for it. make the case for it. tell new yorkers that you're going to make their lives better. you don't need to have a long discussion about robert moses and racism in new york in 1958. you just don't. it drowns out the message. i think the one person in the democratic party who has really been on message better than anybody is the president of the united states. the problem is that the people around him in his party keep drowning out his own message. the president just passed one of the most important infrastructure bills in america, recent american history and he just can't rise above a lot of the background noise. i agree we are not living in a world without fox news. >> to push back a little bit i would point out joe biden also turned out a huge number of black voters because he promised to take action on things like structural racism and structural issues the right don't want to hear about >> i disagree. i think joe biden turned out a lot of black voters because they knew he was the guy that was going to beat donald trump and