u.s. person. that u.s. person might be rand paul. here's my question back, happy to debate him any day, number one, do you think we should intercept the russian ambassador? number two, if the russian ambassador talks to a u.s. official, should that be disseminated if that u.s. person's name is obscured? if the answer is no, my question is, what is intelligence do? he doesn't know what he's talking about. >> this whole issue, dana, erupted because the president himself on may 12th, he tweeted about the possibility of tapes and comey better be careful, otherwise, if there are tapes, he would lose in the process. this is the president who started all of this. >> totally. and it was the fact that the president, when he gets upset or when he wants to send a message doesn't have -- always have impulse control when it comes to his twitter feed. and this is a prime example of some pretty bad consequence s o that for him because the whole notion of challenging james