involved a number of people. it may have included the president and it may not have. he has to do the job that the statute and the law requires. that's what he was doing. the fact that somebody doesn't like it is not relevant. >> so, what we're seeing now is indications that rosenstein doesn't want to resign. if he wanted to, he would. the fact that he hampton seems to indicate that he hasn't. simple logic. there will be pressure. we don't know what will happen. i want your sense of what happens on thursday and whether or not rosenstein is willing to weather going in before congress, raising his hand and testifying about what he did and did not say with respect to that "new york times" story. what do you think happened and do you think he would do that? >> well, thursday is the day he's meeting with the president. and i expect that rod as the fine lawyer and experienced