the people's ability with the debate front with the ability to get votes. the getting votes is the mother important votes? >>guest: people are fascinated by newt being a great debater and some thing he could really win a debate with obama, but the fact of the matter is we are going to need to appeal to not just conservatives but to people who, need to get back from obama ultimately obama is someone people want to like and we need to nominate someone with those same occasions. i have served in gingrich's congress in the 1990's and he was an idea man but he also was prone to being impulsive and that could be to his detriment in the next campaign season to follow next year. >>shepard: carl cameron is still with us. carl, the strategy during the debates, ronald reagan's 11th commandment is in jeopardy from time to time and i wonder if