so many ways to look at this. because you asked about sean, that s one way. another way is also what this says, maybe much more importantly, about the president of the united states, and how he has learned from the first six months about the way he wants to craft his white house with people who are loyal to him. people who know him, who are new yorkers. and are much more fluent in the language of trump than in the ways of washington. we re going to talk much more about that. jen palmieri, white house comes director for president obama and of course, you will know her from the hillary clinton campaign where she also served chief of communications there. jen, thanks for joining us. give us your reaction to this. all right. can jen? can you hear me? all right. we re going to try to work out the connection with jen palmieri, we ll bring her in soon as we have her. going to scaramucci, and i m sure sean believes that he s not the right guy for the job. and he d been we were seeing him sidelined as the spokesman. then squeezed from the more strategic side, squeezed out by scaramucci. bringing back jen palmpalmieri. i think she s on the phone. oh. not meant to be today. all right. we re going to keep trying. make third time will be a charm here. right? i know. better reception. okay. chris, your thoughts on this? fights and slights. that s the story of sean spicer over six months s fights with the press. slights from the president. right? this is a very difficult job for anyone. i mean, being the press secretary for the white house. it is an even more difficult job if you are the press secretary for donald trump, because donald trump views himself as his best press secretary, chief strategy, he s best everything, probably. some the start, dana mentioned that sean is someone who if you spent any time in washington you knew he s been around campaigns for a long time. been around the republican national committee a long time. folks i talk to who are friends of his when he got this job initially said i don t know. he s always been i wrote a piece i don t think is published. if he could do it? yeah. always been a bulldog how he would come out of it. always had the reputation, go over get that person and did that well in the context of campaigns especially. this job is not that. and i think he struggled as anyone would to balance, you are, jeff can speak to this more so, but your boss is the president of the united states. period. but you re also beholden to a white house press corps that has asks, has demands, has waying in which they want to interact with you. from the start, january 21st, a saturday, the day after donald trump became president, sean spicer opened with a lecture of the media what they were covering and why, dana mentioned this, inauguration size. proved a couple things. one, he was going to be a trump guy. right away. willing to basically state a lie from the podium. and willing to say whatever to make donald trump happy. we felt that the audience at that time was donald trump nap it wasn t really the press he was before. i want to talk about that, but tell us as we re looking at these live pictures coming to us from the brady briefing room at the white house, all reporters gathered there. what are they doing? probably trying to go back into lower press. the area behind that door they re gathered outside. exactly. where other white house spokespeople and deputy spokespeople sit or go through the door and then to the left, which takes you up in the direction of the oval office and the area we call upper press. where sean has his office or where the press secretary has his or her office. is this a normally it s open. right? at least it was during the obama administration. is it open in the trump administration? normally open. there are times they cut the press off something going on and don t want people to come back for. a president s movement or just don t want the throng of reporters to steep back there. and as we ve watched, i want to get to brian stealther in a moment. as we ve watched sean spicer over these months, the audience was the president. right? as much or maybe perhaps more than it was the reporters that he was sparring with in the briefing room. he has been absolutely 100% loyal to president trump. whether or not that is a decision he will be happy with now that he leaves the white house is something only sean can talk about, but during his time as press secretary, interactions with us as the correspondents association, with reporters generally from the podium, he has been the number one advocate for president trump. which is somewhat interesting, only because he s not a trump guy, per se. again. no. this is the person during the election working for the rnc and part of the really establishment republican wing. he s a wanted that job. he did. reince priebus advocated for him to have the job and seen as trump bringing in outsiders. it s important, it was mentioned. spicer matters for spicer but also matters symbolically. this is donald trump bringing in friends, people close to him and close to his family. i want to get in brian stelter joining us from new york. new reporting. what can you tell us? our colleague michael smerconish might have been the last person to meet with spicer when this went down. in his office between 9:00 and 9:45. quoting smerconish, nothing of his mannerisms that would tell you this was a person that was about to quit his job. maybe he was thinking about it for a while but it erupted this morning. you have to go back to the year 2000 to find the last time a press secretary resigned after only six months. that was the end of the clinton administration. that person had to leave and let the bushes come in. normally these press secretaries stay a couple of years. robert gibbs. first obama press secretary stays two years. guys, this is a symptom of a larger disease. spicer s struggles are the symptoms of a bigger disease, the president s dishonest, self-defeating merging. we ll see if anthony scaramucci can change that. dana, michael smerconish talking to sean spicer, doesn t seem like a guy who was going to quit his job. what does that tell us how out of the loop spicer was when it came to this announcement? my understanding, i talked to a source close to sean who said sean was very well aware as of last night that this was a very real possibility. and you know, he didn t my sense is that he s worked for donald trump long enough to know it wasn t real until was actually happening, because he s heard stories of his demise many times before. or about about white house shake-ups, whatever you want to call this. as of last night he understood that scaramucci would be brought in as communications director that that was a very real possibility and he didn t know how he would react realtime, whether he would quit. clearly when presented, he decided, i m out. i want to listen to what have become memorable moments of sean spicer as press secretary. this was the largest audience to ever witness and inauguration, period. both in person and around the globe. when we use words like travel ban that misrepresents what it is. i ve said it from the day that i got here until whatever that there is no connection. you ve got russia. if the president puts russian salad dressing on his salad, somehow that s a russian connection. but every single person well, no. that s, i appreciate your agenda here but the reality 2340, no. hold on. at some point report the facts. sean, do you have hey, sean sean sean! come on, sean! all right. so those were i mean pretty astounding moments you don t normally see with a press secretary. you covered president bush s, second president bush, you covered president obama s white house. when you look at those moments just in the last six months what do you think with some institutional knowledge you have about what is normal? it s been a very, shall we say, temperatu tempestuous year. it s been tricky. the relationship between the white house and the press corps is largely set by the press secretary and the press secretary s staff, and we ve worked, the correspondents association, which i m about to leave as the president next week, has worked really hard on that relationship. it hasn t always been successful. we certainly haven t always agreed on a lot of things. it s been tricky. and you know, did you say the word normal ? okay. that s an important word. yeah. because the definition of normal washington standard normal, press secretaries, press briefing, press corps. the interaction, strategy of communications. this has been underscored to me by people close to the president and close to all the players again this morning. what we have learned and it was obvious watching it unfold in the last six months, now especially in retrospect and at this moment, that was gone. that was never really going to work with donald trump in the white house but now we know that he tried. he tried to sort of twist himself into the washington the washington ways, i mean, the most traditional, the most basic level of how communication strategy works, but it s not who he is. which is why end of the day he is his communications director. he does it, end of story, and he wants a guy who gets how he thinks, been loyal a killer on tv to kwum come on tv and be th guy. strategizing on communications will never work for a guy maybe self-aware enough to know he changes that with a single tweet. i just heard from a source, this is all trump s call. trump is the one who stopped scaramucci from coming in, in the first place. initially. and now he wants him in. the question i have and have been talking to people about is, how does this affect the balance of power inside the white house? what does this doss to reince priebus? he and reince priebus haven t been close. he blames reince priebus, dana reported, for stopping him from getting another job as special advisers. they were going to move him into the white house. they did not occur. pending drama? well, how will that how will that play out? the truth of the matter is, as dana is pointing out, is that everything now seems to be up in the air. people have to figure out a way to deal with each other. in these relationships that start out very fragile, because there is history. there is history here. and can i say one thing jie was told by a source very close to scaramucci that he, you know, even though he feels reince blocked him particular being in the white house the first six months he doesn t hold grudges, doesn t want to be chief of staff. he wants to do the kind of thing trudge is bringing him in to do and will probably try to make nice with reince priebus giving an on the record quote saying he s fine with this, wants to make nice. in their self-interests. and to your point, too, that donald trump at some level likes the clash of advisers. he s set a system up where there were four people, steve bannon, reince priebus, jared kushner and kellyanne conway who were going to clash with one another. who had different views. he placed them off of one another. that s what he does. the fact they don t necessarily haven t always gotten along is less disqualifying in this way than others. can i make one other very quick point? we ll be back for more and jeff has to run to get to the briefing, outgoing president of the white house correspondents association final word. well, i know that the next four that starts next week will want to work with the incoming communications director and whoever becomes the press secretary as well, but it will be interesting to watch just to sort of sum up what we ve didn t saying here and also what the other implications are of this move for the rest of the press team, that reporters rely on every day for information from the white house. hold tight. when we come back, much more on our breaking news. the resignation of white house press secretary sean spicer. stay with us. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me, and you re talking to your rheumatologist about a medication. .this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain. .and protect my joints from further damage. humira has been clinically studied for over 18 years. humira works by targeting and helping to. .block a specific source. .of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. it s proven to help relieve pain and. .stop further joint damage in many adults. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas. .where certain fungal infections are common and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flulike symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. talk to your doctor and visit humira.com this is humira at work. it s straight talk. if you love your phone but hate your bill. do something about it! no, not that. straight talk wireless let s you keep your phone, number and 4g lte network for a lot less, with the bring your own phone activation kit. it s time to ask yourself. why haven t i switched? unlimited talk, text and data for forty-five dollars a month, no contract. straight talk wireless. only at walmart. keeping our eye on the briefing room at the white house because the conference is about to happen in a few minutes. democratic senator chris van hollen of maryland. sir what is your reaction to this breaking news? well, brianna, it s impossible being the press secretary or the communications director in this administration, because the chaos starts at the very top. it starts with the president. the president who tweets out stuff that pops into his mind. the president that invites reporters into the white house and at a time when we re discussing health care, talks to the new york times about, you know, putting pressure on mueller to drop his investigation. goes after his own attorney general. this is a president that cannot stick to the issues that the american public cares most about, which is get health care, the economy, and those issues. this is a perfect example of the chaos at the white house taking the focus of thie things important to the country. do you think this signifies something different inside the west wing? clearly not only a chaotic involvement but seems to be a lot of in-fighting because a lot of people strongly objected to this appointment. that only compounds sort of the natural chaotic dna of this administration, because we know week to week when people want to focus on one thing, all of a sudden, you know, they re over the rails talking about something else. so look, in the in the senate we re supposedly taking up a health care proposal. all have been rotten so far. the president, you know, begged the senators to get on with that bill, and here we are where he s again changing message, changing focus away from things the public cares about. this seems to be something that is very much a part of this president, a part of this administration, but i would say this latest development has exposed the in-fighting even more than before. do you think that as we see a new communications director come in, that that could spell something different for the white house? or are you just expecting more of the same, since scaramucci is such a loyalist to the president? it s hard to see anything different. again, because you ve got a president of the united states who at all hours of the day or night tweets out whatever pops into his head and seems to be really obsessed with the russia investigation. right? all of these big issues that we re looking at as a country, whether it s the health care issue. or the economy. but he seems very obsessed with robert mueller and the fbi investigation. which i think is leading a lot of people to ask, what is it that they are trying to hide here? why is he so determined to sabotage that investigation rather than come clean? and as long as that s the top of mind for the president, then it s going to be really hard for the administration to move on. they should just cooperate with the investigation. come clean and focus on issues that are important to the country. senator chris van hollen, thank you so much for joining us. thank you. with this breaking news. we were going to talk about something different and here we are with this story really just dominating our discussion. standinging by now for the first white house briefing since the announcement of sean spicer s resignation. we re going to, of course, bring that to you live when it happens. i want to get now to cnn white house reporter kaitlyn collins, joining us now. tell us what we are expecting from this briefing, kaitlyn? reporter: we are expecting a briefing any minute. the first on-camera briefing in several weeks. irony the day the press secretary steps down from his position we will finally see sarah huckabee sanders, deputy press secretary on-camera today. you know sean spicer quit earlier after being announced anthony scaramucci would join the team as the communications director. we re told no other staffers knew last night that scaramucci would be tagged by the president this morning, that sean spicer, reince priebus and steve bannon were largely left in the dark for this decision and did not know. we re told that though sean spicer is upset he was there in his office as reince priebus introduced him to the rest of the communications team with a round of applause. just we re looking there at live pictures, reporters in the room, in the briefing room there, kaitlyn. not unusual to be milling about as they wait for this briefing but really trying to get answers and it seems like the door there to the lower press office is closed at this hour. right? as they get their ducks in a row for the briefing? reporter: yeah. a mad house ever since. so many reporters standing outside of sean spicer s office to ask questions about scaramucci, when sean spicer came out, shut his door and a few reporters standing there, when the news broke he had resigned. it s been kind of crazy. reporters can typically stand up in that upper hall way outside of the upper white house communications staffers offices but they ve been pushed downstairs as they sort out the messages for the briefing today at 2:00. quite a scene. stand by kaitlyn in the briefing room as we await this briefing and we ll bring that to you live here on cnn. news, of course, the white house press secretary sean spicer resigned. what is sending shock waves through the white house there. you see pictures. joining me on the phone former white house communications director for president obama and communications director on the hillary clinton campaign, jennifer palmieri with me now. jen, you ve been following this breaking news. what s your reaction? i guess i have two thoughts. one is, with sean, i know him a little bit. see him at the base. seems like a nice person and i i think he probably should have resigned on day one, when he was first asked to do the, to go out with the fake news about the president s inaugural crowd, and no job is worth that. but i m glad you know, i am glad he has he has left now. a lot of people questioned whether he stayed in the white house. but i can understand why they would want to do that. in terms of anthony scaramucci taking over white house communications director. you know, there s a i think people who have had has job, we all tried to support each other. when i had that job, president bush s communications director was very supportive and helpful to me. there s a rhythm to a white house regardless of the party in there and we try to support each other, but i m not sure that an her to scaramucci i know a little bit but my impression is, he s not going to do the job with the idea that your job is to help te president of the united states communicate with the american public. that s a very important responsibility. that s not about spin or putting or saying i want to even convey the president s message if a possible light although hats part of the job. the fundamental responsibility you have is making sure that the president of the united states is appropriately communicating with the american people which is a big part of his job. from what i have seen of how anthony scaramucci performs, he ll be, you know, on television and affective, if you consider, you know, just being a very aggressive sort of attack dog affective. but i don t suspect he ll do you know, we ll see. i don t expect he ll do the part of the job i would do and about actually trying to plan, communications you know, advantages of the team and communicating what the president was trying, his agenda and what he s trying to speak to, to that point, dan fyfe, senior adviser, he proceeded you? right. proceeded you and fwetweeted saying i have a particular buy is, white house communications director is a much harder and complicated job than campaign surrogate. you were talking a litte bit about that. certainly being a member of an administration, jen, there s an element of loyalty. right? but sometimes it that loyalty comes in the form of maybe some constructive criticism. you know what i m saying here? this idea that you i do. and it does seem like this president values l s loyalty a . is there a way essentially, is this kind of being shuffled where scaramucci might be the face but there may be someone else kind of helping out with the job that traditionally, that you had? right. doing the actual work of, you know, creating the communications by the administration. i don t know. this administration doesn t seem to worry too much about communication planning. i expect anthony scaramucci will end up on television and and the network will have to decide how to handle that if he just goes on and lies a bunch. it s a difficult job because you are caught between the press and the president that you serve. ed the attendance at you get the rap when a bad story comes out. jennifer, looks like a big press problem just because the press is covering something wasn t going well. that doesn t make it a press problem, but not every politician and certainly president trump is not equipped so to speak, to accept that just because a story, a bad story appears in the press doesn t mean that it s the fault of the communications staff, and you have to, you know, presidents get very frustrated with the press and you re the person that can absorb that, have to absorb that frustration and also tell the hard truth. let me just tell you. i know that s what you want to say, but if you say that, this is the impact of, you know, of of spouting off that way, and that might be okay in the moment but it will have reaper cushion repercussions. the rubber meets the road. you live in the reality the press covers every day and you ve got to tell the president the hard things how it s going to be covered. i m not sure that scaramucci, i m not sure he s really going to do that. it is certainly a tough job. jen palmieri, former communications director under president obama joining us there on the phone. dana bash, you just spoke with sean spicer. i did, while talking to jen palmieri, scooted off the set to take a quick call from sean spicer. headline, answer to the question, why now, that he gave to me is, he wanted to give the president and the new team a clean slate. that that s the answer. that he is giving. he said, he told me that the president made clear that he, the president, wanted sean spicer to stay and sean told him, you know, that he said he didn t want to stand in the way from letting this happen, from letting changes happen, and that he felt in the moment that the time was right for the white house and the white house staff and also for sean spicer personally. time to go. sources say he s upset. they do. i can tell you that he did not sound upset when i talked to him. he sounded a lot like the sean spicer that we used to know back in the day at the rnc and the nrcc and all of the, the alphabet soup of republican groups he used to work for. you know, i don t know. relieved? he sounded okay. this is all, you know all consumed with this. i mean, we re in breaking coverage about the, his professional life and the changes in his life, but he didn t sound upset to me, and i can tell you that i know that our colleagues have spoken to sources who have spoken to him and said he had been upset. who else may be upset? brian stelter has information on that. what can you tell us, brian? worth noting spicer not the only trump world spokesperson to resign in the past 24 hours. so much news lately, buried a little. mark kerala, spokesman for trump s outside legal team resigned last night. happy said really anything about this yet. he was close to mark castowitz. i m not saying the two are connected but more signs of dysfunction. you know, look, he wasn t mocked on snl the way spicer was mocked by melissa mccarthy, wasn t high profile but another example of this dysfunction. and brian, do you have information about steve bannon and reince priebus sort of where they stand on how this is all shaking out? and i think we should make the point i think gloria and dana have as well, that according to multiple sources priebus and bannon were very concerned about the idea anthony scaramucci was coming in, taking a big role in the white house nap they fought this decision and ultimately the president went ahead and did it. brian stelter, thank you so much. so sean spicer, of course, out as white house press secretary. more on that in a moment and sneak in a quick break here and also spicer s deputy sarah huckabee sanders what we re looking at live. she is going to be briefing the press here shortly. we are watching for when she comes out. stay with us. we ll be right back. 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oh, sorry, most broadcast and sports channels aren t included. and you can only stream on two devices at once. this is fun, we re having fun. yeah, we are. no, you re not jimmy. don t let directv now limit your entertainment. xfinity gives you more to stream to more screens. all right. a busy day here with breaking news. keeping our eye on the like pictures on the right of your screen. the briefing room at the white house we we are awaiting an on-camera press briefing. been same time since we ve seen that and deputy press secretary sarah huckabee sanders will brief the case as sean spicer resigned. with me to talk more about that, dana bash, gloria borger, brian stelter and chris cillizza from new york as well. this is so much chaos. what does this say, chris, about what is going on at the white house? i mean, chaos in ways is normal for this white house. this is more chaos than usual, but not as though this has been, know, a smooth process over these six months. in some ways this is indicative of the six months and one day of donald trump s presidency. unexpected moves causing chaos. i think if you step back from sean, who had been diminished significantly in terms of a public figure over e the past months anyway, step back, what does it say? in terms of sean, in terms of scaramucci coming in, something sean wasn t in favor of our reince priebus or the staff wasn t in favor. something we ve known all along from his professional and now his political career. donald trump when chips are down it s family, family, family. there s a shrinking of already quite small usually inner circle pap . a shrinking of that to family and friends. who is scaramucci, a friend of the family and friends with trump. is this someone family members, ivanka and jared, the opinion that won out bringing scaramucci in? jeff zeleny reports that jared and ivanka supported the idea, that steve bannon was fiercely opposed to this idea. and why? why? well, you know, i think that, you mow, there is a school of thought, which is that scaramucci is just about donald trump. and not about an agenda that that is larger than donald trump, which steve bannon clearly steve bannon clearly wants to push. but this will affect i don t think we can underscore this enough. this will affect everything in the white house right now. reince priebus has expressed his support as dana points out, to scaramucci, but was never a huge supporter of his. the president is a huge supporter. i will tell you one other thing. this is a president who demands 100% ultimate loyalty. i believe sean spicer gave him that. at some personal cost to himself. considerable personal cost. but can i finish? but he did not, you know, give it in return. and you can go down a list of people from chris christie to rudy giuliani, to sean spicer that this is a president who will cut you off aside from family, as you point out, who will cut you off if he feels that he has to do it. and brian stelter i know you have you have thoughts on this. i think it s notable dana was able to speak with spicer now out there tweeting as well saying he ll continue his service through august. so not leaving today. today is not his final day at least according to his twitter account and being very positive saying an honor and privilege to serve president trump in this amazing country. we know he ll be on sean hannity, the show later today. these are indications that sean spice sir not trying to burn the bridge on the way out. even though there are reports he was upset this morning. this happened quickly this morning. he seems to be signaling that he s going to try to speak positively about the president and meanwhile, we don t know who the new press secretary will be. does sarah huckabee sanders want the job? indication she does not. an open question about who s going to be sitting at the podium in the future. we know sarah will be in a few minutes but not in the future. we don t know. dana bash, final thoughts to you? gloria hit on something important. beyond who s at the podium and beyond the specific players and their names, it s what they stand for and what this means for the trump presidency six months in. and how much he has learned about himself and what he need to do to be himself, and not, again, sort of put himself in the structure of traditional washington, and for him, that means bring people in who know him well who support him. i m not is it a shift not saying d just trying to explain it. is that what it is? let donald be donald mentality? he wants people in his comfort zone, who will go on tv and be killers apparently the word he s used behind the scenes about anthony scaramucci and also, something just said this to me earlier. it s important i think. that the bannon and s the bannon wing or reince wing are trying to push donald trump into, you know, kind of parts of the republican party or ideology and what anthony scaramucci brings is somebody who just pushes donald trump. thank you to all of you. we are, of course, moments away from the white house briefing. this is the first on-camera since the surprising resignation a sport time ago. the first on-camera not just since then but in a long time. not just since sean spicer resigned. jake tapper picks up our special coverage, right after this. cases chronic flatulence. no sooooo gassy girl. so gassy. if you re boyz ii men, you make anything sound good. it s what you do. if you want to save 15% percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it s what you do. next! next! 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reporter: it was a brief phone call, and the gist is what i wanted to know, which i think is what everybody wants to know is, why now? after problem after problem after problem, slight embarrassment, you know, being sent out to do things that, you know, any other press secretary would be uncomfortable with, why now? why this? and his answer was, he wanted to give a clean slate, that was his term, clean slate to the president and to the new team. he said that the president did ask him to stay, but that he, sean, said that given the situation, he thought it was better for the white house and it was also better for sean, personally, to leave now. but what was the issue with the scaramucci hiring? he didn t he was going to have to report to scaramucci? what exactly was the issue? we didn t get into that that. it was a very brief conversation but i can answer that based on other people who have talked to machine and are familiar with the situation that, yes, not only would he have to report to scaramucci, he didn t think that scaramucci would be doing the job would be able to do the job of a traditional communications director, strategize, vis-a-vis washington, outside groups, the things that you need to do and sean would end up doing that job and also the spokesperson job and he thought i m going to end up doing two jobs and he was not very happy. that s the answer. my sense is that this kind of gave him an out and maybe one that he didn t realize that he was looking for, but it presented itself to him, and he took it. sean spicer did recently tweet a special message. let s put that up if we can. it s been an honor and privilege to serve potus and this amazing country. i will continue my service through august. so that is the message from sean spicer via twitter. what exactly do we know, gloria, about anthony scaramucci when it comes to communications, running a communications department? obviously, the president thinks he s good on tv, and certainly he s eloquent and telegeneralic but that s not the same thing as knowing how to manage a communications department for the most important government in the world. and i was talking to somebody who s close to the president, and his fear is that while scaramucci is, as dana uses the word, killer, right, and that s a favorite word of the president s, while he his agenda is president trump, it s not an ideological agenda, it s not a political agenda. his agenda is defending donald trump. this person said to me that his fear is that it will not work, because you have to have broader expertise in terms of communication skills in this job, and that s not that s not his skill set. this person also said to me, look, this was a slap in the face to sean, but there was a sense on the part of the president, you know, this was the president s decision, another source said to me, but this source said, look, scaramucci had been promised a lot of jobs. export/import banking, i think. and they were going to move him into the white house as some kind of special adviser and reince priebus was not in favor of that. there s friction there, although as dana s reported today that reince priebus says he s 100% behind this. so that there s a feeling on the part of the president at least, that he had been promised all these jobs and that he hadn t gotten them and this was a guy who was 100% loyal to him with no other agenda other than defending donald trump and that trump wanted him in and jared kushner wanted him in and according to jeff zeleny, that reince priebus and steve bannon were usually opposed to this. so this is going to have repercussions inside the white house. i want to bring in ani anita dunn. she was a white house communications director for president obama several years ago. anita, let s posit for the sake of argument that anthony scaramucci is a great talking head and a great television representative for president trump. president trump thinks so, and that s really all that matters when it comes to hiring and firing in that gig. but you re a former communications director. what else do you have to know to do that job? well, jake, there s no doubt this is a not a traditional choice or a traditional background for white house communications director. on the other hand, there is nothing traditional about either this president or the way this administration functions. but here is what i would be concerned about if i were a republican on capitol hill, especially having watched what happened with the health care bill. which is, a huge part of the white house communications office s job is really to market and to get out the president s agenda and to create a communications message around that agenda that helps things get passed on the hill, helps communicate to the american people why those policies are right, and this is not what his background is, you know, if the job is defending president trump, that is one job. but actually moving forward an agenda for this administration, given the challenges they ve had in the first six amongmonths of getting any kind of coherent message out about what they want to do to keep those promises the president made during the campaign, it s a big job. it s a big government. communications across all the agencies, across the independent agencies, all of that, at the end of the day, falls on the white house communications director s office, and on that desk, and you know what? it s more than just going on tv. and john king, i mean, the contrast between how involved president obama was in passing obamacare and how involved president trump was in terms of reepeeling a repealing and replacing obamacare is day and night and you didn t see president trump going to swing districts, explaining in detailed speeches what the bill what the action would do for voters, personally lobbying individual members of the congress with knowledge of the policy, but that s not necessarily sean spicer s fault. no, it s not. the president has constantly undermined a lot of people he works with and who work for him by saying things contrary to what they have said. sean spicer lays out an explanation or strategy on day a and by breakfast the next day,
a spokesman for manafort says it s 100% false to suggest this meeting including any discussion of contributions to the trump campaign or the republican party. when donald trump jr. talked about the meeting he called it nothing and manafort said he was on his phone most of the time. the whole contact took how long? 20 minutes or so. 20 minutes. and jared left after five or ten. yes. like she said and paul manafort. on his phone. the whole time. like i said it was pretty apparent this is not what we were in there talking about. it does appear manafort was on his phone to take notes. nbc s reporting says manafort ses notes typed on a smartphone described by one source as cryptic were turned over to the house and senate think you know. i m not answering about any particular eggs vexes. i can t talk about that in a classified setting. i want to be careful in open setting. i carefully chose the words. like look i ve seen the tweet about tapes lordy, i hope there are tapes. jeremy they re making the case this guy who chooses not to comment publicly in front of congress is somehow reckless and a leaker. james comey is cautious, he is a professional, a career law enforcement z officer and a career prosecutor. he of course served as assistant u.s. attorney. the idea he is unreliable i don t think goes far with, particularly with bob mueller. after all of course comey replaced mueller as fbi director. they re sort of similar on the outlook op law enforcement. just coming back to the original point about undermining the argument about obstruction. the statute says who ever by threat or by force tries to impede a federal investigation. it doesn t say who ever in brackets unless you re the president, no president is above the law. and of course the firing was not the only basis upon which someone might investigate the president for obstruction. he osk took jim comey to the oval office and said please drop the investigation. is wasn t just the firing. there are multiple avenues to pursue with respect to obstruction of justice. michael they are pursuing multiple avenues. we know your last by line reported that mueller s team is interested in talking to senior trump administration officials. we have seen reporting that mueller is working with the irs. we learned last night that he is working possibly with new york attorney general eric snyderman to have state charges brought that can t be pardoned by the president. in your opinion what thread of the investigation are they pulling the hardest on? i think what we are seeing is a very aggressive prosecutor, especially on the manafort front. we saw him last month execute a search warrant to go into manafort s house. that is a very that s a big move for a prosecutor to take, especially at a time when manafort said or was trying to say publicly that he was cooperating. so i think what we are seeing a a lot of a lot of things here. we ll see a lot more of this in the weeks and months to come. the president is going to have a lot of stories come out about subpoenas, about interviews, about people going before the grand jury, and there is just going to be a lot of these as we go forward. the interesting thing will be when does new information that moves our understanding of what happened changed? it s one thing learning about a subpoena or someone being interviewed. it s another thing when we learn of actually new information about things that we didn t know. and sometimes we re able to do that. and sometimes we re able to break through and provide new context to things sometimes we don t. but i think this will go on some sometime now. jill, to michael s point, the pressure that has been brought to bear on paul manafort, his business associates, his family, there is some sense that the the investigation is leaning on him heavily. and there are others who think that the pardoning of former sheriff joe arpaio might have been a sending a message to paul manaforts or michael flynns saying hold tight i ll pardon you if it goes wrong. what do you make of the fact that possibly robert mueller is working with new york attorney general eric schneiderman. i think it is a message. i was appalled by the pardon in and of itself. you are forgiving a contempt of court which cannot enforce judicial proceedings if it can t hold a witness in contempt or a defendant in contempt. and it was for violating civil rights. it s bad in and of itself. but i heard it definitely as a message, hang tight, don t worry. you may lose the fifth amendment privilege because i ll pardon your original crime. but i ll also pardon you if you refuse to testify. i think it was a very bad thing. i think it is a very good thing that the state attorney general is now involved because that is something the president cannot obstruct. and he cannot impede it because he has no power against the state. so that s that s a good thing. and i think that they should work together zbloolgts jeremy that s really the first salvo of that sort. because there are a number of states that can claim some sort of harm if this is still having to do with the russians attempting to intervene in american elections. there are a number of states targeted by the russians according to reports we ve seen. so robert mueller has a lot of ammunition if he wants to start partnering with state attorneys general in guaranteeing donald trump either can t fire him out of this thing or can t pardon his way out of it. this is clearly as my knowledge said a sprawling, ride-ranging and aggressive investigation by the special counsel. he has built a strong team, a large team, experienced team. and it appears from everything we are learning that working in a careful hurry to figure out whether or not charges ought to be brought and figure out what to report to congress which with will ultimately hold the impeachment decision in its hands. michael is to too wide ranging? you know the president did warn that robert mueller will cross a line if he starts getting involved in donald trump s financial affairs. well robert mueller is getting in manafort s financial affairs. one assumes about the moscow hotel in donald trump s moscow affairs. there s been questions in the past about special prosecutors before. what we had before is the prosecutors were appointed for an indefinitely period of time and they had the abilitying to on and investigate whatever he wanted. but based on the pliks what s going on in the country mueller could investigate a lot of things for a lot of times and there would be few things to stop him. at the end of the day the acting the deputy attorney general acting as the attorney general because the attorney general rekuzed himself from this stuff will have the say in whether there are prosecutions to be made here. but mueller has the power to look at different things. and what usually happens with the special counsels is that they look at things and find things because they dig through a lot of things. they get a lot of information back. they subpoena things. talk to people compel them to talk to them. when you are doing that you re going to kick stuff up. it happens. let me ask you then because you made the point that we have to wait until the next thing that shows that we made progress in this investigation. what are you look for? is there some direction in particular that you are looking for to happen next. no we re just looking for new information that gives us a better understanding of things that happened before and a better understanding of you know database, look there was a meeting that happened in june of 2016 between the trump campaign and the russians. we only know so much about it. we only know the emails we had about it and the differing explanations we got from some of the folks there. you know if we were to learn what other folks in the meeting, the russians had to say about that or what you know direction they got, or or anything like that that expands our understanding of things. we look for things that spa expand and can provide larger context to the facts. that s what we are searching for. jill back we we first learned of the meeting you said while we only find out what other people leak or what people publicly put out as donald trump jr. did with the emails robert mueller has more power to get more information than what we are learning today about things found on paul manafort s phone indicate that he is using some of that power. absolutely. and i want to point out in terms of the timing that we were appointed in may for the watergate case. and we returned indictments in march of the following year. so that s about nine months. and we were looking at a very narrow set of allegations. i think here the mandate that mr. mueller has is quite broad and can allow him to look at a lot of other areas. so it could take way more than the nine months before you would ever have any kind of an indictment. and also, i want to point out he has the power to give a report to the congress which request be as we did, a road map to impeachment. it was decided by our special prosecutor at the time that we should not diet, that impeachment was the correct procedure for the sitting president. since then can be ken starr to a took years and went from a real estate deal to a blue dress, so showing how broad the investigation can be, he has ha memo that says it would be perfectly proper to diet a sitting president. so mr. mueller might be able to do that. but he also has the option of rurpg a report to the congress to show how the case could be built for impeachment. jeremy last word to you, what are you looking for next? well when michael cohen the trump organization main lawyer and the one who was the architect to of the deal to billed the trump tower testifies in the house committee you ll sigh information come out about the financial ties. as we follow the money i m looking at that testimony. jeremy, michael and jill thank you all three of you for joining me. with congress set to return to washington next week how could the latest developments in the investigation affect this white house? our political panel reacts when the 11th hour continues. hey you ve gotta see this. c mon. deepening the rift with russia. the administration is not expelling any russian diplomatic personnel from the united states. nor did it tough the staff at russia s mane embassy in waekt. of the robert costa national political reporter. vivian salama, incoming nbc news national reporter. our white house reporter jonathan la mere. vivian, let me start with you. in august earlier this month, the president said this about the russian decision to cut that the 755 u.s. staff members in russia. let s listen. i want to thank him because we re trying to cut down on payroll. as far as i m concerned i m very thankful that he let go of a large number of people, because now we have a smaller payroll. there is no real reason for enemy to go back. vivian there is a journalistic term for that. i think it might be weird. that was just a strange response that the president had to another country ordering 755 staffer foss not do their work. the president has always seemed to do this tap dance with russia. whether with the russian investigation, whether it has to do with the diplomatic relation was russia. he has never outwardly accused russia he has never outwardly embraced the intelligence community in the country that feel confident that russia was behind the hacking of the u.s. election in 2016. he says that it was probably maybe russia but also probably other players involved. and so the diplomatic rift that we ve seen kind of manifesting itself over the course of the administration s time in office has been fascinating but it hasn t coming from the white house. a lot of it is coming from the other members of the administration, whether the state department, u.n., ambassador nikki haley. they re the one who is have gone after russia tried to take the tougher stance while the president distances himself not touching the hacking thing except for shortly after the first meeting with president putin of russia. and so it s really fascinating to see all of this going on with the back drop of the investigation taking place where the president kind of gives a little bit of leeway to russia, not wanting to get involved but still insisting he had no collusion. a lot of people concerned about this. they say if he didn t collude if nobody in the campaign cluds if he is absolutely confident about it why doesn t he just come out and take a tougher stance. that s what we saw with the clip is that he doesn t quite do that. he falls short of that. and that raises so many questions where a lot of people say, well is there something he is trying to hide? what is the issue with the president not taking the strong stance. that is the question. jonathan, let me ask you, to vivian s point he is getting advice from somebody he had to do something, right there had to be a response to the 75 a american staffers. this is a small portion of that. it s a very measured small response to it. but to whose pressure did he bough on this? is it rex tillerson, the the state department what s going on. certainly the state has suggested that some sort of response was necessary. but the president, to vivian s point, has never gone there. i was part of the small group of reporters traveled with the president when he made the comments. and later the sarah huckabee sanders suggested he was kidding. no one thought that. it was odd. what we know about the president is this when he feels pressure he goes the other which. he does not like the idea of being managed. we see that in the white house now with the new chief of staff all the story lines the west wing staff in line but yet seems to have no control over the president himself. in fact, in recent weeks it feels like the twitter feed from the president has become more lively, as if to prove a point that he can t be controlled by the chief of staff. and when it comes to russia in particular he seems to lash out particularly when there are developments in the investigation that seem to come close to home. robert to vivian s point that he is getting guidance from someone and to jonathan s point that he chaffs at the control. you had a by line on the story pukd in the new york times washington post i m sorry unless something changed since last i read it where it says donald trump resists being handled says roger stone, a former trump adviser and long-term confidante, no one tells him who to see what he can say. general kelly is trying to treat the mushroom keeping him in the dark and feeding him expletive. we re seeing the generals around the president, general mattis at the pentagon, trying and of course general mcmaster, foreign policy adviser. that includes russia. they adopt more of the traditional foreign policy view in the republican party and even in the democratic party when it comes to the hawkish position towards russia. you see in this administration a balancing of that traditional hawkish view with the instincts of the president and perhaps the secretary of state tillerson when it comes to having a bit of a softer touch with russia. all of these forces are combined in how the united states is responding to these types of questions. and vivian, to that point, this business of russia and sanctions on russia, and taking a harder line on russia, is the one area that the president splits so clearly with his own party on. when it came to the sanctions against russia and iran and north korea in congress, there was a veto proof majority. this is not even an area that the president had the smallest bit of influence amongst republicans and certainly zero amongst democrats. this is not a winnable road he travels. that s right. actually when the sanctions took place, he actually came out very strongly against them in a statement put out that day that was really surprising where he supported the actual notion of sanctions, the legislation itself but said that the bill was problematic. he was did he cited a lot of issue was it particularly the effort by congress to essentially clamp down on the executive power. he said that it gave them too much power and took away his power to have any authority on the issue of sanctions in particular. this raised a lot of concern because it was a three-part package with north korea and russia and iran. in particular the russia sanctions caused a lot of issues with regard to the language of the bill et cetera. so the president came out strongly behind closed doors where he was pushing back hard on congress trying to limit the ability to pass this or actually just slowing the process down. it was interesting to see after it was passed, signed into law, in statement by the president where he said, i m still not happy with it. it s not a good bill but we have to go forward with it for the sake of national security and the best interests of the country. he is not making it a secret that he takes issue with in, even after it s law. at last, jonathan, the president has work to do. he has a harvey aid bill that has to get passed. we re seeing reporting tonight that the initial effort is going to be about $5.5 billion but could be in the tens of billions of dollars. there is a resolution to get done by the enof december are else there is a government shutdown and then the tax cuts. he has work to do with congress and that s not been successful so far. not at all. he himself has suggested he might be in favor of a government shutdown if it means freeing up funding for the border wall which is the signature campaign fromz from his run for presidency. but this is a president repeatedly has had a hard time marshaling his own party. which includes both houses of congress to enact his legislation. his leadership during the health care bill was spotty at best. at times it seemed he was getting in the way of the republicans trying to pass the bill. sending mixed messages in meetings or on twitter. eventually it was down in defeat. what has that led him to do? turn on members of his party even further. calling them out. suggesting perhaps that senate majority leader mcconnell should resign if he can t get health care done. to this point, as much as they outsourced the health care plan it seems they may be going that way with tax cuts as well. sounds clearly. and we may find a similar lack of executive leadership to get things done. bob costa, in fact the president in unveiling the not really tax cut plan, the president said the word the name congress many times. he kept on talking about how he doesn t want to be disappointed by congress. maybe congress will come around on this thing. but in the efforts to get this border wall done, the harvey aid may come in the way of that. because the border wall the president says is $10 billion. other estimates republican estimates are 15 to 25 billion. i ve seen estimates upward of that. that harvey aid may eat that up. and that may actually be a blessing in disguise for republicans because the sources i was talking to today on capitol hill. they say the harvey aid package is likely to be bipartisan in support and also likely puts the border wall fight on the shelf until the next fisk alyear fight budget fight later in year in december. it s easier to pass the budget by just having the harvey aid package be the sole main addition rather than the border funding. instead of having wall funding i think we can expect border security funding. something with democratic votes that s not the concrete of the wall. robert costa, vivian, jonathan, thanks to all three of you. coming up is there a rift between the president and the top man at the pentagon? when you don t get enough sleep, and your body aches, you re not yourself. tylenol® pm relieves pain and helps you fall fast asleep and stay asleep. we give you a better night, you re a better you all day. and for your daytime pain relief, try tylenol® extra strength. you re a great example for our country right now. it s got some problems. you know it and i know it. it s got problems that we don t have in the military. and you just hold the line, my fine young solars sailors with airmen, marines. you just hold the line until our country gets back to understanding and respecting each or showing it, being friendly to one another, that americans owe to one another. we re so doing gone lucky to be americans. welcome back to the 11th hour rgs. defense secretary james mattis took steps today to squash reports of a growing rift between himself and president trump. in an impromptu q and a session with reporters at the pentagon mattis called the idea that the speech you saw to soldiers you had showed disagreement to the president ppt if i say six and the. says half a dozen they re going to say i disagree with him. . the executive editor of defense 1 and msnbc national analyst among the reporters with secretary mattis today. kevin great to see you. this has definitely piled on to a list of things that people are talking about in terms of some of the closest people around president trump breaking with him. we of course know about the departures from the white house, gary cohen, the senior economic adviser made comments not agreeing about how president trump dealt with charlottesville. then we saw rex tillerson say something on fox news. then this tillerson video was shone. but it wasn t the only thing made people think that mattis and trump are not on the same page. you believe he is trying to fix that. right. so the a couple of things happening here. mattis he walked into the press bull pen today not the briefing room. which he has done throughout the year. it s been his thing. we might get some word he was there. he wasn t specifically walking down to make some grand statement about what s going on with him and trump but it was the first thing he was asked. that was what we spoke about. the a few things happened in the last week. one was the video you showed which was a pep talk. a walk up to the troops and gave them the mattis speech he does. a lot of us heard that many times. in that he references we re divided back home and hope we can get back together. a lot of people took that and ran with it, probably too much. he hadn t had a chance to talk about it today. exactly what he said. he comes back to say, look he actually told us it s in the transcript, that he was thinking of trump s own speech. he had been up early that morning to watch the afghanistan speech where if you remember trump tries to bring unity to the country. he said fs thinking of the president s own words and people saying i was come out against the president. let s give him that. yeah. we also had an instance i m going to play this to you when reporters were asking him about the president s tweet on north korea that where he said the time for talking is over. here is what general mattis said. the president this morning tweeted that talking isn t the answer. are we out of diplomatic solutions for north korea. no. we re never out of diplomatic solutions. so that was wednesday. that was just after the president tweeted that the time for talking is over. one could say that was bad cop good cop but that was within hours direct contradictsen what the president said. and here is how mattis explained it. he said ifd asked about dploltic solutions i was not asked about the tweet. we said did you see the tweet and he said i did what you did you think. he said look the president tweeted we shouldn t be talking to north korea. i agree with the president. we aren t talking to the north korea. there are other diplomatic actions. at the same time nikki haley was in the u.n. the security council was meeting. there are economic means. that is on the table. he said i agree with the president but on the tweet i wasn t asked about that. a people in the press spun it the wrong way again. all of led to the bigger question, is he at odds with president trump and should he do something about it? i asked him directly about this idea of every time trump does something that half the country disagrees they all said the generals should resign. i know the answer i ve heard it from mattis i asked him to say it on the record. he laid out his own reasons why he serves and is there. it s an answer you can imagine. he is a solar s solar he was asked to serve the president. that s what he does. people are way ahead of themselves if they think mattis, kelly or mcmaster are going to resign in protest over anything. it would have to be a real dereliction of duty kind of thing. not just carrying out trump s orders or legal policies. all right kevin we will watch closely. interesting story that we continue to follow. kevin thank you. hold that line. coming up from harvey to charlottesville and the president picking fights on capitol hill. august 2017 was anything but quiet. we look back at 31 wild days in trump s america. headlines this just this month and his attacks on republican leaders on capitol hill. senior white house staff departures and the first solar eclipse to cross the u.s. in 99 years. and now the president faced the first major natural disaster as hurricane harvey struck texas as a category 4 hurricane. joining me now the white house reporter for politico and our reporter for bloomberg whose tweets today remiepded us just how much happened during the past month. i ve got them on the screen. there are more than 12 things. 12 things but they re actually a combination of different things. which of these many events have happened in the last 31 days do you think are the most impactful, the most important? other than that ali a pretty slow news month right. i would say there are a lot of things president trump says and does that i believe in the long haul get washed away in the tied of history. but there are a couple of things this month that happened that will never be forgotten. the top of which i would say is charlottesville, the neonazi violence and the president s ee give indication of this with the counterprotesters. this gets to the heart and soul of this country. is this a country giving quarter tots neonazis who want a ethnic o state or is it going to stand for american values the constitution protection pretrial and return dateless of background. i certainly think the president s reaction to this, the lack of unequivocal clear condemns opened the pan doora box of violence. that s point number one. the second thing is very important down down the road is the president attack on republican senators start wg mitch mcconnell and four others. he needs these people to get any legitimating agenda through that s standing the test of time and that can t easily be reversed by his successor. he risks potentially being a legislative lame duck early in the presidency. annie let me ask you yesterday mike allen and his folks put together a list like the last one we looked at. and then mike had the thesis had the president three weeks ago done something differently in charlottesville, we d be talking about a president who did the right thing there and then when hurricane harvey comes along he gets a second chance to do that. and it actually could have changed the way we ve looked at the entire presidency. do you buy into that? sure, but trump had four i think opportunities to correct himself on charmtsville. he didn t want to. that theory of the case is assuming a completely different president than who donald trump is. if we do that there is a lot of possibilities. let me ask you one other question. what we have seen since charlottesville but before harvey was the departure of steve bannon. a lot of people said when steve bannon is dewon we ll see what his indistinct really are on his own. you know, i really do wonder we spent a lot of time writing about the factions in the west wing and the staffers who is influencing the president. i do wonder how much how the stories will age when more and more we re seeing the departure of many west wing aides. and not a lot of changes in the president s behavior that at the end of the day, a lot of this is trump being trump. that the influence of the aides at some level could be overstated. annie and sahil stay with using. donald trump pledges $1 million to harvey relief. happy to tell you that he is would like to join in the efforts to a lot of the people that we ve seen across this country do, and he s pledging $1 million of personal money to the fund. went on to say the president would take suggestions from reporters of groups and organizes that have been effective in providing aid for those affected by the storm. this is not something the president has a great reputation with. he doesn t pledge all that much in terms of charitable organizations and that that he has pledged he often has he has had in some instances a tendency to not follow through. there will be people who look to make sure he follows through on this. it s a pretty important pledge. it s a nobl gesture. it encourages people to help out. like i said, there will be people who want to be sure he does it. if so, good on him. it s been sort of a no win week for the president when it comes to how he dealt with harvey, he went earlier than some said he should have, he went to places they said he shouldn t have, they criticized him for the hat he was wearing, with not sort of empaw thighsing with folks. tonight we saw advice president pence go to rock port and did things more like what we re used to seeing the president do. he had his gloves on. he had his jacket off. he was hugging survivors. what do you make of all the criticism. is it a temperature pivot in a tea pot. i think no win is overstating it. he avoided a george w. bush katrina so far. this is not going to go down in history as a giant crisis of his presidency or a giant flub. he messed up the optics by not meeting any victims of the storm and he s going back saturday. we ll see if he has a compassionist empathetic moment. pence today clearing brush showed more what we expect politicians to do in these situations. he criticized his hat. he hasn t messed up a critical recovery so far, and i think that for the most part, aside from criticism of the margins, this isn t going to be a another crisis of august like we were talking about in the previous segment. thanks so much. we appreciate your analysis tonight. coming up a time of crisis in texas has brought out the worst in some people. it s also brought out the best in so many more. this window will not last for long. lendingtree is the only place to compare up to 5 real refinance offers against your current mortgage - for free. are you sure you have the best rate? take 3 minutes and find out right now. because at lendingtree, when banks compete, you win. warning that price gouging will not be tolerated. is similar warning issued by the texas attorney general. i spent my career covering the economy, lauding the the capitalist system is not at its best when it provides the chance to profit from a catastrophe. it is morealy wrong to profit off the suffering of others in times of disaster. it s also illegal. companies big and small have apologized this week as images appeared online for evidence of price gouging for things like gasoline and water. bear business ends at the door of disaster. in the time of crisis, you set aside the potential of profit but the rest of us share our wealth with those who have lost theirs. that stands in stark contrast to people like this, the remarkable heroism of those who rush to the aid of victims. to the donations that americans make from the privacy of their phones to the striking images of people waiting in line not for aid but to volunteer their time, their valuable time in the service of their fellow citizens, that s what you re looking at here. we have seen so many images this week of the best of america and what can be accomplished when people put aside differences and work together. it will be a long road for the recovery efforts in texas, but these volunteers, these heros are proofing that in the end, our better angels will prevail. that is our broadcast for tonight. thank you for being with us. i ll see you back here tomorrow morning at 11:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. eastern time. good night from nbc headquarters in new york.
person is going to be that we re going to run against. i look forward to it. i look forward to it. i really do. together with your help, your voice, your vote, we can achieve more than anybody. again, i really believe. i m not saying this as bragadocious. the tax bill when we got the individual mandate but we got one of the biggest fields in the world. they ve been trying to approve it for 40 years. that was a part of the tax bill. there s nothing beyond our reach. nothing. we need republicans put in office. we need senate. i think we re going to do pretty well with the senate. the numbers are looking pretty good. did you see the numbers from about two months ago? you see numbers now, it s like from a different world. people are seeing what we re doing. we re going to do things that nobody has been able to do. it s very funny. every time i go out to speak, we have these massive crowds. thousands were turned away. we let thousands in. she wrote an article about me. i went to the wharton school of finance. then you have to read how we re like is trump a good speaker. she s talking about he uses a language that, you know. remember i used to tell you how easy it is to be presidential. you d all be out of here now. you d be so bored. i m very presidential. ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being here tonight. rick saccone will be great, great congressman. he will help me very much. he s a fine man and a wonderful wife. i just want to tell you on behalf of the united states of america that we appreciate your service. we appreciate your service. to all of the military out there, we respect you very much. thank you. thank you. then you go, god bless you and god bless the united states of america. thank you very much. see, that s easy. that s much easier than doing what i have to do. this is much more effective. this got us elected. if i came like a stiff, you guys wouldn t be here tonight. she s a nice woman. i like her. she doesn t like me much. she s writing like i m some kind of a neanderthal. i m really smart. they all talk about how they re telling us they said we couldn t get elected. i say we because you came from areas. some you have never voted before but you love the country. great congressman from tennessee. they vote early. the voting gets started. he was asked a speech i was making in pennsylvania, believe it or not. he was there because one of his friends and it was lou. i didn t know him. they had early voting in tennessee. he said, you know, mr. president and at that time i wasn t president but he called me that because he saw it was happening. he said in tennessee the early voting started. i d been doing this stuff for 32 years. i ve never seen anything like it in my life. those people are coming out of hills. they re coming out of valleys p th . they are coming out of everything you can come out of. these are people that love the country but they never saw anybody they wanted to vote for. now they ve got trump. trump-pence. they ve got all the stuff. usa. it has to be right. maybe it s just pure ideas. i love that guy. he said it s heart. we all have heart. i can only tell you if the rest of the country is like tennessee you re going to win this election and it s going to be easy. we got 306 to 223. remember they said, 270. remember the famous 270. he cannot win the election because he cannot get above 270. we needed 270. in fact, they couldn t get me to 270. we had 269. he cannot get remember, to to 270. we didn t. we got to 306. we got it. somebody said i ve been running for the senate six times. you ran for president. you won. what happened is pennsylvania. remember that night? if i lost ten points. there was no way you could lose. we were winning by thousands and thousands of votes. they refused to call pennsylvania. i wanted to win. i wanted to win with pennsylvania. it was so befitting bau inting y had spent ten times more in the state of pennsylvania than i did. i m sighing come on. go. one point. i win. we win easily. they wouldn t call it. then what happened? wisconsin came in. we won with wisconsin which hadn t been won in decades. we won with michigan and finally they were devastated. they were crying. she s crying. oh, my god. remember john king with the board. the red board is like red. that board was red meaning republican. popular vote you go to three or four states. i was like 19. i went to maine four times because i needed town one vote. that was going to be 269 to 270. what happened was an incredible. it was an incredible evening. one of the greatest nights in the history of television in terms of numbers of poem watching. we have done a job. let me give you the bad news. the bad news is they want to take it away from us. they re doing everything they can to take it away. that starts with the election coming up in a few months. we have to win it. we have to get out and we have to win. i love the school. i went to wharton. i love pennsylvania. how can i not love it, right? somebody else would show up here and honestly, rick, what would it be 50, 60 people in front. you wouldn t have this. you d have a little place. i ll really feel strongly about rick saccone. i know him. he s an incredible guy. number one, i don t know that this is important but to me it is. he s a very fine human being. he s a good person. he s really a good person. rick, come up here. he s a really good person. he s a good person. does that mean anything? he s a very he s a very competent person. he s a very hard worker. he knows things that many people don t know. he understands north korea may be better than anybody. i spoke to him about north korea. he was there for a long time. i spoke to him about north korea. i m telling you i learned things that all of these great generuis genuines geniuses did not tell me. we need the republicans. we immediate the vote. they will take away your tax cuts. they will take away your second amendment rights. they re going to take away in the military big military place. they ll take that away too. our military wads really depleted. i came tonight because this guy is special. remember this, the other opponent, his opponent is not voting for us. there s no way he s voting for us ever. ever. he could be nice to me. he is. there s no way he s ever voting for me. rick is going to vote for us all the time. all the time. i want to ask rick to say a few words and again, it s an honor to be with you. go out on tuesday and just vote like crazy. you got to get out there. the world is watching. i hate to put this pressure on your rick, they re all watching because i won this district like by 22 points. it s a lot. look at all those red hat, rick. look. look at all those. it s a lot of hats. we just had a poll. we re more popular now than election day. this guy should win easily. he s going to win easily. you got to know him. he s an extraordinary person. go out and vote on tuesday for rick saccone. go ahead. do we love our president here in western pennsylvania? i just is a couple of words. you already heard me speak earlier. i want to thank president trump. as i said before, president trump s in your corner, how can you lose? he s the best man to be in your corner. as any good businessman knows, you work on a deal but there comes a time to close the deal. this is the time to close the deal. we got two days left. are you going to help me on tuesday? let s close this deal. with that, we ll say good night. go out, vote for rick. he ll never, ever disappoint you. he s a winner. he s never going to disappoint you. vote with your hearts. vote with your brains. this is an extraordinary man. i m going to be home watching the returns and i hope that i have to make a call on tuesday night where i speak to you and young and i say great job, great race. the whole world remember that, they re all watching. we want to keep it going. we want to keep the agenda, the make america great going. you got to get them in. this is a very important race. very important. thank you all. god bless you. we love you all. thank you. president trump there wrapping up this campaign rally near pittsburgh for a special congressional election. one that is very, very tight between republican rick saccon and conor lamb. we did some time keeping. the president spoke about 1:10. he was on the stage there at the podium. we did mention he did mention rick saccone off the top. it was 25 minutes in when he spoke of the candidate. the reasons why he supported him and 1:10 before we saw rick saccone on stage with the president. a lot of the speech was touting his presidential win, the jobs report, economy, north korea as well. saying that we have to be very, very nice. basking or bashing the media, fake news as well. also hitting his former campaign rivals and even oprah winfrey. sharing his new 2020 slogan saying i can t say it s make america great again. let s keep america great. i want to bring in our panel. political reporter for politico. i appreciate you sticking around and listening to this. this is my question, was this about president trump or was this about rick saccone? let s start with you. it s not ma surprising if you look at past speeches that the president has given on behalf of candidates. he s talked about his own agenda, a little less about the candidate. i was keeping track of the amount of times he mentioned rick. it was about half a dozen times in that speech that lasted over an hour. fairly typical of the president. alex, what is rick thinking? is he thinking there standing going this is what the president needs to say to put me over the edge for a win. look, obviously he s probably happier than not that the president came. he needs the president to come here and sort of energize those voters that saccone needs. this is what trump rallies are like. you have seen this happen at past trump speeshs. obviously saccone is happier than not the president came in. we ll see in that translates into votes on tuesday. i want to bring in jeff bennett. you were listening as we were here. classic campaign mode trump that we saw there. i wasn t able to hear the question. i think i know where you re headed. i ll tell you what i found to be fairly striking about what we saw here. i heard you sort of tick through the greatest hits from the hour nar that the president spoke. i thought what was really particular is the way the president paved in his attacks on conor lamb in much the same way he did when he was in alabama campaigning initially for luther string. the president chose to not stick it to roy moore in the way he could have. here he says because conor lamb the democrat, because he s said things favorable to the president and also this race is neck and neck the president is saving his fire. he did make one tick that could be fairly effective in this district. he said conor is trying to present himself as a moderate but if he gets to washington, he won t be able to keep up the act. we ll have to see how many swing voters there are in this district who might have been watching the speech who would agree with the president when they turn out on tuesday. that s right. he did bring up the candidates instead of bringing up rick saccone. 25 minutes in he brings up lamb and then goes into saccone saying i like him. he s handsome. that may be a reflection of how close the race is now. polling is showing a tight race. he s trying to really drive that message home that lamb isn t what he s saying and he will support nancy pelosi. he would be independent in his party in congress. is there anything that stoo s out to you. we know this is pretty much familiar trump when it comes to these style rallies. anything in his message when it comes to tariffs he brought up in pennsylvania and not touting his own accomplishments? it was interesting he talked at one point towards the end of the speech about pennsylvania and how spornt that state is to him. one of the things to look for on tuesday should he fall short is this is going to be seen as major embarrassment for this president and this white house because trump is made pennsylvania such a key part of his political and electoral co-licoh coalition. it was a big deal that he made a big deal of it during the campaign and the state helped to really put him over the top. it s really going to be a big embarrassment for the president if conor lamb comes out on top. who will be the finger pointing there. you have the member of the gop who have bashed him to give him the safety net if he does lose saying expectations are not met or he loses, we told you so. who will the president be pointing to? that s a good question. seems like national republican strategist are putting the blame on rick saccone. it will be interesting to see if the president follows suit. conor has raised four times as much money as rick saccone in this case and they see that as major liability in terms of competing in television advertisements and things like that. we ll have to see who the president ends up blaming if he does end on losing on tuesday. looks like people are starting to blame rick. before i let you go in my last minute here, what will be the headlines on wednesday morning? well, either it s going to be republicans dodged a bullet in this race or it s going to be major black eye for the white house, for this president and the gop as they head towards november. it s really important race and no one knows exactly who s going to win at this point. polls are very tight. very quickly in the short seconds i have. well we re going to have to wait and see. people are looking at this race for national message. are democrats going to be energized going into the midterms. is that going to work? i think that s what you ll see the day after. all right. we ll see what happens in next couple of days before then. we shall all see together. we thank you for being with me for this specific coverage. back to our regular programming on msnbc. we send it now to hardball. have a great evening. hold on dad. liberty did what? yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. my dad says our insurance doesn t have that. don t worry - i know what a lug wrench is, dad. is this a lug wrench? 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your thoughts about the exposure as you lawyers say, exposure of mr. trump here? well, exposure seems to be a word bandied about a little bit when it comes to daniels as a porn star. to your question, chris, anybody remember john edwards? he got indicted for doing exactly the same thing, taking campaign contributions and money to basically silence his mistress so as to influence the outcome of the presidential election that he was running for. so is that we ve got going on here? but that was a hung jury. that wasn t resolved in court. that jury couldn t decide. bunny said she just liked john edwards and did it as a favor and didn t see it as a campaign contribution. that s her point of view the. here s the thing. it begs the question. michael cohen said he took out a home equity line of credit to put it in an llc account to be able to pay off stormy daniels. why? why is he randomly paying $130,000? now you have a problem. people like the fec is interested. the house judiciary committee sent a letter to michael cohen and two other gentlemen saying you might want to explain why you gave this money and by the way, there might be tax issues because the tax treatment on this money would trigger other violations of federal law. so michael cohen s now opening a huge pandora s box because he keeps on opening his mouth and keeps on trying to give excuses that don t have legal viability in terms of being credible. just to make an argument against it, is every aid you give, every contribution to a candidate a campaign contribution? you can say i drive his kids to school or anything that helps him. i helped his wife carry account groceries home. is anything a contribution to the well-being of a candidate a campaign contribution? here s the thing. it has to be a reported in kind contribution. there s a certain valuation amount that gets triggered. $130,000 pursuant to a settlement agreement that michael cohen, the llc and this dennis son guy who we know is donald trump is implicated we know this is hush money paid to stormy daniels to keep her quiet. now we re going to go back to the litigation. we re going to figure out where had goes. here s the problem for michael cohen and for donald trump and here s the problem for the trump campaign and here is why mueller might be interested. through the course of the discovery process, you re going to have depositions. you re going to having discovery requests and bank statements turned over and you know that mueller is the key guy to follow the money. so here s the essential question, chris. where did that money come from? did it really come from a heloc? if it was think all of rules of professional conduct michael cohen is in violation of in his home state of new york where he is a licensed attorney. the attorney general of new york might be interested. this president can t pardon his own behavior in new york state. thank you. you followed it all the way. thanks so much, katie phang for being our expert. up next, president trump s go it alone approach. he s willing to rely completely on his own instincts even if it puts him at odds with everyone around him his experts, secretary of state, national security adviser. they were all ignored yesterday when he went to town on this north korean gambit. you re watching hardball. it s time for the sleep number spring clearance event on the only bed that adjusts on both sides to your ideal comfort, your sleep number setting. does your bed do that? it s the last chance for clearance savings up to $600 on our most popular beds. ends soon. visit sleepnumber.com for a store near you. but having his parents over was enlightening. you don t like my lasagna? 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[ both laugh ] here, blow. blow on it. you see it, right? is there a draft in here? i m telling you, it s so easy to get home insurance on progressive.com. progressive can t save you from becoming your parents. but we can save you money when you bundle home and auto. problems. trump put his go it alone strategy on display this week first with his move to impose new steel and aluminum tariffs then to meet with north korean leader kim jong-un. time and time again he made it clear it s his own judgment alone that matters. i m an outsider. used to be an insider to be honest with you, okay? i know the inside and i know the outside. and that s why i m the only one that can fix this mess, folks. nobody is going to be able to do the kind of things i can do. but let me tell you, the one that matters is me. i m the only one that matters because when it comes to it, that s what the policy is going to be. you ve seen that strongly. the new york times peter baker writes, whether it s middle east peace or trade agreements trump has repeatedly claimed he can achieve what has eluded every other occupant of the white hourse through the force of his personality. so far little to show it. could north korea be the exception? there s one crucial variable at play this time around. and we ll get to that next with the hardball roundtable. nough for everyday use and cleans better than regular toothpaste? try polident cleanser. it has a four in one cleaning system that kills ten times more odor causing bacteria than regular toothpaste, deep cleans where brushing may miss, helps remove tough stains, and maintains the original color of your dentures when used daily. for a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture, use polident every day. you ve got to get in i know what a bath is smile honey this thing is like. first kid ready here we go by their second kid, every parent is an expert and. .more likely to choose luvs, than first time parents. live, learn and get luvs the sanctions have been very, very strong. and very biting. and we don t want that to happen. so i really believe they are sincere. i hope they re sincere. we re going to soon find out. president trump was joking about his role in opening nuclear talks, you could say, the decision to september kim s offer was trump s alone. just a short time ago trump tweeted the deal with north korea is very much in the making and will be if completed a very good one for the world. time and place to be determined. let s bring in the roundtable. clarence page from the chicago tribune did, gibson from the rioters news service and gabe a political reporter for politico. where are we headed? not toward the apocalypse i hope. what do you think? this is something that trump really wants. he doesn t know very much how to get there, but it s going to take longer than he thinks though. he s already conceding that. and this is just an opening something kim jong-un wants. i can t help but think like a lot of people do that kim is just waiting to get into a room with trump and roll him. if little kim decides he s going to make an ass out of himself before the world, i don t see how that s a victory for him. if he pounds his shoe on the table like khrushchev, doesn t he need a resolution to look good? donald trump is learning in his time as president that negotiating as the chief executive is not the same as negotiating the price of windows whenever you re building a new hotel. it s a lot more complicated and comprehensive than that. you can t just have one meeting where you say, yeah, you re going to give me a good price? we ll let everyone else work out the details and we ll call it a day. that s what he s used to. there s a ton of variables that could make this look different or feel different. he s already seeing his own white house walk back some of the things he s said. but they were talked back themselves an hour later by the white house. already more complicated than that. the thing to watch here is not what s going to happen when the meeting happens, it s what the rhetoric out of the white house and some of our allies across the world including asia is over the next few weeks. there was a lot of consternation when it came out. chinese don t want peace in the peninsula there. forget the chinese for a second. even the members of the president s own administration don t necessarily like this. let s not forget he clashed with secretary of state tillerson over the north korea issue before. i don t care about the bureaucratic problems. are we going to end the nuclear threat from north korea and will this get us there. what s he willing to give up. he wants to travel the world and live like a normal world leader. with the draw of u.s. troops. he wants to be recognized. he wants to be guaranteed we won t invade him. what s trump willing to give up is the question. a man who railed against. that s giving it up. to recognize north korea is not going to be popular on the right. he has to find success and what success means and what s a fair trade. he controls a lot of that image and discussioning. > the reason that i bring up the bureaucratic infighting, there is real substance aligned with that. whenever two leaders meet especially in situations like this it tends to be after months and months of negotiations with their teams. very clearly ha hasn t it this time or not in the way it traditionally does. we have to watch what s happening behind the scenes and in public what some of our allies say. that will give us real hints what this will look like. if that doesn t happen, there s a chance they sit down in a room with no cameras and we have no idea what he comes out of it. obviously kim wants to be recognized on an international stage. that s not ideal for trump but we don t know what he wants out of this except for recognition he s sitting down with kim jong-un. don t they both want to avoid a war? trump wants a place in history. don t they both want to avoid nuclear conflict? i would hope so. there s interesting commentary how if she s talks fail, we go back to the default position which is already who your threatening possible strikes that or some type of combat. the danger of these talks coming apart is that it will make trump angrier and kim more unstable. the roundtable sticking with us. up next, they tell me something i don t know. you re watching hardball. no, please, please, oh! (shrieks in terror) (heavy breathing and snorting) no, no. the running of the bulldogs? surprising. what s not surprising? how much money aleia saved by switching to geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. jen, i ve got questions. boots or flip-flops? boot! great. smokey or natural eye? ugh, natural. good choice. how about calling or texting? definitely calling. puppies or kitties? sorry, cats. dry eyes or artificial tears? wait, that s a trick question. because they can both get in your way. that s why it is super-important to chat with your eye doctor if you re using artificial tears a lot and your eyes still feel dry. next question. guys, it s time for some eyelove! we re back with the hardball roundtable. clarence, tell me something i don t know. and watch for lewis fair rare can to be the litmus test in this election. a chicago man. i ve been covering him since the early 80s when he was disrupting jesse jackson s campaign and later became a litmus test around barack obama s campaign. now we re seeing on the right danny davis and various other folks. where we shook hands with louis farrakhan in the past. this is something we ll see. that s not going to defeat him. depends on the district. danny davis district won t make a difference. the swing districts you never know. jinger. the fight over tariffs is not over. american lobbyists are gambling on eu retaliation methods changing the president s minds. at the end of the day, these tariffs that the president has signed off on this week could end up being something he does a lot more talking than doing. what about peanut but thor? i was amazed. peanut butter, whiskey, that s a big one. they won t buy our peanut butter or our whiskey. it will disrupt the price in america. i want to bring everyone s attention to a senate race. the one to replace jeff flake in arizona. bernie sanders is going out to arizona this weekend. he ll do a rally with two progressive congressman out there. i asked him what he thinks about the democratic standard bearer out there. she s conservative. said the party is moving too far to the left. doesn t like all of his ideas about free college. he said i don t want to talk about this. i m not talking about the senate right now. there s clear tension there. that sounds like a smart move by hip. don t get in the wave a race you can t help. thank you. when we return, let me finish tonight with trump watch. you re watching hardball. liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad. liberty did what? yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. my dad says our insurance doesn t have that. don t worry - i know what a lug wrench is, dad. is this a lug wrench? 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can you take care of their and they re. not too sure i can. conference time. like take a look at there is i called you back here this needs doing this just to be finished asap. they all want something and now i ll take your family. stuff watch this ride i came back and got up too early i only had breakfast standing as usual. with as soon as one thinks down and all those waiting that s how it is all day long you need a break but not in the lunchroom you contradicts that. on that and this thing turn it off really off go off line get out of the office away from your colleagues go outside kind of call. yourself brea. sense your body be present. and be grounded for a moment. that s good you can do that anywhere. you know you say the company will collapse. no it won t but you will if you never stop. take a break the whole day has been like this i don t know why it s not my fault. no it s not his fault but who is to blame well some might say the clock the first mechanical clock in europe dates back to the middle ages to a monastery of all places and so when it became our master dictating the rhythm of our lives tick tock tick tock the cruel rule of the clock. centuries ago and in some parts of the world to this day farm hands sometimes have extended breaks. because people followed their natural clock. the working day was configured by the weather the seasons and our body rhythms. until the advent of the mechanical clock it put paid to not rober thems replacing them with a single relentless beat sixty seconds in one minute with a manmade clock now dictating time in europe christian monks are credited with inventing the first mechanical clock more than six hundred years ago so as not to miss pratt times. before that they d used candles when no one could burn down a falling metal ball the monks up. but this method of timekeeping sparked many a monastery fire. meanwhile merchants in milan florence and venice were quick to spot the benefits of mechanical timekeeping it meant optimized business management and higher profits the american inventor and later founding father benjamin franklin coined the term time is money in seven hundred forty eight o clock became the heart rate of the industrial revolution but it meant exact working hours and in banking enabled the concept of futures trading money became a time factor. but initially the time wasn t the same everywhere not even in villages a few kilometers apart train drivers and passengers had to adjust their pocket watches from station to station so functioning timetables were impossible at the same time the pace of life excel aerated as people increasingly face the race against the clock more tasks to do every hour more places to travel to and more to consume every day the internet has made everything available everywhere every second of the day or night. people may appear to have more time available today than ever before but many feel more rushed than ever before and. that s why more and more people now long to return to nature when it comes to work in line for them. to the gentle critique of their own internal clock. if only we could stop the clock get back into union with nature and in us else well some people are actually doing that or at least they re trying to a spot of us serious and my colleague takes you to a village far from the stressful wasteful wastes of the city. don t get me wrong but sometimes it can be every bit too overwhelming there s a village of three hours from where people are trying to live at one with nature as best they can it s good. i went to find out just how eco friendly this eco village is. the first thing you do after arriving is park your car outside the village. is a car free zone i m surprised to see there are any at all here but this is the countryside after all i m just trying to reach one of the villages. in fact they want pick up their landline and i can t contact them because they don t have a mobile phone. they don t use them here and as soon as i go into the room i m supposed to switch mine off. the eco village has a population of around one hundred fifty it was founded twenty years ago. i moved here from hanover these are my sort of you know the most was the traffic and all the advertising was plus the feeling of being hopelessly exposed to everything here were showing how it s possible to live sustainably injure. how does one have an enjoyable life of agony we live comfortably here but we consume far less energy than people elsewhere to save energy and the building s walls are insulated with bales of straw villages generate most of their own electricity which is also used to supply hot water and they re proud of their carbon dioxide emissions which are far below those in most parts of the world the capital c o two emissions in the millions now are just two point four tons per year although that s still too high if we are to prevent the earth warming up by more than two degrees celsius. and one of the craziest things about seeing the. compost toilet it s all of them you know combustible if. they don t use a walk up. one of the things that surprised me is that it doesn t stink because it s well integrated. i think we have. got the village isn t only energy efficient the residents also try to grow their own food. they don t use chemical pesticides and they mainly work for land the old fashioned way. and again fisher is a gardener here. so for those tiles as i say it s more ecological to work without machines so it s the logical option so that s why it s better for the soil it means less soil compaction less gasoline less dirt and smell texting until later and some of them for you in the spring and summer you feel connected to all the growth and development and they connected to life with my this only a matter of so on them and the blame i mean imagine thirty five to create is in the shade and i m always dying and i m just filming. i can t be assessing. and the villagers are certainly no. although i do get the feeling better a bit of machinery would make things more efficient. i can t see any farm animals here. but they kept strictly a. daily communal meal contains no meat because it s bad for the environment and because the vegans in the village insisted . around seventy percent of the vegetables eaten by the villagers are also grown by them and they re aiming to further increase that figure. it s really good and it s definitely one of them. in a while and instead of being thrown away the leftovers are recycled as compost the villagers who are opposed to excessive consumption are happy having a small range of foods to cover their basic needs they have a carters and bananas in the village store a luxury i m reassured that has nothing against city supermarkets as such. the range could be smaller as. is of course i really notice the abundance of products and then i have no idea what to buy or what s actually in each item. the item stock by the village store are all organically sourced so they are more expensive than their supermarket counterparts but around the corner is a place where people give things away when they no longer need them like clothes. most residents have jobs in the village itself as administrators carpenters or gardeners which means the money stays in zealand. but not everybody could afford to opt into this sustainable lifestyle not even people in germany joining the collective costs twelve thousand euros building and maintaining an eco village doesn t come cheap says ian linton isn t quite an eco topia it s a compromise solution for people flocking people to the car people use plastic packaging point is being aware of the fact that you can do more i just think that people here seem to be happy with will take their own. and figuring it out as they go as it were but he doesn t fit. in here she goes so what s the biggest challenge in that village eating vegan toilet flush or having to make do with. well that s a tough one how are you supposed to see. the way of policing your data out there for others to process and turn into hot cash but why office the e.u. has upped the pressure on online providers saying it s the use of us who own their data your data footprint is worth money time to check out how you can profit from it. for facebook and google it s easy users provide them with loads of information about themselves that companies use the data to trim ads to users probably interests but who owns that data in the european union under the new general data protection regulation the users remain owners of their own data so shouldn t they also benefit financially if social media and internet firms make money with it the american german start of data wall that has developed technology that lets internet users keep their data private and helps them to earn when the data is being used five to ten years down the road back onto this as like dark ages of data where we have no control and basically anybody could claim ownership of our data and we have no way to interfere right and i think that data in the future will be one of the most important assets for people to own and will be one of the most substantial revenue streams for data to be able to monetize a little. while the rules in the e.u. are now very tough in many countries d.d. hughes and ownership are still un break elated data wallet which is currently in the beta phase says it lets users determine themselves who can use their data. social media companies gather likes comments and status reports and use them to infer emotional states and attitudes photos that people upload are another important source of data for them. online retailers monitor shopping habits and infer preferences and lifestyles registered users of dating sites and online forums also review a lot perhaps more than they realize retailers discount cards tell the relevant parties how much money you spend. but all the data have to be processed and evaluated and that s what makes them valuable. and that s where did. brokers enter the picture. they purchase big data sets and analyze them to draw up user profiles. profiles describe individuals their fears and needs and perhaps their financial status that allows for targeted advertising tailored to our pocketbook they can describe us better than even our best friends can. cost in nola is a gator security expert and consultant he views the global market in data critically it s a huge business which benefits only a few. who has revenue of more than one hundred billion dollars a year from advertising the companies running those ads have to take in those hundred billion to pay for the ads so they add a certain amount to the products they sell so a single company isn t in hundreds or even thousands of dollars on each. it s how that. turns the tables on the online giant paid plans to have its clients manage their data via its website and earn a share if and when the data are sold. data while it is a small start up so facebook and google probably don t yet feel threatened still its agenda should alarm the big boys. we basically allow people to take all of the data create all over the internet over the hundreds of different platforms that they use put it into one profile and based upon expressive consent shared with the companies who didn t wear the shirt in the state or with so if you have your you know dataset you can sell it to one company but you can also sell it for fifty companies. it s an interesting project helping people to assert ownership of their online data well making some money in the process. now most of us have a bank account. of us will have to skype with the name admin on our balance sheet it is a dutch company that handles payments for global tech giants which is net flix facebook and e-bay from start up to industry unicorn that s kind of success story is celebrated at a competition sponsored by audience at a major european tech conference we met this year s winner to find out why size and growth. aster dam is mellow and picturesque it s also a high tech hub and hosts of the t.n. w. tech conference among the attendees are europe s fastest growing startups in scale ups many are here to impress potential investors they ve entered the tech five competition co-hosted by a young company that s already got through its initial make or break growth spurt and there is a certain level. of by hungriness europe who feels companies or people feel like you know procurement is out there i think that s a very. that s a very good attitude to be there i. founded in two thousand and six i.g.n. was floated in june its market capitalization is in the billions it offers a unified payment solution for companies operating and expanding on a global scale its clientele includes the likes of netflix and facebook as illustrated in this video companies face a deluge of different contracts because countries have very different rules that s where i didn t comes in. here companies sign one contract for their global financial transactions it s a very logical thing for all doing this to continue to invest in international expansion making sure that we support all the right payment methods because the world recently launched in kind of a for example and will continue to expand into more and more regions and the way we do that is we follow our customers needs more customers more credibility and if need be in more money from investors max larman is also familiar with that equation three years ago he founded a mattress company in frankfurt germany emma. you know me and my mattresses are designed to fit every body shape regardless of your size or sleeping position and order online and we deliver the mattress to your home in a small box and you have a one hundred day test period and the people here are tuned into the latest developments and opportunities they have began this. it s whether they re selling online services or cations or mattresses. and moving first thing we re currently consolidating opposition in some european markets and expanding into others such as denmark sweden and portugal. and emma won the tech five award for the fastest growing startup in europe there were the ever. another meteoric rise in the startup scene max lyman is twenty four and his company has already sold one hundred forty thousand mattresses in just three years. and that time its revenue has increased by fourteen thousand percent. figures that suggest a promising future but don t necessarily end the pressure to keep the company growing. so even for successful startups the pressure never lets up when at the end of the show let s just take a look at one what place fixture that literally exists to enjoy indeed pressure is resolute dextre it s mostly invisible but without it we d be in big trouble time to sing its praises. ode to the o.-ring consider the tasks assigned to be a ring in the home or gasket. between blocks of metal is cheap and often overlooked component performs an essential function to prevent leaks of fluid and gas. that is neither an easy nor a glamorous task. go through life being compressed stretched and even torn. this heather to understand hero helps drive most prized machines. if a cost stalls. tap leaks. it s so infuriating you couldn t blow a gasket. o.-ring is the answer but how does a deal with all the pressure for the most part resolutely and effectively you could even say the o.-ring holds the well together. now that s certainly a constructive form off pressure well that s it thanks for watching and join us again next week and don t forget to take time out from time to tell. the boss. hundred small fields in my cuts. where i come from rajoy remains an important means soft transmitting nuance and form ish and when i was young my country was drawing many conflicts the more prominent people most people would cause that i wanted to see if. it was my job to two in one off the lot just project say it s sold out to everyone in the town pool and listen to those against me. nothing has intrinsic to my long codea enjoying one thing more designed so long even if it s not i think not us i was it would be. my choice to be scottish because given the way told transmitted to troops. when it was in the question how much and i will. detail here. we are watching of all that took three and all in the water the food has stopped the forward in poor countries started reading education they are demanding good quality education for their children the cost what it wanted also to realize that if they have to have good quality programs and good quality consumers they need good quality skilled workforce i m very confident that in two thousand and fifty no decided on nor am i going to build a man illiterate. that is the fundamental human that does that given. the
and an abundance of. that encourage army abuse sorts of creatures. and with that now you re up to date. i m sorry kelly in berlin thank you so much for watching and wish you a great day. nico because in germany to learn german. to look beneath. why not learn with him online on the mobile free. t.w. scheme learning course because for me. personally i don t think much of porters in general. reporters for women or any other diversity quarters that might be introduced money or that have been introduced. to it in kind i m not a fan of quotas and the concept of quotas is ok but it s too short sighted i start with this and squids having said i believe in capability and i got less so. right now we don t have a lot of women who have ready to lead on and i d be reluctant to give preference to a woman because she s a woman for not hiring men who especially want to find. out if it s. done if i can just conjure up qualified female employees but if you go to and a few have got to have the right skills the right ideas about the job and they have to want to participate fully which is for them i can t hire a purse. who doesn t meet those criteria. well now from charleston. you ve got to have the will to succeed. you have to want to succeed to lead to step forward sometimes and that s what some women lack for mused so. shy away from certain conflicts and complications. in sometimes you just have to stand up and say i want to do this. and you know my name is funny latino. directed for the investment bank b.p.i. france i m responsible for direct investments in small to medium sized businesses and all the company measures. that i consult with the french mid-sized businesses to help them develop both domestically and internationally yes for them to be of dollars. and. they think you know i m almost there i ll see you in three minutes. but i was like of it my name is i m back i m responsible for diversity and inclusion of s.e.p. for our seventy eight thousand employees around the world. for us it s important for us to create a truly inclusive environment where everyone can be who they truly are ok. eliminativism a little. more learn a little. looking at the. way you know what i was having. my name is maria luisa contents i m french and spanish and only those that are head of the i ve been secretary general for the last day since two thousand and two saying. a few years ago when our company expanded to over ten thousand employees i also became head of the legal department might say. i m also responsible for corporate diversity and i m the chairwoman of the you know women s network people of all people they don t get formation of that network was absolutely necessary in our country and if we go my job is both complex and interesting. to be functional c.p.i. france finances ninety thousand country last year also shareholders in six hundred of them i look after four hundred fifty small to medium sized firms in which we are minority shareholders. i want to help them create value jobs and growth. manage one point three billion euro and that s the french people s money i say the top. delusion but these should be every day i deal with important legal cases and meet with members of the spanish governor. the ministry for equality and representatives of other women s networks equality takes time. this morning. legally. equality is more than organizing women s meetings and eliminating syria time. dedication to equality means contacting government officials and administrators. and also urging them to take action. in the main goal this year is to push through a true quota law in spain. spain and so far commitments to equality has been voluntary. if the companies don t face sanctions they won t meet the quota seen something that he says. longer would enable me to make it to the top without having to be a super woman like maria lisa but when. you have to ask us if not everyone wants to be a super well ok and the quota would give us the opportunity to work hard get more training and make it to the top. yeah. you know you re going to have. to see this up built up. i m a rather authoritarian person i like things to be done the way i want them to be done. but i also care about people that s my saving grace i like people and that makes things easier for all of us. both of you know that women are capable of changing their minds if they can admit that they are wrong and acknowledge their mistakes to me. the most important thing for us there i know is that our teams represent a population that s still not we sell cars to men and we sell cars to women that. if we don t understand the needs of our customers we won t make the right decisions . she was into this you know this city is a good investment. in france we re making progress in promoting women but there s a long way to go. get up around seven and spend some time with my kids and take them to school and you. know i start my work day around nine. on the way to the office i try to catch up on my work for. a change and i feel more productive in the morning so i sometimes get up at six or six thirty to move things along i mean to put in my thumb. i work a lot and i m highly motivated. but i don t think that s why i was made a senior manager at p.p.i. from. a leader is not someone who gets things done perfectly. it is someone who drives change who looks to the future. and who is capable of guiding new directions. miss you or. you know where my mission and vision s.a.p is make the world run better and improve people s lives. and that really is what our people bring to the table every day here to mention how. they want to improve things that s why i m so glad to be at s.e.p. right now and i think i ve found my place my sweetheart a place where i m happy to invest a lot of energy but. i think all this with us today that s a lie and a very. high and hi everyone nice to say you really think about whether you d be interested in a management role if you are pursue it actively based on what i ve seen in germany we have to do a bit more to promote women s personal initiative for. us it s a clear business advantage for us i mean economists so i look at things from that perspective. the main question is how can we make sure s.a.p.t. continues to be a successful company. as you found i think women are better integrating different perspectives and possibility and. they want to try new things and challenge the status quo. why have we always done it this way and why can t we try something else. if we bring a breath of fresh air to a company to bring in a b c one for. the. leadership qualities often referred to as feminine communicative good listener empathetic masculine leadership qualities often include a sense of just size of actors have. fact is that if a good manager and in german the word is neither masculine over they re going to have a manager form you need but this is a disadvantage because if i just pull this off. if there is a big difference between male and female managers it s how they deal with unpleasant situations like firing people and. morning in employee up man or putting pressure on underachievers the new money that s where i ve noticed a difference between male and female behavior and. behavior frustration that people don t really ask men what skills are necessary for us a man to get to the top i therefore find it very odd when i m asked well you know do women have the right skills every woman is different some women are more collaborative others tend to stride ahead each woman is different the fact that she s a woman is sort of a relevant. the hardest thing for a boss is to make decisions and to do that successfully you need different viewpoints and i have both male and female colleagues because everyone has a different point of view because. my management style is a bit too maternal sometimes. but that s not the case for all women in leadership positions as prospects especially gather to cliff a leader. often women are able to sense unspoken elements in people s behavior. they can gauge the stress level in a room or notice when something needs to be said out loud. i think that non-verbal communication is one of women s particular stray us off of the family. or. me if i don t think that they will ever be enough women in top posts there s a shortage everywhere in corporate boardrooms in politics in the arts in international organizations. such as. white women played a more decisive role in foreign policy they d be a lot fewer of us since we women and our children are the first to suffer in those conflicts was. definitely a shortage this is would function much better if women and men were to pool their knowledge and experience is what failed to make decisions together is that this you . see. a movie they are going to get a lot of things need to change in my life and in society i m trying to get our company to at least rethink a few things but it s like a form of practice of course it s extremely important to has women and management hosts and internet. study by sodexho north america actually showed that women can turn around loss making henchoz and their projects like by women are seven percent more efficient than there was led by men as more happy i mean we should support women in management and that he simply to make our businesses more profitable and to improve society out of course that s what i think i was addicted was but aren t i really sad but yes because of what i m heartless of the remote. areas where you live in a city that is about a spike up the spain is an anti quota country. no political party wants one neither left nor right. but they go all the way to assume that one day equality will come to them from germany or wherever. it may be two years from now maybe in one hundred or two hundred years but if there are some is an anti quota country that no political party and somebody wants to introduce question laws. i think that women need to put themselves first there s enough of putting everybody before us we can still take care of everyone but first we need to take care of ourselves if we start putting ourselves first the world will start putting ourselves first so we need to take that step i think it is very helpful sometimes to be a woman because there is still that whole thing about a testosterone competition and if you re a woman you re not as much of a threat to a man they would never assume you actually want their job even though you actually might. powerful well i wouldn t describe myself that way but i do have a lot of options and resources were carrying out my worst. so i supervise the stuff of eighty five that s quite a lot for a management company especially since all those people are highly trained. and. then the show has been forgotten in the over the past few years some businesses have been sending people want especially women to training courses where they learn how to negotiate like a man how to communicate like a man often how to dress a bit like a man comes off. and city says that s not what we want to diversity and getting more women into top the hopelessness in me also means getting women strengths into those companies understand i don t need women who can blend in perfectly i need the authenticity that can promote diversity and that s what we want the parties and here. on this is going out us to. do you know where we have to go. we ll have to go through security and. maybe have ten times as much testosterone as we have testosterone is a very powerful self promote because testosterone makes you think. that you are. your. mind. on the sea. this if he was that wesley. and if he had wished that it would say if current upgrades for career and personal. career. all your. own also. the wherry he wanted to balance in the way he wanted to see. i think women need a risk taking appetite women should be able to break all the confines which they put on themselves because they always treat them selves as the not so important owning member of the family they always give preference to husbands good deal and not enough preference to decode your. it s important to be self-confident and kind of right partner in terms of support a partner should support each other in their career development to. gether come up with ways to reconcile family and profession as if i m young i m not kapok the. most positive from the. woman s professional success depends a loss on whether she has a balanced private life. ask me to people i m lucky to have a partner who understands my fundamental need and who is happy to have a private life of the sick to. me because he devotes a lot of time to raising our children there were many privy to simply true because it s something that s your closer to his host psychiatrist you return account. crew to the white house for i think it s absolutely vital to discuss these things very early on in the relationship. and to clarify your expectations for your personal and professional life so that you ll be a good man. on to just for myself preliminary civil rights for for the year compared to my medal has been a pretty usual way. that we simply mess with university. that s often the case in france we both studied at the economist you re not a minister says he from where francis senior civil servants are trained. really do not even admit that i come from not particularly and he comes from tough. well we started him so we could later work in paris i noticed right away that he had a great sense of humor something i m pretty new. and cos it was great to find someone who didn t take everything that there s a lot universities so seriously compared with value because. there came a point where like i said my husband was american and we eventually split up i became a sole breadwinner so whenever i went into a big meeting or summit i think that would be at the back of my mind you know i couldn t rely on a safety net anywhere else i had to be a nurse in a brothel a money son. of a bottom of the head that i could have stayed home and taken care of the kids with help from germany s welfare so star net that was one hundred or i could say to myself ok i m going to soldier on or i ve studied business but i m going to get moving. on. my career would have developed more quickly if my first husband had been more like my second husband. he s not completing with me either in terms of the pay or intelligence. he has democratic values. so you know that equality for women most progress and. a better quality of life. and more democratic rights for everyone. i wanted to be deficient in my professional activities and my beliefs are very potent to me. i would never give them up. then i won t bow to anyone. but i have my own way of thinking and my own way of looking at things. i don t enjoy exchanging ideas younger to shine through. she radiates love and affection it s one of her special qualities or it s truly exceptional there are lots of intelligent women you know and she s one of them without question for do it but that s not what makes her truly special trying to totally know you ve been through a good guy. and what she has the ability to give love from the moment she gets to know someone the. quality is what truly defines maria luisa. is not a declaration of love yes yes of course. from an early age i was an advocate for social justice i found the contrast unbearable. asked people i either had everything or they had nothing. i was the first of five children in our family. my father didn t make a lot of money he was mostly involved in politics and was a union activist during the franco regime is that the mother my mother worked to feed us and make sure we got a good education. my father was either in jail or on strike. just. in my family it was the women who did everything this. it what it may i did they wanted me to talk about the house but the question is your family is over but i said no she didn t i m going to talk about you she good value. this is phone book it was it is true that women have to work hard but everyone works hard these days men and women alike office and there s no way around it schedules are too tight and standards are too high life but there s more to it than performance and i think it s very important to understand that where i have influence i also have responsibility. and i sometimes find it very challenging to handle that power in a truly her sponsible way is a fun. fun poking fun game and i think that does come more easily to men then to women or. men. like. thank you yes i think it s important to focus on the discussion about the situation of women in management positions and why we re making such slow progress they are. why don t more women apply for top positions research indicates that women apply for a position only if they meet one hundred twenty percent of the required qualification for. one that s once he puts and effort. and money but a man who was less qualified might still apply when he says to himself well i m just perfect for this job and i do my. sixty to eighty percent of the requirements so while apply to me we ve seen cases where women apply only if they can meet on all of the requirements on file if you catch one of the sites so right now we re reviewing all of our open job profiles and job description it s we want to find out whether the qualifications we ve listed are really necessary or did we just post a wish list. we ve gone back and reworked all of that material in a very self-critical way it doesn t. stop my. sleep. together you show me the quality control point. on the phone when do you find out after the customer has already used it. it s a political aspect and i m responsible for that. because that is why you were never there are you familiar with the women at the mill and what. you know they re active in the industrial departments and i represent them in the group and what have you heard of us. i work with and then you want to go to the she doesn t have email like it was his office at least that s how i think people who don t have internet access . he. doesn t have anyone to talk to the human resources director. said the women need to know about the network anyone can join but we organize a number of events and civil lots of women come to those events. at the beginning of the thing he says you know what. if. this is. that thing that is giving them the. one that is in the league. i lead a very simple life. i work at least twelve hours a day. my husband and i are equal partners in our relationship each takes care of the other. admittedly my husband takes care of me more than i take care of him. that s a question of personality not selfishness. i m a passionate person when i m doing what i like to do i don t feel tired. my mind is always working overtime. until my body tells me to stop. but. i. think if you cut. i don t think i feel there is. that. anything you. don t good nor. close. i believe that spain needs a closer look he said that that s what i m not being for that as a gesture that my work with my head is of a near theory says he a simple french spanish french and goes above and beyond the company is it any goal is to have a quota law for minister to the board in place in spain by the end of the year. we ve been inspired by the french law and closeness and its implementation but annoying all of us the closer law in france has been very successful yet the league a get we have you see. i think that quarter by law has a place if at all governments feel their progress is not is not being meet in an ideal world no one would need to legislate for that in an ideal world we would have a situation where there was a very large pool of talent to sit on boards male and female and the decisions would be simply based on merit a window in an ideal world i know for sure if the male board member once said i was often kept but because i was a woman so no i have no problem moving up because i m a woman all being female quotas are crucial the truth is when i was eighteen i would have considered them when i had left university at twenty three i still thought utterly ridiculous me and all my female peers will get there on our own abilities then i was thirty and i knew some of the women were dropping out yes but i still thought absurd idea i want to get there on my own merit and so did my friends. now i m fifty two and the world hasn t changed enough the race it s changing out is like well like the ice age quotas are incredibly important and without them we will get anywhere. this is just all from right now i m rethinking how i organize my appointment calendar. so normally my assistant makes little notes for me so i can choose among my options. i don t have time to do everything in joining sometimes i have to be in different places in france on the same day so she asks me to prioritize that trade for you easily and. we discuss the situation so that she can continue planning for . coming there also in fact. she just. like you most of our time exim who are you. to do sleep well have you had breakfast yet. there go ok lots of kisses. response because. when i began my career i was against quotas because i had questions about whether they were legitimacy. and. if you promoted for being a woman you can be rejected for exactly the same reasons you know. oh she s just here because. i prefer to succeed based on my abilities past so that i can prove that i m the best thinkers just when i mean. you. know. what i knew for certain until recently throughout france excluding paris the process of including more women in companies and their management boards was moving slowly. to the left in his or something it wasn t until the new law took effect that things started rolling. after quotas were established and the supervisor of hospital or campus if you could only. i don t think we need quarters when we have great qualities but often they don t try to get ahead. they wait for others to come to them. so i think the quotas have helped them to make progress because there are lots of women on supervisory board but not all management boards. and it s important to have a certain balance. but the actual percentage of women is an important what matters is the quality of each individual should get out of town selectively to district it sir. if you call the the from. when i was a child i wanted to be a teacher a french teacher master teacher p.e. teacher. met him it was obvious it changed all the time maybe. i wanted to do something for society and the state. i wanted to do something that would allow me to serve my country overseas i still do. and i didn t always. of course it still feels unusual to be the only woman on the board and a young woman at that its. own illicit fat people smile at you know a lot. of friendly and charming. but they don t really take you seriously. but. still things change over time. we can at least shake things up and bring a new perspective to the table and perhaps be a little more honest and transparent. that would. produce better discussions among the board members to me of the battles. i believe that meant one twin to take their proper place in the working world. planted class. fish and i don t know about this is a problem because one. thing is already downstairs think you can find two minutes ok well so long. as there are good reasons why my mom had to work. that s why all of this and it was no best interest to. i don t understand there was always someone there to take care of us. and. to help the children off the streets i did have a guilty conscience sometimes if i had to leave in the morning or where i saw that things were running late i did feel guilty if i cut off it s i d say it s friday afternoon parents afternoon at school i just met up and all the other mothers will be there became cookies cakes or there d be a school production and i d either miss it entirely or i d be the last one to show up. because it s. not. for this friend and i didn t really notice any of that. i never got the impression that you missed a lot. but you mentioned it a few times you will tell it was are you bored so you mr birthday want her eleventh. it was more than that you know you work every weekend all the time you re working on spring emails in my. email and you re always uncool. he says and he may have been it does make a difference. in. the first infuse even if you might know how hard she s worked in egypt so much for if you know when i ve got a lot to do at my job i often think of her and what she achieved in the same amount of time and stuff and that calms me down. and makes it easier for me to do my work no matter how much i ve got to do it. he s a great role model i m proud of you. if you found out what i might go. alls. one is a victim of but my goal is to play a part in economic growth and the creation of jobs in my country. of sex yeah most of you know i think that i m in a position where i have the resources available to do that was what i was asked to show on the wild to be more young for you and i m trying to use those resources to best achieve those goals they will be used in one hour i think it s as if. they are believe in yourself and it sounds bad but it s true you know i. know where you want to go how you going to get behave a vision for for for your life because not it s not going to be always that people are going to believe in you so you need to be your own constant coach and and fan and that becomes very important. no one can tell you what will happen. over the coming years your best antidote to an uncertain future is to gather a range of experiences that mean that whatever happens you re able to adapt you re able to thrive you re able to grow. you don t get out by standing still. the main tip i have for young girls is the networking tip it is spend twenty percent of your time networking to do that every single day delicious day go by whether where you re not making a connection with somebody going off to have lunch with somebody bumping into somebody at the coffee machine and if you spend all day working terribly hard at keeping your head down then all the boss sold the cube or whatever transport you use spend that time lining up coffees with people we all use our mobiles all the time don t waste your time being gracious your job because nobody is going to notice unless you tell them. the place you go i could become the c.e.o. of spain. because you have no problem being a manager and i like people that s a gift and you either have it or you don t you can get a ton of must as degrees but to be a manager you have to be able to give and to find out what people want. he says my competence is beyond question i have the academic credentials i m highly qualified and i love to work. why am i not already the c.e.o. of can also use you. thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank. you it was you are. you eat. you eat. you you. feel. heat. feel. your all maxed out fat i was 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