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raspberry day, and we re also getting an ice bath later in the show. will s hunting for clothes. you may not need any because today s also international skinny dipping day. so stick around at the end of the 9:00 hour, and we ll see if will s feeling festive. will: they re giving me a hard time because i didn t wear much more, training exercise for our hudson river swim carley: that s why you re doing the cold plunged today, right? will: is that why? pete: i think the theme is carley: the training. will: you basically skinny dipped in the hudson carley: what were you wearing? will: a speedo. carley: really? you own a speedo? will: well, you only need one carley: what color is it? will: it s black but it s got some red in it. [laughter] carley: why were you wearing a speedo? will: i grew up a swimmer and i played water polo in college, and i don t feel like many do and and i m not saying you shouldn t feel weird in a speedo, but not for me when you re exercising. ....
a lonely, self-consumed, self-serving, mirror hog is not a leader. steve kornacki will join me from the big board on whether these two can find a lane. we are waiting for updates from the vatican. the sudden news that pope francis is undergoing abdominal surgery and we remain in the hospital for several days. good day. i m andra mitchell in washington. we are on indictment watch after a number of developments in separate grand jury investigations into former president trump. joining me now is ken dilanian, former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official chuck rosenberg, washington post deputy national editor phil rucker and jackie alemany. take us through the latest. including new details about key testimony from secret service agents, mark meadows and that top trump insider. that s right. a lot going on. it started this morning when our cameras caught taylor budowich, this political aid to former president donald trump, walking into a courthouse in miami. he l ....
saying that where it counts. in court. not yet. but the former president s attorneys did tip their hand that they think an indictment could be coming against mr. trump and the mar-a-lago case, pointing out any documents, if that evidence exists, could be used in future charges. got it covered from all angles including from outside the courthouse. we know the demonstrators who have showed up in brooklyn behind you, not surprisingly i think given the fact it s brooklyn, new york city, leans democratic. they are anti-trump demonstrators. you ve also seen the arrival of some of the attorneys, yes. yeah, i think we got some of this video in which the trio of attorneys now representing trump arrived a few minutes ago. yelled at by several demonstrators here that are also in attendance. this is the brooklyn federal courthouse. we re just about ten minutes here from manhattan. this is the first time in which the judge is going to be meeting with not only the doj, but also wit ....
absurd claims. since the fbi searched donald trump s private residence and members club back in august. the ex-president declassified all the documents that he could declassify them if he wanted to, quote, even by thinking about it. it is a claim that has been repeated over and over and over again by trump and his allies. the disgraced ex-president mentioned it in public and the media appearances so many times. not one single time has that claim been made in a court of law. now new reporting suggests that the question of whether there is an a proof that he declassified the documents is a major interest to prosecutors at doj. new york times is reporting that federal prosecutors and former president trump s handling of national security documents, what a question one of his confident ants about a claim that trup declassified the documents. that confidante is cash patel, one of trump s biggest defenders in the documents investigation. he is a trump loyalist who made a ca ....
according to ken dilanian, that is a designation by a cia officer or possibly dia based on conversations with human source overseas, ie, a spy. there s also orcon originator control, noforn, as in cannot be shared with foreign nationals, fisa and si, signals intelligence, in order intercepts of communications. it also contains the marking fpotus, handwritten note, as in fots the former president of the united states is believed to have written after he left the presidency. and in a 13-page memo explaining why the d.o.j. made redactions, the government argues it needed to, quote, protect the safety and privacy of a significant number of civilian witnesses in addition to law enforcement. key in on those words, a significant number of civilian witnesses. we ll explain what that tells us. but first to note, the court s system, the web site, crashed, which is why the redacted affidavit did not come out until about 15 minutes after the noon deadline. apparently there were jus ....