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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111024:20:17:00

is going to help a little bit, not a lot. and i don't appreciate the part about the reps and warranties that i've been reading that might be involved in this, where the chain of title sort of gets washed away when you refi your mortgage. but that said, every little bit helps, but maybe not enough. >> what do you think about this? >> remember, he had a few months where there was a democratic supermajority in the senate and a majority in the house. there's lots of things he didn't pass then. and then the elections came in. what was that? that was saying, we think obama care went too far. >> maybe they were -- we don't know, maybe they were saying -- >> but the point is, now he's decided to go around the legislative process. it's great timing. i have a friend who just wrote a book called "democracy denied" this has all about how obama is trying to go and say -- >> he's doing what he has -- >> -- from the white house. >> he's doing what he has the ability to do as the executive. >> and lots of presidents have used -- >> of course, sure. but obama was supposed to be the guy who was supposed toll

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111024:20:11:00

the least. roya, congratulations on the book. >> thank you. >> "assassins of the turquoise palace," fun title, too, assassins always get people to open the book, and then it's the book. all the best with this. matt, it's been too long, hope to talk to you again soon. coming up here on "the d.r. show," will the president's new housing plan keep you in your new house or your house or simply keep this president in the white house? plus, the end of wikileaks, whether the secret-spilling site could soon go dark. and worm, the best-selling author of "blackhawk down" joins us to reveal details of the v s first digital world war that you probably didn't even know already happened. [ male announcer ] tom's discovering that living healthy can be fun.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111024:20:44:00

response to conficker, the internet worm that in recent months has infected millions of computers around the world. this status quo is no longer acceptable. >> that, our own president, president barack obama, responding to conficker, a 2008 highly encrypted computer worm that our next guest calls the first skirmish of the new digital world war. strains of conficker have inflicted over 12 million personal and business computers thus far, and to date, the only ones able to contain the worm were not the cia or the fbi, but a group of high-tech volunteer geeks. i guess geeks, by definition of their success. his new book, "worm: the first digital world war," mark bowden, you just saw him there, author of "blackhawk down." explain to me in a way that i'm going to know what you're talking about what the threat is to me as an individual and to us

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111024:20:52:00

private information, which is as simple as making sure you are up to date with security downloads and whatnot. but the larger problem is not so much individual as it is societal. and i think one of the things i hope to accomplish with this book is just to raise public awareness of the need for addressing basic structural problems in the way we exchange data on the internet. it ought to be more of a political issue. it has become more of a priority, i know, during the obama administration. but until something really drastic happens, i doubt that it will be addressed at really the highest levels. >> yeah. well, if history's any indication, your assessment certainly has good odds. mark bowden, the book, "worm: the first digital world war." thanks for time today, mark. >> you're welcome, dylan. thank you. >> yeah. coming up on "hardball," enough already. rick perry trying to russell up support by trying to revive the

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111024:20:48:00

or whatever it might be, as this technology, the worm technology and the sort of warfare technology digitally develops, at the same time, we upload our dependency on the cloud, corporate back end, banking back end, content back end, family pictures, whatever it might be, how much of a risk are we creating by loading our lives on to this cloud? >> well, we're creating an enormous risk. and one of the points i try to make in the book, "worm," is that the internet, which is the infrastructure for all of these things that you've described, was the creation of a kind of utopian spirit in the late 1960s and early 1970s, it was all about freeing information and sharing data freely. until we hardened the network a little bit more, until we learned to protect information, it turns out there's a great deal of information that both individuals and government and

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