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using for instance the pfizer database. the foreign intelligence surveillance apparatus. to spy on american citizens for this is fbi agent and whistleblower steve, listen. >> i think the fbi has sort of evolved what we expected to be which is federal law enforcement for it after 911 with the national security branch was grown exponentially fbi is now essentially evolved into a domestic intelligence agency with a law enforcement capability bread which is what i expressed in the hearing. jon: it is not supposed to be spying on american citizens. >> that is exactly true. what he says has a lot of force. i have represent fbi whistleblowers because of the lack of oversight, the lack of law and accountability, there have been numerous abuses of domestic surveillance by the bureau. whether that has happened in this case or not, that is open to an investigation. i'm sure congress will aggressively look into it.
>>nt it's totally , laura .y i mean, there's no other way around it.i it's softlagrey worded, as you stated. i agree with that. in fact, your opening monologuyoue is spot on . but we looked at a two was different types of treatmentsf for two different political campaigns, and they are radically different. lowed stophey sloweddo down and put the stops on investigations sbu into the clinton foundation, dee as noted. but they they denied donald dod trump's campaign eveniefi a defensive briefing, which is a very low leveng cl and almt no, there's almost no resources dedicated to doing stuff like that. >> somet to agents that go inar and just say, hey, these are h the concerns we have. thiss how is how you mightw yo be targeted. this is hocaw you can ben be awf it. and this is how you should t want be careful because you don't want a major political campaign to be targeted by a foreig n government. it's v and the stuff fact that they denied it, it's >>lling in every way. steve , i want i to play the thoughts of another former a fbi official, frank figel, joh as they watch this.uld >>be john durham should the exhibit a in the so-called weaponization of government
the fact is you're not going t to beat the establishment courtt . sorry to report you , but you have to beat them. the polls.th if not a, we should expect more of the same a government that acts more like an o occupying force that cavalieccre ste abuses of public trust whenever it senses strong opposition. >> now, here to react, kylreac seraphin, former fbi agent, a federal whistleblower and still friend, senior fellow at the center for renewingwhistb an america and author of true blue my journey from beat cop to suspendedf fbi whistleblower steve revealed improper practices and the fbi investigation related to jananuy six . kyle, let's start with you,t's stthough, in essence, this was the fbi working at the behest of a presidential campaign. does this report, even if the conclusions maybe wor as strongly worded as i would have like them, does it crystallize the problemsem you saw with the modern fbi? amu
the abuse of the fisa system. you there's an ongoing debate right now about seven 02 coverage of the of the fisa, of the foreign intelligence surveillance act. and that, to me,igence sure ac g problem. so they didn't correct the the problems at all. they just kinded the kick the cn down the road. >> now, steve , looking forwardw to twenty twenty four . how concerneard are you that some of these same forces areg i still operatinthg within the u.. government who can putfi their fingernger o on the scale one way or another, whether it's an investigation of anoth anotheerr candidate or somethins else that they mightom try to pull? i'm very concerned. ver i think you'd only have to look at is twenty, sixteen and 202026 . i think 2016as is this report pe is expose with sort of e to what we saw in an20 when it came to thee intelligence community and entrenched forces. behal they're mobilizing to , to work ag behalf of the joe biden campaign and work against ree duly electedecte president .
subcommittee because he wasd tun weaponized by bill barr and turned against the very institutions that he comes out. m is tasked with doingunnecess something that was not but only unnecessary to do, butstro tasked with doing whatever he could to destroyth the origins f the crossfire hurricane. >> the original case, steve .e e >> now, as usual, the lefter t will try to turn the tables on those who actually uncoverhe the corruption , even if, againt if it's not as strongly worded as it should have been. absolutely. and i think the fbi has nowen been exposed as no longer an objective force for good. s and here's a situation where they they lookedy internally ad decided that they were not any going to consider any evidencece to open a case because i bt was inconvenient forl their preferred political candidate. and instead they the targeted all the resources and all their focue resours on the indil