were really intense, how he found the courage to vote against the segregation package. i asked him, what are you thinking about? he said, i was really fighting for my friends. he had befriended a young man on the first day of law school, norman francis. norman was better looking, faster, and smart than everybody else. i asked my father, he said he taught me what it was like to walk in somebody else's shoes. he said, i wasn't just fighting for norman. i was fighting for my right to be with my friends. and we just kind of grew up in that ethos. there have been a number of examples throughout our life where white people have been angry at us. >> you experienced that as a kid. >> i did, when i was 13 years old, back then it was white people in the council chamber really trying to get after the city of new orleans because the city was becoming majority 1
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