we saw here is a judge who takes the cases as they come to him and tries to analyze the fact and the law in each particular case. so he is not rejudging the cases. i think he is going to take the case and decide, you know, the cases that come. i think it's very premature to predict that i think chief justice roberts is really the swing vote here on that issue. people have been speculating since kennedy and o'conner and souter were confirmed that they would be the next vote. that's all speculation. what we see is 12 years in the courts applying the law faithfully. i think that's what we continue to see from kavanaugh today. >> the only people who don't think roe v. wade is going to be overturned are people like carrie who have been fighting for years to get roe v. wade overturned. this is the great cause of the conservative movement. they got their justices. this is what they're going to deliver. i mean, all of the sudden -- >> they said that in the '80s. they said that about justice o'connor, they said that about justice kennedy and souter. they're the ones who wrote the