up. keep in mind that people were applying for asylum want to have a regular status. it is very tigring and difficul not to have a regular status. you want to have your hearing and show you're eligible for asylum and you've covered family separation for a long time. we're going to see a different type of family separation potentially now. we're going to see u.s. citizen kids abandoned like in your lead-in. u.s. citizen kids remaining in america who have never been to their home country and their parents are going to be shipped away. not only that but just the terror of these kids living with, am i going to come home from school one day and my parents are not going to be there. that kind of stress on children is not healthy. >> i think this is an important point to make here. there's an analysis done by the migration policy institute. former president obama deported more undocumented immigrants than trump has so far. according to this analysis, george w. bush deported twice as