credentials that go back to the 2004 convention when he was the keynote speaker in iowa and new hampshire, two campaigns the years in between on the presidency. and to realize that this is the end of that particular part of the story is very moving to me and i'm sure to a lot of people here. >> it's also sort of a sad picture on the credential. i don't know if you can see this, but it's the obamas from behind kind of looking out from -- >> i don't want to oversell this because i do not anticipate a sad speech. i anticipate a speech that talks about the richness of our democracy and what we have to do to keep it vibrant in the future. these addresses historically getting back to george washington have been in part a review of where we've been but very much a focus on where we need to go and the advice the outgoing president has for the country. this is the opportunity he'll seize tonight. >> on the way here i was relistening to the podcast you