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Andrea Mitchell Reports

perhaps investigating some of them, the members of the oversight committee. so it's understandable that this is political action, but it has real life implications in the fbi's mission and their ability to really secure the nation. >> and ali, there's a mu tiny on the floor by the freedom caucus, angry about the debt ceiling deal and not allowed anything to go on the floor. the house is basically frozen. >> exactly. house is in a state of paralysis and has been since earlier this week. we thought coming into this week that republicans were going to be able to move forward with a series of bills that would protect and save gas stoves so a real messaging bill for the base. instead, when they tried to move on to that to do the procedural vote that would be required in order to move on to the actual vote on protecting an saving gas stoves there was a surprise revolt to leadership and 11 house freedom caucus members voted against the rule, thusly paralyzing the entire floor and it's why they're not in session

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and coming back monday when they hope to try again. >> ali and frank, thanks to both of you. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow us on-line on facebook and on twitter @mitchell reports. "chris jansing reports" starts after this short break. arts after this short break get a pri. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence. from the network america relies on. [♪♪] if you have diabetes, it's important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose. try boost glucose control®. it's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health.

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names and other people's names exposed through public sight, i can't promise any confidential source that we're going to preserve their identity moving forward. i think this is win-win, quite frankly. now they've got a look at the document. they don't physically have it to wave it around like a prop. they'll interpret it as they see politically fit for each of them. >> frank, how troubling is this ongoing push to undermine the fbi and justice department including mike pence saying we need equal treatment under the laws as it relates to donald trump? >> yeah. well ali referenced it. this isn't likely the last time we'll see this staredown between oversight committees and the fbi. it's attempt by a thousand cuts of the fbi. they seem intent on he eroding the fbi's ability to do it's job. it's fairly transparent to most americans the ire is up because the fbi is the institution investigating their guy, donald trump, with the special counsel,

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Velshi

more young people like you looking for in this election? >> i want to hear from my friends, they don't like the job salaries, et cetera. and my friends think that they are not going to do well in turkey. and they are looking forward to go to europe and so on. >> he has the only hope for our country. so we know that he is already here 20 years. he is a pro candidate. >> that's like a minute gentleman you just heard, from obviously he is a pro erdogan voter. he thinks that erdogan is the only man who can solve the problems that the other half of the country, those who support his opponents, they blame erdogan for causing all those problems. so yeah, a lot of division here, ali. >> and, matt, the count votes pretty fast here. so we should have a result by tonight? >> we are expected to have it really, any minute now. >> all, right matt, thanks as

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suffered losses because of their investments in the last year. didn't get to write that off. so working people to not get the privileges that companies get in this country? >> but companies are the ones that invest and create the jobs, ali, and let me say -- >> working people do the jobs. working people do the jobs and they pay taxes. >> yeah, so people that create, run companies, and create jobs, they should be rewarded for that, because that is where the people go to work. everything has to be fair. now when i was governor, i cut taxes for people at the top because i knew our income tax was too high. but i also provided tax relief at the bottom, there has to be a sort of equity between the two things. and so, what i would love to see us do tax reform. but we can't even control our spending because we can't get enough people sitting in a room to come up with a commission to decide what is the responsible way to go. >> so if you say that people create jobs -- >> like we're having an economics lesson here today. >> we are, if you say people

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received 50% of the votes, although erdogan was very close. joining me now from the turkish capital's matt bradley. and, that we are starting to see results coming, and what we know? >> yeah, that's right, ali. we are starting to see the results, they are trickling in for the result news agency, and what we are seeing is erdogan is quite a bit ahead, i think by over 10%. but that margin is expected to shrink as the evening goes on. as you mentioned, polls have just closed in the last hour or two. but the fact is is that, if the polls are to be believed, if the first round of this elections which happened two weeks ago are believed to be any indicator, then it looks as though erdogan will probably prevail and he probably will end up with another five-year term, book ending is 20 years of controlling this country. and i'm glad that you proceeded this segment with your segment about autocracy, because in many ways, erdogan is the lone star for autocrats throughout the world, with vladimir putin's and the world, these donald trump type figures. he is seen here as a strongman,

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Velshi

that is happening on your side of pennsylvania avenue from the white house is really important, because most republicans aren't acknowledging, and most of our top two are acknowledging that they are not giving their 218 votes, probably, from republicans. which means that some democrats are going to vote for this thing, and that seems to be depending on how hard president biden and king jeffries can sell this to their garments. >> exactly, that is the mission of begins now, ali. and that is really critical. because once this -- we do expect speaker mccarthy to speak to sometime this afternoon sometime before to preempt to hammer out some of these remaining issues and to really try to make thisy ndshakr the phone on this side. and once that is all done, i think it'll go to both parties who are skeptical and heading into the process, and we've only really seen that harden

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don't forget, for more on, this i am joined by michelle garza, a civil rights lawyer who is paxton's democratic opponent in last year's race for the texas attorney general. she is also president of the texas civil rights project. good to see, you again, thank you for being with us. i think we have to separate this. paxton has a very conservative views and very conservative interest, and you ran against him on the basis of that. but paxton has been under investigation since 2015. to suggest this process has been rushed is kind of amazing given who paxton is, and, yet he keeps getting reelected? but >> first of, all thank you for having me on the show, ali. i am the president of the texas civil rights project. we have been working tirelessly to protect voting rights in the state of texas to make sure that we have a just criminal system that we have a humane, immigration system and treat people at the border with respect and dignity.

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Velshi

the value of money is. guess what, that didn't happen. the inflation is high today for very specific reasons that have nothing to do with modern monetary theory. nothing whatsoever. right? why is inflation high in the uk? why is it high in canada? why isn't high another places, it is not modern monetary theory, you know that, sir. >> ali, let me just suggest this to you. larry summers, democrat former secretary of the treasury and a number of other democrats warrant that all of this spending by the federal government costly to inflation. we've inflation this country for basically two reasons. one, because we have been printing money to cover our debt. you have $20 chasing it to a few quotes. there is a second reason, and that is the problems related to supply chains because of covid. but there is no denying that, why do you think the fed is raising interest rates? why do you think they are trying to cut back? because they know that the flow of dollars, too many dollars chasing too few goods, creates inflation. so, look, i am just back to the

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fact that, the point i'm trying to make is, are there things that can be done to clean up the tax code, absolutely? are the things that can be done to clean up corporate welfare, i was in the middle of, it of course there are. but at the end of the day, we just don't want the answer to this problem to be to raise everybody's taxes and somehow that will help. >> it is not raising everybody's texas -- >> governor, we're not talking about raising everybody's taxes. >> some people's taxes. >> -- paying no taxes? is that fair to you? >> it depends why, ali, it would depend why that is. in other words, if they've suffered losses because of investments, guess, what they don't pay taxes, okay? if they make investments and they start appreciating their equipment, guess what, they get a tax break. you don't want to take that away. there, people who study the economy that safe, we should take away accelerated depreciation, or amortization. >> i just wanted to say, back to our example, of the working person who has a 401k who

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