yes, of course. >> it is a little ridiculous when you think about it. ed, that so many days into this that some of these scientists and we'll be speaking with one of them in the next hour. professor ira lifer at santa barbara who is involved in this flow rate technical committee, only in recent days has he had access to stuff he really needed over the past several weeks. this is a little ridiculous, isn't it? >> it is. bp has acted like this is something going on their board room and they're talking financial statements. the bottom line is this is a environmental disaster we have never seen in this country. every smart person that can be available needs to be involved in this. and what's brought this to the front, the american public's attention is the media. and the idea that the media cannot have access is absurd. if we didn't watch it, you didn't watch it, you didn't make this thing happen. they'd still be way behind on the stuff they're doing. this has put the american public in jeopardy, and only the scrutiny of the media is going to make this change any behavior