care if the government grinds to a halt, somebody who is like a john boehner finds it impossible to operate. you've got to have give and take and some shared assumptions about the need to keep the government running. the most striking part of what has happened and those forces that drove him out of office is that there's an unprecedently high number of people who do not care if the debt limit doesn't get raised, if the credit standing of the united states goes down the toilet, if the u budget doesn't get passed. >> i watched a speech this morning and because i have you here, i want to get your opinion about hillary clinton at wellesley. >> another person who hit her stride once she got away from politics. >> it is interesting, it says something, about the broken state of politics, that somebody who spent their life if public service, john boehner, hillary clinton, finds that there's no place for them or not the place that they wanted and they go out