For his testimony about january 6 and his interactions with then president trump. pence argues that because he was president of the senate that day, he is shielded by the constitution s speech or debate clause protecting lawmakers. but pence has already written a memoir detailing his interactions with trump, so that could complicate his efforts to resist the subpoena asking him to talk about it. the mississippi state senate resuming this morning on this controversial republican house bill that would create an unelected state appointed court system in a strict within jackson, a majority black city. supporters say the bill addresses rising crime in the area. critics say takes takeover by white politicians that looks like apartheid. omar jimenez has more. reporter: two sides here are essentially working through two different versions of this bill. now, the senate side, they are
Succeeding, but only a very long shot chance here. and pence has already announced plans to fight his subpoena. he says he s shielded by the constitution s speech or debate clause. american author marian williamson has once again announced she will run for president in 2024. the democrat launched her campaign on friday, setting up a primary challenge to president joe biden who is widely expected to seek re-election. williamson told supporters that she s running to fight economic and social injustices. here she is. we know that this country is plagued by many challenges now, not the least of which is hatred and division, which is greater than any of us have experienced in our national life. and it is our job to create a vision of justice and love that is so powerful that it will override the forces of hatred and injustice and fear. you may remember williamson preached a similar message to voters during her previous campaign in 2020, which failed to gain traction.
Leadership, decapitate the leadership at doj and install an environmental attorney known as jeffrey clark as trump s attorney general because clark was willing to go along with it and to use doj to overthrow the election result by heeding what we know was trump s call, because it s in writing, to just declare the election corrupt. to say that doj had found evidence of voter fraud, which we all now know, even bill barr knew and told trump, was bull for its part doj has since then seized congressman perry s phone. it happened back in august. as part of the criminal investigation into the effort by trump and others to overturn the 2020 election result. but the fbi has been unable to review its contents because perry is saying that he s protected by the constitution s speech or debate clause. if it sounds familiar, it s because pence is using that too. here s the twist.
it is not a long shot, kasie. believe it or not. you have to go right back to the constitution. so look, article i, section 3 of the constitution says like you said, the vice president shall be the president of the senate. the person who is in effect controlling or running the senate, sort of why kamala harris over the last two years cast so many tiebreak votes because she was in a role as president of the senate. you read a little further into the constitution, there s this speech or debate clause. article 1, section 6. it says members of congress shall not be questioned, and that s interpreted to mean in court over actions that come in their official duties. the question is does mike pence count under the law as qu quote/unquote a member of congress when he s seated at the dais. you and i both know he s vice president of the united states, number two of the president, but that role as the principal leader of the senate might come into some legal questioning. and courts have to sort that out. yeah, i mean, it really is
Pence apparently tried to duck out of testifying before the special counsel in the probe into donald trump. a source tells cnn pence s lawyers plan to fight the subpoena with an unexpected strategy. they re going to argue that since the vice president serves as president of the senate, he is covered by the constitution s speech or debate clause. that protects legislators from having to testify in these kinds of situations. you may remember that senator lindsey graham tried to use that argument in the georgia trump investigation. graham is of course an actual elected member of the legislative branch, and that argument got rejected in that case. cnn legal analyst elliot williams is here to help us break it all down. elliot, obviously, i m not a lawyer. i do cover politics so i have plenty of theories about why from a political perspective he wants to fight this subpoena. but from a legal perspective, is this a long shot, does pence have a case with this argument?
And july 2nd, 2010, we were called on a mission. and that was the day i got hit. transitioning back to civilian life was extremely difficult. you feel like an outsider every it was hard to admit defeat. and that s exactly what i felt like i was doing when i finally contacted the wounded warrior project. i knew that i needed help. and when i reached out, they gave me tools to better my life. they truly saved my life. senator lindsey graham will now have to testify in a georgia probe investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election. the supreme court declined graham s request to block the subpoena. he argued, the constitution s speech or debate clause shielded him from testifying. two years ago, the georgia secretary of state told the washington post that graham