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us. glen bulger used to work for me, does a lot of things with your old partner, stan greenburg. >> but, you know, another part about the tea party is i agree, but they're not bringing new people into the conversation. they're not bringing new people into the table. yet your party, the enthusiasm gap is a problem for us right now. but they're not broadening the republican party. >> i would disagree. they're bringing real outsiders in to some extent. they've also -- they're turning on republicans in their own party, too. they said they've turned the page on obama. they've turned the page on some incumbent republicans too. everybody is feeling the pain from the tea party. the question is how much is felt by the president. >> look at the primaries. where have we seen a huge growth in the primaries? when you look at the democratic primaries from the last time around, there was huge growth. my god, we were missing predictions because we were undercounting the number of people brought into the process. you're not seeing a growth in the primaries because of the tea

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