to ronald greene then subsequently did something to someone else because he was not held accountable at the time the incident took place. and that's really the big story. or another subplot of the story. the fact that when you do not ring in the bad apples, these are not isolated incidents. these things happen over and over and over again. and this is just one example of that. >> let's see what progress comes from today and the big rally happening with the family. ron haley, thank you for coming on. >> thank you, kate. talk to you soon. >> thank you very much. >> coming up for us, did ohio find the secret recipe to getting more people vaccinated? it seems like it's vacs million lottery may have done the trick. we're going to speak to one of the lucky winners next. you oughta customize your car insurance with liberty mutual, so you only pay for what you need. oh um, doug can we talk about something other than work, it's the weekend.