for example, i just relocated here. when i was living in saudi, i had two bank accounts, i rented an apartment, i changed jobs twice and i had never any kind of permission for that. but a saudi women sit next to me might have a different experience, but that's not the government or the leadership, that's about kind of cultural norms with a very kind of microcosm, family or immediate proximity. and i think we need to make this distinction, because even further with respect to the guardianship system, in may, there was his royal hinghness, king salman, issued a royal decree to review the guardianship system as a check and balance system to this issue, organic implementation versus, you know, the institutional policy itself. >> okay. thank you for interjecting. and i just, i just, i care for women and, you know, when we hear the woman who fled the country after being jailed to australia, you know, i guess i'm just left wondering, in terms of having hope for women in saudi, what do you open -- what's the next step?