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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150417:05:04:00

jim cavanaugh au law enforcement analyst and retired atf agent in charge, and david harris, professor at the university of pittsburgh school of law. i want to begin by saying who else we invited tonight who declined once again. we invited the sheriff to explain what's going on in his department. we also invited the defense lawyers for mr. bates. they could not make it tonight 37 one of them has already appeared on the program. zeba, i want to get to your latest reporting about this training that he claimed to have received from maricopa county's -- let's see, response to active shooter training, he said. now, there is one additional element to in that you found in your report in speaking to maricopa county. they said that there was once a time when one of their trainers went to texas and gave the training -- gave some training in this once in texas and they would not have any record of who

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150417:02:04:00

in fact allen said that will training is only available to members of the maricopa county sheriff's office meaning bates would not have been eligible. we don't an loup out of state people to take the class she said. joining us now is ziba bran citier the enterprise editor at the tulsa world who contributed to the report. jim cavanaugh au law enforcement analyst and retired atf agent in charge, and david harris professor at the university of pittsburgh school of law. i want to begin by saying who else we invited tonight who declined once again. we invited the sheriff to explain what's going on in his department. we also invited the defense lawyers for mr. bates. they could not make it tonight 37 one of them has already appeared on the program. zeba, i want to get to your latest reporting about this training that he claimed to have received from maricopa county's -- let's see, response to active shooter training he

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150416:18:07:00

reserve program. this comes after a 73-year-old volunteer who says he accidentally shot an unarmed suspect and killed him, robert bates was charged on monday in the death of eric harris. he turned himself over on tuesday. meanwhile, the actuals "tulsa world" says supervisors at the sheriff's office were ordered to falsify the training records. it's referring directly to bate bates. bates' attorney told msnbc it is incredulous that these reports were made by the newspaper. we should note that story has not been independently confirmed by nbc news. joining me now is reporter for the "tulsa world." and let's start there, zeba with the statement from the tulsa sheriff's office that responds direct three the report saying "the media outlet that is putting that information out is using unconfirmed sources and also relying on anonymity. we don't respond to rumor." what's your reaction to that? >> my reaction is they're not

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