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Were removed from the park. we re also hearing reports that there might have been some of the 13-year-old girl s possessions, possibly clothing, found in the park. jon: is this guy hoffman, he has a criminal record, i understand. what for? arson, related to a robbery in colorado about ten years ago. apparently he set fire to a townhouse to cover up a burglary inside of a home, destroyed two of the townhouses, forced 16 people out of their homes, but eventually, first of all, no one was injured, but hoffman was found guilty and served prison time in colorado. jon: steve brown, reporting live, steve, thank you. jenna: back to some politics now, the brand new freshman class arriving today on capitol hill and one person says washington right now is like a haunted house and a baptist church. that person, cries ....
Get your take on the other side. mitch is a good friend. on this issue we disagree. you would see spending come down dramatically if you took out all the self-interest that earmarks remit. jon: apparently, senator mcconnell has been saying that earmarks really are just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the amount of money the federal government spends. reporter: well, senator mcconnell is right in the big picture as far as the dollar amounts and also the fact that earmarks in and of themselves are not the appropriation. they are not the money. they are the directing of that money, the pots of money in all these different departments are already decided at one point, and the earmarks are exactly where that money is directed to. so it s nuance in how you define the earmark, but the bottom line is we expect to hear senate minority leader mitch mcconnell address this in a speech in a couple of hours on the senate floor, and you will likely hear more of a definition ....
Jon: brand new developments in the case of a missing family in ohio, right now police blocking off a park near the home where one member of that family, a 13-year-old girl, was found gagged and bound but alive. the suspect has been charged with kidnapping. as the search goes on for the teenager s mother, brother and another woman, a family friend. steve brown is following this story live in chicago. how big is this park that they re searching, steve? reporter: it s pretty substantially large. it s just north of hoffman s home where the 13-year-old girl was found. in it, three retention ponds. we re told it used to be a gravel court and property was turned over to the city of mount vernon and turned into a park. so police are looking spoke that. late news from our local affiliate is that four bags of, quote, possible evidence ....
To do that. i wish my colleagues in the senate, led by my dear friend jim demint, all the luck, all the success in the world to get the senates, to get the r-7s to partner with that. the american people want to see us change the way we spend money n. large ways and in small ways, and i believe they re calling for a fundamental reform of the budget process, and that begins with ending earmarks. jenna: congressman, feel good to be tbhak d.c.? find of feel kind of feel comfortable back there again? look, i said last night to a lot of gathered freshmen at the capitol building, when my wife and i were walking up the capitol building steps t. hadn t looked that great for a while and with all the conservatives coming to capitol hill, the courageous men and women who made the sacrifice to be part of this new republican majority, it s a good day here in washington, d.c. jenna: we ll be watching you step by step congressman. thank you very much for joining us today, we appreciate it very muc ....
It does appear there is some disagreement on that jury, jon. last thursday, which was the last day of deliberations, the judge asked the jury essentially how things were going, and the foreman replied on thursday, quote, we ve been talking about certain points all day. it will take a long time to get into anything else. that was thursday. the jury had a three-day weekend, they began their deliberations this morning about three hours ago, and as best we know, the deliberations continue at this hour. jon? jon: so is there any indication of what might be holding up a verdict here? david, any indication what might be holding up the verdict? this looks like we don t have an audio feed into david jenna: he usually doesn t ignore you. j. jon: no, he s a very smart man, and he usually has the answers to most of those questions. we ll try to reconnect. jenna: really interesting trial. jon: it is. and kind of surprising they ....