>> we have the number on the screen, what is the recommendation for you? >> absolutely, you can call the national suicide prevention lifeline, text the crisis text line. talk to your primary care doctor, your pastor. the key thing is to talk about it and ideally with people who are trust worthy and won't judge, and won't come up with quick fixes but will listen. many people in the population are having suicidal thoughts right now. we live with that reality as part of the human condition and there is no shame in that. it is what happens next, what we do to get through it. we are very resilient at the core. sometimes -- >> i've read studies, if somebody makes an attempt or is about that, if you can avert it in that moment, very well may not try it again. >> that's right. in fact, people who survive a serious suicide attempt, more