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marriages lasted and worked. and other people remained heart broken. >> i mean, i can't recommend people watch highly enough. it is disturbing but revelatory. and something else that we will talk about, you and many in your family endorsed president biden. i'm curious how difficult it has been to support someone other than your big brother. what kinds of discussions have you had and are some in the family still supporting his candidacy? and for his part, he seems he respects the family's decision. >> yes, yes. for sure. i think that bobby's point is a good one that we grew up in a family where we were encouraged to debate and discuss and come to our own conclusions about various issues and what we support and what we don't. and i love bobby.