mcdonald s has more than 36,000 locations in over 100 countries. it s a tough business. very. the ceo who is leaving, i
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pulitzer prize winning columnist and msnbc analyst eugene robinson is joining us. we have a couple of must reads. jonah goed berg obama the sentlementalists, three
explanations dominate speculation about what obama is up to. the first is he s trying to lay the groundwork for his successor, presumptive nominee hillary clinton. the second is that he s trying to pad his legacy. the third is that he s trying to troll or bait the gop into debating his agenda rather than pursuing its own are all plausible. but there s a fourth idea. disagreement of him is proof of ignorance, bad faith, or dog what tichl. negotiating requires acknowledging that people who disagree with you have a legitimate point of view. i agree with jonah. that s why i want to go to you first to refute it. i would not agree completely. i think since we ve had, since woodrow wilson quite a few presidents who were sure they were right and were sure others were wrong. i think if you look at the way president obama has approached his agenda his ideas, for example, he wanted to do
universal health care, he picked a republican idea that came out of the heritage foundation and was first implemented by mitt romney in massachusetts. so it s not as if he had refused to acknowledge that there are good ideas from the other side of the aisle. so, systemam stein, what do you think of this argument that president obama is trolling or lay the groundwork for hillary clinton, something in between or all of the above? it s obvious that the president that emerged after the 2014 elections is not the president that republicans thought would emerge after the 2014 elections. you know he has gone forward with his immigration plan. he s got this deal with cuba. he s continuing to pursue iran negotiations. this all ticks off republicans in congress who assume that the elections would deliver many. but gene s points are valid and sort of go against what jonah is talking about here. it s not just health care where he adopted
oh, guys i can t hear that twice. i cannot hear that twice. for two years hold on. that he adopted the republican plan for health care. you re going back to mitt romney. he didn t he did not engage republicans at all in health care. they were shut out. it was a democrats that were running it. hold on. i have now i have now i ve protested. you guy goes back to your i m going the sit here and sip. i was talking about for two years, joe just to correct the record. just to correct the record there were many instances during the health care fight when the president struggled to get republicans to try to get republicans to sign on to ideas they had proposed. but robert the president struggled that was years ago. you know that was some time ago. and my point is let s bring in our third person that s going to disagree with me. robert gibbs. you don t know if he will. robert gibbs, this president has not it has seem to a lot
of neutral observers that this president has said this is my position. now you come to me. i m going to keep arguing and debateing until you come to me. it seems he did it in the state of the union address. am i wrong? look at all the liberals surrounding me. i don t know why you picked bringing me into this argument to think i was going to agree with you on this. i don t. i have six liberal on this show to keep it fair. well, so maybe if you go back to jonah s list it appears as if the trolling and baiting argument has worked pretty well on you. so maybe that is exactly what the president was trying to do. it hasn t worked on me will at all. i m right and you re wrong and everything is fine. i m supposed to sit here and listen to you guys say that the president s plan to turn health care over to the government is a republican idea. you guys can live in that fantasy world if you want. i ll sit here and smile. it s not just health care. there was a two-year period
after the 2010 elections in which the president did try to meet republicans when it came to deficit reduction. a whole pursuit of this big deficit reduction bill with john boehner boehner. that was a deal largely on republican terms. it s not what democrats wanted. the president created a commission to deal with the debt and then he himself authored it. so did paul ryan though. what are we talking about? the whole concept of deficit reduction was inherently a republican concept in 2011 and the president went after. he angered a lot of liberals in his own party over that. are we not going to acknowledge that was not a movement toward bane boehner s direction? we re going to acknowledge that we will agree to disagree and we re never going to get anywhere on this topic. let s move to another topic. american sniper. jeffrey goldberg do you hate american sniper and the american flag, too? no.
let s go let s go i wasn t talking about you. i was talking about the person over there. so let s go to jeffrey goldberg writes in the atlantic, the netanyahu disaster. people are tweeting probably some don t know we re very good friends and they don t understand that we re joking and having a great time. that s the thing. people feel you pick on me sometimesnd i want to i have to make it clear that we are friends. and that you are picking on me. i will accept it. i will accept it. it s called morning joe. you tell your mother i m sorry she thinks i m picking on you. you need to stop it. sam stein s mother sorry to to saw her at a party. she choked me. not true. i know. i love her. i m sure i would love your mom. hurry. the netanyahu disaster by jeffrey goldberg can you read this? faced with an american president who he believes is willing to strike a flawed deal with iran.
netanyahu has made the second worst choice he could make. he has not attacked iran which is good. an israeli attack holds the promise of disaster. but he has decided to ruin his relations with obama. the manner and execution and overall tone-deafness of netanyahu s recent ploy suggests that he and his current ambassador don t understand how to manage israel s relationships in washington. netanyahu wants a role in shaping the iranian nuclear agreement should one materialize. his recent actions suggest that he doesn t quite know what he s doing. do you agree? richard haass, jeffrey goldberg, not exactly anti-israel. i mean this criticism is especially stinging i think coming from jeffrey who has been in my opinion, very fair towards israel when other journalists haven t been. it should be tough and it should be. it should be aimed at the prime minister of israel has behaved
badly here. this is not something you should do. and the speaker of the house has behaved badly. foreign policy cannot be conducted through the prism of israeli domestic politics or american domestic politics. why did boehner do it? why is netanyahu doing it? it comes on the eve of the israeli elections. he sees it will help him. beating netanyahu i believe has made the strategic decision that the next two years relationship with the united states will do an end run around the white house. he s discounting it. gene robinson can you think of you ve been in washington and around the world a very long time. can you think of another example of something like this happening? absolutely not. i mean this is really unprecedented. this sort of, you know invitation from the speaker of the house to a foreign leader to address a joint session in this manner. it s just wrong. he shouldn t have done it. i don t know what john boehner was thinking. let s bring in robert gibbs. robert what do you think?
well, i think i m struck by what richard said. i m struck by what former ambassador michael orrin said. i wonder if the prime minister looks back at this and doesn t think now that the costs greatly exceed the benefits. i think something in like foreign policy and diplomacy to do something like this where the costs greatly exceed the benefits in your relationship with your best and strongest ally, i think is a bad move to make. the ability to manage the most important bilateral relationship is critical. netanyahu is taking a big risk here because this could backfire here if he s seen as mismanaging. eugene robinson, thank you. coming up meet the man who would have been running the entire country if something catastrophic had happened at the capital last tuesday night. transportation secretary anthony foxx joins us next on morning joe.
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m. all right. here with us now transportation secretary anthony foxx who is urging congress to pass a multi-year transportation funding bill. the $11 billion eight-month highway bill approved last year is set to expire in may. in may. how bad is the situation right now? it s pretty bad. what happens if it expires and they don t have a long-term plan? what will happen is states and local governments will stop projects across the country because the money is just not there. how bad is infrastructure crisis in america right now? it s really bad. the american society of civil engineers estimates we have a $1 trillion infrastructure deficit between now and 2020. congress has passed 32 short-term measures in the last six years. that means the state and local governments are to blame. people commuting, we always
complain. how things are crumbling. it s bad. what are the dangers of not coming up with a long-term plan to rebuild america s infrastructure. this is a republican idea by the way. i was the one who started the enter state system. yeah, the problem is that projects are not getting done. so whether it s maintaining bridges and roadways or whether it s building new capacity to reduce congestion i think most american people are starting to see longer travel times. that s why, mika the latest nbc/ wall street journal poll, the fourth, i think, the fourth item listed right below jobs isis, and forget the third one, the fourth was rebuild america s infrastructure. when you start seeing that up there it is we re at a tipping point now and americans are sick and tired of crumbling roads. what is it doing to take? is it go going to make a massive bridge collapse or something like that? aren t we at a crisis point right now? we are at a crisis point. we ve had bridge collapses. i know we ve had sefrlt. minnesota.
yes. i m talking catastrophic. i m encouraged by some of the bipartisan signals we re hearing from washington that this is one of the things that people feel like they can agree on. but the proof is in the pudding. congress has got to do something. do we need a gas tax? why don t we do it that way? we believe you can do it through business tax reform. we put a proposal out there to increase money in infrastructure doing that. we ve also said we will listen to what congress coalesces behind. all right. raise a lot moremone money with gas tax. drones. this is important. there s no law right now. these drones are just out there and there s more and more of them and nobody knows what to do with them or how to control them or what rules to put around them. we are working with the faa and the omb on a rule on small uas drones. and we think that rule will move forward. you need to hurry because my dad has one. does he? yes.
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all right. welcome back to morning joe. it is the top of the hour. it s going to be a beautiful morning. beautiful. a little cold but beautiful. ayman is still with us. good lord. not sure how that happened. who are you going to kick around. i m wait for security to come and grab me. along with sam stein. we re having a robust debate. even in the commercial break. robert gibbs. join the conversation senior editor of the news website, gideon
gideon. welcome back. very nice. excited to be here. you can tell. he saw what happened to me. i m not sure. stiff upper lip. just in politico s mike allen reportering in the playbook that hillary clinton may wait until july to formally launch a presidential bid with a weak democratic field, clinton could sit back and develop her staff and message. as mike points out, it keeps her out of the fray that much longer and some allies are considering the possibility she may not have to debate before the general election. with us now, political reporter from the new york times amy. very good to have you onboard. you write about another dynamic in play here. in the new york times. here s part of it. they have called senator elizabeth warren an extremely attractive candidate in 2016 presidential campaign. they have said that she is the hottest commodity in the democratic party. those glowing compliments are not from the liberal activists who are trying to persuade ms.
warren to challenge ms. clinton. they come from conservatives who are eager to drum up contentious democratic primary and who see ms. warren as best positioned to weaken and potentially defeat mrs. clinton. amy, it is kind of a ploy to ulz try and bring in someone who they think will mess up the parade. is that what you re doing? mischief going on here. i don t think mike huckabee and michele bachmann are swooning or elizabeth warren because of her policies. what do they make of her? do they think she can t win and she s so far left she would be good mix in with hillary clinton just to bring hillary down? i think there s an element of that. maybe the way democrats see congressman ted cruz. but i also think that they just see mike allen s store i have this morning, they see hillary clinton getting an easy ride in the democratic primary. on their own side they see a wide field of republicans and long ideological battle and they would like hillary clinton to have to be tested to have to spend the money, to also as we saw in the midterms elizabeth
warren can push hillary clinton to the left in an uncomfortable way. hillary clinton got off message talking about don t let anybody tell you that it s business corporations that create jobs. i think republicans seized on that moment, hey warren could really get her off message. let s talk about mike allen s report today. you ve been covering all things clinton for a long time. so much so when you go to bathroom stalls of the clinton initiative they send swarms of handlers at you to make sure that you bathroomgate. yes. it is a true story. kind of taking sort of the control freak thing to a bizarre level. but what do you make of this story mike allen is breaking this morning does it sound feasible? have you heard any talk about this? i definitely have heard talk she could push it to the summer. i did something in mike allen s report that i also heard is that she could launch this exploratory committee in april.
allow her to raise money and set up infrastructure. legal bureaucracy things she has to work out in the campaign and then start with the big splashy declaration in the summer. i also hear from people who say iowans want her here soon. yeah she came to the steak fry and she kind of was cool and they said, hey, just ask for our vote. they re tough there. i think they would like to see her there before the summer. amy, you write about republicans perhaps being excited about elizabeth warren getting in a race versus hillary clinton. how are democrats feeling about that idea and the idea of hillary clinton running with a clear field? doesn t it make her a better candidate if she can have to fight a little bit and stay on her toes so she s not sitting there at the line waiting for it to begin? image of inechtibility that hurt her at the last time and clinton allies say it would be so great if she had someone seriously challenging her in a primary. she would have to go through the
debates and make her a better candidate. we saw during her book tour there were some clumsiness in interviews and interactions that she could work through in a primary. so given what amy just said joe, is it possible some republicans who are using elizabeth warren in this way are wrong about elizabeth warren? i think elizabeth warren could bring a lot of excitement to the democratic party. i think most importantly, she would make hillary clinton a better candidate going into the general election. but any republican that is trying to stop the field from being cleared, i think is actually doing the republican party a disservice because i think like everybody said like you suggested, willie a tough debate a tough campaign makes you better. hillary clinton was horrific at the beginning of her campaign against barack obama. but by this spring she was great. i think the republicans had that problem several times and the time that we ve been on the airborne where the field was so
weak. yeah. and if nobody is in the field and if you re not debating then you make your first mistake in the fall of 2016 in the debate around that s a nightmare for hillary, it s a nightmare for the democratic party. the first time i ran we had 11 people, i think, running. independents republicans, all killing each other. and the democrat had nobody on his side. yeah. and by the time we get past the primary in september, we were running and gunning, had this extraordinary i made all of my stupid mistakes a year earlier. my opponent made all of his stupid mistakes in the three months before the election. and he was supposed to win. i ended up getting 62% of the vote. and i ve always believed that s because he ran unopposed. and, you know, he didn t have a preseason. i think it also helped this book tour which everyone calls so disastrous for hillary clinton, willie that s another way of weeding out what doesn t work. the page turns so unbelievably
abruptly in politics. i think she she ll have a good answer about her personal wealth i m sure after the book tour. that will be forgotten. and day marriage and all the other things she stumbled. and the middle class. i wonder if elizabeth warren wants to be the one to serve that purpose. she s been supportive of hillary clinton. she signed on to support hillary s campaign. does she want to be the one to put some dents in her? i don t think she does. i think she wants to be talked about but you ve got a guy like james webb ready for a fight. i think elizabeth warren wants to be drive that conversation and she s sort of gotten behind a hillary campaign but not whole heartedly. she wants to be drive that conversation. i would just say in her 2003 book senator warren did take some shots at hillary clinton. so she s done a it before. all right. mitt romney is atop the polls and back on the road. new poll shows him out front of jeb bush and scott walker in
south carolina. though the most recent new hampshire polling is from november, it too, shows romney leading the pact. last night the two-time presidential candidate was at mississippi state university talking to students and testing out the themes he would use should he go for a third presidential campaign. the event was closed to cameras but reporters on hand said he seemed looser. he admitted he was thinking about running again, even discussing his mormon faith. something he reported to devil in to in 2012. he took shots at the president s agenda calling out hillary clinton by name. he also spoke about eliminating poverty in america from the heart of the poorest state in the country. sam stein, mitt romney s been talking about the possibility of making a decision over the next couple of weeks. you look at yet another poll this time in south carolina. a state where he didn t do so
well before because a lot of team whispered because he was a mormon and that just south carolina said that didn t work. he s in first place in south carolina. he s in first place in new hampshire. he s in first place in iowa. that either speaks to his strength all these years later or the weakness of the rest of the field. do you think he s going to go? well, the polls are certainly inviting, right? if you look at that in your mitt romney you think to yourself i have an obvious path to victory. the one bit of caution i would throw on there is that he s by definition the most well-known republican in the field. he ran for president last time. folks in south carolina are particularly familiar with scott walker at this juncture. two things. one, he s clearly, if he does run he s clearly leaning more into his biography than he did in 2012 talk about his mormon faith. as i read in reports from yesterday s speech, openly talking about his own book which can be an uncomfortable topic. the last thing we were talking about is how elizabeth warren
might affect the democratic race. it seems that elizabeth warren is affecting the democratic race and republican race. i can t imagine that mitt romney would make poverty and income inequality such a prominent focus of his potential campaign if it weren t for elizabeth warren s aft on the broader political conversation in general. income inequality is not something that republicans were talking about a lot in 2012. one thing that change sd that elizabeth warren came into the senate. let s didgideon, bring you in and talk about what s going on. israel hezbollah trade attacks. gop won t delay netanyahu talk. chaos in the middle east and also chaos in our political system. netanyahu coming to america. what s the impact? netanyahu coming to america? yes. israel for the peace process. i think in israel the way this is perceived is that he is trying to bolster his popularity
there ahead of the election by going against obama who the israelis see as basically an enemy of israel. whether that will work or not is debatable. it could backfire. some israelis, oh, no you re alienating our best ally the united states. i think netanyahu is playing a dangerous game there. whether or not that will play out, we will see. it is mainly about the iranian negotiations right? yes. he wants to derail the iranian negotiation because he thinks that looking tough on iran will help him get votes. what is the state of the iranian negotiations from everything that you ve seen or heard? i mean it seems to me as if it s going it s proceeding slowly but it s proceeding. i feel like this people involved in the negotiations really think they have a chaps of getting a deal. and ultimately we only know that works when it s resolved when a deal is reached. but whether or not that prevents iran from developing a bomb or something, we don t know.
ayman, obviously some americans being criticized from the right for negotiating with iran and iran some iranian leaders have been criticized for talking to walking with john kerry. these negotiations fraught on both sides a lot of political pitfalls. you have hawks from the iranian government and particularly the revolutionary guard. many of them don t want to see iran enter into these talks with the united states. and more importantly, feel that any kind of deal may be giving up too much of iranian sovereignty to international demands just before the lifting of the economic sanctions. there is definitely that factor as well that s shaping iran from their right. what about some of the things we saw, the attack from hezbollah out in lebanon against israel. just for our people watching, what s happening right now in that part of the world? about ten days ago israel carried out a strike in syria that killed a hezbollah commander and iranian general. since then hezbollah has been
vowing to revenge and retaliate for that attack. it seems that retaliation happened yesterday in that attack in which two israeli soldiers killed, seven wounded. it was a limited attack in the serns it did not broaden out a full-scale war. it seems early indications both sides want to contain this. they don t want to have a repeat of 2006 where it was a full-blown war between the two sides. for the time being, there was an israeli response immediately, artillery fire and shelling but it doesn t look like this is going to go full bleenown. one more story. yesterday, 54 years after nine men were imprisoned for a peaceful anti-segregation protest, their convictions were vacated by a judge in south carolina. the men were arrested for sitting at a restaurant in rock hill back in 1961. their decision to serve their sentence and work on a chain gang spurred the jail no bail movement in the south. after the ruling the judge told
the men he quote, we cannot rewrite history but we can right history. the flawed and unconstitutional evidence upon reporter: in a packed courthouse on an emotional day the men known as friendship nine finally had their convictions overturned. 54 years after they were jailed for sitting at a whites only lunch counter. defendants convictions for trespassing in january of 1961 are vacated. reporter: the story of the friendship nine began in the early 1960s when african-americans risked beatings and arrests to sit at segregated lunch counters in the jim crow south. in rock hill south carolina a group of students from friendship college came here to the then five and dime to sit in these chairs at this counter to challenge segregation. i remember being grabbed up by my belt and thrown to the floor and dragged out of the
store. by whoomm? police officers. reporter: the protesters were then dragged to jail. the part that got me is when they put me in the cell and closed that door. and that cling. you can still hear it. reporter: what happened next after that cell door slammed would define the friendship nine and re-energize the american civil rights movement. instead of paying bail to get out, the friend ship nine chose to serve their 30-day sentence of hard labor, drawing lots of attention. the effort to have their sentences overturned was inspired by children s author kimberly johnson who wrote a book about them. now we get a chance to see that justice does find its way back. reporter: in court the south carolina solicitor spoke directly to the friendship nine. so allow me to take this opportunity to extend to each of you my heartfelt apologies for what happened to you in 1961. it was wrong. i have chills. that s amazing.
incredible story. that s an incredible story. another remarkable piece of poetry in this story. the circuit court judge yesterday vacated the sentence and conviction was the nephew of the judge who sentenced these guys 54 years ago. same family. the story comes around. unbelievable. still ahead on morning joe, miss universe paulina vega is here and thomas roberts will escort her to the set of monlg to protect her from me? wait a minute. why? of course. i do like to try on the crowns because i had this secret dream when i was a child that never was fulfilled. what s that that you were going to steal a queen s crown? weird dream. then actress and model molly sims joins us at 8:30 to teach us to train like a supermodel? but first, football head injuries are really hurting kids under twvl. there s also a big campaign to get moms involved with football to understand the safety measures. we ll talk about that as well. you re watching morning joe. we ll be right back.
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a new study has found that nfl veterans who began playing football before age 12 developed more severe cognitive problems than those who started when they were older. boston university school of medicine distributed mental tests to 42 former nfl players suffering mental disorders. players who began playing tackle football before age 12 scored lower on the tests than those who began later. earlier studies by the same researchers found that children are more likely to experience prolonged recovery issues from concussions. when did you start playing? fifth grade. explains everything. i started at 8 which explains a lot. my parents put me in a league as an 8-year-old with like 12-year-old kids. it was like a big difference. these studies are giving teams and parents a lot of information to work with.
front page of the new york times today, the program for moms to learn the safety measures that are now they actually play what safety measures they re putting in place to prevent the injuries. it may not look cool, but, you know i see these football helmets now where they practice where they have protection on the outside. that may not make people feel cool, i think that s what they have to move to. i don t know. even in the nfl now, practices are lighter. they trust they re going to hit on sunday but they don t hit on wednesday, thursday, and friday. they just don t. they shell drills. they re trying. it will be interesting to see if this this changes are happening now where kids are starting to play soccer. when do we start to see that in the nfl or do we? my hunch is that the level of athlete who plays in the nfl, whether it s in florida or texas or southern california, they re not playing soccer. they re going to keep playing football. what about george w. is he going to play football? i think growing up in new york city you re less likely to play football because there s no space, nowhere to play.
tough call. if i had a choice probably wouldn t have him play football. would you? no. knowing what i know now. grew up in the south. i mean football was king. and i our entire life. not only were the falls spent playing football springs. we didn t play you weren t allowed to play baseball. you played fall football and spring football and in the summer, you lifted weights. it was 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, all year long. and it was our life. and we absolutely loved it. but, no i don t think i would. not right now. until other saufity measures are taken. now while we re on the topic of football now to one of the most talked about aspects of the super bowl, the ads. nbc universal says all the commercial slots have sold out to about 70 advertisers. wow. they re going for about $4.5 million a pop. this year s lineup will feature the first ever super bowl commercial on domestic violence. it is a chilling public service
announcement from the no more campaign and features an actual call to 911. take a look. 911. operator, 911. where is the emergency? 127 brennan. what s going on there. i would like to order a pizza for delivery. you reached 911. this is an emergency line. large half pepperoni, half mushroom. you know you called 911. do you know how long it will be? okay. ma am, is everything okay over there? do you have an emergency or not? yes. and you are unable to talk because right. right. is there someone in the room with you? just say yes or no. yes. okay. it looks like i have an officer about a mile from your location. are there any weapons in our house? no. can you stay on the phone with me? no sue you soon. thank you. whoa. that s an actual call. wow.
okay. according to how smart was she, by the way? brilliant. according to the wall street journal and desperate situation obviously, the nfl financed the spot and donated airtime to run it. that s smart. that s good. a lot of levels. very good timing. finally. nd there are a lot of ads that are going to break through, too. that obviously is waiting. oh, no. we re going to have a good time. budweiser hope for another hit. they unleashed the new lost dog ad. like last year it features the bond between a clydesdale and cute little puppy. when i go out i know i m going to be i m going to be the man who goes along with you
i ll walk 300 miles and i ll walk 500 more willie i miss the budweiser ferret. i want the bid wiser ferret to come back. he wants bud s mackenzie back toos. it already received over 5 million views. meantime go daddy has pulled its ad that was supposed to be a riff on the budweiser spot. really? godaddy, they go for it. can we see it? yeah. it was a immediate backlash when it was released when the critics slamming the portrayal of the lost puppy reuniting with its owner. look it s buddy! i m so glad you made it home. because i just sold you on this website i built with godaddy. ship him out. awful. just awful. now, that s an ad. why did they pull that? she looks like what s that
movie? fatal attraction ? yes. that little puppy finds it all of the way back home. genius strategy. they put it out there. they get all of this attention and then pull it and then run something else. don t have to pay the millions of dollars. they re going to run a different ad. have the second one ready to go. godaddy. they do it. they released a statement and so the dude s drinking beer like that. dude. hey. i m going to build a website. all right. godaddy released a statement saying it underestimated the emotional response to the ad and decided to pull it once the controversy began to swirl. those goless thedaddy, did you like it? i liked it a lot. it was harsh. it was awesome. coming up why senator pat toomey may be the sweetest man in washington. i don t understand. please explain. that s weird. yes. i think that s inappropriate. sweet and adorable. we ll be right back.
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here onset, former cia station chief of islamabad, pakistan and former director of the cia counter terrorism center robert grnwa, he s out with a book 88 days to kandahar a cia diary, wow. pat toomey how are we doing right now and what a lot of republicans still dall war on terror? i don t think it s going so well, joe. i m pretty worried about this right now. of course, with right in the front of us in the banking committee is a question of whether or not to prospectively impose tougher sanctions on iran if iranians choose for the third consecutive time to talk away from the able to and not reach an agreement. i think it was a mistake to ease the sanctions recently. andic we should impose these sanctions. you know these guys this is the most dangerous regime in the world. actively supporting and financing terrorism. you look at what they re doing throughout the middle east
continuing to effectively control hezbollah. they ve got a huge footprint in syria as well as iraq. they re supporting assad while he massacres his own people. last week they knocked out through proxies a government that was pretty cooperative with the united states and yemen. they re doing this all awhile we re supposed to be negotiating an agreement and the president tells us don t pass even conditional prospective sanctions because it might offend the iranians and they might leaf the table. that s a pretty worrying sign about how committed they are to reaching an agreement. robert, we sit and we talk about isis. we talk about iran. we talk about obviously the chaos that s been going on in the middle east for a decade. but you talk to foreign policy experts quietly off the record. and they will always tell you there s one country they are the most concerned about, it s a country you ve written about. pakistan. tell us about your book. well, this is it s hard it s adventure story. it takes us from the point immediately after 9/11 when we
were suddenly confronted with what are we going to do in afghanistan, one of most remote primitive countries in the world, terrorist safe haven. how do we address it the situation. nd i was called upon by george tenet at the time to put together a template for how we would conduct this war. and it was approved by the president and we rolled forward. in the early days we were quite successful. one frustration after another with pakistan. what a complex relationship, where the pakistanis didn t trust us because they thought we went back on our word time and time again. then we get there and pay billions of dollars to musharraf, feel like he betrayed us. explain the relationship. are they an ally an enemy, what are they? it s a very complicated relationship. yes. and we re sort of condemned to deal with each other. there are issues that affect us both, but we perceive our national interests in very different ways. so while the pakistanis
after 9/11 they consider it to be in their interest to cooperate with us against al qaeda, their attitude toward the afghan taliban was much, much more koch my indicatecomplicated. i think i saw a pew poll op countries across the world and what they thought about us. i i think we were at the bottom of the pakistanis. they have a very negative impression of us. why? it dates back decades. virtually everything in south asia. they believe they helped us a great deal to drive the soviets out of afghanistan. then we turned our backs on them pep once . once again we decided that pakistanis were all right after 9/11. now our relationship with them is much more problematic. we ve been spending years bombing their territory. great many pakistanis who take exception to that. let s bring pat toomey back in to this. pat, one of the great frustrations about the afghanistan war for me why i opposed tripling the troops in 2009 is because every expert we
had on here including at the time, richard holbrooke would come on and say why afghanistan? the answer was because of pakistan. right. i would say well, why aren t we in pakistan then? obviously we can t be in pakistan. but this is the on going frustration. we want to occupy afghanistan because of the problems with we have with pakistan. it s been maddening frustrating. obviously it s difficult to deal with a government when they re writ doesn t extend throughout the entire country. infiltrated with people extremely sympathetic to the taliban certainly. probably to al qaeda. enormous poverty. they ve got nuclear weapons. it s just it s just very very difficult. no question about it. willie? first of all, for homeland fans, this is a real life kerry matt matteson. never seen the show? you should see it it will make you very angry but you should see it. there is this great moment in this past season where saul cia
director, is sitting there talking to the former head of the isi. i thought they really did get the very complex relationship. these two men who personally liked each other but couldn t be further apart on their views of the world. a lot of tension which i think existed in the real world and still does, too. i have to ask you, although you weren t there. 2002 i guess you left station chief. the issue of osama bin laden and where he was found, where he was killed, how long he had been there, and who might have been protecting him i side that country. knowing what you know about pakistan, what are your suspicions about the pakistani government s role or the isi s role in protecting osama bin laden? you know, the circumstantial evidence is pretty damning. here you have osama bin laden arguably the most wanted man in the world who is in a pakistani army town not a mile from the military academy of pakistan. and people believe that the
pakistanis had to have known about this. in fact, i believe they didn t. really? yes. you don t think the isi knew about it? i don t believe they did. i don t believe they did. the concern that i would have had at the time if it was my decision, go or no go launch this raid or not given the circumstances that we might actually wind up in a shooting war with pakistan as a result i would have said that we had to do this on a covert basis om not because i believe the isi and pakistan government placed him there and had him under their protection but they might have since then inadvertently found him there and in which case they would have done nothing simply because he was too hot to handle. for them to arrest him and turn it over to the americans would have been political dynamite in pakistan. so you think someone knew he was there. he had his own people. i felt all eye long once he got into pakistan with a small entourage he would be able to hide virtually anywhere indefinitely. it s really not all that difficult. and i think that s precisely what happened. in fact, the pakistanis named a
commission to look into this and it was so explosive that they never publicly revealed the results of the commission. it was leaked to the press. that s why we know about it now. but they concluded, they themselves, the members of the commission, were very very skeptical at the outset. but they concluded that in fact, nobody in the leadership structure knew that he was there. all right. and before we go senator pat toomey, you re the candy man. candy man. you are the guy. sweetest guy in d.c. exactly right. we ve had a candy desk on the senate floor for over 50 years. now it is back where it belongs. the control of a senator from the state that is the leading confectioner in america. we have it very well stocked. i love it. suddenly i ve become a more popular senator. i don t know why. who takes the most candy? i m sworn to secrecy on that but i ve got colleagues loading up the pockets. that s like mika. we rp at an event this weekend and mika grabbing stuff. scott walker
he caught me. wondering whether no he caught me. he said his mom does that. senator pat toomey thank you so much. robert, thank you for being with us. fantastic. we would love to have you back. the book is 88 days to kandahar. thank you for sharing that with us. still ahead, miss universe paulina vega supermodel molly sims and beth stern who has to put up with a guy named howard every day. we ll be right back. when salesman alan ames books his room at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can check in and power up before his big meeting. and when alan gets all powered up, ya know what happens? i think the numbers speak for themselves. i m sold! he s a selling machine! put it there. and there, and there, and there. la quinta inns and suites
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strangers crashed my car, they ate my food, and they wore my pants. that sounds like the junior year of college for me. actually it s tales from the sharing economy. we launched joel stein to explore the new frontier. he rented his mini cooper to an italian woman who got into an accident. he cooked dinner for eight people put a pair of pants and hockey skates. and his life drew the line to giving over their house to air b and b. this is one of those shifts that creeps up on you and then you find that everything about the economy. air b and b when it first launched you couldn t get a venture capitalist to look at it. now valued at $13 billion which is half the size of hilton which actually owns hotels. anybody use air b and b here? sam, you re a millennial. i know that because you re in four fantasy football leagues, you play xbox all day. what is air b and b like?
are you into this sharing economy? i say that about my son, just joking. let me just pause for a second and absorb all of those criticisms. i ve used air b and b. i really enjoyed the service. obviously depends on whose house or apartment you end up with. there s another user feedback to get a sense of where you re going. pictures and everything. try to sexually assault you? what are you talking about? geez, if they had i wouldn t talk about it on air, either. but, no that didn t happen. we went to a bar actually in new jersey. got to rehn out the bar. it was great. another element of sharing economy, on the bottom floor of the bar they were hosting this group cooking class that we just sort of crashed. it was a really wonderful experience. i enjoy it. i would recommend it to other people. we don t trust government we don t trust institutions. but we trust a complete stranger. yes. somehow the trust economy has
now taken hold in a way that uber is bigger than delta or viacom or fedex. these companies are growing so fast. my daughter just asked me for an uber account. willie you re a big sharer. uber. i haven t gone airbnb. whether or not we think it s uncomfortable or yucky, the proof is in the numbers. uber is valued at 41$41 billion. they re doing well. a lot of feel are using them. and i think it s one of those things nancy, where you it feels a little scary at first and then maybe five years from now everyone will be doing it. right. i don t think it s an accident that a lot of the founders of these companies came out of places like ebay which sort of the trust and safety rate each other mechanisms that got people over their suspicion and dealing with strangers. fascinating you say that because i may have bought something on ebay five years ago. right. now, no problem with it at all because you actually learn to trust the ratings. so i think the interesting thing here is unless i m
mistaken, is uber sort of a middle ground between a cab and car service? it s a car service. very nice cars. not as expensive. you can do uber taxi too. what i am seeing here especially with hotels is i think people are getting sick of how ridiculously expensive fees are in hotels. yeah. it is a joke what they charge for. freelancers. what is happening now is you have professional cab drivers and people who casually use their car as an extra income source. you have actual hotel chains and then you have people turning their hotels. so at what point do you, mika, or you, joe, become a corporation. at what point do you have to abide by safety rules and disability access and all those sorts of regulations. this is where the big fight is. we have now reached the economy is mature enough the regulators and governments, private companies, are fighting back hard because potentially takes a huge bite out of established industries. are you a sharer? no. you don t like to share?
no. no. i understand. my sister and i still struggle over things. your sister is so nice. you must be the problem. i m the younger bratty one. yeah. issues. you re not are you an uber guy? no. uh-uh. he won t do airbnb. no i don t want to wake up in a bathtub full of ice that says call 911, your liver has been taken. s that my fear. that happened to me once. someone is going to have keys to the apartment or get in and get your stuff. i don t know why, i just feel safer at a hotel. i m scared at my own house let alone someone else. i ve got to show this shot because it s a classic shot of a classic guy. boris, baby. iboris. he is p mayor of london. born in new york city. one day he might be p t. prime minister. he s cool. we re going the look for the new issue of time magazine. nancy gibbs, thank you. up next she was crowned miss universe. oh, yeah. but not without a bit of
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please come over to the center of the stage. and as you step forward, let me remind you that one of you is about to become miss universe. so take a deep breath. make a mental impresent, because this is a very special moment in your lives. okay? now if for any reason the new miss universe cannot fulfill her duty, the first runner-up will take over. and miss universe is colombia! i was nervous just watching that. that s amazing! that was miss colombia paulina vega crowned miss universe 2015. what happened to miss puerto rico? she collapsed? i don t know. she was my roommate i don t know. in the commercial break, right before. she s okay. i m sure. they handed me the card and
i m looking at the card and then i heard, ka-clump-clump, and then i look over an it s just hair and heels on the ground and i didn t know what happened. this happened actually to eamon before he came on-set. they told me they were going to want me on the show she s okay? are you sure? yes. of course, i m sure. she just said she s okay in kind of a very confident way? it was a long show and a lot of pressure obviously. probably dehydrated. this was the very very end, but you soared through the competition, as i said earlier, added this it factor about you. a lot of people were disappointed jamaica did not make it further in the top five. did you see her as one of your biggest threats? of course of course. jamaica, the elegance very spontaneous. but the whole group, you can find prepared girls, intelligent, beautiful, so you never know what is going to
happen until the end. so she tripped on her dress right here. hold on. wait. oops. oh, come on come on. sorry. i can show you how to trip on a dress. so what was it like the week being down there with all of those wonderful women from all across the world and, of course the donald. of course. donald. i think he s hilarious. he s something something. it was great for me because i really feel like i was in colombia. i was real lucky, all the colombians and venezuelan people so i was really like comfortable. what did you like the most about it but also what were some of the things you guys had to do behind the scenes a lot of work that was a little tiresome? i don t know. i just was, like having fun. something weird? nothing. just sleep a few hours only. not talk with your family but everything was really real and we are just like young girls
having fun. what did your parents say after you won? what was the first thing your family said? they were so proud, because they were with me the whole time one month before preern preparing myself. not only learning how to do the makeup, but my father was like my teacher for of the last question, so he was really nervous. really nervous. you did a great job, but the moment was when paulina comes out and gavin mcgraw is singing his song you know and then the flames burst on the graphic behind her. i saw this. and she hits her mark and then takes his hand and then starts singing with him. awesome. that s that was the moment. how would you like the year to go? what do you hope to accomplish this year? well i think that the whole point of this experience it s become a new person. pts learn it s learn, it s, i don t know, become a better person a better
professional a better paulina. a better version of myself. i think that s the whole point. learn about different culture, help in different countries and learn just more about me. i ll take that. and how was thomas? dealing with thomas? was that okay? was i all right? is he okay. well he s here so i will say that he s okay. no. you were great. we really loved when we heard your name. were very happy. thomas wants to know. miss canada i was obsessed with her national costume and shegifted me this hockey stick, and i didn t know if paulina would need it but i wanted pass thatology to you s. that the crown? very modern and different. is it real? mika are you wear it? i ll try, but you know i m kind of washed up. la la la la la. hold on. can you put this on s. that bad? i m sorry paulina. i m going to watch your head
on the lights. here we go. here we go. i don t want to the new miss universe is oh no. mika! right. okay. everyone, laugh together. okay. congratulations. what else needs to be said? nothing. it looks better on you. really? oh, my i think we need to exchange jobs. really? i think so. here you go. get over here. right now. sit down. calm on paulina. you re going to read the tease. perfect. so what s happening today, what does obama say? now you can read this tease. you know that i m like a little bit blind. i have contacts. i need to say, more back with this guy. he s annoying. we ll be right back. more back with this guy, he s annoying, but we ll be right back. exactly. very good. sold! wonderful. thank you.
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we have a lot going on. point out one thing. richard haass is ready for the storm on its way. check out the timberland boots. oh, is he rugged? great suit with the there you go. hey wear them until june just in case. until the blizzard passes. really, did you see that cher is cher this is going to be a shock, but cher is not a chris christie man. no, i didn t know. her latest attack against governor chris christie. she tweeted this thing out. i love ron parnfournier s response though. do we have ron fournier s tweet? says governor christie loses the primary, in other news dawn breaks. what s the suspense? you re killing me? look at her there. you know. she knows geopolitical subtleties. right? the grammy winner tweeted it s more than obnoxious.
is there a more obnoxious man in the usa than the governor of new jersey. chris, sit down and shut up. christie is a malicious bully. cher goes so go. so goes cher. all right. let s go to our top news. yeah. because that s not it. although i m not sure why you did that but no. i just i actually did it i actually i i liked what happened as far as like ron fournier s response. did you see let s go to south carolina quickly, because last night the south carolina polls came out, because last night you had mitt romney. yeah. and he s down in mississippi. uh-huh. right? yep. and people are still saying the establishment is still knocking this guy. go well wait. what s he doing? eating barbecue with the people. shaking hands. make as speech in mississippi state. this guy s running. and it s not an event unless
you eat barbecue in mississippi. and he s attacking hillary clinton. he is in full campaign mode. there you go. and i ve been saying for some time kids asking me what do you think of this mitt romney thing? i ve been saying to the kids hey, kids everybody hates mitt romney, the republican establishment. nobody wants him to run in the peter, except for the people who vote in primaries and every time i say that a new poll comes out in an early critical state that hasn t been first place. it happened last night. showing him out front of jeb bush and scott walker. romney lost the primary there 2012 to newt gingrich. so that s in south carolina. go to iowa. this is in iowa. he s way ahead in iowa. and then you go to new hampshire, you got to go back to november, but even there, you know, you have mitt romney is up, and i just want to know willie geist, if this guy s in first place in every single important state, who expects him
to go i know jeb s people are launches a lot of stuff and, like trying to kneecap him and everything, who expects a guy in first place in iowa, in new hampshire, in south carolina, that he ll just quit? like in all the little guys down below, all of them that are like chattering ah he sucks. he sucks. he sucks. let us run this time. he s no good. he sucks. you know? the thing is you are guess what? what? he s in first place. oh my god. and robert gibbs, i m sorry, somebody pulling 3% 4 hrs percent% should not be talking on mitt romney is not qualified to run because he s still in first place. he is, but if you look at some of the polls, how in south carolina is supposed to know who scott walker is now anyway? i think, look this is about, we re probably 1/10 of a mile into a marathon, and, sure he s in first place, but this is where you have to decide whether you re going to
run the rest of the marathon or not. no, no. absolutely. but the question isn t i mean, you don t get much of a medal for finishing fifth or fourth or third in this marathon. robert i don t think i m not articulating myself very well which of course is par for the course. yeah. as everybody watching morning joe today, this will be no different than any other show for the past eight years. the point i am making is people telling mitt romney that he should not run for president would all run for president if they were in first place in iowa new hampshire, in south carolina in these early polls. my question is it state of mind of mitt romney makes this decision, which will shape the republican field moving forward. we re passed the time oh it s too early. no. this is going to shape the field. what happens in the next month. why would mitt romney not run? if he s in first place in all of these states? and he wants to run? look, i think it s pretty clear that mitt romney wants to run. uh-huh.
even if he didn t want to run a few months ago, whatever clicked in him in the last month and a half whether it was others that got in. whether it was just deciding that he wanted another shot because he hadn t been able to do this i don t think there s anything in these polls in these polls that is likely to stop him. the question look if i was a republican or a republican strategist i would have people ask, is there anything that mitt romney had to deal with in 2011 and 2012 that was a negative for him. right. that he s done a lot or anything quite frankly to mitigate? and i think i think republicans are going to in this election take a longer view on electability, and i think that is not going to be to a great benefit of mitt romney, but, look, i don t disagree these numbers are certainly not going to convince him not to run. it s the dynamic of who he s running again as well. casey hunt you ve been following this closely.
seems to me that mitt romney s out there planning on running and just making sure there s no reasons not to run? hey, mika. yeah pap couple points on this. first, it seems one of the things he s really focused on is trying to present the authentic mitt romney. the speech he gave in mississippi sounded a lot like the one he gave last year at brigham young university in utah. we seem to be hearing from mitt romney the man. at a point when he wasn t yet a candidate. the question is whether or not he can successfully translate that across a campaign. it s more than just talking about it. i mean i remember trying to get access in 2012 to some of the more human sides of mitt romney. i actually went to church with them in new hampshire. they weren t thrilled to see me but one of the only glimpses we got into this part of his life and i think while a lot of reporters who covered him on the trail regularly recognized the guy in that mitt documentary on netflix, a lot of america didn t. exactly. and i think that the second point, too is you know on
this idea of poverty and whether he can redefine himself as somebody not just for the rich you have to remember this isn t just why we talk about the 47%. it s not just that comment. there were hundreds of millions of dollars spent making sure that the american people thought this of mitt romney and it s going to take more to reverse that. i don t know how many times we want to watch that america the beautiful cayman islands ad again. i don t think it s as simple as looking like you care and reaching out to people who need help and putting on some commercials and trying to show a softer side. sam stein, i would say that with mitt romney it s got to be something bigger. it s got to be how our economic security how lifting up the poor helps us on the world stage, and then he might be able to take some of his winning points of the last campaign and apply them to have winning points of the next one? yeah. a few points here. one is, he clearly thinks that he has a platform to make another run of it and i m
guessing i haven t done any reporting on this that the romney camp looks at 2012 and says, took the democrats best shot not much more they were throw at us. there s not much more they can do in 2016. the question are those polls a ceiling or a floor. as for rebranding of authentic mitt, you know it s possible obviously, this could work but, you know i m stuck on the fact that a lot of what people are talking about, mitt supporters, they re saying focus on poverty. change our focus here change our focus there. that s just a communication strategy. it could very well be when the american public voted in 2012 what they didn t like his policy portfolio, not how he talked about his policy portfolio. over the weeks, month, ahead, what the miss campaign probably has to do articulate what specific policies he now will champion as opposed to in 2012 that will alleviate poverty, help us on the world stage and so on and so forth. robert, let me ask you, with
the caveat these polls are early and the numbers will all change. we don t know if at all of those people are running, if you are running against this republican field. let s say it s candidate x, maybe hillary clinton as the democrat, which name on the list, a, scares you the most and, b, which has you licking your chops? anxious to go after mitt romney is that the easy one xwnchts if. if you re a democratic i know the playbook. take it off, dust it off a little bit. i tend to believe that republicans are going to more likely nominate somebody from outside of washington. i think a governor like scott walker, who s had a good couple of weeks. i think chris christie will get a pretty solid look at this. i think somebody like a jeb bush. i think if they do go with somebody in washington clearly marco rubio had a few good weeks
and rand paul is somebody that will have to be dealt with throughout this process. that s a small number. look, the truth and reality is republicans have a remarkably deep bench this time. i think that s another thing that might well work against mitt romney. last time quite frankly, he beat a very very weak field of basically herman cane newt gingrich and who was that other guy? um a weak field. can t remember the third. all right, have all of you seen american sniper ? yes. twice. liked it right? i well as movie, yeah yeah. what else was there? what was it? wasn t such a good play. what was that? i meant to say as a story based on the character of a real person and a real book it does not necessarily reflect the book nor the character. wow. okay. i mean i m just that s my opinion. which part of it doesn t accurately reflect?
makes me tired today. he s talking to michael morrison. what do you got? so the film depicting the life of the u.s. navy s.e.a.l. chris kyle which eamon has some detail issues with has already won over audiences here in the u.s. raking in more than $200 million since its release, but also reportedly thrilling audiences in baghdad. some viewers got so into the film in they began shouting out during the screening. the global post reported one moviegoer yelling, shoot him. he has an ied, don t wait for permission. he continued saying i love watching war mothers because especially now they give me the spring to face the imlaumic state. it ran one week at a popular upscale mall. management ended the filming because of the controversy surrounding the killing of muslims. doesn t sound like a terribly scientific study. one guy stood up and yelled, i don t think that reflects
maybe i actually read the nbc news story. it was actually the audience yelling shoot him, shoot him, when the little kid was walking towards him. of course i thought it was fascinating. we were sitting in the audience what do you do? what do you do in baghdad? the nshz nbc news studio stead they were shouting, shoot him, he has an iud. absolutely fascinating. that is interesting. there have been enough people blown up by innocent-looking, you know suspects. it was fascinating. yeah. eamon? go ahead. go ahead. you know if you don t know anything about chris kyle you don t know this was true story, this was a great movie. tremendously entertaining, a lot of value. what do you think the value is of it s a great story. a story if you in fact as the director was saying a story as post-traumatic stress disorder addresses how these vets come home. how they reeblter society, poses
challenges. from that perspective, a compelling, thought-provokes very emotional movie. but when you juxtapose it with the real chris kyle in the story and emerged what kind of personality he was in his own words, very talking about the story when back home in texas, which may not have been true? a lot of stories when back home in texas, a lot of his own personal opinions what he was doing in iraq. how he viewed iraqis. people described as his racist tendencies towards iraqis and muslims going on these killing sprees in iraq on assignment. there are issues wait, wait. killing sprees? chris kyle was going on killing sprees? when he was involved in his own assignments and in terms of what he was doing. right. a lot of the description that has come out from his book and some of the terminology he has used, people have described him as racist, in his personal attitudes about what he was doing overseas. when he was on assignment. i think a lot of guys when they re in warfare, might say
things they shouldn t say. i know we said certainly said quite a few things about the japanese and i m shump the japanese said quite a few things about us. i mean, listen i didn t know the guy. i mean you know i only know what i know through, you know bradley cooper and reading a lot of what that interaction goes. do you want to know war s ugly. the only thing i thought a powerful mother and thest and theaters of what happened at iraq, what happened at home. important. showed him early on what happened on 9/11 and then he obviously went to iraq. it the link between what we did in iraq was in response to 9/11. i wish one in the movie one of his fellow soldiers and basically said hey, don t you know that iraq was not involved in 9/11? and then he could have said yeah but politics is for somebody else. what i care about is protecting myself protecting you, protecting the other guys in my unit. i wish once someone had raised
the connection about iraq and 9/11. this movie wasn t a commentary about the war or about the politics of the war. it was a character stud whey this guy went through. a good movie. and you don t have to like him and the comments calling iraqis savages. he was calling the people he was shooting savages. the people he thought had ieds, thought would kill his buddies savages. some people have seized on that term he thought all iraqis or everyone in the middle east is a savage. that s in the just what he said. he was talking about the people fighting in theater calling them savages. when we come back eamon is going to kick around santa claus. you know, i understand like i know. no listen. first of all, like you, i don t you can hate santa claus if you want to. i think this is a fascinating conversation. i do, too. he s trying to cheapen it. reading between the lines, it s what happened when young men are sent to war and are sent to kill and to fight the enemy, and how do you not develop hatreds and confusion about
people? i mean how can you completely label somebody when they re put in a position like that? and i think it takes a look at just how devastating that all can be on the brain. yep. so i think everybody s point is valid here and that s why the movie s good. i think so too. it sparked a national discussion into that. it certainly is yeah. very good. the thing is it actually this movie has done well and we ve said it before, has done so well, because you finally have a character study of a guy who went off to war who doesn t get painted as a beast or as some dark savage himself, and and hollywood has real trouble making those type of movies. hmm. now they ve made one now where they re not ashamed to show there were a lot of great men and women in iraq and afghanistan, that were brave that were proud, that sacrificed themselves noemt for theirt only for their buddies but for the iraqi
people. and men who go and come back completely changed. exactly. on the phone talking to with his wife. in the middle of a battle. that, to me was the most powerful scene of the movie. bringing those two words together. quickly, a lot of people think this was a rah-rah war film. critics have their points. i went to a screening at fort drum over in new york here and there was no screaming and cheering when he was killing people. it was interesting to watch. active duty and vets sitting in a room watching this movie. they didn t stand up and say, yeah, you shot that guy in the head from 2,100 yards away. they were watching it as a reflection what they d been through and when they saw him at home and he s struggling so hard with his family to reingrate with society, there were moved. people crying, not cheering in that studio. and here to co-host our 8:30 half hour. molly sims. a mod the. model.
going to teach me how to be a supermodel. it s not working for me. i ll ask about that. and the change coming for the next president of the united states. first a check on the forecast with bill. tracking two new storms. one bringing freezing rain to much of ohio now. very slick conditions from the cleveland area to columbusish and that s trying to slide over to pittsburgh and erie. hopefully more snow there. freezing rain in ohio. the worst weather in the kurcht. this storm is going to re-energize stell later tonight making its way through the northeast and unfortunately the areas that were just hit by that big storm in new hampshire and also maine have a chance of another 6 to 12 inches from this storm. not as much as boston maybe 3 to 6 inches. kbloeing conditions. 40 mile-per-hour gusts on the heels of that 70 mile-per-hour blizzard. as far as the long range goes big questions about the next storm. low confidence forecast does go out to sea on one of our computer models the euro model, sunday to monday.
if you re in the d.c. area up to philadelphia, keep an eye on the forecast. you have a chance of getting snow for that monday morning commute. talking about the big blizzard. amazing photos coming out from the coast s areas. nantucket obviously encased in ice. the waves were so huge and the spray just freezing on anything it touched, nantucket still recovering right through the weekend, and how about this image. from massachusetts, the huge wave at high tide about the swallow that little home and an unbelievable historic blizzard of 2015. it. you re watching morning joe. we leave you with a shot of washington, d.c. don t give up on the snow yet. i think you have a chance monday morning. we ll be right back. before earning enough cash back from bank of america to help pay for her kids ice time. before earning 1% cash back everywhere, every time.
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i think that dan and ellis are trying to sabotage me. i don t know. i just noticed. why do they hate you so much? take a shot in the control rom. what s going on there. thanks guys. oh colleen. thank god she s there. the morning paper, wall street journal, cuban president raul castro says the u.s. has to return to the naval bashan at guantanamo bay before ties between cuba and the u.s. can be normalized. castro maze remarks during a summit in costa rica adding the land is illegally occupied. so far u.s. officials have not responded. the military base at guantanamo bay was established after it leased to the u.s. as part of a
treaty in decided to open up and now they re making demands. also asked, true story, full reberations for the embargo. pay us back. you know it is so good our negotiations with cuba are on. these things always work out very well for us. on to the next story now. panama xacanal, so awesome. noriega acted so well after we gave him the panama canal. just reach out the hand and they ll reach back. and new census data shows a staggers one in five or 16 million american children currently rely on food stamps. that number is up from the beginning of the recession in 2007 when about 9 million children were on snap as it s called now. last year a bill cut funding for an assistant program over $8.5 billion eliminating benefits for 850,000 people. let s go to the guardian. recovered flight data recorders show that the copilot was in control of air asia flight when
it crashed in december. indonesia s national transportation safety committee says the french first officer was flying the plane when it plunged into the java sea. the plane vanished in radar screens approximately 40 minutes into the flight. transportation officials say the aircraft was in good condition and all crew members were properly certified. the st. louis sorry. just so many so many plane crashes in asia. flight that area too. yeah. in that area. i guess this morning, early this morning, they finally finally officially declared that the malaysian flight was lost. it will be about 12 more months of coverage by certain networks but, yeah. i mean look at those two flights, air asia. it s not a safe place to fly right now. the black boxes on this one, at least hopefully figure out what happened. a fighting and shoving match broke out at st. louis city hall during a meeting to discuss
policing following the shooting death of michael brown. the city is considering a bill creating an oversite of the police department. the meeting, first on that matter. nearly an hour proceedings went fine but the scene eventually evolve into chaos when police officers began speaking in opposition of the bill. when a police union leader called for order, the pushing and shoving began. the police association believes the bill is unfair towards officers, while many citizens say the department needs a new form of accountability. right. so everything was going well until the police actually got their say? yeah. and the police get their say and then suddenly a riot breaks out inside the courthouse? i guess cops are supposed to just sit back and do absolutely nothing? and just just just take it. it s unbelievable. it is unbelievable the national narrative over the past six months has been disgraceful towards cops. i don t disagree. it s been an unfair conversation. a lot of good points to be made.
a lot of very real feelings out there, but, my god. look at what they have to do for a living and let s try and understand where they re coming from and meet in the middle. usa today. mcdonald s named a new ceo. steve eechlterbrook as sales continue to drop. the decision comes after months of sharp drops in sales and mounting criticism over worker compensation. 36,000 locations in over 100 countries. it s a tough business. very. and the ceo who s leaving, i think has done a pretty remarkable job in converting the mcdonald that we grew up with in 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s to a new thing. my kids still, they they go to mcdonald s for coffee. and i ask why? it s cheeaper and the best coffee. the fact people are saying that about mcdonald s. also salads. they go there for salads too.
there has been a remarkable transformation over the past decade. major korngss making fast food. look at what pepsi s dealing with, mcdonald s, other fast food agencies have to make the transition from all of these other addictive substances that make people want to buy their food in a way that nobody knew was, you know, necessarily impacting society as badly as it was. now they re trying to make a transition to help. that s hard. a lot doing a really good job. pepsi s one of them. pepsi s doing great. three years profits flat. changed what it looks like. coca-cola. it s a tough marketplace tmplts is. huffington post the next president of the united states will take off in a brand new air force one. thanks god. all right. pentagon announced a contract for two new planes going to chicago based boeing. the current fleet went into service in 1990 replaced by goeg s new generation 737 jet i.
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look! it s bud pip i m so glad you made it home bought i just sold you on this website i built with godaddy. ship him out! terrible. that s just terrible. joining us now television personality and actress beth stern, and we re going to talk to her about the kitten bowl in just a moment but we re talking about the super bowl and a lot of different levels. therapy the ads. you didn t like that last one. the first one, the budweiser ad using an old schtick they ve been going with the lost puppy but they re going to have one this time around joe, on domestic violence and it is dead serious. i think it s actually a brilliant move chilling. it is based on the actual text of a real call to 911. take a look. 911, operator 911. where s the emergency? 127 grenier. what s going on there? i d like to order a pizza for delivery. ma am, you ve reached eded 911. this is an emergency line.
large mushroom and pepperoni. this is 911. do you know hog itw long it will be? do you have an emergency or not? and you re unable to talk because right, right. is there someone in the room with you? just say yes or no. yes. okay. it looks like i have an officer about a mile from your location. any weapons in your house? no. can you stay on the phone with me. no. see you soon. thank you. we both have chills. mika, that is a chilling ad. we ve shown it a couple times this morning and the response is overwhelming. do you think the nfl is really waking up to the problem they had earlier this year and how important is this? absolutely. this is the result of them getting a team in place, a team that involves women and really looking at this as the number one issue that they need to solve so they can move on and practice the game of football.
and this ad is chilling. i think the fact that they re putting it in the middle of the super bowl and, you know moving open the ad space, but also probably having a real kind of cut in the mood of the whole event. to really take a moment and look at a serious issue that they ve had to confront. i think it s brilliant. i think it s brave. i m glad they re doing it. we re going. yeah? you know the thing is everybody tunes in for the super bowl and the game and all of these great ads. this is a great message for absolutely everybody. i will tell you, though the second most important thing is the kitten bowl. yes it is! i. wait for the kitten bowl every year i think i know why, and there are kittens we ll gore to talk about on a number of levels with beth. the other big game this sunday. yes. and you okay first of all i can t wait to talk to you about all the work you do with saving animals. first explain to me what the kitten bowl is and why there are not kittens here now? this studio would not allow
kittens, so that s why i do in the have kittens with me. what? but the kitten bowl is on the hallmark channel, our second kitten bowl such a huge ratings hit last year. 92 kittens on the field playing, frolicking. look at this. so cute. i want one. yeah. starts at noon on hallmark channel and run all day. when all the guys are sitting there drinking beer, watching the football game i say the girls and the kids go in the other room. watch some cuteness. i karnt youguarantee you, guys tuning in too. my husband being one of them. oh, yeah. i don t think he s looking at the kittens, though. i think he s looking at you. i am hosting it and so many animal-loving celebrities that really came together and we re making it bigger and better than last year. talking about loving animals. you put your money where your mouth is and you ve been raising money. you have connections with north shore where i got cajun, by the
way, when he was rescued from hurricane katrina and he is still our doug today. beloved and you saw emma our cat who we found in a field in pennsylvania. we re big into rescues in our family. you are, too. north shore north america is the largest no-kill rescue organization. over 20,000 adoptions a year. that s crazy numbers. we have our headquarters in port washington. i m in the process of expanding it 15,000 square feet. i m making a cage-free feline habitat. their home away from home. it s going to free up the existing shelter as it is now from where puppy mill and adult dog rescues. i volunteer for north shore animal league. my husband and i are foster. we foster kittens and cats. i think we re close to 100 cats and kittens. is he sweet with them? my partner in everything i to do with rescue. right there with me. he doesn t clean at many litter boxes as i do but he helps me socialize them feeds them. howard feeds them? yes. we have six resident cats.
one is blind. does he clean up? oh yes, he does. he cleans poopy bums on the kittens. he s right there with me. you re kidding? you have a whole room full of little kitties ready to go right now? right now we have five kittens. so it s my daughter s birthday tomorrow. i m trying to convince everybody in my family to allow this. because we already could howard dliv tereliver it to my daughter. he doesn t deliver. that s my job. we could make that happen. a little kitten for hur birthday? wait wait. i could have howard name the kitten. can howard name it? howard will name the kitten. mika, two things. one, you do not want howard to deliver this to your daughter you sure as hell don t want him naming the cat. seriously? oh, no. i do. we have really cute names going on at home. like what? he named one poundcake. hazel, rose leopold. we ve had tarzan. superman. any dirty names?
any howard stern-type names? no. howard at home is not dirty. that is awful. you deliver it. we re getting a kitten. happy birthday amelia. amelia. i m going to name a kint amelia. the most beautiful name. meanwhile, there are so many cats kittens puppies and docks at your local shelters. a perfect time of year to adapt and so many are just e. so i have cajun and emma and we re going to add whatever howard names do you want a boy or girl? what do i want? what s there s emma. she s a girl. a female. a very bad cat. and very selfish. you think ye be okay with another one? i think if we get a really young one. what do you think? i think if i give you one that s really chill and ready for a companion. let s do this. i love it. it s a deal. if i could reach you ah! i love you. easiest adoption ever. hosted by beth stern. we ll put it on the air. it s going to become our mascot here on morning joe. so, howard please give it a name that is not filthy.
i think can you do it. poundcake s good. okay. poundcake. exactly. all right. so it s super bowl sunday add 12:00 p.m. eastern on the hallmark channel. i m watching. beth stern, so nice to meet you. thank you for everything you do. up next molly sims is here with her book. here to teach us all on how to be a supermodel every day? is that possible? i m not sure. with her, it is. with her it is. we ll be right back. you just got a big bump in miles. so this is a great opportunity for an upgrade. sound good? great. because you re not you you re a whole airline. and it s not a ticket you re upgrading it s your entire operations, from domestic to international. which means you need help from a whole team of advisors. from workforce strategies to tech solutions
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insurmountable. what newspapers do you read? yeah. yeah. blamed me for that one. should you have prepped her on something like that? probably. yeah. so you would have said now they may ask you what newspapers you read. so have two or three in mind. what you would have done? i should have yeah. welcome back to morning joe. i m over here. am i over xwleer model and actress molly sims is with me. i still can t believe, eight months pregnant, out with a new book everyday supermodel. molly, in this book okay everyday supermodel, i m going read this and realize i m not a supermodel and never will be one and looking at pictures. yeah i don t look like that. doing these exercises, but then started reading, and you actually it s very raw. very raw. very real. i m not out to turn anybody into a supermodel. out to actually debunk. debunk it and say you have to be the best you can be and we wake
up every morning especially in the new year being like how can i be better? and i wasn t born like this. i m not resilient with a little booty of a size 0, but i made it, and i did it and here s how i did it and here s how i change might look my weight and changed not everything about me but i went for something, and i ve gotten it. it was a lot of work. it s a lot of work. and took a lot out of along the way. i lived in europe six years. told i was too fat. my carve was too big. arms too big. i was too muscular. if you think that makes you feel good about yourself it doesn t. what are you left with on the inside? i have to tell you i wroet a book called obsess talk about the tv industry and the pressure i felt. i talk about that in the book. do not say you re on a diet ever. i do not own a scale. oh. do not. i became obsessive about it as a model. that s right. i did step on one two years ago when i had given birth and i
gained almost 80 pounds because i ended up having a thyroid problem that became very undiagnosed until after i had him, but i always say to women do not step on a scale. use your jeans. get a favorite pair of skinny jeans. feel good. you felt ugly as a child? nots that i felt ugly. i ve been my height . cute. you re adorable. there i am right there, but, you know, i wanted to do something that i didn t think i could do. i was in public school. i had acne. i was about 20 to 15 pounds over my resting weight and someone was like you re tall. should hob a model. you re pretty. wait a second. what? and i worked and i worked and i made it happen. that s why the last i can t say it on-air but the last chapter is i made that happen and we ended up writing it, because you know think was 20 years ago i wrote a postcard to my mom and dad. i think i can do this. i wasn t the prettiest or
smartest but i had that i m a real girl s girl. a real woman. i love sharing information, like i was just like i know what your dress is. i just asked you, what s your dress, dvs. like i love sharing that information, and my girl friends of my best friends and we give each other back how the whole book started. i like that i made that [ muted ] happen. dumped and depressed to married and pregnant. even in my personal life. finally made it professionally and i m like i am in such a co-dependent dysfunctional relationship, and then i got back into the dating field which is so hard in your mid-30s. now with the whole texting and everything, but i got dumped and then dumped again, and then i met my true love. i didn t think i did that thing, i was like supermodel ah god. i really like you. and i m really liking your story. thank you. and i think that you know if there were more people like you who just said it. i just want to be honest. i don t trouble around with hair
and makeup i did do my own makeup and hair. i want to show women. what about your weight and, like, your age? do you share? everything. everything. i say i do both. i don t do botox now. clearly, i m almost 8 1/2 months pregnant. i won t sit here and tell you i do m&ms, eat all day. i m actually like this. i m not. there s nothing natural about t. it s a job. it s a job. like the cindy crawford quote. you work for yourself. i work for myself every day. so do you. you look great. you take care of yourself. i do the same work you do. it is work. the book is the everything day supermodel molly sims. thank you so much. up next find out what we all learned today. thank you.
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all right. welcome back kids. time to talk about what we learned today. mika, we learned so much. that molly s friend has a crush on joe. yes, she did. you do. out there. you just called her out! i know. i had to. no. i just did. actually it was mika. she wasn t doing that to her friend but i had no problem. what did you learn today, molly? i learned that i freakin loved you before but now i freakin love you now. are you coming back? of course. i loved you a lot. i love this area. that s all yours. all yours.
i m outta here. it s all safe. sage for you, emma and everybody else. you re pretty good too. that does it for us. if it s way to early what time is it joe? time for morning joe, but stick around. the rundown is straight ahead. bye emma. oh, i m going to put my arm around him. oh, look at that. i m meteorologist bill karins and here we go again. another snowstorm, but this time this is a northern new england and especially a maine special. this storm develops late into the gulf of maine. looks like light snow tonight into tomorrow in boston but really going to be up in maine we ll get named going into friday and saturday. today the light snow is moving
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log on to our #keeptalking. thank you for joining us. we ll see you tomorrow, on wednesday. fox & friends starts right now. bye. good morning. it is tuesday, september 30. i m elisabeth hasselbeck. we begin with a fox news alert. this realtor vanished while showing a home. overnight. her body just discovered in a shallow grave. this morning police have this man behind bars. we are live with the developing details straight ahead. forget about listening to intel. here s the real reason the white house underestimated isis. predicting the will of foreign security forces to fight for their country is difficult. and this as a new report reveals that the president only read about half of his daily intel briefings. and that s not good. he was just arrested on
terror charges but this imam sure doesn t sound sorry. if terrorism is seeng up for islam and saying people have a right to defend themselves, obviously we re happy to be labeled. that is not all he had to say and we taped the rest of it. you re not going to believe it shall although believe it, although you should. mornings, by the way, are better with friends. hi everybody. welcome to the final show of september for 2014. you are right about that. thank you for being with us this morning. how s it going, elisabeth? we have a lot of breaking news today. a huge roster of guests as well. we have breaking news out of arkansas to bring you. police confirming they have just found the body of that missing real estate agent we ve been telling you about, beverly carter. heather childers is here with developing detail. good morning, heather. good morning. this is a sad conclusion to
this story at this point. this is happening just hours before the man suspected of murdering her makes his first court appearance. 33-year-old aaron lewis behind bars thanks to this 911 call. we re looking for a guy that was involved in a realtor being kidnapped. and this guy looks like, and he is nervous and out here at a bus stop. that is when hugh wis realized when lewis realized he had been recognized and he took off but witnesses would not let him get away. the guy ran off and we took off after him. my buddy followed him one way and i went the other way to make sure he couldn t double back and the realtors that work in that shopping center were running behind us and running with him and we got him cornered in the office building. yes, they did. and investigators grilled lewis for more than 12 hours. we are told he admitted to
kidnapping carter but did not reveal her whereabouts at that time. he is no stranger to the law. he has been arrested multiple times in arkansas, missouri and utah. most recently lewis was serving a six-year prison sentence for a robbery he committed back in 2010, but he was released on parole last august for good behavior. yesterday beverly carter s son joined us with his emotional message. you re my rock. you re my very first friend, and i love you so, so, so much. and i need you. our family needs you. and i want you to be strong. we ll find you. police say that they found beverly s body in a shallow grave behind a concrete mixing business. of the home that she was showing near little rock. and our prayers definitely go to that family today and we ll continue to follow
that story. back to you. heather childers, live with the latest. thank you. we did speak with her son yesterday and you could feel the hope he had and fear in his heart. and our prayers go out to their family today. it is devastating to hear that revealed. a heartbreaking ending to that story. four minutes after the top of the hour. heather nauert is back with us today with headlines. good morning to you. i ve got news starting out overseas this morning. it is a fox news alert. overnight a 23-year-old man in australia charged with funding terrorism. australian authorities say the melbourne suspect gave $12,000 to a u.s. citizen who is fighting alongside isis and also provided money to the al qaeda linked group al-nusra. this arrest coming a week after melbourne police fatally shot a terror suspect. police say those two incidents are not connected. a shocking new report about this month s major white house security breach. we now know that the armed white house intruder made
it a lot farther into the presidential mansion than the secret service originally admitted. omar gonzalez got into the white house. he overpowered a female secret service officer and ran through the east room to the direction of the green room where he was finally tackled by a counterassault agent. this sets the stage for what is going to be a heated congressional hearing today. the secret service director will face lawmakers a few hours from now. could police searching for hannah graham be dealing with a serial killer? there are new details that link the suspect jesse matthew to the 2009 disappearance and death of a second young woman, and there could be more. forensic evidence shows matthew is possibly linked to the disappearance and death of a 20-year-old virginia tech student, morgan harrington. matthew was arrested last week in connection with the disappearance of 18-year-old hannah graham, a student at the university of virginia. the parents of morgan harrington holding on to
the hop that hannah will be found. we know where morgan is. hannah graham is still missing, and her family needs to know where she is. we need to bring hannah home. if the forensic evidence holds up there is likely a third victim linked to the suspect. matthew is due in court thursday this week. for the first time nascar driver tony stewart speaking openly about the accident that killed a fellow racer. his comments coming days after we learned he won t face charges for that incident. stewart admits he didn t get out of bed for days out of that crash and doesn t know when he will return to racing. he also says he s available to the ward family. i want to be available to them if they want to talk about it. at this point i don t need i don t need to talk to them for closure. i know what happened. and i know it was an accident. recent toxicology reports said ward had enough marijuana in his
system at the time of the crash to impair his judgment. those are your headlines on a busy news day. glad you re back. many people are fixated on the interview where the president of the united states talked about isis and said james clapper, the head of the intelligence service that oversees the c.i.a. and f.b.i. said isis caught us by surprise. upon further review, if you look at the facts, look at the testimony they did not catch anybody by surprise if you were paying attention. and there s more and more clues to the fact that by saying that and throwing the intel community under the bus so to speak, he has really ticked him off. they are so angry. they say we ve been providing the president with information since before he was reelected. what s curious is in the interview the president initially said they missed it. but as it turns out, he missed it because now there is a story out this morning from the government
accountability institute that says that the president of the united states only attended 42% of his daily intel briefings. only 42%. less than half. that is about the same as his first term, which curious is the former president, george w. bush, rarely missed his. maybe he missed isis because he missed the briefings. there was a decrease in attendance in a second term. 42.4% in the first term. 41.3% in the second. if you think about that, if you re almost 60% of the time opting out of sitting down face-to-face with the best of the best of intelligence while we have the worst of the worst happening in the world, is that good enough for america? is that good enough for the globe that your national security interests are in the low 40 s? six out of ten times you say i don t need to be there. one they think he does say is i prefer to get on
my ipad and read it on my own but very rarely gave follow-up questions to the intelligence briefers. not only were they not there to fire back questions to him president bush had the reputation if you were not ready to present the d.n.i., the they the assessment, don t go in there because he would be pummeling you. you know why this president wants it in writing? there is a reason. he wants it in writing so nobody will be able to testify i personally warned the president about a threat. they don t want that with this administration. there is that suspicion. absolutely. in the meantime colonel allen west had the observation that any time the president is taking credit for something, he says i or me but when something bad is happening they use they. ed henry and josh earnest were talking about they in this exchange. why did he use the word they ? they underestimated. why didn t he say we? isn t jim clapper part of the president s team? of course he is.
everybody in the u.s. government was surprised at that. nobody failed? nobody is going to be held accountable? predicting the will of the foreign security forces to fight for their country is difficult. yeah, but our intel people were doing it accurately before the reelection back in 2012. so it wasn t difficult. all they had to do was listen. all the president had to do was isis controlling 35,000 square miles of land here. they re a mile from baghdad right now. you think about it and you re wondering wait a second, is this so we continue singing ding-dong the witch is dead? we have nothing to do, we re victorious. brit hume says these are inexcusable excuses. let s assume there was a failure and all the intens agencies intelligence agencies failed to warn the president about isis. in february of this year isis captured ramadi and
fallujah, two big cities in iraq formerly the focus of activities in the past. you d think it might have dawned on somebody in the white house, especially the president, that gee, this little terrorist group is turning out to be much more of an army we ve seen before doing things that usually only armies can do, that is capturing and occupying territory. maybe we ought to yourry about this. we ought to worry about this. lieutenant colonel michael flynn testified that this group is spreading from syria into iraq and demonstrated recently by taking ramadi and fallujah and the wall street adjourn had a lead editorial on it on january 6 saying there s flags flying in ramadi and fallujah. a key person from the state department said we ve seen upwards of 40 suicide bombers per month. this is an actual permissive operating
environment due to inherent weakness of iraqi security forces. that was november of last year. sean hannity had a guest on last night, a muslim cleric who was recently jailed. at one point sean asked him would you like to join isis? he said, well, they ve revoked my passport. i can t go. but nonetheless, mr. choudry did say terrorists don t hide. they re out in the open because they are proud to be terrorists. you heard your cronies to be proud to be called terrorists, and you sneered on a trip abroad funded by benefits when you took a recent trip. you know, sean, if terrorism is standing up for islam and saying people have a right to defend themselves, then obviously we re quite happy to be labeled. there s nothing called suicide in islam. there is something called using your body sometimes in the battle field against your enemy. he also said the media coverage on isis has been
biased. right. absolutely. he s a brilliant word smith. straight ahead? we know the man who busted into the white house with a knife, that he made it much farther inside than what we were first told. what is going on here? two former secret service agents are going to explain next. news the first pictures inside george clooney s wedding. we got a picture of the dress. stick around. [ engine turns over, bell dings ]
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it s going to be big. in a few hours the head of the secret service will testify at a congressional hearing over a massive security failure at the white house. shocking new information reveals a fence jumper made it much farther inside the white house than earlier suspected and reported than the secret service even let on. they did not tell the truth. but are they to blame or are their agents hands tied by too much red tape? first to you, dan. are you surprised? this guy got across the lawn with a knife, through the front door, overpowered an agent and got up the stairs. i am surprised, brian. surprised and not
surprised. i m not sure how to parse my answer here. but the security plan for fence jumpers has worked flawlessly for decades. we ve never had an issue before. we ve had hundreds of jumpers before. i ve been at the white house when someone jumps the fence and it s been so routine to take them down that it doesn t elicit much of a response other than taking them down. but i m not surprised because it was only a matter of time given the jurisdictional mess in front of the white house and constant pressure on the secret service to maintain optics. it was only a matter of time before someone dd that, sadly, and made it to the front door. he got through the front door and then up the stairs. having said that, are you stunned? are you shocked? i think stunned is a reasonable descriptive word. i would say to you that i m not at this point sitting here, i m not prepared to confirm the extent to which he made entrance into the white house.
i think that will be surely that will be covered by the director in her testimony today, and the details of what he did and didn t do will clearly be included in the report that s going to be forthcoming. you think the bigger problem is, dan, that these guys are, and these women are overworked and they re part of the department homeland security so they re smothered in bureaucracy? you know, brian, we were in the treasury department; they were a pretty big fish in a small pond. it allowed them to do their job largely without a lot of hindrance or just dealing with the bureaucracy with the white house staff. now you re dealing with an entirely new bureaucracy in the d.h.s. which constantly has this pressure, we can t make you guys feel special in the secret service because we ve got to pat this agency on the back as well. we could go on and on about overly bureaucratic government but it has very real consequences as we re
seeing. i m not apologizing. this was a security failure. john, your thoughts? there s 22 agencies in d.h.s., so with that comes bureaucracy. i would agree with dan in terms of smaller is better in this circumstance and the ability for the secret service to operate unencumbered is critical to maintaining the mission. they re going to have a hard time today and they deserve to have a hard time. that was terrible and they didn t tell the truth about it. dan and john, thanks so much. coming up straight ahead, wal-mart blaming tracy morgan for the left him hospitalized and killed his friend. you ll hear it. it is one of the most deadliest cancers killing men in america but dr. samadi says it is up to women to get rid of prostate cancer. he s here.
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all right. some show biz news. wal-mart is blaming performer tracy morgan for his own injuries suffered in that deadly crash in june. wal-mart coming out swinging in a lawsuit saying tracy morgan was injured because he wasn t wearing a seat belt. morgan s lawsuit alleges wal-mart was negligent because it allowed its truck driver on the road after being awake for allegedly 24 hours. people magazine with the first official image of the
ceremony. that is mrs. george clooney looking stunning in her oscar de la renza gown. family and friends celebrated the nuptial in venice. one in six men in the united states are affected by prostate cancer and 30,000 men will die from it this year alone. but according to dr. david samadi, women may be our best chance of knocking out the disease once and for all. he s going to explain all that for us this morning. good to see you, doctor. thanks for being here. as september ends and october picks up, women start taking their health pretty seriously when it comes to breast cancer health. you re saying grab the guy you love by the hand and help him get healthy. the timing is peskt. we perfect. september was all men s health and now women s health in october. we started the samadi
challenge. women go for ma am graps, go mammograms, go for pap spears. now they have one more thing to check out. the p.s.a. we re going to change this forever. i think it s because of women that we go see our doctors. this challenge involves, for example, someone like you, and we re launch it go from right here. it s called samadi challenge. it s women for prostate health. why prostate health and not just prostate cancer? because if the man is getting up in the middle of the night, it is going to interfere with her life. if the libido is down it will affect her. 30,000 men this year will die. that is affecting every woman that cares about that man. if found early enough, correct me if i m wrong, is prostate cancer 100% curable or theeft at least preventible to the point they won t die from
it? the idea is called list. we want you to learn about the risk. they need to improve the quality of life. screening is extremely important which is a huge part of this. the treatment, we have all the treatments whether it is robotics and other things, which is what i do, it is all out this. i hope you join samadi challenge. start this campaign together from right here on fox news and get all your friends on board. i m going to take the samadi challenge and accept it. why are you asking women to jump in for prostate health? i think they are big advocates, very much detail oriented. they go for all their screenings. when they came up with the idea of no mammogram, everyone fought for it. we think different as men. i think if it wasn t because of my wife and family member, i don t think we would go see doctors so i m glad you re on board. i m on board. think about the guys you love and take the challenge with me. does this look like a passenger to you? one driver a little fuzzy
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your shot of the morning. watch this. a middle school football team pulling off a trick play. look at him. sprints for a touchdown while the other team is trying to figure out what happened. it happened in jefferson city, missouri.
the coach said he modeled it after a scene from the film the little giant. look at that. upon further review! great job executing that play. can you imagine that huddle. kids, i got this great play. let s see. was it from the bad news bears ? no, little giant. you re back. great to see you guys this morning. i ve got a story every parent needs to listen to. today there are growing fears about that fast-moving virus that is hospitalizing children in 46 states now. colorado health officials just confirming ten young victims suffering from that respiratory illness have suffered symptoms of paralysis. they are very nervous about it. the children range in age
from 1 to 18. the c.d.c. is investigating to see if that new complication is linked to the virus outbreak. more trouble for the i.r.s. a report shows they botched the collection of taxes. in 2012 the i.r.s. declared $6.7 billion in unpaid taxes and closed the cases when they couldn t find the taxpayer. but in nearly half those cases the i.r.s. workers never tried to track down the person or the money. i.r.s. officials say they re creating a checklist of steps for workers to use in the future. remember the lady who was heaping praise on the obama phone program in the 2012 election? he gave us a phone. you sign up, your social security, you got low income, disability. it turns out the free cell phone program grew 100-fold in the state of
maryland in three years. as many as 645,000 residents signed up for that program, it doubled the number of those eligible based on income. the f.c.c. instituted reform to try to put a damper on that. washington state patrol pulled over a woman who was speeding in the car pool lane and look at what she found there. once the trooper got closer he noticed this giant teddy bear in the passenger seat. the woman said she didn t have enough room in her van so the bear rode shotgun. she and her bear walked away with an $818 ticket. no seat belt on the bear. it s unbelievable. guys, thank you. 26 minutes before the top of the hour. we ve got an extreme weather condition in colorado. temperatures out in colorado dropping more than 20 degrees in a single day.
it s a nasty storm that pummeled denver with heavy rain, golf ball sized hail and even there s the hail right there. one car dealership says as many as 500 cars on its lot were damaged and hail smashing windows and denting the doors of those vehicles. maria, do you have anything to add to this? hello, everyone. unfortunately this storm system is going to continue on the move and over the next few days we expect to see more severe weather firing up across parts of the plains. let s show you where we re expecting severe weather today. across parts of south dakota and also into northeastern parts of nebraska. that risk is going to continue tomorrow across portions of the plains and also as we head into thursday. and every day we have that potential for damaging winds, some large hail and also tornadoes with this storm system. temperatures ahead of it are very warm, feeling like summer across parts of texas into parts of kansas, the 80 s and 90 s out this.
behind that system a lot of cooler. in missoula only in the 50 s. that storm eventually is going to make its way eastward over the next few days, eventually making it to parts of the east coast by the end of the week. let s head back inside. thanks for the fox cast, maria. 24 minutes before the top of the hour. president obama claiming you re probably better off now that he s been in office. i can put my record against any leader around the world in terms of digging ourselves out of a terrible, almost unprecedented financial crisis. ronald reagan used to ask the question, are you better off than you were four years ago? in this case are you better off than you were in six? the answer is the country is definitely better off than we were when i came into office. do you think you can convince people they re doing fine economically? hopefully they get a
chance to hear the argument. i m presenting the facts. do the numbers match up? here is stuart varney. he s right. we were losing a lot of jobs, we had problems with major banks and car companies. let s look at the facts, balance the spin from the president against reality on the ground. household income, since the moment the president walked into the white house until now, household income is down $1,800. that is median household income. that is middle america, middle-income earners hess money. maybe he wasn t talking about that part. whob what about workers? far more part time jobs. far fewer full-time jobs. maybe he wasn t talking about that. how about general prosperity level of society? look at food stamp ps, please. 21 million people getting
food stamps when he walks into the white house. 46 million now. that is not a picture of prosperity. you ve shown three different metrics and they all look bad. what could he possibly have been talking about? he raised the issue of ronald reagan, just stuck president reagan right into the conversation there. if you go back to ronald reagan, you will see that on occasion, in one month president reagan with his policies very different from president obama s he created 1.1 million new jobs, full-time jobs in one month. that was september of 1983. how? he cut taxes and increased demand in society by giving more money for themselves. the president says, and it is true, we have record revenue. we are productive, we are generating a lot of revenue in this country. do you think that s probably one of the reasons why we have slow yes, indeed, we have record tax revenue. we ve never paid so much to the treasury as we are now. that is slowing down the economy. you ve only got 2% growth. he s saying we re better off. you re just not feeling it.
certainly we are not feeling it. and his standards of what is better off don t mean that to the average middle american. coming up on varney and company, we re going to be seeing you from 11 to 1:00. we re discussing the high school football player who looked like he was handing the ball to the ref and then ran for a touchdown. for two hours? we cover it all. on field and financial facts, stuart varney. thanks. coming up, you thought the home depot security breach was bad, there is another one at the grocery store. a bystander with a gun stopped an accused beheading suspect from killing more people. so is it time to rethink the gun control debate in this country? the judge is walking in unarmed.
welcome back. we have quick consumer headlines for you now. toyota is recalling 690,000 tacoma pickup trucks over fears that they could catch fire. it s a problem with the rear springs. 2005 to 2011 tacoma four by four and prerunner pickups are the ones being recalled. hackers may have stolen personal credit card numbers and other data from thousands of people who shop at supervalue and albertson stores. the hack took place in late august and early september. albertson saying the stolen data could include account numbers, stolen expiration dates and card holder names. it s the quick-thinking act cops are calling heroic. listen to this. can you hear this in the
background? [inaudible] it sounds like he s running around. okay. that s a gunshot. police say those gunshots fired by matthew vaughn stopped the oklahoma beheading suspect alton nolen from hurting even more people. with yet another example of how guns save lives, why does president obama and his administration continue to wage a war on the second amendment? joining us right now is fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano. judge, when we started telling this story about how this guy allegedly beheaded one person and was in the act of beheading the second person, when the president of that company came in and shot him twice, i said that guy s a hero. but i don t see any other stations covering this. put aside the philosophical, the constitutional and the legal arguments about guns, that guy is the president
of the company. he s wearing a uniform he wears part time as a part-time sherrifs officer. as a part-time sherrif s officer he s licensed to carry a gun. in that state it s very easy to carry a gun. oklahoma. he learns what is happening at his place, he goes out. he sees one of his employees attempting to slaughter another of his employees. he shoots the slaughtererer. the practical argument and those of us who argue for the right to keep and bear arms, it has encrusted in public view. more guns equals less crime. why? because the bad guys fear reactive violence from the victim or someone around the victim more than they fear getting caught. they all think they can get away. but if they think the victim or someone around the victim has a gun, that will give them pause or at least stop them in their
tracks as happened here. how many times have we had the conversation on this program where after a horrific shooting regardless of where it was, a movie theater, school, shopping mall, something like that, if somebody had a gun and taken a shot at the shooter that whole thing might have stopped sooner. if the pilots on 9/11 had been allowed to carry guns that awful tragedy might never have happened. the problem is the president of the united states who is doing everything he can administratively as the chief executive officer of the federal government and attempting to now get us to enact a treaty to make it very, very difficult to carry guns. he s told doctors, ask your patients if they have guns. he s told the state, ask people when they get registered for guns what their race is. what business is it of the government what race i am? is that to intimidate people? to intimidate people out of getting guns because the president believes that he and the government can keep
us safer than we can keep ourselves. if barack obama could, he would ban guns in the hands of everybody except the police? he has made that patently clear. his problem is the second amendment. and the supreme court interpretations of it. you go back about a year and a half ago in january of 2013, there were 23 executive actions that s the stuff you ve got to pen and he s got a phone, which he did his best to try to limit the uses of guns. these things i mentioned to you. 23 in one month. yes. the states now have to collect racial information. doctors are supposed to ask if you have a gun in the house. he ordered that. it s not in the law and it s not enacted by congress. it is a decision made by the president of the united states through the powers that he has abused. the take-aways from what happened, that horrific murder down in oklahoma it
the vaughn corporation, perhaps the president of that company stopped other people from being killed because he was armed legally. if more people were legally armed there would be less violence, period, whether it is monsters trying to destroy us or a crock pot in the workplace or a nut a crackpot in the workplace or nut job on the street. if you want a discount, you better bring a gun. the restaurant that wants its customers packing heat. you ve got a feeling nobody is going to try anything there. it s the hit everybody is talking about. did the university of michigan coach make a bad call by leaving his q.b. in the game and should the coach be fired? two nfl stars weigh in next.
. this tough hit you re about to see for the michigan be quarterback leaves him staggering, but the coach left him in the game. now there are calls for the coach to be fired. is it because he s 0-3 or is this just too egreengious for anybody to deal with? best selling author of a new book, first team, tim group, and rashard jennings, thanks for
being here. this story has everyone talking. should this coach be fired? whose responsibility is to keep the blaplayer safe? from a player standpoint, whenever we sustain a type of injury, our first initial adrenalin attitude is i m fine, put me in the game. i think they re calling for his job because he s 0-3 and he has some historic losses. they lost to minnesota which hasn t happened very often in michigan s history. it s really not a coach s job. it s a medical staff s job. a player will always try to get himself back on the field. if the medical staff says he s okay, then the coach has every right to get him back in there. this is an exciting time. we know about the program forto the time kids exercising. but talk about why you re here.
so every knows play 60, exercise 60 minutes a day. great for the body, great for their minds. in my travel since i ve been writing these middle school age books, i ve found educators away t around the country, teachers, parents are trying to get kids to read 20 minutes a day. if they do, they get smarter and more compassionate. so i went to the league and said you re doing this great job to get kids play 60, and let s add to it. take one of my books, we ll get a great player, i didn t know it would be rashard, but we ll go to the school, we ll play for 60, read for 20 and give the kids some books. both of you are so well-known for your skill, but to do this and add to it, have the read 20, that s phenomenal. rashard, why is this a
difference maker? for me, i ve had to overcome a lot of giants in my life to now become a giant. and one of the things growing up, i had a reading comprehension deficit. and so reading was something that was a struggle for me. i had a 0.6 gpa average. i was a little overweight. chubb chubby kid with asthma and glasses. and reading, exercise, that s a part of my brand of who i am. so i want to every tuesday in the community, i always dedicated an hour or two to go be a part of the community and be a motivational speaker about how much reading is important. and you have a rare combination. all-american at number one pick played at atlanta, at the same time you go pack to law school and building an author. tell me about first team. this is targeted towards the kids you re speaking to today in new jersey. yeah, so it s my 14th book for kids.
and it s a story about a kid who is a new kid in town, he s got it tough, he comes from the other side of the tracks. and he s got to persevere. really a story about perseverance and what he has to overcome to get himself on the first team. it s a great football story. page turner. and so when rashard and i are read to go the kiing to the kidg to take these books and go on from there. what a powerful message from someone with the giantse sgiant. it s now on sale. first team. thanks so much. by the way, for the record, you did outdress him. thanks, guys. thanks for having us. coming up, isis caught everyone wouldby surprise. troubling new report straight ahead. and joel osteen is here with a big announcement and answeri d
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good morning. it s september 30. a fox you news alert for you. a missing real estate agent found dead buried alive in a shallow grave. what police though about this man who showed up at the last appointment she ever made. meanwhile the president blames bad intel for the rise of isis and now the correction or clarification the white house backtracks one day after blaming. after blaming for the rise isis. anyway, we ll tell you what it all means coming up. and you need inspiration this morning? pastor joel osteen here to
answer your e-mails. i ve never seen him in a bad mood or not smiling because mornings are better with friends. welcome to the second hour of fox and friends on this tuesday. elizabeth when you enter viewed the son of the real estate agent, everybody was holding out hope. and today our hearts sinking. police confirming that they found the body buried alive. heather has the developing details. our hearts out to that family. police say they found the real to realtor s body in a shallow
grave lend a concrete mixing business where the suspect aaron lewis actually used to work. investigators made the grim discovery after grilling lewis for 12 hours. we re told he admitted to kidnapping beverly carter, but he did not reveal her whereabouts. at 9:00 a.m., the 33-year-old will make his first court appearance. police arrested almost after he was recognized at a shopping center in little rock. guy ran off and we just took off after him. my buddy followed him around one way and i went the other way to make sure he couldn t double back. and the realtors that worked in that shopping center were running behind us and running with us. and we all got him cornered in the office building. yes, they did. yesterday carter s son joined us with this emoitional message. you re my rock. you re my very first friend.
and i love you so, so much. and i need you. our family needs you. and i want you to be strong. we will find you. so hard to watch that knowing that they had that hope yesterday. and then today, this is what happens. certainly not i think what everyone was thinking. a ton of hope i i did feel from his interview yesterday. and it s so sad to hear this. thank you for bringing us those details devastating as they are. and mean time, we have some headlines now. heather has the fox news alert. overnight in australia, a 23-year-old man is charged with funding terrorism. australian authorities say the melbourne suspect gave $12,000 to a u.s. citizen who is fighting alongside isis and also provided funds to the al qaeda linked group al nusra. this is a week after melbourne police fatally shot a terror suspect who stabbed two police
officers. police say that the two incidents are not connected. back here at home, a shocking new report about this month s major white h could police searching for hannah graham be dealing with a serial killer? new details linking jesse the matthew to the disappearance and dw death of a second young woman and there could be more. he could be linked to the death of 20-year-old virginia tech
student morgan harrington. matthew was arrested last week in the disappearance of graham. she s a student at the yf university of virginia. parents of morgan harrington told police that he hopes hannah will be found. we know where morgan is. morgan is in a box over there. hannah graham is still missing and her family needs to know where she is. we need to bring hannah home. if that forensic evidence holds up, there is likely a third victim linked to matthew. he s due in court on thursday. and photographic evidence that george clooney is officially off the market. people magazine with a first look at the italian wedding ceremony. she looks stunning. new york post also showing off the custom made dress. osca oscar dela ren take looking on from the right. and this one saying
internationally acclaimed barrister marys anningcton. there is an estimate the wedding cost $13 million. he s got if.acton. there is an estimate the wedding cost $13 million. he s got if. did they register? because they need so many things. it s just an empty house. do you know, yesterday at this time, we were telling you about how the president of the united states on 60 interes 0 m talked about the fact that isis has gotten so big. in fact reportedly one mile from baghdad. well, the president said our intel community simply underestimated things. he threw them under the bus. as it turns out, maybe he, the president, actually was missing it because according to the government accountability institute, the president only
attended 42% of his daily intel briefings. that s where they tell him where the hot spots are. so if he only shows up 42% of the time, he ll be missing a lot. but he does say he reads and goes through them. how do we know he actually reads them? so is he going through it, others is said he s a lawyer, he prefers it that way. eli lake writes that his sources at the defense department are flabbergasted by the president s shifts of blame. others are speaking out. including people that say just read the testimony from past senate committee meetings. lieu ten michael flynn saying in february iraq seems to be exhibiting large sections of isis through both regioregionst february iraq seems to be
exhibiting large sections of isis through both regions. the writing was on the wall. everybody knew about it and they were telling the president, but he did nothing. ed henry was asking where is the accountability and why so much blaming. why did he use the word they. why didn t he say we? isn t jim clapper part of the president s team? of course he is. the president has confidence in director clapper. so everybody in the u.s. government was surprised at that, nobody failed, nobody will be held accountable? well, predicting the will of security forces to fight for their country is difficult. it s difficult except the intel community said, look, we were giving the president and the white house detailed stuff before the election. remember, before the election, that s when we heard osama bin laden is dead and al qaeda is on the run. well, as we know, that their difference simply wasn t holding up. what is also curious is just the
fact that you ve got people like lieutenant colonel alan west, he s wondering given the tact that there seems to be no accountability, should somebody intel community elsewhere, should somebody s head roll? listen to this. how does lois lerner keep her job? how does nanyone keep their job in the veteran s administration? no one is responsible. we continue to see these failures. these misunderstandings. these missteps. and no one is ever responsible. how does eric holder keep his job after fast and furious? how does anyone keep their job when we abandon four americans to die this benghazi? that s the million dollar question. fox news alert now. a live look here. this is aaron lewis, the map
accused of murdering realtor beverly carter, making his way back to jail. we re told he was just in an investigation building. let s see if we can hear what he s saying. okay. the door just closed. he was talking to the reporter as he was getting into the car. yeah, he is set to be arraigned in just a couple of hours. apparently he was arrested and he was interrogated for i think 12 hours. at that point, he did admit that he kidnapped the real estate a little by the name of beverly carter. however, he did not admit that he murdered her. whatever he did tell the cops, though, they were then able to go and locate her body overnight. he ll make his court appearance 9:00 a.m. eastern.
this is after he s recognized at that shopping center. so there you have aaron lewis, the perp walk. and just to wrap it up, alan west saying if you believe that the national intelligence director again dropped the ball when it comes to isis, why doesn t anyone lose their job. either you re all in it together or it s time to revamp everything. and is 42% attendance rate at the intel meetings good enough for you as you re hearing that the president that those are the ones that he attended. apparently 60% of the time, he opted out of sitting face to face getting information. maybe a little curiosity would have helped. and 60 minutes did two thirds of their program on the president of the united states. their ratings were actually down according to nielsen. 69% from the week before. was it because of football or was it because people didn t want to hear what the president had to say? don t know. but they re usually up
because when the lead-in is football, they usually sky rocket it. in the east anyway, they run late. meanwhile coming up straight ahead, did the man accused of kidnapping uva student hannah graham did this before? police say evidence may show that exactly happened. the country s top forensic pathologist here next. and the government wants to spend more money on food stamps so people eat better. how much will that cost us? we have some numbers as we roll on live from new york city.
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a major break in the disappearance of 18-year-old missing uva student hannah graham. police now saying that they found forensic evidence linking her abduction to the murder of 20-year-old uva student morgan harrington. harrington s death already linked to a 2005 sexual assault on a 26-year-old woman who managed to escape. so could the man suspected in grant s kidnapping be behind a number of other crimes? we ll ask our forensics pathologist just that. when you heard this connection,
where did your mind go? they said forensic evidence. probably dna is important in the three linklinkages. but they may have found when they searched his apartment and his car evidence for other women, a half dozen young women missing in the charlottesville area over the past few years, so they may have found something that connects him to other women also that are still missing. and they re looking for everybody. sure. hannah graham is the fifth to disappear in five years along that route 29 corridor. where do you go next with this? i think that the police are analyzing whether the information they have from the last victim, however there may be other information that they can get that is available that would connect them to other victims, too. and they haven t found where the last victim is.
hopefully she s alive. probably not. are you saying that in terms of finding you re saying other evidence meaning pieces of clothing? jewelry. if this is something he s done a number of times, are you saying he would have many collections from these women? many serial murderers collect trophies. they have clothing or jewelry that they keep. and that they keep in their residences. nobody ever looks for it there unless something like this comes up. in this instance, they have him for a warrant for murder, abduction, kidnapping and sexual assault. we can find convictions when you don t have a body for murder, but very difficult to do a sexual assault conviction without a body. sure. they do have a sketch. tell me what you think about this. a number of people have said
this is pretty close. yeah. they re reasonably close. i think it s reasonably close. but that s a sketch going back to 2005, which is interesting. of course could be. but i m not persuaded by this sketch. so this is not evidence that you say could actually the sketch isn t going to work. do you notice a pattern at all? this location is pretty much all we need in terms of saying too many women in this area have gone missing, not returned home. that s right. and all college student age women. so virginia police have been looking for these women for quite a while. only the past four or five years. so he could be a serial murderer and they have to find more evidence to make that conclusion. your instinct has played such a role in your career. what is it telling you?
he sounds a little like ted bundy. very attractive it, arreticulat person who picks up college women. he went on liberty university. he was a very personable person. well, he certainly has everyone thinking. our hearts are with the families still looking. this isn t over yet. thank you, doctor. well, coming up, are you looking for a it tit i discount? the restaurant that wants hits customers packing heat. plus need inspiration this morning? we have some. pastor joel osteen is walking in live right now answering your e-mails. keep them coming.
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people list. meanwhile, joel osteen is at the helm of america s largest megachurch. its uplifting sermon seen by nearly 10 million viewers each and every week. and now he s launching a new channel on sirius xm and his latest book, you can, you will. he joins us this morning. and of course you brought your smile. great to be with you all. it s great to have you here. congratulations on the radio. thank you. i can t believe it happened. where can we listen? it s on sirius xm channel 128. it s a 24 hour channel. my message is from services and things leake that. you re just a couple other from fox news. i think we re at 114. we asked earlier if anybody watching had a question for you. and it turns out thousands do.
you should use this for your radio show. so any way, here is a question from theresa. she wrote on facebook, how do we know which direction god is sending us? we are going through a rough period and praying for his guidance. sometimes, theresa, it s the difficult, but i think you just have to search your heart and follow the peace on the inside. and you have to pray. justed for op ed fogod open thed close the wrong doors. if you honor god, he will close the wrong doors and give you direction. but sometimes you have to figure out is this my will or god s will. but if you are a pure heart, god will help you. in how do you know which in. how do you know which is the wrong doors to close? i pray god close the doors for me. five year ago, i felt it wasn t the right time and six months ago, it all fell into place. so god, it s your timing. sometimes we try to knock doors
open. i m all for being persistent, but sometimes you have to say this may not be the right thing for this time. isn t moean it s closed forever. and peace is an indicator. and charlie wrote how can i get past the grief of losing my mom. it s difficult. i think you have to take it a day at a time. sometimes you think how can i go on another six months or are another year. but god doesn t ask you to. he says can you go on 24 more hours. so you have to get up and say god, i m asking you for strength today and you just have to remember the good memories. i remember twhwhen i lost high , my dad, i thought the same thing. w45 i thought was the darkest hour when i lost my dad, if launched me into what i m doing now. of course i miss my father, but it laufrnched me into something even better. what about somebody who hasn t experienced grief before?
you re questioning god already, but what you ve never had a relationship and you don t have faith? i think it s hard without faith. that s why i encourage people in those tough times, it s a time to turn to god. you don t have to be a religious type person. a lot of people weren t raised in church like me. but you call out on god. he has a purpose for our life. i don t believe anything we go through is a surprise to him. and it may feel odd, but you have to say god help me. i believe he will give and you peace and strength and help you get through these times. and he gave jeter that hit in yankee stadium. how do you stay so positive? you you know, i don t know. this has been my natural personality. i do believe i live what i teach. and when i ask other people to do, i get up and foond something to be grateful for. i think we can all find something. something that is good. it s how you start the day many times will determine how your day will go. it s easy to think i don t want to go to work, i don t want to
deal with these kids. sounds like elizabeth oig every day. you knew you were coming on fox and friends, is that what made you happy? seeing you guys was it about the radio deal, the book deal? have to get through this. he s eight undeniable qualities, one is serve others. why is that important? because sometimes when you get only focused on yourself, i will you tend to lose your joy. i don t know. just the victory in life. i think we were created to help others, to do something good for somebody else. and when it s always my dreams, my goals, my plans, even my problems, it s self centered. and when you reach out and to something for somebody else, it brings you joy and it s a seed you sow for help in your own time of need. once again on xm, over there later today at what channel? channel 128. you got yourself an hour show, your wife has an hour show and then it s up to everybody
else. congratulations. thank you. you re a joy to be with. you can you will is the name of the book. meanwhile, we have to go to a break. next up on the are nrundown, moment a volcano çerupts, caug on camera. and teachers refusing to work because they say schools are too conservative. what about the kids?
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fox news alert. brand new video in of the man suspected of murdering missing arkansas real estate agent beverly carter spoke out just moments ago as he s being led past cameras with police. you did not? no. who did? i had a co-defendant. i haven t seen her for into dtw. i haven t seen her. i had a co-defendant trevor. what is your relationship to trevor? he got texts back and forth from me and him and they want him why beverly? she was a rich broker. might go to sanything to say family? sorry. what else? sorry. why beverly? because she was just a woman that worked alone, a rich broker. did you kill her?
no. a rich broker. he was able to answer questions like that. set to make his first court appearance in an hour and a half. police found her body in a shallow grave. about 25 miles from the house where she was reportedly showing him near little rock. investigators made the grim discovery after grilling him for over 12 hours. so he implicated himself and now they re maybe just throwing out a name? he apparently did tell police that he was involved in the kidnapping, but didn t say he was involved in the murder. and now we just learned in that sound bite that there was some other guy named trevor with apparently ex-military. i m sure police are looking for him. unless they already have him. quite a story out of arkansas. we ll stay on those details. it is a security shocker here. the intruder who scared the white house fence and spreptsed
into presidential mansion made it much parts inside than we were told initially. let s go live in washington. leland, what is the reaction at the white house this morning? this is a shocking update. good morning. certainly there are a lot of questions folks are asking about exactly what happened. one source told ed henry that this was a catastrophic failure. for more than a week, we have known that when omar gonzalez climbed over the white house fence and dashed across the laup, lauwn he made it to the front door, but turns out he made it well into the white house, through the east room and then into the green room. you see his route there on the map. that puts him at the heart of the executive mansion before another agent was able on tackle him and the source tells ed a member of the secret services uniform division originally misreported these details to town play the failure.
i m not surprised here because it was only a matter of time given the jurisdictional mess in front of the white house and the constant pressure on the secret service to maintain optics, it was only a matter of time before someone did that. in recent weeks, there has been a massive show of force by the secret service around the white house ground. the investigation continues. including a new mini fence. although what that would did to stop an intruder is unclear and a number of fail you are urfail. today secret service head will be testifying on capitol hill. and it will not exactly be a comfortable conversation. lee land, thank you. and we re hearing this, one 18 # 0 rounds of ammunition found in the car.
and plus the story the washington post had a couple days ago about how apparently how one guy on the south lawn pumped seven shots in the white house and nobody knew until the maid found broken glass. number one question asked today, is the first family safe. because that s what they re there for. they thought the shots were a car backfiring. meanwhile, heather has the news. good morning. news coming in from overseas. a group of hikers forced to take cover in a cabin after a japanese volcano erupts without warning. 36 people were killed when mt. ontake kree ruperupted. now some of the ash is as deep as 21 feet. yesterday the search was called off due to high levels of toxic gas. but rescue operations have now resumed. nearly 70% of teachers
shutting down two high schools in colorado by calling in sick, protesting the school board s proposal to promote patriotism. and also and ongoing disagreement over pay. the public is getting angry. i think it s sad that the union bosses are using our kids to be uninformed, basically pawns. protests been going on for about three week. the super iteachers who conditi prove they are sick will be docked pay. bill and hillary have cleared their schedules for bonding time with chelsea and new baby.
remember those days? a special day. read the directions on how to bu put the baby seat in. meanwhile, exsfretreme weat in colorado. temperatures dropping more than 20 degrees this just one day as snow is in the central mountain real regions. and some places reporting hail as large as quarters coming down. maria has the latest. that s right. and the storm also packing a punch in terms of severe weather. we had a tornado reported yesterday across western colorado and also several reports of strong winds and hail. and you now today we have the risk for more of that across south toddakota. nebraska. tomorrow we continue to see the risk for tornadoes for strong winds, for hail. temperatures ahead of the storm system are very warm.
feel like summer across the plains and northeast. it will be cooler today, new york city temperatures returning closer to average into the low 70s. and places like chicago, cleveland and minneapolis will be in the 60s. it won t rain today in new york, is it? we have unsettled weather here in the northeast. all because of that cooldown. good reason not to paint the garage door then. i ll wait. have the butler to it like last year. they took on obamacare and won. president of hobby lobby here for his first tv interview next. (vo) watching. waiting.
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certain contraceptives. hobby lobby s president steve green join us there oklahoma city. good morning. good morning. thanks for having me. i know this is the first time you ve talked nationally since the decision. at the time, before the decision came out, did you ever think, you know, maybe we shouldn t do this, it s costing us a lot of money, the family s getting dragged through the press, it s just not worth? no, not really. i think when our family met, we knew that to provide the mandated contraceptions that would take life was something that violated our conscio skepgd we felt leak we didn t have an option. you were paying for 16 of 20 different kinds of birth control, but it was those four that you caused life on he saen
that s where he said we can t pay for that. contraception has never been the problem. 16 of the 20, we have and we did provide. but it s those products that could take life that became a problem for us. and those are the ones that we did that want to freely provide because it violated our con shenks. did it drive you crazy when people said hobby lobby had a war on women? especially when we have such a great appreciation for employee, many of them women, we want to take care of them, provide the best we can, health insurance that we can for them. so there was just a lot of misconception and misconstruing of what our position was. and that was discouraging. but i guess that s what you have to expect. sure. well, now the supreme court has said you don t have to pay for that and you have moved on. and you ve moved on because
coming up, not long, you will be breaking ground officially on the national bible museum. and you ve selected of all locations washington, d.c.. why this washingtin washington? we had looked at three major metra poo poll tapolitan areas. new york city, washington, d.c. and dallas. but we did a survey that showed that the museum would be best intended in washington, d.c.. so we focused our efforts there and it took about 18 months for us to find a location that we acquired. but because of the fact that we saw that d.c. would be where it would be best attended, that s why we focused there. so it s a guy began tick nig dedicated to one book. so how do you make it interesting for all generations because sometimes it s hard to engage the kids?
it is a book that has changed a world. and so when you look at the impact of this book, it s one of those that has an incredible story to be told. and so what we have done is we engaged leading designers, architec architects, technology experts to help us make this a very engaginging new se engaging museum that will help bring the book alive and hope the visitor have a greater appreciation for the book once they have gone through it. so if you re thinking if we build it, they will come. well, our survey indicated that there would be a great interest. there is a great love in our nation for this book. there are people that love it and there are those that hate it. and what we want to is just present the information, let a visitor make their own choice of what they want to do with the information. but this book has had such an impact, we ought to know about it. so we want to let people know about the book that has impacted their life. steve green, thank you very much for joining us from oklahoma city telling us about the national bible museum to
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ths. what do you offer to your customers? we do fitness at an affordable price. it s $19.99 a month. we have group fitness. we re loaded to the gills with equipment. 30 minute class? we have some 30 minute classes. what kind of jobs do you have available? this year along, we ll open up 30 to 40 gyms. plus the exponential factors. and you re opening up here in man manhattan. yes, 1 new york plaza. and then we ll did florida, texas, carolina, just exploding nation wide. i got to tell you, this looks tough. i m a little intimidated. i ll be honest. before i start high workout, i always like to to a littdo a li kick boxing.
nine rounds is the company. and you re expanding across the country. you yourself are quite the light weight fighter. europe, can in a today, world title. i started a fitness program and we have 155 stores in 36 states. what kind of jobs do you have open? we re looking for trainers that are passion that tate abo t fitness. and what do you pay? anywhere it $8 and $15 and managers $30,000 to $50,000 a year and we love that we did. and looking pretty tough. i ll let you get back to the fighting. finally, new york sports club, boston sports club. you re director of group exercise. let s first talk about your about pan expansion. you ve been growing. 40 years we ve been this business. so it s really exciting.
we have 160 clubs in the northeast. major metropolitan areas. new york is our largest market, but we re also in washington sports clubs, boston sports clubs and philadelphia. and we have a group fitness class going behind us. but you re looking for instructors. we ll probably 100 to 200, but also 150 personal trainers, some management and some membership consultants, as well. so if you want to get in shape, you want to make some hone at the same time, look as good as these ladies, it s a big growth industry. back to you in the studio. i m exhausted just watching. it s noisy out there. meanwhile coming up, a full hour coming your way. are we at war with isis or not? state department spokesperson jen psaki joins us live to answer that question and many more.
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live and making our studios smelling very, very nice. she s our friend and as you know, mornings are better with friends. that s right. paula deen is actually in the stud studio. she s coming up. she s back. she s so comfortable here, she was just checking our scripts. are they okay? anybody that can mile and talk at the same time you admire the women. you look great. we re so glad you re here. we have a busy final hour. jen psaki will be talking and right now we re talking to
heather who has the news. i have troubling news to bring you out of the south. it is a fox news alert. moments ago the man accused of murdering missing real estate agent beverly carter revealing his motives during a live television interview after police found the body of carter buried thin a shallow grave. did you kill beverly carter? no. i had a co-defendant. i haven t seen her for two days. now they re showing pictures of this. i had a co-defendant trevor. what else do you want to say to the family? sorry. why beverly? she was a work that worked alone, a rich broker. that happened just a few minutes ago. we ll keep watching that story. another fox news alert, the hunt
is now on for a suspect who hit an off duty newark new jersey police officer. the suspect was attempting to steal a car when the officer opened fire. the suspect then fled striking the trooper s suv. the police have located the an ban doned vehicle but have not found the driver. could police searching for than that gra hannah graham be dealing with a serial killer? new details linking jesse matthew to the disappearance and death of a second young woman and there could be more. information if the forensic evidence holds up, there likely a third victim linked to the suspect. so could the the man be behind a in that of other crimes?
dr. boden said this earlier. he sounds like ted bundy, attractive, articulate person, picks up college women and ted bundy was a murderer down in florida it ffor many years. but he went to liberty university. he was a very personable person. matthew is due in course thursday of this week. and then a bombshell report about this month s major white house security breach. we now know the armed white house intruder made it further than the secret service admitted. he got into the white house, overpowered a secret service officer and ran through the east room. if you follow the red line, he was eventually tackled in the green room where he was tackled by a counterassault agent. that sets the stage for what will be a pretty heated congressional hearing today. secret service director julia
pearson will face lawmakers at 10:00 a.m. this morning. those are your headlines. laura ingram joins us every week. had this guy known where he was running in the white house, he could have run right up the stairs. i used to work in the white house and all i can say is as i recall it, and is this back in the last couple years of the reagan administration, the people at the front door were usually fairly large strong individuals. i mean, a little blurry memory, but the idea that this guy could get in and overpower an agent who i guess was female, and there are a lot of female agents who are really strong and large. but you to get the sense at some point that political correctness could have been a factor here. right? because the new female director who will be questioned today came in after the columbia
prostitute scandal. and she will face tough questions. she was a proud civil servant, but you do get the sense with this administration that all these decisions about who gets what position and where they re stationed, it s plit correoliti correct correctness comes in to the decision making. and this is no place for political correctness. just lock the damn door. i m actually against locking the door. they didn t like the sound. are you half surprised that omar gone sal lzalez go down to mess and have lunch? where else could he have gone? the president takes the dog out for a walk. unbelievable. and surprise seems to be the
word of the day. every is taken by surprise that isis is taking over in the middle east. especially the president. 60 minutes was the place he decided to go and say that. i m going to throw intel right under the bus and say they were underestimating how powerful the situation could be really just tossing blame on them. and then saying wait a minute, now we re all surprised? even isis is surprised at their own success perhaps because the president missed nearly half of his daily intelligence briefings. well, i wonder how many fundraisers he s missed over the past year. i mean, 50%? i bet not. golf games? probably not. i mean, i don t mean to be snarky, but you have to read your briefings. you have to at least give the appearance that you re engaged in understanding the security threat to our country. but as we ve discussed before, i think this president was never all that into foreign policy or
that into military strategy. he was really most motivated by remaking america on the home front. so he s really motivated by stuff like the war on women, contraceptive mandate and remaking the military, did i d y diversity, global warming. he s really into that stuff, but this whole idea of america is facing threats abroad, that is just not really what has ever motivated president obama. and so it doesn t surprise me and i got to tell you, on my radio show yesterday, we went back and got all the clips of obama after bin laden was taken out by s.e.a.l. team 6, he used a lot of is and mys and mes because that was good news about but here, no, they had it wrong. that s a good leader. if we want the president to make sure that he gets 100% of his presidential daily briefings, maybe they should give to him on a golf cart.
or many just jay-z or beyonce, they could be involved. are they on speed dial? they seem to be able to get attention when they want to get attention. maybe we should bring them into the fold. a little disturbing. right now we understand between one and five miles from baghdad is isis today. while in syria, forcing the syrian kurds into turkey. so we have not slowed them down. no. and i think we have to be very clear the threat to the home front, the threat abroad, what is it, what are we going. we can t keep someone out of our white house apparently. we re going to keep someone from crossing our southern border? maybe omar gonzalez thought mi casa, su casa. i m just following the example of the thousands that crosseer it a go. lock that door, do.
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first off, on the attempt on 60 minutes on sunday, the president pushing blame for james clapper for not having the intelligence, but it seems at though there was intelligence out there and even michael flynn saying in february in senate testimony, we believe isil or al qaeda in iraq will look to take territory in iraq and syria to exhibit their strength in 2014. so it was out withere. was just not listened to? first of all, al qaeda and aqis, they changed their name to isil about a year and a half ago, we ve been tracking this group for some people. the president, secretary of state, intelligence community. but there is a difference between that watching a terrorist organization and knowing that the iraqi security forces would lay down their arms, buckle and not fight back. that s an incredibly hard thing to track. and what we ve done over the past eight months is increase our assistance to the iraqi
security forces. would he ha we ve been providing them with hell fire missiles because we ve seen the strength grow. and about the president missing over 50% of the intelligence briefings, why would he choose to do that in a world when it s so full of terrorist activity? i have no validation of those statistics. i ve worked for the president for six years. there are a range of ways that you can get your inintelligence briefings. so you don t believe the statistics are right that say he only was at 41% of the entell against briefings? well, i think the important thing here to note is that there is information the president receives on a daily basis. there is a range of people that made the decision to increase
assistance, that made the decision to do strikes last week. the president has been lead wgt support of the national security team to take on this threat. and what we should be focused on is what we do moving forward. just alarming because about you don t know what you did wrong, how do you move forward effectively. and if the intelligence community was getting it wrong, what has changed. so let s just i think everyone let me make one more point. anyone in the intelligence community will tell you who has worked in the intelligence community, it s nearly impossible to predict that an organization, a like the iraqi security forces, would lay down their arms and not fight back. we knew it was a pbad organization. we didn t know there wasn t going to be a fight back in iraq. that s a good point, but if you were monitoring things after we left, you would see all the sunni leaders had been ousted, and with an embassy that large, maybe we should have been able to pick up what was going on there. but about the iraqis laying down
their arms, ramadi and fallujah fell, mosul, are we beginning to see a trend? it looks like it was all falling apart, but it took until september for us to take action. i would disagree with that. we have been taking action, putting together a strategy over the last eight months. i think our strategy can t be into air strikes and ask questions later. there is a range of steps we ve taken. i ve mentioned the hell fire missiles, be inned isr, so intel against sharing. we needed to have a strategy, know where the targets were, know we had a political backup and government that could implement it moving forward. acnd probably best news ever to get a new iraqi government in there. but al maliki is still involved. so let s keep our fingers crossed that these guys are more inclusive and less shia oriented. now a new group, and that s
khorasan. they seem to be again special focus because you believe they are a direct threat here. can you tell us what types of plot they have already pulled off to date? i can t go into those details for the safety and security honestly of the american people, but i can tell you we ve been tracking the khorasan group for about two years. this is affair affiliate of al qaeda, a group we ve been watching and that s why we took action. one of our premiere al qaeda experts and got the closest to nip to stopping the 9/11 plot said over the weekend that they are core al qaeda. one of people that led them there was one of the few who knew about the 9/11 plot prior to the attack. and he said khorasan is the region where al qaeda lived and they just switched to syria you because there was a gap to be filled. so if core al qaeda still exists, can we no longer say that we decimated core al qaeda? i think what you re referring
to i believe is the president s statements that we had decimated core al qaeda and certainly killed osama bin laden. those are all facts. this is the leadership of core al qaeda that has been our focus and was our focus early on over the past couple of years. but what he said in his speech at west point just a few months ago is that terrorism still remains one of the biggest threats to the american people. and we need to take on these threats where they face us, whether that s in yemen, syria. other places. so certainly groups like the co khorasan group, it s part of the effort under way right now. but you don t believer they re core al qaeda? they re affair affiliate. they re a terrorist organization and that s why we went after them. jen, nice for you to be with us. thanks so much. thank you. you know him best as ac slater there saved by the bell.
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he can proof, george clooney off the market. first images of the the a-list wedding coming out. and new york post getting a look at the bride s oscar de la renta gown. and hello magazine snapping the extremely photogenic newlyweds. mario lopez, how did steve do? i thought the he did a fine job. congratulations. tell us what you know about this wedding. i know what you though because they have been so top secret. we had a correspondent over there.they have been so top sec. we had a correspondent over there. george was in an amazing mood. he gave him some gift and tequila. so it was like mardi gras in italy. and what a photo-op. even though pictures of the actual ceremony, we haven t really seen many of those, but the stuff out in venice on the grand canal, it being looked like a movie. incredibly romantic.
it was quite the scene. wish i could have been there. and las vegas justice of the peace as a backup plan. but this is your fifth book out. actually six to be honest. but it s my first memoir. and i m excited about it. i turned 40. i think 40 is a time in a man s life where he sort of pauses and reflects on how he got there and to help make a plan for the future. and i thought what better way than to write it down. whether this be a book that you ll be excited for your kids to read? they re little now. and i dead indicadicated it and said so you know where your old man came from. i didn t see you when you were really young. describe growing up in chula vista. it s a border town, not
exactly the most upscale neighborhood. but it was home. my parents blue collar folks. my dad for the city, my mom for the phone company. and my mom s hope was to keep my busy and out of trouble. so i was the only karate, dancing, wrestler that you knew. so it worked. you talk about wanting kids to be well rounded. you certainly are. you re very honest. you say just between us, get intimate in term of your life and struggles like in-if i tellity. it says as i learned from many miswh mistakes, not everyone is comfortable with love the one you re with approach about that. i own up to all my mistakes. and everybody makes them, right? and i think the important thing is you learn from them. and i ve learned in life that no one is perfect and you try to to
the best at the moment. and you move on. and so i think the important thing is that i have learned and ha and i think i m a better person for it. and it s amazing in writing this how much you forget over the years of your own life. and it was very therapeutic. and very emotional, too. so i m happy with the way it turned out. and this is for like the people who have watched and supported me throughout the years. because without them, i wouldn t have a career or anything. and that s why i call it just between us. do you think that you would have gotten this far had facebook and twitter and all that other social media stuff existed when you were growing up? because you were doing saved by the bell, and there were some things going on. thank god tmz and facebook and twitter, up none of that wa around. or what would have happened? it just would have been some sort of you would know a lot
more about me. at the end of the and day, i wa a bad kid. i was close with my family and still am. but i was a young guy and i liked to have fun. and when you look at pictures like that thank you. look at that shirt, huh? we loved you then, we love you now. it s brave of you to be so honest and open. no one is perfect. this just good us is a great thing to hand down to your kids. and happy birthday. thank you very much. go out and get the book. it s out today. just between us. meanwhile, coming up, remember this lady. one of the president s biggest fans. he s obama president, you though. the major fraud just got exposed. and moments ago, jen sapsak
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president obama blamed bad intel for the rise of isis or sooim isil as a he calls it and today we know the president missed a lot of his meetings. senator graham joining us here today to react.
so the government accountability institute says the president of the united states only attended 4 42% of his daily intel briefings. so he was saying they missed it, talking about the intel community. maybe he missed it. does he have a television? how could anybody miss this that is paying any attention at all? senator mccain and i said in october of 2013 watch out for isis. they re filling in the vacuum created pie nby not supporting free syrian and i remember. let s have a hearing, call the intel people in and say who is to blame here. did you fail to tell our president about the rise of isis l isis/isil this did you tell him anything about the degrading of the iraqi army? the one thing that ticks me off is the surprise we have about the inability of the iraqi arm to take the fight to isil. if you d followed anything at all after we left no troops
behind, halmaliki gutted the ir army of any leadership. it wasn t a surprise if you re paying any attention what is going on in iraq. jen psaki was just on with us on the president getting his intelligence believinge briefin. there is information the president he receives on a daily basis and a range makes the decision to designate a terrorest organization, that made the decision to thk assistance to the iraqi security forces, that made the decision to do strikes last puig. the president has been leading with the support of his national security team to take on this threat and take on this fight. and anyone in the intelligence community will tell you it s very hard to predict, nearly impossible to predict that a force like the iraqi security forces were going to lay down their arms and not fight back. is it predicting when you ve had information coming at you you from a number of different sources? it was all predictable. thooe ye three years ago, senator mccain
and i said if you don t help the syrian army, you re missing a great opportunity. russia went all in, hezbollah went all into help assad and this vacuum created has been filled by isil and other terrorist organizations. when we left no troops behind in iraq, maliki purged the army of all the people we trained and put his cronies in will. and let me tell you this, mr. president, if you do a deal with iran like you re proposing, it will report in the authorinorth outcome. you need to talk to libya. during the president s re-election campaign, he said, you know, bin laden s gop ane a we killed off al qaeda. none of that was true. bin laden was dead, but al qaeda on the run? not really. and for jen psaki to parse words
about that s affair affiliate, that s core al qaeda. all i can say, mr. president, you will never destroy isil without boots on the ground. you won t get an arab army to go in and defeat isil without substantial american help. and if you want to destroy isil inside of iraq, you better rebuild the iraqi army and get sunnis away from the anbar region and arm the kurds. you re doing up in of this. kurds aren t getting armed yet? no, not in any substantial way. the president says terrorists only understand the language of force. but he s not fluent in that language. all he talks about is what we won t do. you can t destroy isil without an army engaging isil. thank you very much. good to see you. heather, now you have the other
news that you ve been following. good morning. listen up. before you you swipe your credit card, hackers hitting the grocery are stores stealing data from thousands of people who shop at super value and albertsons. this affecting at least a dozen states so far. the hack took place back in august and also earlier this month. and do you remember the lady heaping praise on the obama phone program during the presidential election? obama phone. he s obama president, you know. sign up, you got low income, disability. oh, my. it turns out that that free cell phone program may be working a little too well. it has grown 100 fold over the past three years in the state of maryland alone. 645,000 people signed up, double the number who are supposed to be eligible based on income.
it claims it has programs in place to try to cut down on the fraud. police are on the hunt for this woman, she spends her night with the date and then robs them. the alleged thief seen here with $16,000 worth of loot, including a rolex. she s walking out in men s shoes. police think she just waits for them to fall asleep. one seattle area woman is a little fuzzy on the law there. a washington state patrol pulled over a woman speeding in the car pool lane. look what was in her people e s seat. a big fuzzy bear. she and her bear walked away with an $818 ticket. those are your headlines. i don t think that accounts for the high occupancy vehicle. thank you very much. coming up, he s accused of beheading a co-worker, but the
federal government won t call it failure. peter johnson jr. on that next. plus the queen of cooking pack in action and it s a family affair. paula deen and her son, we ll find out who her favorite is. bay affair. paula deen and her son, we ll find out who her favorite is. she s still the one for you.
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it s a tale of the isis blame game. our head of the intelligenc community jim clapper acknowledged that they underestimated what had been taking place in syria. we know the growth in the
middle east was understatemented, but what about the man right here in the ha heartland? are more terrorists being created here on our soil and if so, why want the white house admit it? two minutes of truth, peter johnson jr.. good morning. it s a convenient cover for the federal government to cover ft. hood and owning la acts of workplace violence. it s hard for them to call terror terrorism. especially if it means admitting that the government fell asleep at the terror switch the last six years. or to confess that on the internet and in the prisons and jails in america, we re losing the information war. in iraq, afghanistan and syria, we may be losing the geographical war, too. hating america is a powerful excuse especially when america doesn t talk back or fight back as much as it should. especially when the president admits surprise at the rise of isis because intelligence officials, well, screwed up. we are reassured radicalized
americans are the lone wolves amongst us, but hard to spot and in the end so few amount to might go until the wolves run in packs on to ours and factories. the attorney general says we shouldn t profile. his mom says the acts were not those of the child she raised. and we are equally disbelieving hated from could come so far and so fast into our homeland. but we should believe what we have seen. and we have a right to anticipate that the leaders must act accordingly. first step to identifying americans who want to terrorize other americans is to admit that they exist. and to refuse to allow phony explanations of their conduct as the mere workplace violence of
disgruntled employees. our government s past failures in eradicating the terrorist threat from inside and outside the borders is the not really the issue. it s time for us to sim ummon o exception exceptional list foc wrong. it s time to proclaim what makes it a great albeit somewhat flawed people. we are a great people because as much as we re optimists, we re also realists. we know workplace violence. on september 11, 2001 here in new york city, those working at the world trade center experienced it in the form of two hijacked jets. 13 years later, it s reality time in america and the stake s couldn t be any higher. american people are waiting for a signal of hope from their government. and elisabeth, it s called the truth.
powerful two minutes. thank you. mornings are sure better with friends. and paula deen and her sons are joining us next. but first, we ll check in with what s coming up at the top of the hour. she s all healthy now. i don t know if i like that. elisabeth, good morning. the intel community firing back. don t blame us for missing isis. former cia director will address it live. and a hearing will happen live today. breaking news on the missing mother and real estate agent found overnight. and does virginia have a serial killer? see in you 12 minutes.
we have breaking news out of north carolina. a school on lockdown after a shooting. one person is hurt after another opened fire inside. there are reports that the person shot is a student. no word on his or her condition just yet. the shooter thousand is in police custody. and again, albemarle high school in north carolina is on lockdown. shooter is in custody. in the meantime, switching gears, she s been off the air for more than a year after a scandal that made national headlines, but this morning paula deen is climbing back to the top with her launch of a new network. in my world, food is comfort. food is friendship. and food is love. y all have been so wonderful to have me in y all s home over the years. well, now i would like to invite
you into my home. welcome to the paula deen network. that s right. and joining us are paula deen and her two boys, jamie and bobby. good morning. it s great being back. great to have you back, as well. we re so excited about the network. i can imagine. first of all, let s start, how is your health? you know, it s really good. my last checkup, my a1 dc was 5.4. what s that? it s like sugar.dc was 5.4. what s that? it s like sugar.c was 5.4. what s that? it s like sugar. so i m doing very, very well. god s blessed me with great physical strength. that s great. you ve had quite a year. sman what you re doing on the new network. it s so much done. my son loves it and what we re doing is we re actually making it we re helping you save
money, save have great tools fo shopping. it s entertaining, fun, a look if to our family s life. bobly takes the persona of a 70s game show host. and jack my oldest grandson has got it down perfect. all right. it s fun. it s fun and also a very useful tool for people. i was on the website yesterday and there are a lot of good recipes. and tips. we make and yyou a grocery list. but you take your phone to the grocery store and it breaks down by the aisle for you. and i have found that if i go without a list, i spend much more homoney.
if i have a list, i stick to it. you don t need to put many things on your list if you make the cheese ball. this is a very simple recipe. we do have lighter menus, la lighter fare. but we re using full bacon, mayonnaise and cheese. it s football season, steve. an so you need dips and things like that around while you re watching the football game. you need good cheese balls. yes. you can make a ball and then put dried tomatoes on it anded it look like an apple. he bosses me around all the ti time. here i m doing your ball for you. you re supposed to be doing this. i m watching them with the bacon.
so real simple. cream cheese, mayonnaise you can put anything you want to in it. and what are you doing here? just sicking the toasted almonds in. so it looks like because take a look at what it looks like at the end. just use fresh rosemary. isn t that cute? because you know what, this time of year, i would probably do it in the shape of a pumpkin. what would you put on the outside? just that. he d be a brown pumpkin. look how smart you are. yeah, taste it. but any shape. you can also do this in the shape of a football, shape of a basketball. but isn t that yummy? delicious. needs more bacon. you re right. i m a firm believer and
that s what i m trying to do for this network. i don t think when you go into the kitchen it should be hard. it should be fun. it should be fun because that s the way we get our children, our family, our friends in the kitchen with us. it s that vehicle. i call my boys and say i m frying pork chops, they re there. early. check it out. it s paula deen network.com. more as we roll on live from new york city.
one for the road. watch this incredible trick play. quarterback walks through the defensive line and walks into a
touchdown. coach said he imitated a play from 1994 and renamed it the ugly kardashian. that was great. bill: there are stunning new details about the latest white house breach. they are learning the men who hopped the fence made it all into the white house before being caught by the secret service. i m bill hemmer. martha: i m martha maccallum. these new developments will likely take center stage as julia pearson will testify before the house and she ll have to stick up for her agency on

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