i also think that the real significance is not that al qaeda is not to be worried about as an enemy but it allows us to pivot to a different face of islam. now you can see the arab spring as the primary face of muslims demonstrating, seeking a better life, which is a far more positive image than that turbanned enemy. >> what did you think of obama's leadership? the chinese view these things carefully. you spend half your time in china. >> i think a lot of us reflected on that remarkable image from the situation room. i mean, for all of us who grew up setting foreign policy and obsessed by the nuances of everything that happens in these moments history is really made to have a photo like that and see the president sitting where he was sitting, to see the secretary of state either because she had an allergy or having a human react, this is a horrible thing to be watching unfolding in front of your eyes. i think it demonstrated a real decisiveness to decide what was