spent the day with rick santorum at an event and what he does very cleverly, this appeals to evangelicals as well as to people who vote on economic issues, he weaves his kind of values agenda with his economic agenda. that is that a strong family equals a strong country. so that's kind of a message that appeals to a very, very broad spectrum. >> there was a report, ralph, that a group of evangelical leaders were meeting in texas, or this weekend, to try to look at who they could rally around as the anti-romney. >> right. there have been a number of those meetings. there were a number of those meetings to, quote, stop mccain in 2008. the challenge anderson, gloria's already referenced. number one, the united states is not cuba. it's a free country. so you can't just go up to a candidate and say, sit down and