when it comes to things like you call the brown menace. that was the biggest reason that he got elected. >> there is no question that he tapped into something. look, it is never the case in any political contest that one thing winds up being overwhelming, right? you can get a critical mass of something. you can get a tipping point. but it's always an equation. >> that was overwhelming. i'm just telling people do the research. look at the studies. it will show you that is the number one issue -- >> right. by why were they afraid? why were the identity politics in play for them? economic insecurity, the feeling the process doesn't look out for them. >> i'm glad you pointed that out because the right is always accusing the left of identity politics. >> mm-hmm. >> and there is no greater identity politics than what is going on now. >> yes. >> with the republican party and with the trump supporters. go on. sorry. >> we haven't seen this in a generation. we have not seen this in a generation. we have not seen somebody actively dividing the country along lines of traditional