meeting yesterday, the daca thing -- you know, put the book sort of on the second page to -- wasn't in the headlines. why would he even do that? why would they let him do that? >> well, i don't know if they can stop him -- his staff can stop him from doing that. the libel laws in this country work for 99.9% of people. the president is saying he wants to deal with the libel laws. i agree with michael and michael that there's not really a lot of policy behind this because it doesn't work for him. it's not a problem for the country. it's a problem for him because the president even after a year is still warming into or resisting the idea that as the president of the united states, the leader of the free world, head of state, head of government, he is -- in a democratic society, he's there to be criticized. he's not there to be genuflected to. he's there for the press to take shots at him. to the extent that any quotes in wolff's book don't hold up, those should be challenged by the white house communications