father. our job is to take the fear and anger out of the situation that a 5-year-old kid or 7-year-old kid can't understand right now and so yeah, i mean, i sound a little -- look, everything wrong with america should fall on this woman who said something at a school district on the other hand, the idea that an apology for poor that kind of action is suitable, does not strike me as the right response by law enforcement. she should pay a fine. she should maybe have public service because once again, she's brought violence to the school district whether she intended to or not over an issue that we know across america is increasing the threats against public figures and school districts. so it's time we start saying, you know, there is no such thing as figurative violence. it's like it's literal at this stage. >> yeah. julia cayenne, thank you. a statute of theodore roosevelt coming down after