to mueller. there's a "bloomberg" story in the morning saying mueller's extending his scope. leaks to two of trump's papers he reads every orchestrated, coordinated in some way, the trump world wants to send the message to mueller. >> everything i know about robert mueller, i know a great deal about him and the people around him, they are not going to be intimidated by this. they are going to go full speed ahead, do what they think is right. if the president pardons people, he pardons people. that's not something -- >> if he pardons people, is that essentially the end of the investigation? then no one pays a consequence for it if there's any wro wrongdoing. >> you know, it's an interesting question about whether if lots of people or anyone under the ambit is pardoned, whether he would still file some sort of report on his findings, anyway. certainly none of this has ever come up before. there have never been mass pardons at the beginning of an investigation. president george herbert walker bush pardoned a number of iran-contra figures at the very