times." the times" is reporting president trump spoke to witnesses about matters they discussed with special counsel robert mueller. they reported "the special counsel in the russian investigation has learned of two conversations in recent months in which president trump asked key witnesses about matters they discussed with investigators," according to three people familiar with the encounters. the first vold don mcgahn and the second reince priebus. as the "times" reports, legal experts says trump's contact with those men most likely did not rise to the level of witness tampering but potentially a problem and shared them with mr. mueller. we're joined by "new york times" reporter mike it will schmidt who broke the story. this is odd in the sense that i do you as a nonlawyer that this looks like the wrong thing to do. you shouldn't be talking to people who have just talked to the prosecutor because it