according to u.s. intelligence and the suffering of women and children. general, you make a very compelling case. nobody is going to argue that anyone should stand by and watch what clarissa ward has brilliantly reported for over a year that is an obvious and on going humanitarian crisis in that country. you could argue we've ignored it. but that doesn't mean you have the authority -- i keep coming back to that general. while it is emotionally compelling to say we don't want it, it's in our national security interest, that's not an easy leap to say that assad using chemical weapons on his own people is somehow a national security threat to the united states. that's why you have rules, you have votes, you have procedures. they've been ignored, and it does suggest we're at a tipping point. this sounds like war against syria, not a simple battle against a bad guy terrorist. >> i think you're right, chris. that's exactly right. we do not have a strategy for syria. i disagree with my friend tony