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>> we are a country of laws. we need borders. we will have a wall, the wall will be built, the wall will be successful, and if you think walls don't work, all you have to do is ask israel. >> what we need to do is ask people to earn legal status where they don't commit crimes and learn english. that's the proper path. >> clearly a big disagreement on the immigration issue. do you think so he made his case? >> oh, yeah, he made his case from day one when he was running. this country has laws. donald trump is the one who can enforce that and get that into place. >> do you really think he can get out the i'llegal immigrants? thousands of them? >> it's going to take time, no
so that's what dependent on the white vote gets you in the modern era. >> the country is changing. one of the things marco rubio was talking tonight, and he got in a fight with rand paul about it, was the expansion of child tax credits. this was a big issue for rubio. he was very passionate in talking about it. he said family is the most important institution. we care about families. i want to do it. rand paul said how can you be a conservative and propose something like that that adds $1 trillion to the deficit. it's a $1 trillion expenditure. that argument is front and center, spending, how you spend your money, immigration. the debate laid it out there for republican voters. >> i give these candidates a lot of credit for sticking to their convicti
but they clearly made a decision, probably even before this began, they weren't going to do that. most likely because they wanted this to be a stark contrast to the cnbc debate. >> there is some personal drama here. one of the moderators who used to work at cnbc, roojer ales who runs fox used to run cnbc. there was a desire to show cnbc how to have a great debate. and by that standard, i think the fox folks feel very confident tonight. they feel like they had a very good night. i think as a reminder, these debates are for gop primary voters. the democrats watching are probably yelling at the tv becauthey want more follow-up and want tougher questions at certain points. but for the primary voters, those voter, those viewers tend to be more happy with how it goes. they see their candidates being respected. these debates have extraordinarily high viewership, thanks to donald trump.
>> donald is wrong on this. he's absolutely wrong on this. we're not going to be the world's policemen, but we sure as heck better be the world's leader. there's a huge difference. without us leading, voids are filled. and the idea that it's a good idea for putin to be in syria, let isis talk out assad and then they'll take out isis, that's a board game. that's not how the real world works. >> mr. trump been aties himself as a very good negotiator. and i accept that he's done a lot of good deals. so mr. trump ought to know that we should not speak to people from a position of weakness. senator paul should know that as well. one of the reasons i've said that i would not be talking to vladimir putin right now, although i have met him as well, not in a green room for a show, but in a private meeting, [ applause ] >> bernie sanders and hillary clinton won't tell you that's really the thing hurting the