genomic surveillance in those cases to understand how the virus is changing, where it's going so we can make sure we stay in front of this virus. >> you have written a great blog on that. is that a government-led thing or academia? the idea that this is evolving, a guy like you sees opportunity in the fact that it's evolving, we're vaccinating people, we're seeing some break-throughs, this is a way to get yet smarter about this and create new solutions. >> that's right. we're not doing enough surveillance. the cdc has their hands full as they try to ramp up more testing and surveillance. the rocker fella foundation is launching a pandemic prevention institute and we're accelerating the ability to bring academic labs on board and other private sector labs on board to do more surveillance. we need to track these violences more carefully, even in non-hospitalized cases, cases that are relatively mild this virus is changing. we knew about this delta variant