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to focus on in this debate, on this particular question, is the steady degradation of our security posture in the pacific rim. the australian navy engaged in exercises with the chinese and excluded us. a dramatic shift in the australian policy. they're pushing the envelope on issues from taiwan to trade to intellectual property. sit a profound threat. not just to the vitality of our economy and innovation and manufacturing businesses, but also to our safety and security to have widespread counterfeiting of everything from pharmaceuticals to aircraft parts to garments going on in china without our standing up and fighting against that in trade war -- >> we're out of time -- >> are you saying that china -- >> i'm sorry, we're going to close out this conversation and move on to student questions. first up, we have a question from a student who brings us the issue of don't ask, don't tell.

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