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Anderson Cooper 360-20130406-03:25:00

people were laughing and talking as they wanted. they were wearing what they wanted. it was very shocking. >> how did you manage to get out of north korea? >> translator: i was just trying to get away from the camp and i ended up going north. and on the northern side, people talked a lot about china. >> did you know where china was? >> translator: no. not at all. it just happened that the way i was going was toward the border. >> with amazing luck and cunning, shin managed to steal and bribe his way across the border and quietly work his way through china, where he would have been sent back if he was caught. in shanghai, he snuck into the south korean consulate and was granted asylum. in 2006, he arrived in south korea with not a friend in the world. he was so overwhelmed by culture shock and post-traumatic stress, he had to be hospitalized. more than seven years later, it's remarkable how far shin's come. he's 30 now, has made friends and built a new life for himself in seoul, south korea. but old demons from camp 14 are

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130406-03:26:00

never far behind. shin now admits there was something he was hiding. two years ago he finally confessed to author blain harden. >> when he first told me about the execution of his mother and brother, he didn't say that he had turned them in. >> you reported your mother and your brother? >> translator: yes. >> what did you hope to get out of reporting your mother and your brother? >> translator: being full for the first time. >> more food? >> translator: yes. but the biggest reason was i was supposed to report it. >> why was shin tortured after ratting out his mother and brother? >> the guard who he ratted out to did not tell his superiors

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130406-06:16:00

considered to be wrongdoers or wrong thinkers. >> i never heard of anything like that. >> it's unique in the 20th or 21st century. mao didn't do it, stalin didn't do it. hitler of course tried to exterminate entire families but in the post world war ii world, it's only korea that had this practice. >> north korea denies it has any political prisons, but refuses to allow outside observers to inspect camp 14 and other sites. there's no way to verify all the details of shin's story. do you believe his story? >> oh, sure. his story is consistent with the testimony of other prisoners in every respect. >> there is also physical evidence he carries around with him to this day. the tip of his finger is missing. he says it was chopped off as punishment when he accidentally broke a machine in a prison factory. he also has serious scars on his back, stomach and ankles which

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130406-06:25:00

>> translator: yeah. >> he was a fugitive now in rural north korea, on the run in one of the poorest, most repressive countries in the world, but that's not how it seemed to him. what did the outside world look like? >> translator: it was like heaven. people were laughing and talking as they wanted. they were wearing what they wanted. it was very shocking. >> how did you manage to get out of north korea? >> translator: i was just trying to get away from the camp and i ended up going north. and on the northern side, people talked a lot about china. >> did you know where china was? >> translator: no. not at all. it just happened that the way i was going was toward the border. >> with amazing luck and cunning, shin managed to steal and bribe his way across the border and quietly work his way through china, where he would have been sent back if he was caught. in shanghai, he snuck into the south korean consulate and was granted asylum. in 2006, he arrived in south korea with not a friend in the

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130406-00:13:00

what love was when you were, for the first 23 years of your life? >> translator: i still don't know what that means. >> love may have been absent, but fear was not. in this building, a school of sorts, shin says he watched his teacher beat a little girl to death for hoarding a few kernels of corn, a violation of prison rules which he and the other students were required to learn by heart. >> translator: if you escaped, you would be shot. if you tried to escape or planned to escape, you would be shot. even if you did not report someone who was trying to escape, you would be shot. >> the shootings took place in this field, he says. the other prisoners were required to watch. as frightening as the executions were, shin considered them a break from the monotony of hard labor and constant hunger. the prisoners were fed the same thin gruel of corn meal and cabbage day in and day out. they were so hungry, shin says, they ate rats and insects to

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130406-06:23:00

camp. >> this man is a veteran foreign correspondent who first reported shin's story in the "washington post" and later wrote a book about his life. >> he had no compass by which to judge his behavior. >> he had a compass but the compass were the rules of the camp. the only compass he had. and it was only when he was 23, when he met somebody from the outside that that started to change. >> when he met park? >> when he met park. >> park was a new prisoner shin says he met while working in camp 14's textile factory. unlike shin, park had seen the outside world. he had lived in pyongyang and traveled in china, and he began to tell shin what life was like on the other side of the fence. >> translator: i paid most attention to what kind of food he ate outside the camp. >> what kind of food had he eaten? >> translator: oh, a lot of different things. broiled chicken, barbecued pig. the most important thing was the thought that even a prisoner

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130406-06:26:00

world. he was so overwhelmed by culture shock and post-traumatic stress, he had to be hospitalized. more than seven years later, it's remarkable how far shin's come. he's 30 now, has made friends and built a new life for himself in seoul, south korea. but old demons from camp 14 are never far behind. shin now admits there was something he was hiding. two years ago he finally confessed to author blain harden. >> when he first told me about the execution of his mother and brother, he didn't say that he had turned them in. >> you reported your mother and your brother? >> translator: yes. >> what did you hope to get out of reporting your mother and your brother? >> translator: being full for the first time. >> more food? >> translator: yes. but the biggest reason was i was supposed to report it. >> why was shin tortured after

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130406-00:16:00

evidence he carries around with him to this day. the tip of his finger is missing. he says it was chopped off as punishment when he accidentally broke a machine in a prison factory. he also has serious scars on his back, stomach and ankles which he was willing to show us, but embarrassed to show on camera. he says he received those wounds here in an underground torture center. he was tortured because his mother and older brother were accused of trying to escape. he was just 13 years old at the time. >> did they think that you were involved in the escape? >> translator: i'm sure they did. >> how did they torture you? >> translator: they hung me by the ankles. and they tortured me with fire. and from the scars that i have, the wounds on my body, i think they couldn't have done more to me. >> shin says he tried to convince his interrogators he wasn't part of the escape plot. he didn't know if they believed him until one day, when they

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130406-03:22:00

the public execution site, i thought that i might be killed. i was brought to the very front. that's where i saw my mother and my brother being dragged out. and that's when i knew that it wasn't me. >> how did they kill your mother? >> translator: they hung her. and they shot my brother. >> he speaks of it still without visible emotion and admits he felt no sadness watching his mother and brother die. he thought they got what they deserved. they had, after all, broken the prison rules. >> he believed the rules of the camp. >> this man is a veteran foreign correspondent who first reported shin's story in the "washington post" and later wrote a book about his life. >> he had no compass by which to judge his behavior. >> he had a compass but the compass were the rules of the camp. the only compass he had. and it was only when he was 23, when he met somebody from the outside that that started to change. >> when he met park? >> when he met park.

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130406-00:22:00

>> he speaks of it still without visible emotion and admits he felt no sadness watching his mother and brother die. he thought they got what they deserved. they had, after all, broken the prison rules. >> he believed the rules of the camp. >> this man is a veteran foreign correspondent who first reported shin's story in the "washington post" and later wrote a book about his life. >> he had no compass by which to judge his behavior. >> he had a compass but the compass were the rules of the camp. the only compass he had. and it was only when he was 23, when he met somebody from the outside that that started to change. >> when he met park? >> when he met park. >> park was a new prisoner shin says he met while working in camp 14's textile factory. unlike shin, park had seen the outside world. he had lived in pyongyang and traveled in china, and he began to tell shin what life was like on the other side of the fence.

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